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davide470: Since u have nt gotten a regret mail, i will take it as a good sign..

Baker hughes will not send you a regret mail even when hires have resumed,they are horribly unprofessional in recruitment.

plaetton: I have asked you before, what is your obsession with my sinning?.
The only sin that I admit to is the love of XXXsy(which I am not even sure is a sin).

Do you not love xxxsy as well?. Pls answer me.

I have no apologies to your god for that.

I think this verse address josh best, Then the Lord said to him, "You Pharisees are so careful to clean the outside of the cup and the dish, but inside you are filthy--full of greed and wickedness luke 11 :39

Cultism is a tool that our government uses for their own selfish interest!!!

Check River State, check Enugu state under Chimaroke.

If the govt wanted cultism to end in Naija e for don end

plaetton: ^^^
I hope Joshthefirst is reading it and understanding it instead of clinging to his meaningless mumbo jumbo babbles.

I always find it very interesting how simple truths are sidestepped and swapped with meaningless mumbo jumbos.

Chibuebem/ joshthefirst is just a super troll,just ignore him

Lol...confessing is not only insulting to your partner, it is the second act of selfishness,cheating being the first.

Most people confess because they want to take off a heavy load off their chest!!!

You cheat on someone and you dump your emotional gabage on them, how callous can you be really?!!!

ehixking: Done already brother
Don't follow all these distractors,u also must have seen before posting this that it has,Its been modified early enough he's just tryna Capitalise on a simple error like he's above one!

I am interested

pachuxy: My application status is still showing "Under review".
That's three months plus now since I applied.

the one I applied last year still shows under review....just walk away man

lincolnj88: Jesus perfected christianity and he was meek and perfect....he was never a warlord or child rapist or teaches to kill disbelievers or cut off d hands of thieves or stone d adulteress....even his dying words were fada forgive dem....but your warlord last words was kill all disbelievers........

Most of your bible reference was false....and lets 4get perception and know which religion is wicked d most...
In dis century which
1. Religion people murder unbelievers in name of allah
2. religion people marry child at.d.age of 1 to 15
3. Religion impose d death penalty on apostates
4. religion has d most no of terrorists
5. Which religion denies girl child education
6. Which religion meaning has submission before peace
7. Which religion denies forgives to sin and declares amputation of hand and stoning to death (sharia)
8. Which religion declares total war on unbelievers and called it holy war.'..
9. Which religion supports wife beating
10. Which religion allow d marrying of 4 wives

Religious mob mentality,who told you Alfa is a muslim

Joshthefirst: my zeal is born of knowledge of this God who is mighty to save. You cannot say there is no evidence of God sir. Surely you cannot say that.

If you really served God, then you would know him, and we won't be having a preaching discussion, we'd be having fellowship. Knowing God is a beautiful thing sir. Knowing his love. You need to be saved sir. From sin.

I bet if I told you what I did as a christian,you'll tell me I didn't serve him genuinely or another weird thing.

You can't hold a meaningful conversation without thumping the bible, when Annony and Enigma were more active in this section I loved their conversations.

Joshthefirst: and how can you say you did not know God and you served him? You only serve people you know. Know God sir.

Why do keep assuming you can tell other people their reality? Is it a form of superiority complex?

Oya just tell God to appear in my dreams today,if he does I'll sure share the testimony!!!! I didn't say give me a job ohh before you tell me He is not my puppet.

If he so loves me,let Him appear in my dreams...

Dalu

Joshthefirst: then sir, you did not know God. God carers for his children. Oh man. I wish I could speak with you in person. We would talk about this God I know. If you truly knew God, you would be saved from sin, and you would know that he has a plan for your life. And you would know that he yearns to bless us. Know God sir. Be free from sin. Dance in his light and life. Walk in reality

I don't know this God because there is no evidence for him,not in my life or the world!!!

I cannot walk with a God that will want to see me surfer. Lol

Anyway I like your zeal but as for me,no amount of talking will convince

Besides those killings in the old testament,really really bugs me, I can't wrap my mind around it and there is no justification I've heard for them that sounds plausible.

Besides there might be a God but the God of the bible? Who I once served is a lie perpetuated by Jews to grab neighbouring lands and all

Mr Troll: There's something off with this narrative...

You didn't specify what made Seuns business to fail. I don't think any belief or lack thereof will make or mar any business except in cases where it is the religious connections that help or hinder(as the case may be) progress, as is the case with Nigeria.

Be that as it may, I think the strategy for now should be to get more people to question their beliefs, especially the youths. We need to gather more numbers so that in the next, say 20 years we will have enough sceptics and irreligious people that will be able to influence politics and governance; make nigeria a truly secular state in terms of its laws and operation. There is no hope for our current crop of leaders so our priority should be for the youths and younger generation...

The priority now should be education, proper all round education. The next generation should have the ability to think properly and make rational decisions irrespective of their (un)belief...

It will be a long walk, probably out living us all but wherever we are, we should at least make effort to dispel the notion that atheists are evil people who can do no good. As for me, my specific discipline and skill set have made me somewhat indispensable in the Nigerian public health sector irrespective of my unbelief. I've had 2 immediate bosses who know I'm irreligious and it had had no negative impact on our work relationship although I'm careful around co-workers and patients...

Be professional, have integrity and try not to compromise on your values and when people eventually find out that you don't go to church or mosque, it will come as a shock and your respect will double...

A belief or lack of it thereof will not change Nigeria.

infact removing religion will be like childsplay compared to serious issues like the quota-system and tribalism in Nigeria

Joshthefirst: I'm sorry sir, but I really wish you guys could know God. Then you would know what love truly is. Blessed be God. God is love.

Oh! You don't know what's going on in my heart as I preach to you guys everyday despite the insults and the curses and the anger. You don't know what happens when I preach to a thug. You don't know what happens when you are in a true christian home or community. There you will see love. There you will experience love. God is love. In nature. The love of God is in my heart. The love of God compels me to keep away from sin. The love of God and compassion only God gives moves me to pray for the sick and to give to the poor. Do not speak of love sir.

You preaching prowess is not half mine!!!

Since I removed God in my life,its been easier accepting the realities of the job sector in Naija which I have faced for one year now. I don die? No

I stop wasting praying,or hurting when I get a No afetr an interview or test, I just learn from my error and push on.

God could not do that for me,infact I was more depressed as a christian

Michael Sokoto: General Electric ko, Local Lantern ni

Hahahahaha any nigerian trained recent graduate engineer wey dey wait for GE is on a loooooooooooooong thing,count the O's each represent one year!!!! Go figure

king100: That is the problem of Nigerian graduates, always looking for one unproductive office to seat down and start commanding.How many Nigerian graduates can do house wiring.Man! education is more than papers you obtained as certificates.

This is hilarious,is EEE about wiring?!!! I was wiring before I finished SS3

Have you ever heard of control systems,robotics and automation processes in industries like Bobo foods okay now that's engineering.

Have you ever heard of heat engines,applied even in cars,furnace, turbines eg carnot cycle that's engineering.

Have you ever head of load distribution and beam balancing? That is engineering

What of digital electronic, bolean operations used in your fones, what of logic gates!!! That is engineering

5years no be childs play...an electrician,mechanic or a phone repairer is not cannot and will never be an engineer.

This na why some company get mind they pay my former room mate 20k per month

Joshthefirst: you do not know love because you do not know love. God is love. I tell you I love you guys and I have your best interests at heart. I never insult you guys, I always preach to you from my heart. But you are selfish, godless and insultive. You said yourself that you enjoyed sin. You cannot love and enjoy sin. Do not speak of love. Human love is selfish and arrogant and easily provoked. But I have love. I have God.
Love is patient and kind and is not arrogant. Love does not insist on its own way. Love does not envy, does not keep record of wrongs. You do not know about love.
You speak from the mundane point of view. You cannot speak of things beyond what you can see or touch. I speak with the power of God. You do not know love sir. Your life bears witness.

Here comes the chief Pharisee my Chibuebem himself. Jisie Ike

plaetton: Religious folks often profess unconditional love for god, and also, as expected, confess great hatred for Satan.

If nothing else, this professed love for god is the best proof of the hypocrisy, shallowness and self-serving nature of religious faith.

Unless the word love has a different meaning in theology, it is not possible to love an invisible being whose presence we only imagine when it suits us.

Take Satan for example, no one has seen or interacted with him on record, yet every Christian claims to hate Satan purely based on unsubstantiated hearsay. In other words, Christians claim to hate Satan because they are expected to. Satan is the imaginary fall guy for the many failings or contradictions of an omni omni god.

Same hypocrisy applies for the so-called love we profess for god.
We love the idea of a god, our personal body guard and provider. We say we love god because of our selfish expectations of him.
Selfish expectations and our fears and anxieties. These are the basis of our faiths.

It is utterly illogical and silly to profess undying love for an invisible skydaddy, while neglecting to love and show real love to our neighbors.

"Love thy neighbor, and do unto others as you have them do unto you"
Bingo!
Someone actually did try to point the way of true love.

You cannot love god if you do not have real unconditional love for your fellow man, your fellow living creatures, the earth and everything in it which god supposedly created.

If you hate Hausas, Igbos, Yorubas,etc, then you cannot love god.

If you hate any race of humans, then you cannot love god.

If you hate snakes, cockroaches, spiders or any living creature, then you cannot love god.

If hate our mother Earth, if you consider her unclean, if you anxiously await her destruction because some wacko has told that it will come to pass, then surely, you cannot love god.

Every one professes unflinching love for god because it seems a lot easier than making even the smallest attempt to love our fellow humans and neighbors.
Loving god is easy. All you have to is repeat it to yourself a few times, and viola! You love god.

Loving our neighbors, on the other hand, is difficult and challenging, and entails great sacrifices.
In loving our neighbor, we have to overcome so much of our prejudices, insecurities, petty jealousies, etc. And of course, unlike god, we don't expect our petty selfish desires to be met by our neighbors.

So, the next time someone says" I love god", you know you are looking at a liar, a hypocrite and a sycophant.

You are on the burderline where Saul was before He was turned to Paul,very soon very soon you would be a servant of Yaweh.

Anyway this piece you wrote is awesome...Love your neighbour as you love yourself

nwuyag: Look mr man...
I said "I don't know you". I met you for the 1st time on this thread.
I am not interested in having any argument with you. I don't care about whatever you said even if you insulted me or you want to insult me. I don't even know what logicboy has got to do with me. you came to this thread and started attacking me impolitely without contributing at all.
You sound like a kid, so Is it because you see people jump into threads and start insults, you think its cool? Grow up! and try to respect people you don't know.

Ehhhmmm correction you haven't met me

Also I don't recall insulting you,but I see you have itchy fingers.....let allow you have fun with your keyboard now

Satanist of the year-Alfa,

Freelance Solicitor of the year- Striktly(my oga @ d top)

Most undulating belief of the century- Uyi Iredia

Apocalyptic Prophet of the millenium- Obadiah

Best atheist poster- well LB deserves it year as a compensation for last year.

Best ex-mod of the year- Mmw/Jesoul

Most abusive poster- Ooman (my nigger)

Best Troll of the year- Ishilove (cos of the atheist thread) that was the best trolling ever,she even ticked off LB the former best troll
*runs away from thread with a helmet on head*

philfearon: And stop erring saying they were massacred!! They went to a war thinking their gods can save them,but their gods met a Mightier God,and shut still,and the Mightier Gods people Defeated them in a war..How is that Massacre?

My greatest struggle in keep my fate in God,is not really my situation,

But the alleged massacre and killings in the bible,do say those were no massacres will be plain dishonesty.

Why allow them to be born in the first place,because God knew he'll kill them anyway before they were born.

He also knew his killing them will someday drive me to atheism,if he knew all these things why do it anyway?

Unless He also predestined me to rot in hell.
Now how am I supposed to keep loving God?

Please don't dismiss these things.

Mr.T Anonymous:
Who said I didn't misplease myself to please him
It seems like this christianity philosophy has sunk deep into your skull?
For a god to prove he is alive,he has to reaffirm hope in followers-but you christians still believe if you have an obstacle,pray and if he doesn't answer,you conclude god's will is the best.
What is god's will
Do you wanna tell me that Oyedepo buying 4 private jets is god's will?
Or Adeboye climbing the pulpit every sunday shouting Halleluyah,whereas paying huge money on luxuries of a jet,where countless of unemployed youth are in his church?
Is that what you call the will of god?

WHAT A gOD!!!

In the end atheist or not, lashing out in this manner in the face of adversity will lead you no where. There is no utopia in being religious or not, but always believing in oneself,communual leaving with family and friends is necessary to see one through hard times.

Lastly tough times don't last,tough people do.

There is a time and season for everything,atheist or not if you keep working,and focus your energy on carving out a better life,surely you'll make it.

Logicboy03: [size=18pt]Sermon Topic- Intelligent People Win [/size]

Ladies and gentlemen; heathens and infidels, welcome to another sunday atheist sermon. We are sorry for the omission last Sunday!


before we start lets have a prayer;

Prayer to Humanity-
I wish for a better world
where we are less divided
and more united
more knowledge and less faith
more practical solutions and less prayer
a world where science is learnt
and not hated or feared




I want to tell a story which ends with a question so that I can make a deep point that is central to this sermon;

There are two brothers; Seun and Tope. Seun and Tope had good upbringing with strong morals. They grew up together but Seun went abroad to get a Phd in management while Tope only managed to get a diploma from polytechnic. When Seun came back to Nigeria, he could get a job easily and the same was for Tope who was also unemployed. Tope, being very religious started going to church and got his job as a christian motivational speaker from his church (he was a freelance sunday school teach and his teaching talent was discovered). Seun is not religious and is a skeptic- he didnt pray for a job but hustled for one on his own- he also became a motivational speaker for a management consultancy firm. Seun and Tope both spoke about business ethics and keeping integrity. Also, the both spoke on charity; Seun used a secular method of talking about corporate social responsibility while Tope used his christian ethics to talk about helping the poor.

Times were good for both brothers until Seun's company went broke. Seun didnt have job and couldnt even afford his rent. Seun had to move to a one room shack in a ghetto. Seun's fiance left him. Tope, on the other hand, was living in a luxury apartment in Lekki and driving 3 different SUVs. Tope has a wife and 3 children. Tope could practice what he preached by going to do charity with his wealth and meeting top christian pastors to engage in community projects. Seun could not practice his own charity, he had no money to give anyone and lacked the necessary connections to do projects.

The question now is- who is intelligent between the two brothers? Seun or Tope?

You see, on paper, Seun would be more intelligent and his experience would be beneficial to those who run businesses. However, in the society we live in, Seun is a failure. "What did his atheism and his intelligence plus education get him? Foolish atheist Seun! Could he achieve his dreams? Respect to the boss man Tope! The guy runs his own business and rolls in luxury. The guy only has a diploma...he crawled his way out of unemployment.....remain private jet jooo....God is blessing him!!"


The simple point from this story is that the world is unfair and intelligence on only paper (degree) only works in a fair world. I laugh sometimes when some atheists rant about how Nigeria is; they say "oh Nigeria is filled with illiterate people who just follow religion without thinking! There is no proper debate or policy on abortion! There is no separation from church and state! etc" << The reason why atheists are saying such is because we are losing in Nigeria. Talk is cheap. We are losing.

Take a look at the sermon topic "intelligent people win". Christians and muslims understand the power of numbers and politics. They use the sheer voice the religious crowd to force their religion on government policies. The few atheists then complain and cry. The atheists are only intelligent on paper, just like brother Seun. Brother Seun can do management consultancy and help you run your business but he is broke and has no job or business himself. The atheists in Nigeria need to win. Just like the American atheists, humanists etc who have pushed against religious intolerance and still continue to do so. The have succeeded in stirring up the debate about religious symbols in govt buildings. They have pushed back on creeping creationism and religion in public schools. They are winning. They are intelligent both on paper and in practice.


If you want to see Nigeria change, you have to do it. You have to win. Do you think that slavery just stopped when christian and secular abolitionists said that slavery should stop? No. There were slave uprisings, there was serious debate, there was even a civil war. Just sitting back and saying that "I dont bother with religion, I just mind my own disbelief and get on" is foolish. Why? Because a boko haram member doesnt mind his belief- unlike you who keeps your disbelief to yourself. The could bomb you and your family if you are in an international building in Abuja. A religious bigot will force you enter embarrasing situations because you want to buy birth control or contraceptives. Many religious people do not mind their business if even you mind your beliefs.


I believe that atheists should be both intelligent on paper and in practice. Play the game. Play the politics of life. If a silly church is causing a 3 hour traffic delay just because they are having revival camps (church members blocking roads with bad parking), there is nothing wrong in writing numerous letters (preferably anonymous or with pseudonyms) to the local or state government and newspapers to stop the nonsense. Or would you rather be 3 hours late and miss business opportunities because of traffic caused by some meddling church?


Note that I am not saying that it is a crime to be poor (with relations to Seun in the story). The point is that you're in a society/world where poverty is looked upon as a disease. You can only influence or achieve something when you have the means to do so. Here in Nigeria, if you are poor, you are not intelligent whether you read books or not. The illiterate pastor who has a mullti-million dollar church is the wise man.


Food for thought.

*passes around atheist tithe bag*

The sermon is ended. Please, go in peace

Pastor good morning ooo, I have some questions

philfearon: You dont have a strong Faith in God,thats why with a little obstacle,you are all about saying Your trust in God caused u something...Bro,like i said,if u want to enjoy God,you have to displease yourself...If you think u can please urself and please God,thats a Mistake...
If i go to the bible nw,u wil start attacking me,so i wil use a place of Work 4 example..
For u to be retained in a company's payroll,u must be a worker..For u to be retained longer,u have to be able to displease urself by waking up early everyday and going to work..You wil make sure that u obey every single rule in the company...The longer u stay in this company and work hard,u get increaze in salary,promotion and other incentives...
Now,you are getting all these becuz u are obeying the company's rule and instructions and the likes...But what happens when u dont obey them? You are fired....Your probability of being back is almost equal to zero...
Same with God..The more u stay in God,and obey Him,despite the obstacles,thats the more u grow in knowledge of Him and understand Him more..But unlike the company case,when u stop obeying God,he wil temporarily go out of ur way,but wil be hoping you come back to Him...If u eventually admit ur sin and go back to Him,He welcomes u wit open arms,and then just like in humans,you wil realise just how much u have missed Him in ur life...
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If u expect that trusting in God means that things will be rosy for u,that means u started off on the wrong note...Many people have died preaching about him..Many were killed,beheaded,cruxified,thrown into burning oil,thrown into burning furnace...Why do u think He allowed them die when He can save them? The thing is,there is nothing here on earth.....Everything here is vanity....You have Asha200 today,tomorrow Asha305 wil come out,and ur interest in Asha200 wil subside...We want to look gud,appear wel and doing b4 family members and society,and all that....You build a house with 10rooms,yet u sleep in one room,in a particular corner of the room...All is vanity....But then,u die,the flesh u are labouring all this earthly things for,will get devoured by terminates within weeks,and none of ur accumulated wealth wil be buried with u.....Whats the gain?....
When u decide to look past this life,thats when u wil start appreciating the Essence of God in ur life!! One luv..

In your analogy of a work place, I believe the employer is God, the employee humans right? Job description will be our duty to God abi?

But before I go further, who is Satan in the anology? Where would you classify temptations?

chris_villa: yea and you are a disgrace to satanism

God forgives but satan Dont

I don't believe in Satan mate!!! If I wanted to believe in a super being,it should be God

chris_villa: hey OP,GO FVCK YO SELF OR BETTER STILL GO FVCK LUCIFER

YOU KINDA MAKE THIS A DEBATE INSTEAD OF A SIMPLE DISCUSSION

MY MIDDLE FINGER TO YOU

Wow, you are a complete disgrace to christianity sha

philfearon: Yet,it is the most circulated book of all time...Why is that?
The books written by your genius',where are they?

Because it plays on the human psychology,our innate desire/ curiosity to answer the question, why are we here?

Basing the validity of the bible on its popularity, is the fallacy of ad-populum. Anyway even the bible said that broad is the way that leads to hell, so by your logic and bibilical injunction, Alpha's master Satan is the true God? Right?

Mr.T Anonymous:
I was about typing that,coincidence bro,before I had to thank God for saving from an accident that I was involved in,bt now i see it as coincidence.
Foxy,come to think of it,even those known as devoted christians still suffer,they live as if they are animals,finding it hard to eat a three-square meal,finding it hard to send their children to school,finding it hard to clothe themselves.
Can you explain this to me
And I won't be pleased if you start telling me that he is giving us a test!

Talk of my mum praying everyday for God to give me a job,testing my arse.

If you don't have contacts in the industry,relevant certification or job experience,getting a job will be challenging. No God is needed there simple and the earlier one conditions his mind and accepts reality the better. I seriously can't be bothered about god

Foxy_Flow: I wanted to keep quiet initially but could not surpress the urge to air my view. Why would people blame God? Even as the so called atheist they profess to be. This is so ridiculous.

You put your trust in God you say. You sall all manner of things. You blasphem against God. You sin. You cheat. You lie. But yet God loved you. One thousand of you apply for a job, you get it. You think you are the most qualified? Think again.

I have worked in two organizations where I was/is the least qualified during the interview. All I did was ask God to take control, asked him for favour and then practiced what I had learnt. Those with bulky certificate files lost the job but it was given to me who came with only a CV. Isn't God wonderful?

I resigned from a job at the knick of time before the kano attack which claimed many lives. You don't call that luck, there is a spiritual force at work.

I left Kano for Kazaure a night before the post election violence. My people begged me not to go on a night journey that I should leave in the morning. My spirit kept telling me to go, made me restless until I left. The next morning, the same spirit came and told me to leave my house off campus and head into the school. There was no lectures. I dragged around until I finally got to school. As soon as I stepped into the school, all hell was broken lose outside the school. Do you call that luck or prenomition?

Come off it bro. Incidents around you should let you have a feel of an ever loving father in heaven who is ready to help you.

My mind never spoke to me. It was and still is the spirit of God. When I go against that spirit, I am met with problems. I have tried it severally and never liked the results. God exists, I am not proving it. I am only telling you and his love abides forever.

If you have a challenge, just call upon him in the days of trouble and he will answer you. Seek him now while he is near.

Peace be unto you bro. Your freewill is as a result of a loving father. But remember, everything is taken into records. When someone offends you without asking for fogiveness, you hold unto that offence to revenge later. Think about it Sir.


God bless you!!

Oga abeg no start on the job matter...

lady gogo: I'm questioning religion right now and currently reading the grail messsage.


I have zero tolerance for Nigerian christians and churches.

Hmmm Zero tolerance??!!! Abeg oh no go turn AtheisticHaram ooo

Pastor LB no sermon today?!! I actually like that thread

nwuyag: I 'm not you know.
going in a banter with you is a waste of my time.
I don't even know you. Maybe you should go take your undulating and confused life to somewhere else. I dint force you here

Very typical!!!! Logicboy used to be cantankerous like you,till he learnt to be more polite, that you don'( believe in god is not a licence for to you to behave like a cow,evolution has brought you far,act like a human being