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sod09:
Na una they gaslight na una they cry
Nobody send anybody for here, do your thing and leave others to theirs
I am sure that's not so hard

abi, it goes both ways shaa.

toluxe0075:
Lol 😂 😂 We have been a laughing stock in the eyes of rivals for a very long time. What do you think Netflix fc mean? Bottler fc? 2nd place fc? or we didn’t lose against top 6 fc? Next season fc? How about the elephant on top of the tree trolling? etc. In fact, the yoruba version for these trolling are worst.

Arteta gave a us glimpse of hope, but sadly, it’s gradually turning out to becoming the latter years of Wenger after the champions league finals. That’s why many of us are asking questions so we can get results, but we’ve been tagged as fake fans.

You don’t get respect by allowing failure to fester then give excuses to defend it every time. You gain respect by getting results. We can’t keep resting on achievements like “not losing to top 6 teams in the league for 2 season or best defensive record.” We should be building on them towards winning something tangible, and ask questions when we see lapses.

If our manager isn’t improving in areas we’ve identified for 3 seasons to be the cause of our downfall in latter half of the season, I see no reason why the fans shouldn’t question him. But you guys seem to want to build cult following around him.

Bro, the fact that rivals call you names doesn't mean you should give them more reasons to call you more names. After all that's what fanbase rivalry is all about. Na we bottle pass Liverpool?, last last they're winning titles now. And I no call anybody Fake fan, everybody get their own way of handling disappointment, but na to dey think say u dey rub am on follow fans face all because your opinion differs from theirs, that's the problem. BTW, all this our long talk aside, between Gyokeres and Sesko who do you think would fit into our system better and who's the best option?.

daveP:
Fact is there are many that have supported this club longer than any of us here. Some saw Graham and Wenger, Days of Adams and co. If they speak up and criticize, that's not caricature. That's love!! It will come in different degrees. Those repping should not pretend these guys that turn up week in week out with maximum loyalty don't have feelings. Naaah

If they scream today and something happens, na still dem go scream louder when trophies enter. Fact.

How many are not seeing that as hate for the club is hilarious to me. Sincerely. 2004

21years!!!
Well no be history recount time sha. But everyone dey see moves and trusted but now they are seeing patterns repeating. Query is justified!!

As for if improvements happened from that Bayern game....nope!
The bench remained unreliable still. Yes we made semis but symptoms still persist. Game tweaking problem still persisted.

Enrique and Inzaghi are two great examples of managers that tweaked things to get results this campaign. Woh. Talk plenty abeg.

Im sha happy for the emergence of Kiwior. That's the non Starter difference from last campaign that Bayern ended.

I get your point, but I know no one who saw prime wingers up till today will just make fun of the club like that. It's OK to state the obvious and push your opinion without trying to make the club a laughing stock in the eyes of rivals, that's even worse than anything else. Giving rivals the right and points to make gest of the club. But what do I know?..
Regarding that bayern game last season, a lot was corrected from it. Even against psg, if only our attackers were clinical it would have been a different game altogether.

daveP:
The actual truth is lessons are not being learnt. The top realization started in last season ucl vs Bayern. That was the game that everyone last agreed help was needed. Since that ouster, fanbase split became more defined. Then the summer came and then the January window, and it was vivid that someone was unserious.


How that suddenly made critics the haters of the club, i dunno. But in that same timeframe, rivals are putting in their work as well and that is the double blow. That's what's making all of this seem to critics that they need to be louder. But as usual, here we are. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

You don't get some of us point, we understand the need for striker but it didn't happen. And talking about bayern game last year, don't tell me you didn't notice the improvement in that area this ucl campaign?. We need a striker and with how they're handling both Sesko and Gyokeres matter, I know one of them will surely play for us. But then we need recruitment in other areas too. Criticism is essential, and highly welcomed but you check am, all those people wey dey question the club and the direction it's headed which of them dey make caricature of the matter?. Baba, personally I know sense dey for the whole talk, but na how it's been presented that makes the difference. Last last all of us want bragging rights as fans and want to see real success.

MSGAMBLE9:
Am just saying judging by the defensive record... I mean Arsenal has the best defensive record in CL and not a single defender in starting Xi ( not Timber nor Saliba)

Gabriel and Timber had a better run than Saliba in ucl shaa. defence wise

Roland17:
I get your angu, Timber had a good tournament but neither Saliba nor Timber is displacing any of Bastoni/ Marquinhos/ Hakimi or N. Mendes. All 4 players are terrific choices and considering they all played the finals with 3 keeping a clean sheet, gives them an added advantage. Bastoni had an overall great tournament in comparison to Saliba.

This is coming from Saliba's biggest fan.

You dey observe shaa. 🫡

We had a very stupid domestic run this year, but our ucl run can be taken as a positive (if the hate can allow some of us). This season was a disappointment domestically, but we can take the positives from it, a lot of teams wouldn't have finished second with the amount of injuries and red cards we got(though I can argue that Arteta and his medical team plus psychologist should share the blame for that).

daveP:
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A staunch Arteta supporter posted this today. Im wondering what changed

Realisation set in and the eyes are more open. Truth is we haven't been where we wanna be. But they owners love him, cus he's bringing in money and changing how the club is viewed from the past years, they see it as development and want to stick with him. I have no problem with Arteta being replaced with a better option, but since they still think that he's the right man for the job, would would we do. We can spend over 200m this summer without attracting any sections, so I expect they really do what's necessary this time and get him the players that fit the profile and not just any dicck and Tom that he or any other person mentions.

Just so you know who you're talking to, I've never blamed Pep for our misfortune. So better try another line when trying to take on me. Shalom.

Rip Reyes

Just as Henry said, "I’m not saying it’s a disappointment, but it’s normal that people are raising questions now about what the team is doing.” we should be competing for trophies and getting to them finals steadily and the lack of that can be blamed on everyone of them involved, from the players, to the coach, to the directors and board. Questioning what the team is doing is 100% different from hate watching.(but what do i know, i'm just a delulu Arteta lover, who wants Agenda) . We were interested in isak when he was still at sociedad but nothing concrete was done because the board thought the price was too much for such a player then. Same with other signings, but somehow it's always Arteta's fault. Werey rush go carry sterling wey him life don finish, and the board approve am sharp sharp. So much bitter leaf from people wey talk say 🤐

For someone who sees the signing of Calafiori as a scam and Merino too when our existing players in their position before their signing haven't been reliable in the course of a full season, that is the real definition of delusion. We all advocated for the signing of a striker and Saka deputy, but it didn't happen, so we should kill ourselves because of it or move forward with what we have?. We talk about packing defenders but when Ben white was out and if not for Timber playing through injury we would have been seeing Partey as a left back for long. Kiwior coming in for Gabriel, Calafiori giving skelly the rest he needs(even though he too was injured) But somehow it's all useless signings. We need investment in other areas doesn't mean the ones we reinforced in wasn't necessary. The only issue I have is changing goalkeepers every season.

I guess making fun of the club in the name of sarcasm because of a bad season caused by different reasons of which the coach's mistakes is one of them is just about criticising Arteta. All of us still dey here and next season go long shaa.
Agenda ni, Agumba ke.

ObaIgwe1:
I get you bro. But I doubt many here are dragging the club down. I have only seen people dragging Arteta and sometimes they also drag Kroenke. And you really can't blame them, after each and every disappointment, Arteta has to bear the brunt cos the buck stops at his desk.

I am one of the people who supported Arteta from the start and believed he should be given time to grow and implement the process. Has he improved the team? I will say Yes Tremendously. Did he make mistakes? Yes very many, including very costly ones. These including some of the bad signings and bad decisions made on the field. But then even highly experienced Managers make these same mistakes.

I honestly still couldn't shake off the feeling that Arsenal would have won the CL yesterday if only Arteta had done more, especially if he had made more effort on getting a good CF in January after Jesus' injury, but he thought Harvez would be injury free.

One thing is sure for all fans, we love the club 1st before any manager. Managers come and go but the club remains. At the end of last season, I thought we shouldn't gamble on bringing a new manager that might disrupt the team progress, but then Slot happened at Liverpool. It wouldn't have mattered to me if Arteta is removed now, but I know he is not going anywhere, the guy brought in lots of money for the owners last season.

So moving forward is to hope that Arteta has learned more from his mistakes and will only improve, the board will provide the fund to get the quality additions we need, and with luck not against us, we might bring in some trophies this season.

apt!!!!

The way the word delulu have been used here is actually funny to me, I remember using this same word some months back, abi years back and one of you guys almost wanted a physical fight with me.
The thing is, you guys think and believe some of us only wants to defend Arteta(well some might), but that's not true. I see things just a little differently from some of us here, Arteta isn't above criticism, but bringing pure hate into criticism isn't ideal. If he fucvks up, he suppose collect, call out his mistakes and question it but degrading a club you support because of the coach isn't right. I have gone through the pages and I respect one moniker here for how he talks about the team, you can see he isn't ok with Arteta but his criticism ends there and not dragging the club and team, but I can't say the same for you lots. Last last Arteta isn't leaving and will be here next season so why drag and kill on the matter, d disappointment was felt by everyone but the season is over and he isn't leaving. It's OK to vent about last season errors, and then look forward to the new season with optimism(even though it might be hard). Omor!!!.

mostob:
You're Arteta fan not Arsenal fan bro

Abi. No mind me bro, na to see my team win be my concern, wetin person label me no really concern me.

BTW wetin do Jodera and Blueraydick

Reports shows that Berta is in full agreement with Arteta regarding Sesko and only speaking with Gyokeres camp to keep options open. Make dem buy who dem wan buy, na to deliver result matters. Isak wasn't as prolific in Spain in his last season as he is in in epl now, but the talent and signs was always there as it is with Sesko. Gyokeres have proven to be a world class striker but his wages might affect us if they can't negotiate well. I don't remember us sweating about loosing isak to Newcastle cus we got jesus, but now isak have proven to be better at what he does than jesus and all of a sudden we are all complaining.

Pages don long since the last time I 👀 here.
Disappointing season no doubt, all of them fucck up. At this point if they should sack Arteta and bring in a good coach there's a possibility we will win a better trophy next season, because the team is already good and it's just to add important additions and change in tactics.
Arteta's unwillingness to trust players at the needed time, and repeating experiments during the course of an important season cost us. Let's not even talk about the indiscipline in the team because that one weak me, bunch of adults who knows the rules and how ut affects us and yet keep making the same stupid mistakes each match, the only time i heard Arteta punished someone for that was the case of Trossard(and na to carry bags and loads for training smh). The players not turning up when it mattered follow join. Yes injuries happened, but it could have been managed well if he trusted the squad depth.
Knowing that he won't be sacked, wetin we go do, if not to continue the lamentations and keep hoping next season will be better.(Next season Netflix team).

Roland17:
Werey don kukuma throw him players under the bus.

"I am very very angry, that was nowhere near the level needed to win the Premier league. Congrats to West Ham but a lot from our side we didn't get right. I never felt that we were at the standard and level that we needed".
Every other time the team fuccks up he praises them in the media even though we lost points and yesterday e pain am to talk truth in the open. And from his words, it wasn't just the player you know, himself is included. .....
Na seasons end I just dey wait for.

Roland17:
God, I can’t wait to read comments blaming MLS for his red card..

Let’s have it!

but.. but.. ......

iamoyindamola:
I won't give him the credit of the boys because he actually doesn't trust them until they proved him wrong. He was literally forced to integrate them into the team, we know this but we have defended him, when we lost chido was what led to the fast integration of these 2.
We have been there before he also sent saliba away because of a mistake(if not for the love saliba have we would have lost him because of arteta treatment), he sent the likes of patino, Azeez and dubbery away because of lack of trust because of a manager doesn't trust you, you are not needed
Let's be honest, Azeez is far better than sambi while dubbery is far better than maquinhos
Is he not better having academy players as squad players than buying some flops

As for mikano his deal can only be like that pepe, I am glad Chelsea took the hit because we won't recover as we are limited in spending

patino failed everyone who had faith in him including myself, I can never put him in the conversation. Azeez, we can see his level and I don't know if he would have leveled up in our setup but I don't miss him one bit. Dubbery, he made his choice, he was offered something good but chose to leave( e pain me shaa). Chido, mmhmmm... he thought he was ready but the truth is he didn't love the club enough to stay because for someone coming from u16, being promoted to u18 and u21 and appearance with the first team would have been enough for him. Don't forget he's a forward and we already have Jesus and Havertz ahead of him, so I don't understand how a teenager like that would want automatic place or something close to that for a team attempting to win the league. Which team and division does he play for United now?.
If Arteta didn't believe in Nwaneri would he have given him his debut at 15?, played him a couple of times in lower competitions?, he's integration was slow but I won't say it was because of chido that he was forced in because he even went for preseason with the team. Skelly had his debut against man city and first start in a ucl match, isn't that trust enough?. Like I said, he's the coach and knows better than us. Saliba wasn't ready for epl according to him and he sent the boy for another loan season which saliba himself have said was the turning point in his career, And it turned out good for everyone. Mudryk is a case study, Antony for example is balling now after being such a flop for United, maybe, just maybe Mudryk would have turned out good for us too. You forget our set up takes wingers to the edge and that favours him.

iamoyindamola:
Why not didn't he get a job at Bayern and they are bigger than arsenal
So what are we saying

🤔🙅🙆‍♂️

iamoyindamola:
Lol
You bringing moyes into it is not out of point

I guess your mention of Kompany made him think of something as low as that too. ✌️

Lush100:
Oga go and sack him na.

Or go and coach a team.

See u talking out of point

Calm down boss, no fight, no stress. Everybody can't be on the same line of thought. But truly you no suppose mention Everton matter, na lowest low to compare with their argument.

iamoyindamola:
Kompany that brought burney from relegation is who you are comparing to arteta
Make arteta take championship job first and survive na

Real fast question. If and only if the club fire Arteta, would you be comfortable and suggest Kompany as replacement 🤔

iamoyindamola:
Each time I remember mikano I always thank Chelsea for hijacking the deal because I am sure we won’t have recovered up till now
Now they are indirectly tagging mls and Ethan success to same arteta that was pushing our youngsters out of the club
When Odegaard was injured he refused to use Ethan, one of the reasons we are doing catch me if you can with lfc
Some of them even say Ethan is not ready, miracle no they tire Jesus 🤣🤣

what if, just what if we signed mudryk and he turned out good for us, I mean he was that good before and our bottling coach have been credited with bringing out the best in players.
Nwaneri and skelly have always been with the first team and he maintained that he didn't want to rush them. He fuccked up by not playing Nwaneri when Odegaard was out but that's what it it already. If you don't credit Arteta with both boys success who would you give the accolades?, the fan?. I think Arteta even trusted Skelly more than Nwaneri and that is probably because he is the coach and knows better than us who only see and hear what the media wants us to see and hear.

Roland17:
When Partey was benched for Merino at the start of the season, how did that go? Did he not get exposed? Isn’t that why he is strapped to the bench? If Merino was that good, Partey would be in Saudi by January! Again, you are helping me make points.

Merino is that good but we are out there chasing Zubimendi? If Partey leaves, would Merino bench Zubi? Without Partey and with Zubi can Merino break into the first team? If we don’t get Zubi, would you trust that position to Merino? I mean, this isn’t too hard na.

I no go lie, I dey on the same line of thought

toluxe0075:
We are facing PSV. Quarter finals looks feasible. Hopefully we won’t bottle it.

We will face either Real Madrid or Athletico at the quarters. Solid test that would be. I’ve always wanted us to face Real Madrid. It would have happened last season if we didn’t bottle Bayern match.

Be careful of what you wish for bro.

Guy!!!!!!

They were forced on him but they have been training with the senior team for over a year.
Watkins was identified earlier by Arteta but the management had their issues with him and didn't go all out and when they did go, they underpriced what Villa wanted. But somehow it's our mumu coach fault.
Make dem shaa win something this season (though I dey laugh on that shaa) make everybody calm down.