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rammytt: u don't mean it 2.1 in EEE and u r stil out there for ova a yr looking for a job..did u finish frm zamfara state?

Nairaland and sacarsm anyway I finished from FUTO

funkybaby: yes, online applications do work.

to have had 4 interviews and not had success in at least one means your interview skills are really, really poor.

that is what you need to work on and polish.

the job market is very competitive so every opportunity counts.

it pointless getting shortlisted for the final stage so many times and then messing up.

have you tried practising in front of a mirror before you attend an interview?

practice interview questions out loud and make sure you record an audio of yourself while at it. then play it back ... it will give you an idea how good/confident/rubbish you sound to potential interviewers and that way, you know what you need to work on.

also do 'mock' interview sessions with a friend/experienced colleague and have the person grill you and give you honest feedback on your performance.

I will work on the interview part..thanks

Tinkybabe: Your paper qualification looks attractive and so I want to assume you're not being shortlisted due to lack of experience.I can imagine you saying where would the experience come from when they are not ready to recruit you.

That's where sacrifice comes in-if it means working voluntarily to garner the required experience or settling(in the mean time) for a low pay job that would gratify the needed experience,then do it.

Your poise and responses to interview questions matter too,how convincing you sound that you're the man for the job.Attend seminars,read books that would help improve these skills.

Also develop other transferable skills (you know them)that would give you an edge over your counterparts-don't rely on your paper degree alone.

And to your question,Yes!online applications very much work.

All the best with your search.

I kid you not when I tell you, that I have asked many companies for internship and even volunteering without pay just for learning opportunities to no avail!!!

2busy: Very good response to this topic
In addition, while at home try your hands on other skills apart from your 2.1 in Elect engineering
Try and learn software like AutoCAD (Acompulsory software for all engineers), PDMS for cable tray routing, Intools for instrumentation etc, if you are intrested in oil and gas job.

try upload your cv in site like: oilandgasjobsearch, oilcareer, miningjobsearch totalcareer etc

Best of luck and don't give up

Thank you, I already taught myself Autocad,to you have any place where I can learn PDMS and Intools? Online or offline..

25omega: poster this is a good question. I personally do not believe it works. While i was searching for jobs in my area i sent out tons of applications on the monster.com, careerbuilder.com etc and no one ever called me back. the only people who called were the placement agencies that would place you in a temp job and collect fees from your pay.

The only thing that worked and has worked consistently has been craigslist. i don't know if this is available in Nigeria but it's a website where people post all sorts of things including jobs. It works because you can see posting by the day. meaning any post that was posted today, you can send application to and you know they are def looking for someone.

Those job sites will almost never update their data base and tons of people will apply for the same position. If you can find a site that posts jobs by the day you will do well. Also be willing to take a job that is not in your profession while you are looking for the right job. This way your skills and mental sharpness is not being wasted.

Thanks Man great advice!!!

In Yuzedo's voice I give up... Naija is a long way from home.

*exits thread*

davide470: 1. Before i say more, what did u study?
2. Have never fancied the idea of Cover letter.. U can imagine a recruiter having 1,500 CV to go through, and you are nw adding Cover letter..
There are some free UK CV assessment site.. U send them ur CV, and they grade it with corrections.. Google them out, they have helped me

I studied Electrical and electronics engineering (2.1) B.Eng hons...(Lol)

Okay I will do just that, I have about 600 painstakingly written cover letters and I now vary my template according to the job and recruiter. I take my time on every application I make.

I will check out the websites thank you for dropping your comments.

Alfa Seltzer: Deuteronomy 25:11-12

11 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, 12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.

Like seriously?!!!!

nokingasgod: No Sir, you didn't get the point. I am not saying the op is wrong or right. What I said was that it was possible for that woman to be suffering from MPD and also that most of the ailments, predicaments and sicknesses we take to the churches and ''men of god'' are things that could be taken care of easily if there was no systemic collapse in Nigeria. Let's try to be informed and enlightened please. Are we the only people on earth that a coalition of devils, demons and other principalities are always tasking us in all spheres

I couldn't have said it any better and also the OP is out of tune with reality

ajayikayod: investing in R& is a great direction which will lead science gradually to the reality dt it is limited in scope and understanding. We are not against science and we understand its zeal for knowlegde, but it has to wait till it embrace its weakness and seek light. lik i said, science is still infant, 80% of wat u see today thru science will hav vanished years to come thru progressive maturtity

Without science, the world would still be in the dark ages!!! Look around and tell me just one thing that has increased the quality of human life that was derived from principles in any holy book. If our Lord Jesus said give to Caesar what is Caesar's. Fact is that most cases of deliverance are perfectly curable mental problems.

An expression dt more exposes limitation of science in human affairs

'Science' doesn't just mean building rockets,it is the systematic study of things, mind as in the case of psychology. There is more knowledge in science than in the bible, the bible is a guide to lead us to God not a science textbook.

The phone/laptop you are using were not derived from the book of Romans, its an accumulation of years of sweat and tears of various individuals

Actually, it was science dt believed in flat earth, the word of God showed otherwise (Isaiah 40:21-22). are u not aware dt when science is clueless, it takes a glimse from God's word.

Sorry my bad,the church once held that the earth was the centre of the solar system. Which turned out to be wrong!!!!

Most ppl, not all pple. Mayb u never met d other ones who without fear of hell or demons worship God with clear understandin.

Of course I cannot say all people, because yes I've seen people without fear of hell nor demons that worship God

pmc01: Sincerely, Nigerians are hypocrites.

If you start your criticism when you are out of the system (FFK, El-rufai, Melaye, Patrick, e.t.c. as case studies), they accuse you of being dishonest; when you criticize while still in the system (like this man), they say you are disloyal.





Do we only know how to condemn without even reasoning on the issues been raised? Just asking.

Well there is solution, resign and state your criticisms as the reason for your resignation,in that way people will actually respect you.

Both scenarios above all a means of 'trying to eat your cake and have it' which we know is impossible!!!!

Nigerians are not hypocrites, Nigerians in authority are selfish and when they try to pretend they are honest? It stinks to the high heavens (FFK, El-rufai, Melaye, Patrick, e.t.c. as case studies)

Ramanto: A Military govt wudn't have been any worse than this in terms of freedom of xression.Okonjo shld have simply cleared herself out of the mess if trully the alligation was wrong rather than showing Nigerians that she's 'untouchable'...God punish all the evil leaders

I wonder how we always analyse things emotionally,

This is a case of insurbodination if you want to criticise your boss in public,always make sure you resignation letter has beem written already.

Have you seen the 'I quit' video on youtube? Now that is how to criticise your boss; on YOUR WAY OUT

ajayikayod: Becos d Op is wrong doesnt neglect d fact dt ppl can be influenced by d devil. Actually d system (governing) of d world itself daily shows how effective his influences are.

U can call it anyname (MPD, SSD or any). d fact remain dt science discovery is still in infant stage and cant register reality beyond its senses.

If religion knows it all why would you think governments and large coporate bodies invest billions of dollars in Research &Development ?!!!!!
because they love wasting money?


Please leave science as what it is, most people that are 'possesed' have serious mental and psychological issues.

Remember once upon a time the church believed the earth was flat and even killed a christian for saying otherwise.

Most pastors generate these fears to keep the people stuck,most people worship God out of either fear of hell or of demons or both.

Okija_juju: How many Planes have crashed under Stellas Watch biko nu?!


Azazi died in a Military helicopter crash - Are we blaming her for this one?!

Suntai crashed himself as well - Are we blaming her for this one?!

Agagu Crash - Well.. We have not seen the NTSB report on the cause of the crash for this one yet.

Dana Aircrash - Another well.. They never published the NTSB report on the cause of this either..

So on what grounds do they want to pull the best Aviation minister in Nigeria's history?!



Rather than hurriedly call for her resignation, why not wait for the NTSB reports on the causes of these crashes?!

All these people always trying to put down the Igbos in government despite the fact that all the best performers in the Nigerian Government have all been Igbo:: From Soludo to Nnaji to Akunyili to Iweala to Oduah!!


#She aint going nowhere..

Funny thing is that those reports never see the light of day in this country...

The responsibility for safety of any millitary aircraft lies on the army.

Nigerians will even blame the Road Safety corp marshal for accidents caused by drink driving...

nokingasgod: From all indications, the girl in question may be suffering from Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD). It is a mental sickness whereby a personality developed other unnatural personalities within the same body acting these personalities under different names, behaviors, characters etc. For instance, she may be Ngozi, a good nurse and also Tola, a terrible and cruel mother, and also Aisha, a killer girlfriend etc and at different times unconsciously. Ngozi will act like a normal Igbo woman with all the idiosyncracies combined with her education. Same for the Yoruba Tola and the Hausa Aisha. It is another level and dimension of insanity and many people we termed as mad in Nigeria today are simply suffering from MPD.

Of course, you may call that demons if you wish after all, we are still in the dark ages as occasioned by the monumental neglect of the basic sectors - healthcare, education, infrastructure etc by successive governments and leaders, so, we apply religion to all things and pretend as if we are the holiest on earth. But in the West, it is cured combining hypnotism with science.

Gbam!!!! May Oluwa continue to illuminate your path

Peinstein: Glad she is being summoned. Reform is not about change or uplift of physical infrastructure. Just as changing police uniforms or goldplating police stations wouldn't stop our police officers from taking bribes. She has done well in uplifting our airports, but she is the minister of aviation and not aesthetics. I will feel more assured with an oshodi-oke airport that enforces necessary safety standards and practices than one which houses decent flying coffins.

Kettle calling teapot black... The Senators should calling be for the resignation of minister of works more people die on roads in Naija on a daily than in plane crashes.

So because they fly more that is why they are concerned abi?!!! Hypocrites

Joagbaje: Don't try to play the holier than thou card here. This is about narrating an experience not glorifying the devil. When paul narrated his experiences even his challenges and suffering , from false brethren, shipwreck, fighting with beast at Ephesus and how alexander did him much evil .if you were in his day you would have said he was doing self pity.

I called relevant people to contribute . I didn't call those who don't . I didn't expect many post on this thread . My plan was if I dindnt get any response . I leave the matter . But some guys just chose to hijack the thread and on thing is leading to the other.

The people that I mentioned were totally set free . So I wasn't confuse at all on how to handle the devils. Tha SMS thing was just a strange thing . And most experiences are universal that's why I wanted to sample opinion. I only expected at least 2 or three people to share their experience if there need be.

If the devil can tamper with phones and computer , the Holy Ghost can do much more for our Favour . Every christian has power to cast out devils. So no one is glorifying him.

Lol..Joagbaje I believe you are in the deep end of the pool...so you are still stuck on the idea that devil sent you an SMS... Okay ooooooooo

DMainMan: Send me your CV and cover letter to my mail. Lets c if we can improve it to b mor enterprising.

I'll send you a pm now.thanks

pweety_tonie: Always restructure ur Cv to suit the job u are applying for dnt use one cv to apply for a secreatry and a customer care agent or a marketer or teacher...and always send ur cv with a cover letter well written cover letter and most importantly pray and believe in God

But I always restructure my cv and even add keywords to get through the online application software. Just sad

Thanks for the advice

InesQor: Sigh.

First off, I'll say make sure you start something for yourself while you seek a job. Pick up IT skills (many free resources online), be a marketing middleman (identify a demand and someone who supplies efficiently, and step in the middle), etc.

I say this because in my understanding Nigeria is a peculiar job scene. Jobs are scarce yet most of the extant ones are grossly underpaid. The exceptions are multinational companies and some professional careers.

On the other hand, seeking a job, dont only post applications online. Get around physically, it will cost some money but it will pay off. Dress nicely and go around to offices, dropping your CV and a cover letter identifying what you think you can do for the company. These so-called cold calls work really well in Nigeria.

I heard from an HR Audit professional (a friend) that some companies post job listings online but they are technologically backward so the CVs submitted there just pile up and the HR is lazy to sort through.

To your success!

Thanks Bro...very apt advice

DMainMan: It works. Please persevere and keep on. Dont give up.

Thanks DmainMan, how can I refine my application?

Please mods can you place this topic on the front-page,I believe it'll benefit me and many nairalanders

www.nairaland.com/1472203/online-job-applications-ever-work

Front-page please mods

aManFromMars: Smh. It's shocking that an atheist owns this site and he would let such... ..


well, his business, his rules...

Seun understands his business and the Nigerian market,espousing skeptical and athiestic views will surely hurt nairaland.

As for Joagbaje the guy needs help

Today will be my one year anniversary of temporary stay at home job(lol) after NYSC, in this one year I send out an average of 5 job applications a day not to talk of the ones i sent out during my youth service. that is roughly about 1500 job applications all online.

I have had only written 6 tests invites 2 online and 4 others at dragnet. In the 6, I made it to the interview stage on four of these occassions but was not hired anyway.

(I know I should have passed all six and made all interviews but i simply couldn't, though I keep working on improving my interview skills and aptitude test abilities)

But my question is do online job applications work? If yes how can i make my job applications more effective?

If no, please kindly tell me the alternatives because Owu wan kill me for here....


Mods please can this topic get to the front-page so I can sample different opinions... thanks

Joagbaje: They were spirit beings ,so they were industructable. They will be judged last day

well dear Joagbaje....fallen angels are spirits(if they exist) and thus cannot use mobile phones.

Anyway if you insist that you were sent sms by demons feel free to believe as you deem fit.

I might not know many things but I am categorically certain that no spirit can send sms ( I sound f00lish to myself even contemplating the idea)

Joagbaje: Fallen angels had affairs with women in genesis.

Genesis 6:1
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

How did the fallen angels and their offspring survive the flood?

Did they make Noah's ark?

Or were they part of Noah's family?

manny4life: Yeah, my point is CRYSTAL CLEAR. When the Bible said "Lest Satan take an advantage of us, do not be "IGNORANT" of the devices of the devil", the Bible made us understand that demonic agents manifest in different forms and ways. You're asking how did the devil get his hands on a mobile phone but you forget quickly that these are mere [b]physical [/b]items which are easily manipulated... Smh @ you. Whether you believe or not, that will not bother me, I'm not here to make you understand.

No wahala Manny... feel free to believe the devil has a mobile phone now. i am 100% sure na MTN d guy dey use because sincerely I believe MTN is possessed(on a serious note)



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InesQor: Do you have direct or indirect Biblical references I can back this up with? Because Jesus indicated otherwise in Mark 12:25

@GeneralShepherd lol me no sabi illuminati o. (P.S. I think its a bunch of make-believe)

lol when I said illuminati,I meant a strong intellectual illumination. Good to see another Nigerian that is not on the illuminati band wagon

escavros: We Easily believe stories of magic, of ritual killings and ritual money making, but yet when confronted with strong tales of the actual demons at work[i][/i], we shrug the tales aside and make a joke of it, meanwhile most of us sending negative responses to a matter as serious as this one presented here are actually going through such demonic manipulations, or maybe worse, but hypocritically deny it to make ourselves look good.

The devil is truly working hard to establish complacency in the church and we are making his job easy by denying the deeds of these demons.

If you are having challenges dont hide it, Jesus Died to rescue you and me.
He died that you and I will not perish in our bondage, but that we may be set free through the blood of Jesus Christ.

If you need a change in your situation, pls take a step of faith and pray with us.

Prayer: Father, please forgive me for my sins, wash me in the blood of your son Jesus Christ.
I'm aware that you came to set me free, today i accept your salvation and deliverance.
I declare through the blood of Jesus that "I am free in Jesus name"
Come into my life Lord Jesus and take total control of my life.
I surrender to you Lord in the holy name of Jesus
Amen

when presented with a case,I believe the rational thing to do is to explore every natural means of solving the mystery before blaming the devil.

I put it to you that it is even absurd trying to even argue with someone that the devil actually sent an sms....one or all parties involved in the story is are suffering from severe psychological stress.

manny4life: Please ask God to interpret the Bible to you... Where in my post did I say the "devices" are phone? Seek wisdom and understanding and you will receive it.

So what exactly is your point? care to explain how the devil got his hands on a mobile phone?

The level of believe in superstition in Nigeria is exponential, even when I was full time Christian,i knew back then that the spirit husband and wife gist was absolute hog wash. For folks that abstain from sexual immorality those dreams are natural ways of relieving sexual tension.

@InesQor,I really appreciate the way you present Christianity... with an illuminati mind