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Tinkybabe: Reason I said,we'd fine no matter the problem .Challenges would be faced in a relationship regardless anyway


Why would I be condescending?A person's worth(to me) doesn't lie in how much cash they have but in their attitude,character and self esteem.


We'd cut our coat according to our size.If it's something I can afford,I would take it upon myself.
For how long?As long as it takes which I believe wouldn't be too long..lol but really,like I said in my earlier post,he has to be success driven,prospective and focused.These attributes would make us go all the way and give it all it takes,come what may! not forgetting the God factor.

Finally,season come season go.No job today isn't no job forever.The right attitude is what is required.

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kambo: oga, stressing a point with som1 who doesnt understands d context u'r coming from is a futile exercise.
Read my previous posts b4 shooting. Ur knee jerks reaction are shameful.
I used 'mob' as an example of human anger and justice.
That the barbarity of mob action is frowned at suddenly adds wat to d point i'm making?
Supposing, ur boss issued a circular to all employees and an employee repeatedly defied his order , he got angry, and sacked all of them!? -
or supposing u left for wrk and left ur newly married wife to tend d house one day u returned earlier than usual to find her in bed with anoda man far gone in d act? Wat will b ur initial reaction?
Wat will b ur burning desire?
Oh.
U wont feel any anger. You wont feel hurt. You wont desire justice .
Ur rationality will automatically analyse the situation and you'll REASON things out with the errant employees and unfaithful wife!
Wat if ur daughter had a fever and u took her to get take an injection @ the nearest hospital. The careless nurse injects her with unsterilized needle givimg her HIV .
Wat will most highly educated atheists like urself initially do?
Will you feel an outburst of anger and desire justice ?
Wat u call civilized is being trained to suppress an emotion . The outward calmness of the aggrieved is a learned artificial behaviour.
In all these instances they'll b a desire 4 justice moreso if the wrong is perpetrated often.

If d point is above ur head ignore - instead of tryng to put words in my mouth.

Civilisation like you rightly said is the act of controlling your emotions and not reacting like an animal,this is very correct.

So If the God you serve(I can't say you speak for christians) does not have self control,why do you look up to Him/Her/It for moral guidance? It beats my imagination,why I should worship an uncivilised God,or perhaps God is just a concept that lays credence to the fact that gods may have been developed by uncivilised men to make rational sense of their world?

You have no case, Justice and anger are not compatible at all.
Let's see the definition of anger

Anger:it is an emotion related to one's psychological interpretation of having been offended, wronged, or denied and a tendency to react through retaliation(wikipedia)

Justice:Justice is a concept of moral rightness based on ethics, rationality, law, natural law, religion, equity and fairness, as well as the administration of the law, taking into account the inalienable and inborn rights of all human beings and citizens, the right of all people and individuals to equal protection before the law of their civil rights, without discrimination on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, national origin, color, ethnicity, religion, disability, age, or other characteristics, and is further regarded as being inclusive of social justice(wikipedia)

Justice from the above definition is no where based on anger,because anger causes one to loose objectivity.

So justifying your God with anger,makes him human.
Anyway how can I get angry if I already knew what you would do before you were even born?

It is either I didn't know,or I am a drama-king.

Switcommy: why wont i date a guy with no job...is it d job i am dating or d guy.....as far as d love is there,,,,we go carry go....if i get job,,,i will spend on him....

Theory is always different from practical...lol

Well it looks good on nairaland but the implementation is quite difficult.

First honestly ask yourself,'till when am I ready to spend?'

kambo: ur rationalizing. Which is out of context here.
Judgement is dispensed with and in anger- like pleasure is expressed with a smile. That is the purpose 4 d emotion,inter alia.
Justice is a moral debt tht must b paid and man understands this at a subconscious level thts y mob's lynching a theif arent operating on cold calculated logic.
Theyre operating at a more fundamental universal level.
A judge has his mind trained to rationalise ,so he can thru education place a veneer btw his mind and his root feelings,but this is artificial because in some cases the severity and gruesomeness of the act is so great tht - raw anger - manifests. Also people clamour for speedy justice.
By this actions which we perform ... (see my previous posts for conclusion).


Ur other questions about appeal etc are out of context and distortive.

Oga justice is not about anger and revenge,please...

Why do you think mob action is considered barbaric in civilised climes?

Why do you think speedy justice is denied most times?

Its better to set 10,000 guilty men free than to kill one innocent man.
But God can kill babies because their fathers offended him. Wow

Tinkybabe: Absolutely ,we'll hussle it together provided he's got prospect,he's success driven and he's focused.
There ain't no storm we can't wade together

When you date a guy that is jobless,the problems will always arise.

From him being touchy to you being condescending at time.

If you guys wanted to spend some alone time,its probably in a hotel. And who will pay the bills and for how long? How long can you wait for him to make it?

Wrong question!!!!

The right question is unemployed guys can you date a girl in your current situation?

Well as someone that is currently unemployed,read my words it is very very difficult and inconveniencing.

kambo: the angry mob illustration is used to used to make my point.
Atheists accuse G.o.d off being irascible, edgy,quick to lash out and sadistic for creating hell.
Yet , we justify man (acting in a mob) dispensing justice (though extra judicial) with fury and anger,
anger is d serum for the transport of d bitter justice.
I tied this principle to God who does same , dispense justice With ANGER. I showed how God is self controlled - his anger ripens with time.
In the pre-new testament era this wasnt always so - but thats talk 4 anoda day.
Concluding, with the fact tht if we excuse man (the mob in this case),
or the judge in a civil situation,
we i.e u sceptics invariably checkmate urself AND THIS WILL B USED AGAINST YOU wen u try to accuse ALMIGHTY! Like jesus checkmated the hounding pharisees ,saduccees again and again and again.
When you try to argue with God ,
its like playg ur best game of chess with only piece - ur king- against an infinite grand master!

Mob action or an angry judge is inexcusable.

But you can appeal a Judge's decision can the same be said about God?

kambo: assuming he were guilty as accused.

Assuming God existed and the criteria for him to be God were not met by Him (according to
some group of know alls - atheists etc )
The accusers of God would still be shooting themselves in the foot trying to prove him
ineligibile for HIS TITLE.
In the Bible, the accusers of Jesus, the religious authority (self entitled) were often
left dumb founded whenever they tried to wrestle with him with their wisdom.
With the card carrying flaming anti-God group, the logic isnt even far fetched to
throw them all into a ditch which they're blind to yet walking into.
For example.
I read in the papers the other day, of the rise in the rate of extra judicial killings in kwara state.
Many supposedly kidnappers especially were dealt burnt alive by angry mobs.
some cultists who went to have a night meeting met their demise when they were returning
because the local vigilantes suspected them to be armed robbers.
The misjudgement is lamentable but the motive behind the jungle justice is irreligious.
The mob were probably not members of the same religious group yet they unanimously
agreed , not through a process of cold calculated logicising, that certain things are
evil and they spurred by anger (they didnt put up the anger or fake it) , descended
on the culprits.
They're anger was satiated after justice had been met.
This lets us know a lot about the composition of the human being.
Anger is a burning craving in human society.And if aggravated enough and they have the means
man as a group will exact justice with speediness instead of waiting for some more formal
logical emotionally controlled artificial process aka the "civilized way".
If man,as a group, cannot extract justice cuz he is over powered, out numbered,e.g in the case of
a military regime, he'll put on an outer show of submission but secretly he'll be craving for justice
. like a thirsty man . in iraq, out of fear the populace were totally subdued so they put up
double behaviour to save their lives.
when Abacha was in power it was the same thing, smiling outwardly but weeping inwardly desiring justice.
This also shows that Anger is an accelerator a fuel for spurring the quick dispensation of brutal justice
which is needed to purge an evil out of its place. so anger , is good and essential like hot burning antiseptic is needed to cleanse a wound of bacteria/germs.
So back to the God in the Dock stand situation,
Imagine God is sorrounded by a pack of wolves , like Jesus was sorrounded by a heaving pack of pharisees, all it would take to uphold God's justice for the hot bowl of punishment He's going to
pour out on those who've resisted His will, will be our history.
Have you ever gotten angry before?
Did you ever burn with anger for a perceived wrong?
Did you ever exact speedy justice - by use of force of brawns or force of many (group of people)
Did you ever feel sated and satisfied when perceived evil was punished?
Did you feel you were right and justified for bursting out in anger?
Then if you being human , and having so short a life span and warped perspective relative to
an eternal being who saw it all and still allowed you get away with your actions,
felt just in ur anger and exaction of justice, God would be even more justified
. His anger has been brewing for years!!! - he's been accumulating it ,
and He's been pleading with the world to repent and turn away,
He's warned the world about His wrath,
He's warned them about the outcome and consequence of HIS WRATH,
He's shown and said that He doesnt circumvent HIS OWN decrees unlike men but rather
legally satisfied them, e.g He sent Jesus to die for man
He didnt use his sovereignty as God to over ride things but made Jesus pay the full brutal price
,get beaten beyond recognition till his skin hung like strips of rangs from his Body,
bearing the full wrath of God that should have been visited on man,
proving that even God is bound by HIS spoken word!!.
Then , on the dock before HIS accuser, he'll have all justification to visit with SPEEDY
ANGER HIS WRATH on the stubborn hold outs who defy and continue to defy his HOLY STANDARDS!!

GOD'S accuser will be dumbfounded , check mated , non plussed , mouth agape that a fly can
buzz in an out, just as it was with the pharisees and Jesus' accusers in the Bible.

God could have been alone,chilling or doing whatever he was doing before he created man.triillions of years of happiness ruined because he wanted worshipers.

How can he know man will cause him grief an still create him?

kambo: somebody sang "There ar mor questions than answers".

The bible is obviously a summarised book-if it contained every trivial fact and answer a curious mind required it wouldnt b portable.
Questions like these ar often asked by people with one foot out of d door. Many questions cannot b answered categorically because there's no direct answer from scriptures but does that qualify for a leap to debunking the bible!? No.
Just like they ar many questions in d sciences man cant answer yet he hasnt stopped believe in science.
As a side note to those chanting rationality, the very foundations of scientific knowledge rests on some glaring irrationalities and ambiguities. Scientists hav to accept certain things in faith! Until
actual verifiable proof are obtained.
As a matter of fact lives and philosophies ar built on beliefs. A belief doesnt require verifiable proof to be.
But they are many many cases in scripture where God is clearly inviting Him to take Him on.
Sometimes a prayer isnt answered, and we so desperately believed God wouldnt fail us - yet the expectation,the prayer didnt work, if prayer isnt reliable then we cant count on God to help us all d time right?
Many people sweep such cases under d carpet-and hush up on it.
I think we shud seek to know why and continue investigating why there was failure, otherwise the confidence to take God at his word just wont b there.
If u keep an open mind and do ur research, u'll discover many answers 4 urself.answers wont fall on you. Some scientific discoveries took man centuries to discover ,e.g calculus - d greeks wrestled with d concept but failed until the 18th century, did that make the idea false because they cudnt understand it? It takes pride to think so. Simple they didnt know.
Same with u. U dont know. But put in ur share of work.like d greeks did. Som answers,like calculus, are to weighty to b discovered by lazy grippers.

Tell me one thing in science accepted by faith just one.

I was really enjoying your post till I read and I quote, 'Scientists hav to accept certain things in faith! Until
actual verifiable proof are obtained'.

The Cleaner: My fellow Comrade, if derz anytin u shd hv, its faith..if derz anytin u shdnt lose its, its hope...God hs plans for every1 on earth. Seek n fear him, nt jst for d purpose of recruitments, but to rily knw him. Evrytin wld turn arnd, jst a matter of time. Jst went tru the thread u created askin if Online application wrks..I knw it does work. Feb wld mke it 1yr I wrapped up ma service. Ws favord 2 leave schl wit a 1.0 frm ChemEngr and can boast of havin lots professional certs unknwn 2 a fresh grad, but I can't boast of a very gud job. Altho I had a job durin the year wch I resigned frm cos I was being undervalued and lied to smhw..regardless, I am vry hopeful n 4eva loyal to God's gudness and I kw smday, smtin gud wld cme frm smwer.

As an aside again, do u play COD4 multiplayer usin a local server with ur fellw guys..the one with backlot, showdwn, shipment etc stages, or u jst play d game missions only?
Semper Fi

I haven't tried local servers ooo,I play on Ps3 and of course our internet sucks. But the multiplayer sounds like fun

On the job matter,thank you for your kind words.

babyosisi: Oya if you have enjoyed this thread,please click on my signature ,join in and come and know more about me.
I will be grateful

But this is not right now

The Cleaner: @GeneralShepherd: lmfao. you knw u a very funny man. i luv ur objectivity and realism, but i believe God has control over everything. You fasted and prayed last year and got no response mite b because God has greater plans for you, say a Total or Chevy..have you ever considered that..? My brother fasted and prayed for guiness and customs jobs 2yrs ago...dint get them. without man knw man, he currently works in NLNG living large in bonny. his case is what keeps me going during my job search. One day, we shall all get our much desired breakthru.

As a diversion, do u play COD cos thats where i first heard the name General Shepherd. the guy bad gan. weh beat Cpt. Price and Soap Mactervish simultaneously. na God jst save them both that day.

Die hard COD fan bro...I always look forward to a new one.

We keep on pushing forward,but honestly I have lost all faith in God. Just trusting in my own objectvity and working hard. Infact this days when people tell me 'It is well' when you ask them for a job referral I hate God more. Not that I believe he exists but the concept of him.

Anyway bro,your story is inspirational,someday we'll get there.

The Cleaner: i graduated within the last 24 months, but its amazing how my application is still under review. i have a classmate who has done his phone interview. well, like i mentioned about a week ago, its by Gods grace only. Graduate with whateva degree u like whenever you like, Gods grace trumps all of that. thanks folks.

Oga..God aint got nothing to do with it...

I remember fasting wey I do last year before phone interview still,nothing.

It is pure coincidence,for a few and man know man for many.

Mettal: which breeds do you need to buy.

I meant pay in customs to receive imported dogs, no offence the quality of dogs from Nigerian breeders is absolutely horrible

JUNE12: Tell God to proove to you that he exists tonight and he will do just that.Christianity is by faith and not only by works.

Lol,He never does I've tried that bit

Rastamann: Sacrificing his physical ability for riches!

Typical Nigerian superstition...smh

Jelo4kul: I pray for his miraculous healing.Nothing is impossible for God to do

Well its not going to happen but if it happens then I'll know Yaweh exists

That God might not really be a real being!!

Nairaland keeps getting crazier by d day

The carnal mind cannot understand spiritual things.

Haaahaaahaa

You cannot use a carnal mind to understand spiritual things.

Thanks and Regards...
Typical christian

mmark12: Looking for a great job,
International travel,
Great pay and benefit
Work permit done on your behalf if successful

Appy early
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BG Group Graduate programme / entry level
http://www.bg-group.com/CAREERS/APPLYNOW/Pages/GradsApplyNow.aspx

Oga you see Nigeria there?

newmi: @GeneralShepherd:
"How many times will I say this,it is MADNESS to say supernatural being can send sms or email!!!!
Absolutely ludicrous"

Yeah you are right its "madness" and "absolutely ludicrous" so then what would you then say about "spirit money" and "supernatural beings" (because the Christian a "supernatural" being as well) using bank accounts mysterious moneys appear in such accounts or spirit actually giving humans physical cash to spend and these legal tenders are originals and authentic not counterfeit.
Spirit bringing clothes to a person.
The point is don't be too quick to call something what it is not just because you haven't found out if such and such does exist or you disagree it does

Banking error happens to everybody christians and non-christians including atheist so that is no proof.

Have you ever seen a spirit? Are spirits physical? How then did they give humans money to spend?

Are you just relaying the things you heard?

How come these spirits only choose to manifest in Nigeria and Africa?

davidylan: My cousin lives there with a husband and 2 young daughters. She has a home there too. She doesnt pay $300 in G/E. Perhaps you should go to sleep.

Bro nobody dey see you for religion section again?

How's work?

How does this affect the fact that I'm jobless..kudos gej

But I hate Nigeria ?

gowaga68: AKC is American but that doesn't mean only americans are there...

Please how much do I pay here in Naija to get the dogs

amara.lizzy%40y:
Dat was d confesion she made in 2008 when she join chosen nt knowin everytin was recorded nw dat demon in her has startd usin her again, she tink her plans cn work neva. And i pity dose dat has curse d man of GOD becos of dis her evil, fake n blasphous CD dat she is usin 2 mak money. I am a chosen i cn nt be decieved

You can only commit blasphemy against God, has claims might be lies but can never be blasphemous!!!!

givic: My dear the best thing that can ever happeen to a man is accomplishing his or her 'dreamz'

When I was little I wanted to be an astronaut,then I grew older I changed my dreams to being a pilot, now I'm an engineer job hunting.

My point is don't always be dogmatic in your dreams, always optimise your dreams,I can't judge the poster who resigned his job because he company tried to alter his career path but taking a detour to reach the ultimate goal is what matters.

Before you say money is not everything,make sure you have lots of it before say such 'nonsense'. (Its a quote ooo no be insult) My ultimate goal make MAD money. Simple

Graduate assistant FUTO on my mind...
New oyel company

I for say...eheeee

When my girlfriend starting sleeping with my best friend ,and gave me the 'Can we talk' goodbye lecture.

It felt like a bus ran over my heart.I felt like a weakling and
I saw myself like something was wrong with me. Thanks to the Op, now I know it wasn't my fault.

Yipeeeeeee...

Anyway I've disconnected that part of my brain now. Thanks