₦airaland Forum

suwalee:
so are u saying the ika ppl are igbos?

All anioma people, Ika, ndokwa and Enuani usually have identity issues and this is something i will not deny. Some of us accept being igbos, many others reject it and some really do not care or are are confused/in between (like me, LoL).
The only difference is that you have more igbo denials in the Ika and Ndokwa axis than in the Anochia/Oshimili axis.

Uniben4sure:
The reason is simply political! Once Anioma state is created and your people are now independent from the majority tribes in Edo and Delta states, those uncles of yours will embrace their Igbo identity. Their denying Igbo is sort of a survival strategy in Edo and delta states.

This whole issue was caused by the domineering Bini empire of those days. Same thing was done in yorubaland up to Lagos but during the periods of state creation, those areas in yorubaland conquered by the Bini empire were rightly carved into Yoruba states. Same was not done about the Igbo's in Edo and Delta states. It's all a ploy to make you lose your Igbo identity.

You have a point but i think all these divisions started with the colonial masters, they classified all Nigerian grouls at the left side of the Niger as Western Nigeria and since then the destiny of our people has been tied to other western Niger Nigerian groups and not Eastern Nigeria. The river Niger is just the big gap between us.

I'd be glad if our people are granted Anioma state but i really do not see how this will make us proudly identify as igbos unless Anioma state is added to the South-east.
Ikas, Ndokwas, Anochias and Oshimilis are somehow united because of the fact that we do not want the other tribes to see us as minorities and we want to have a greater say. I bet you that once we are in our own state, clannish divisions will come in, Ikas will be against Anochias and Oshimilis will be against Ndokwas on issues like who will produce Governor, Deputy, Speaker, minister e.t.c. That's why a part of me still prefers we remain in Delta state.

Alexis11:
You don't understand ma'am. An average Igbo is not comfortable anywhere he's not dominating or at best, doing far better than others.

Sometimes I wonder why the same tribe that stopped our regional government just because they got power decided to have their own country immediately the power was taken away from them.

This is nothing but the truth. They just have to know that sometimes you are dominated and other times you doninate, that is the height of selfishness and that is why most Niger deltans will never accept Biafra because they know it is just going to be nothing but domination all through.

Sunexy:
Take sex like doctor's prescription...2 in the morning and in the night

LoL, overdosage can kill or don't u know?

Ok

Chanchit:
Did you just say he would beat the target? That is if Mark allows, what about if you like the page and e no gree like nko?

You are hillarious.

My Igbo brothers. I don't think Biafra is the way forward, i wish all this energy you guys are spending on this Biafran issue could be channeled to demanding good and credible leadership in your states. The igbo man is not suffering more than the others in this country.
The bad leaders are the problems we have in this nation and neither are igbo leaders saints.

Goodluck to you guys however. We Deltans dey look una.

Uniben4sure:
Miss, nobody is forcing you to choose Igbo identity! I don't know how else to say this so that it sticks. You are free to claim whatever you want to be. All we are saying is that the majority of Anioma people (98%) are and have on several occasions acknowledged their Igbo identity. The problem comes when a microscopic few of you (2%), in your attempt to remain relevant in Bini politics and Niger delta oil politics, try to rope the majority Igbo's in Anioma into your identity crisis.

But I always laugh at you lots because even in Benin city, Bini people know and identify you as who you really are--Igbos!

My closest friend in school happens to be from igbanke in Edo state. The guy has made it clear to me that the reason why some of you deny Igbo is because you want to remain relevant in Edo and delta politics, and I kind of understand because knowing the level of tribal bigotry in Nigeria, people like you (ika people) who were carved into states where you are in the minority will always seek out means of becoming relevant in the affairs of the state, even if it means denying your roots.

This why it is very necessary that the proposed Anioma state creation comes to reality so that you guys can have a state of your own where you will not be identified as minority.

For now, you can keep on your unfortunately fruitless efforts to force yourselves on the Binis.

Shalom!

Well, its not the way you look at it. FYI, First of all, my part of Anioma is Anochia and not Ika. Though we are all one.

Yes, many of us Anioma people do accept to be called Igbo, but just that it only happens occasionally. The same Anioma people that will tell you they are igbos today, tomorrow will tell another person that they are not. We are just somehow in between. It's like we jump in and out LoL. I myself have always wondered and questioned some of my uncles why it is that way but yet no responsible answer.

From my own perspective i don't think it would be impossible or wrong for we Anioma, Ikwerre and other Igboid groups in the South-South to unite with the south-east igbos, just that it could be done with a new independent association with another name but not the name IGBO.
Most South-south ibo speaking tribes see igbos as relatives but i don't think all our people will ever fully accept to adress themselves as IGBOS.

blues20:
Igbo people must be very mighty indeed, to influence and change your language in less than a century.

Igbo is a majority tribe, so what do you expect? Igbos are now even dominating Anioma people in Asaba.

suwalee:
spot on!!!! Likewise The ppl of igbanke. The migration of igbo ppl into their land caused the whole ish. My father told me that wen he was growin up they basically spoke bini until some migrants(igbos) who came to d community to teach and trade.

No sis, i don't think it is that way. Most Anioma people are of mixed origins, some of our ancestors came igbo land, some from Bini and others from Igala, Esan and even yoruba, but eventually the igbo dialect came to displace the others. I think that was what actually happened

SlayerSupreme:
The bolded is the problem. Infact,that was the point Donarozzi was trying to pass across which totally went over your head. There's no particular negative lifestyle of the Igbo people. That's the kind of statement you get from some envious Yoruba people. Unfortunately,your people have picked it up and now that is the nonsense your elders(parents inclusive) feed you with. The same nonsense they were fed with soon after the war. The same nonsense you'll probably feed your kids. And the circle continues. Complete nonsense!!! Give us an example of the negative lifestyle peculiar to only Igbo people?

It seems like my comment really pissed you off. LoL. This is an example of what am talking of. Anger issues at the slightest offence. Many of you are like this. You guys boast a lot and are very pompous, very proud, very arrogant, temperamental, domineering and extremely intolerant unlike our people. Money is worshipped in most south eastern societies against core human values. Am sorry if i sound too indiscreet but that is just what i have observed.
My friend, it's not just about what our parents tell us, it's about what we experience ourselves, we are not dummies, we interract with Igbos on daily basis and we even intermarry and date each other. The only group of south-east people i think are like we Aniomas are Nsukka and Onitsha peeeps, but Anambra, Imo and Abia are a no no.

CSTR13:
Your husband is a yoruba man. Then his behaviour and the response of his family is not surprising.
Good-luck.

So, are you saying that Igbo men don't cheat or are not promiscuous? I have been with igbo guys and my cousin married one. So pls, spare us this

U welcome sir

This story may be false for all we know. People open up threads with fake stories just to attract traffic.

Donarozzi:
genieluv, you must understand that Agbor, Ubulu-Ukwu, Ogwashi-Ukwu, Ndokwa and Aboh areas are all Igbo. You are from the Western part of Igboland, and you are Igbo. Do not be brainwashed of your Igbo identity. Do not let liars deceive you. Enemies of the Igbo nation have brainwashed some Igbo of the South-South to believe that they are different from the Igbo of the South-East. Igbo leaders have also contributed to the miseducation and division of the Igbo people. I call for a fundamental re-orientation of the Igbo psyche so that we can collectively move forward as one people. That is why I solidly agree with Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe and Prof. Chike Edozien (the Eze of Asaba) who insisted that the entire Igboland should be grouped together in one geopolitical region, as such would ensure Igbo unity and facilitate the rapid development of the Igbo nation.

Well, for as long as i know, most igbos do not regard Anioma people as true igbos unless when it comes to issues of their own favour.
The reason why most anioma people do not see themselves as igbo is because the characters of both people are very different and the cultural outlook and view of life too differs. There is this character that the real igbos posses that we anioma people do not posses. Even though i did not grow up in Anioma (my father's original place), i can still tell the difference between real anioma people and igbos whenever i come across them.
Igbos have to change their ways and negative lifestyles before we Anioma people can ever think of accepting full igbo identity, consciousness and pride. Though it's not as if we hate igbos o, some of them are very nice but i don't just know, there is this distance between both divides.

QuotaSystem:
Lies! Rubbish sensational irresponsible journalism.

There are several secondary schools in Gudu LGA in Sokoto State and the one being built is in addition and part of the educational transformation going on in the state.

http://www.globalpartnership.org/fr/download/file/fid/46613

This list of yours is so terrible. Imagine the wide gap between male and female students. In a whole LGA female students are just 3% of the whole secondary sch student population. These group of illiterate women in the state are the ones who end up breeding almajiris and boko haram recruits.

attackgat:
Oh! I'm too small to decide the destiny of millions of Igbos? But it is Lord Lugard who is big enough to come to West Africa to decide that we are all "Nigerians"?

You are asking me to go to the National Assemby to ask for my freedom? Which National Assembly did Lugard go to when he 'roped' everyone into his illegal colonial construct called 'Nigeria'? Typical Nigerian, you are asking me as to go the political way of getting Biafra while accepting the fraud that made you a Nigerian.

Talking about opinions leaders, politicians and top business men, you think Biafra is an elitist thing? Biafra is about what the vast majority of the people in the SS/SE want or don't want and has nothing to do with social status.

Nigeria remains the illegal creation of the White man and it is an insult to ask those ethnic groups who were forced against their will into Nigeria to go to a political body called the National Assemby to ask the same freedom that was stolen. That is why the Government should conduct a referendum in the SS/SE area let the Igbo/Ijaw/Ibibio/Ogoni and the rest of them choose if they want to remain Nigerians or not. Those who vote to reman can continue as Nigerians while those who vote to go should be allowed to leave in peace. That's how sensible people do things, that's why Britain that created Nigeria gave Scotland the choice to go in 2014.

Guy, face the truth, you have no country. All you have is a forced union and nothing good ever comes forcing your self to be with another.

The rantings of ordinary street touts, area boys or social miscreants lead by one arrogant individual with a radio station overseas would hardly be enough to trigger seccesion, your political leaders, elites and elder statesmen must be fully involved in this struggle and speak with one voice for the agitation to ever see daylight.

tnthommie:
Im not a Biafran supporter tho but its appauling why the northerners and the yorubas dont wanna let the igbos go.

Its a well known fact that they hate the igbos from the bottom of their hearts, why dont u just let them go already?

If ur in a marriage where you cant stand the sight of your spouse anymore what do you do?

I don't think the issue is about letting the igbos go or stay. How many of their leaders, elites and national politicians or top individuals have given public support to the so called Biafra?

What kind of stupid list is this?

This is serious. Good initiative. But really, why is western education really a problem with core-northernerns?

OP
As for me, i'd say that national Christian unity would be quite difficult unless we have more christian leaders who would be able to create greater national christian unions that would be encompassing and show intrests to all.
Most christians are intrested in tribalism and tribal superiority instead which is to the detriment of all christians when it is time for christian intrests to be promoted.

theDEVILisHERE:
You people have to stop this crap about "Southern" whatever

THERE IS NOTHING LIKE SUCH NONSENSE!!

As 4 unity
listen and listen good!!

Igbo's as well as those of d Eastern region have nothing in common with descendants of killers, genocidist ,vagabonds and bastards who have there dirty hand soiled with the blood of innocent Igbo's as well those of the Eastern region

The so called idiotic Christians joined hands with jihadist and their diabolical evil slave masters the British to commit polgrom and genocide against people who did nothing to them

They killed and massacred innocent man, woman and children in their cities of Jos, Makurdi, kafanchan etc

You then expect Igbo's to unite with such decendants of killers and degenerates?

Do you think Igbo's are stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or you want Igbo's to unite with diabolical Shungo/Ogun worshiping, fraudulently deciving, camouflagingly pretending so called Christians who use diabolical/occultic means to deceive idiots into coming into those shrines they called church

Not gonna happen!!

Are you trying to say that there is no Southern Nigeria according to the bolded?

Guy are you a bitter individual. I never saw anything wrong the OP wrote that warrants such strong language and use of hate words and speeches from you.

If you dont have something positive to contribute, you should have better stayed away from the thread na

gidgiddy:
If after 100 years as a country, we have not found unity, we won't find it in another 100 years. Nigerian unity does not exist. Nigeria was created by Lord Lugard through the barrel of the gun, it has been kept together by the barrel of the gun since then. When something has to kept together by military force, such a thing has no future.

Well i don't think OP is talking about national unity but Christian unity.

jbhitler:
nonsense! can a northern Muslim girl marry a male Christian? they call us kaperi.but our girls marry them at will.we that were brought up in the north know how those people behave.even their females would tell you to islamize before dating you.here you find material minded Christian girls marrying anything that vomits money not just them.remember, be not unequally yorked.

Mantu is not from the core north, he is from the middlebelt and middlebelt muslims never discriminate against christians as such or call them Kafiri.
Mantu's family is even a mixed family, they have christians and muslims alike. I lived in Plateau state so i know them very well. Some Muslim middlebelt women do marry christians just like yoruba muslim women.
All what you are saying here applies only to d core north

JCKA23:
Any pillar home that is build on the pillar of deceit, not love but money and connection can not last.

I pity the girl she,, she doesn't know the agenda of a typical Hausa Muslim from the northern Nigeria...

Quote me and I mean it this will come 2 pass... when he finished her by having 2 to 3 kids that's when d wahala will start... he will force her to either convert to Islam or he will divorce her and get a much younger pretty Muslim girl, and she will never have access to her kids again.....

So in d whole of S/S, S/E, S/W she hasn't seen any good guy to marry na leprous awusa man she see... I pity her sha.

if she was any Muslim from south may be yelloba that she married it would have been good. but for this leprous man I pity her future.

Okay, just for your ignorance.
Mantu is not hausa, they are from the middlebelt (Plateau state) and Pyem by tribe. Must every northerner be hausa to u guys? Gosh!

telemapreye1:
When Bini(italo)marry hausa(Boko haram)

Mantus are not hausa, they are of the Pyem tribe from Plateau state (middlebelt)

efilefun:
Lol and some people still thinks those pushing them to war care about leaving this country, see Igbenedion Marrying an AWUSA lol yet some hungry folks would be here backing this people who never cared about them

Why must you guys think that every northerner is hausa?
Mantu is from the middlebelt (plateau state), he is not a hausa by tribe.

tayooluwole:
I am thinking of naming my child jesus but I am at d same time thinking of d implication within our religious society...

Dont, it will not go down well

Hmm this thread tho.

For me i do not think and will never believe that Anioma people are igbos.
Anioma people may be culturally related to igbos, but they are not igbos in the real sense.

I can see that most igbos here who have never really visited Anioma land in their entire lives are here concluding Anioma people to be igbos.
My Mother is from Ubulu-uku in Anochia and she does not accept to be adressed as igbo, likewise most of her family members do not accept igbo tag.

Identity is not by force i think. People should be allowed to choose their identity

saintfellow:
white men aint good in bed, black men are gorillas in bed, thats why the white women wnt let us be.

Being good in bed is not enough reason alone for a woman to choose a husband. There are better options to look out for. Black men only have very few advantages over white men when it comes to marriage.