₦airaland Forum

Just30:
They all have one vote

He thinks endorsements from celebrities means much. What do celebrities in general know about politics? Even at that, Tinubu also have his own share of endorsements.

They are also deluded that when they see people endorsing Tinubu they tell you those people are just there for his money.

When they see Tinubu's crowd, they tell you they were all paid.

But for Obi, all crowds and endorsements are organic.

The delusion is staggering.

ProblemChild1:
You see why you don't know anything about politics. They're all there for his money. Me here, I eat Tinubu money no be small. But I will still vote obi. Una no wise

That's your assumption. Money is not everything. These people I mentioned and many more are not just there for his money. You are wrong.

ProblemChild1:
Obasanjo endorsed Peter Obi, Babangida Endorsed peter obi, goodluck Jonathan Endorsed Peter Obi, most of Nigerian celebrities Endorsed Peter Obi, Pastors and imam Endorsed Peter Obi, The literate Nigerians Endorsed Peter Obi. Only mugus Endorsed druuuugnubu. Shame no dey una mumu face.

Crypto Patricia founder Ejiro endorsed Tinubu.

Andela cofounder Iyin endorsed Tinubu.

Amokachi, Okocha

Joke Silvia

Zack Orji

Dem too many

ProblemChild1:
You can never compare Tinubu with obi and atiku.

Imagine the arrogant hooligan you want to become the president of this country. The Nigerian National Anthem was going while Tinubu was putting his hand in his pocket. No respect for the country.

I said it. Everything for you guys is just based on populism, vibes and inshallah. These are the things that seem to matter to you more than character, Ideology, policies.

ProblemChild1:
Atiku is far better than Tinubu. We don't need another Buhari pro max here in Nigeria. You and I know Tinubu is not going to win this election. It's obi or Atiku. Just watch and see.

You still did not say what makes Atiku better to you but then not my problem.

ProblemChild1:
See another mumu. How do you know. You don't know what's happening in Nigeria. You guys are just talking nonsense. Read my lips, Tinubu is not smelling Aso rock. So you want Nigeria to elect another Buhari pro max. Where he will spending all his tenure in UK hospitals for his treatment. wasting all our tax money for his health. Baba it will never work. Apc are not going to rule this country again. See where the put Nigeria now. From top to bottom.

Both Atiku and Obi have also gone for medical check ups abroad, but hey what do I know?

ProblemChild1:
I prefer Atiku than Tinubu. Atiku is far far better than Tinubu. You guys are just wasting your Precious time. Tinubu is not smelling Aso rock

In what world do you even compare Atiku to Tinubu for fvck sake.
The problem I have with you guys is that you may think you know but I doubt you know as much as you do.
Why do you prefer Atiku to Tinubu. I'm really curious.

Mkenya2019:
https://businessday.ng/politics/article/the-economist-editorial-endorses-peter-obi/

I have listen to Peter Obi - and he understands what Nigeria need economically. Nigeria if they elect old Tinubu will be remain where it is - under capture of few Dangotes - who have impoverished millions - with failed import substitutions - over-valued Naira (freely float it) with crazy arbitrage windows for the rich - and stupid fuel subsidy benefitting a tiny car owning middle class. Then of course finally dealing with electricity crisis. Then invest billions in security. Nigeria should not be spending 2B dollars on army of 300,000 soldiers.

"Obi talks of supporting business, freer trade, and getting a grip on Nigeria’s mounting debts. He diagnoses the country’s failings more precisely than his rivals, though he is not much better at explaining how he would fix them. His promises to scrap the staggeringly wasteful petrol subsidy and rationalise the central bank’s many exchange rates are echoed by his opponents."

Precisely things I have been talking about here in Nairaland for years.
1) End import substitution - allow free trade - dont enrich few manufacturers. Remove stupid import ban list/dollar support for xyz.
2) Freely float Naira - let Naira slide if it must - but have only one window for everyone. There are now four windows including black market rate double the official rate. Dangotes buy at 400 - normal Nigeria at backstreet for 800.
3) Fix electricity - by raising electricity prices and by metering to stop electricity theft - so the disco and generators get money to keep turbines turning - and fix electricity grids.
4) Fix security - by investing in police and army - welfare, and arms
5) Start investing in education & healthcare - esp in the north - make it free and complusory to go school.

4 and 5 - the money will come from ending fuel subsidy - that is 12b dollars - to be invested in security & education. Let the tiny car owning middle class cry - the gov owes the poor more in support - than middle and upper class who can stomach higher petrol prices by reducing a beer a day.

Nigeria will then emerge from the Zoo it's dug itself.

You definitely have not listened to Tinubu enough or learnt about his ideology ( a mix of Awolowo and Abiola). You just judge Tinubu instantly only by what you know of Buhari's Government and his party and I don't blame you for that.

All these things you listed there are not new things. Most candidates including Tinubu have promised to fix them but you all are just focussed on Obi.

I love Buhari's Government but Tinubu though a socio capitalist is not as conservative as Buhari. I can bet that.

Just30:
But we all know that Peter Obi has no chance

Online nonsense does not translate to votes especially for a country like Nigeria.

Your best option at this point is Tinubu

Exactly. Whatever we do we must just ensure Atiku never gets there. I don't even care if Obi is president or whoever, I just don't want Atiku.
But then looking at Obi's chances e go be like film and miracle if Obi win because of the 25% requirement.

vaxx:
Obi really surprised me , at least with his high powerful online presence , I expect him to pull a difference. The number might not be enough to win the seat , but it will surely encourage him to try again.

2027 might be a lucky year

Constitutionally I don't see any pathway to victory for Obi.

In the North Central, Obi is only probably present in Benue and maybe Plateau.

In the North West, you may only probably hear more of Obi in Southern Kaduna.

In the North East, I believe he is probably almost completely absent.

There are 19 Northern states, in how many of those states can he get the required 25% votes? Nigeria is just too big and diverse.

Constitutionally, the president of Nigeria must get 25% in at least 24 states plus Abuja.

vaxx:
Ok you can called it tribal bigot . I careless , it is my choice .


Vote Tinubu a Yoruba by blood to power . Enough of Fulani rule . Atiku and kwankwaso are Fulani by ethnicity.

Obi is a good candidate for 2027. At least to ensure one Nigeria .

Tribalism does not put food on the table. If you want to talk of the three most popular candidates, he is the most competent.
Me normally, I'm not usually a fan of much talk but action.

rvp2018:
Nigerians - you have a chance to save your country by voting Peter Obi. Dont scre.w it.

What exactly do you even know about Obi or all the popular candidates? or it's just what you see on social media?

slowice:
Poor brain dead urchin

Why are you supporting Peter Obi?

slowice:
Do you want to see a working Nigeria in your life time or not? No good man will ever be president if the people haven't had enough bullshit and strongly desire change.

Sure but why are you so sure your good man is gooder than my good man?

slowice:
I strongly advise you buy two bottles. You shall be heart broken and will need double portion to rest.

But Obi is not known in the North and many hinterlands across the country.

Thinkam:
So na old notes he throw

Nigerians go suffer if Apc remains.

If you hate Igbo vote PDP, if you hate Yoruba vote PDP..

If you don't want Obi to win vote PDP, if you don't want Tinubu to win vote PDP

Country people, make we vote PDP

Atiku the Unifier

Better not to vote at all than to vote PDP. That Atiku SPV is an eye opener.

Tflex01:
With which money?

If Tinubu can still rent crowd in this current condition, that means he can conveniently buy votes on 25th.

It then means that we are just punishing ourselves for supporting Emefiele's stupidity.

Tinubu used garri this time.

limeta:
The truth is there is nothing to discuss about Tinubu
Or Atiku the old order must be laid to rest .
Since independence.nothing to show just shame home and abroad too tired of the nonsense.
The new Nigeria we the youth seek will benefit every body including you

If you are truly seeking a new Nigeria then what happened to Sowore? Same Peter Obi you guys are rooting for defended Atiku's old age in 2019 and was ready to defend through thick and thin against the corruption allegations laid on Atiku then. So what makes this movement a new order?

limeta:
Am only human

Well we supporting Tinubu, we are only humans too. We don't hate the country, we only believe in the ability of Tinubu. If you think we are wrong, then we can have a decent polite debate not necessarily to convince each other but possibly to help undecided voters if there are any.

limeta:
You dont expect every body to be good and okay
The beauty of life .








Vote wisely vote Obidiently for Labour party .

What if they also look at you as the one who isn't good and okay?

MrOON:
Supporting Tinubu should be a punishable offence with hard labour under the law

I support Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu. Give me Tinubu or give me Sowore.

Yaribanzaonic:
I no like Buhari...but why make thiefnubuu look like this na??

How is this about Tinubu? Is Tinubu the only politician that buys votes? Even then, is Tinubu the one queuing in front of ATM's everyday?

loosecanon50:
All of a sudden, Emefiele follows Buhari everywhere he goes. I’m liking this new Buhari

He knows his run was hell on earth so he wants to leave office on a good note by witch-hunting all those thieves who stockpiled naira in their houses. Ride on Buhari

So this is a good policy by Buhari in your books ? You don't care that the common people are starved of cash to get just basic things?

PROVERBZ:
I'm going to take a break from defending Nigeria for a while.
I don't understand what's going on. In my city in Jos , plateau state,
Muslims keep on taking the old notes while business owned by Christians are rejecting them.
I tried to buy indomie and egg today in my area but the money was rejected and the store owner advised me to take the money to a street close to us where there were some Muslims and whey would take it.

And I'm preparing to walk 20mintues to go buy it and come back from the Muslims.

My brother it's not about defending Nigeria. Where you see something you think is true, say it and defend it. It's your conviction (unless presented with superior facts or logic). Where you believe something is wrong, also say it.

I have always been a Buharist as everyone here who follow my post can also tell, and I even like this CBN policy but the fact that Emiefele and by extension Buhari (who is behind him) have failed to make quick decisions on how to tweak this policy to prevent it from affecting the poor, leaves less to be desired.

Just30:
Ghana debt service to revenue is 40%.. wages and compensation takes another 40% of Ghana revenue.

So Ghana is highly in the limit of servicing it debt.

Kenya is doing 80% of debt servicing to revenue ... Wages and compensation takes another 60% of Kenya revenue...

So you have an even bigger problem than you know


I hope you get to learn the difference between debt to revenue and debt to GDP 🤣😂

If you're expecting a cabinet member to badmouth his govt, then you don't understand the politics in your country

Not to spoil anything in your nice convo with the Kenyan, but this is a quote from a recent article by Reuters.

"While 70% to 100% of the government revenue currently goes toward servicing the debt, the country's inflation has shot up to as much as 50% in November".

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/ghana-announces-external-debt-payment-suspension-slipping-into-default-2022-12-19/

PointZerom:
Thifnubu didn't create RRS.
RRS was created by Buba Marwa but it was called OPERATION SWEEP. Thifnubu only changed its name from operation flush to RRS and claimed to hv established it.

TINUBU IS A THIEF.

Nah Operation Sweep was not that effective as at 1999, and Tinubu had to retrain new security men and also reform their funding structure, then called it RRS.

vaxx:
No , I am talking about mobile money. It is not only limited to mobile service as it transferable on any financial support. That is to say from from mobile wallet to your bank wallet or from your bank account to mobile wallet . Whatever ways . Any financial means is acceptable and possible. That is what we called financial inclusion . We are streamlining the used of money digitally even to the common man who only access to electronic is nokia 3310.

Now you are getting me confused. MTN MoMo/Mobile money, kini big deal?🙄

vaxx:
Digital financial inclusion is awesome but in a society that has almost 90 percent of her citizens as literate not Nigerian where majority trade informally and still prefer the old method of doing business , that is to say( physical cash swapping goods and services . That Fulani cow men don't care about your bank account , malla seeling roasted suya or sugar cane care less about your fucking transfer , the igbo man selling okirika ( old cloth) also careless about your digital money,nor those the Yoruba driver from ibadan to lages is interested in anything electronic cash. What he wants his money , his physical cash.

Nigeria should introduce it stage by stage , making it more attractive rather than making it completely compulsory. It is a serious problem in Nigeria . Many nigerians ain't informed. Go to the north you will be suprised . Some don't even know money can be taken thru machines .in Ghana , Your sim card automatically make you an holder of electronic account. So you received money on the same account you used to receive calls . The account is not subjected to internet as it can be carried out on simple SMS.

You are talking about MTN momo. MTN momo is already in Nigeria, not just MTN but Airtel and Glo are looking to expand their services using their wallets as well.
There are also lots of fintech in Nigeria working hard to make the best of this already coupled with the Enaira.

Obaaderemi2:
I just hope the whole exercise doesn't cut down Nigeria's GDP growth this year.

On the flip side, if we react to this appropriately, it would help us reap better from the already existing GDP and implement credit system quickly for low middle class and the poor in the future. It would also help widen the tax net faster than we ever imagined.
Government would also credit farmers in the future without middlemen.

Obaaderemi2:
The introduction of the policy is more political than economical. If not I don't see the reason why the new and old notes could not exist side by side until the cbn finally mop up the old notes from circulation. Many businesses and traders are still not taking transfers and these are sellers of products and services people need, so the burden is on people to go and sleep at the ATMs to get cash. There's this attachment to cash out that would take time to eliminate or reduce if you want to avoid the kind of chaos you have concerning cash issues now. It's not as if the authorities don't know this but like I said the move is a calculated political move. The stupid man who calls himself a president has done this before in the 80s. In his mind he thinks he is fighting corruption.

Going cashless is not something you rush or force. It's an organic growth thing. People are already going cashless. I stand to be corrected, volume of online transfers in Nigeria is one of the highest in Africa.

Volume of online transfers is of course the highest in Africa, you are right on that.
This political angle to it is also a worthy point and what makes everything a bit more complex to be honest.
But if this is majorly to prevent vote buying as many think, then it has failed.
I get the angle you and many others are coming from in terms of the political underpinnings to it, I just focus mainly on the economic aspects to it for now.

vaxx:
A very poor student of economics I must say. Very wack president.

I wish Nigeria best of luck

There is nothing poor/terrible about implementing a cashlite policy . The naira redesign is not a bad policy, it just wasn't given enough preparation.
The CBN should have allowed Enaira and telcos get more rooted in rural areas before implementing the policy. Also a daily withdrawal of 50,000 naira notes would have been okay. Also, left to me I would redesign only 500 and 1000 naira notes leaving the 200 naira available.
If they can work around these cracked edges, I don't see how this is poor in economics.
It would be poor only if they don't adjust the policy but we all expect them to do so.

theenchanter:
I can't remember the last time I set my foot in a bank, surely not in this year.

Enaira is even available. The CBN should spend more resources into mass advertisement of Enaira and telcos payment in all 774 Local Government Areas within the next few months.