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scotweezy: How many iPhone X users are around the world compared to Android Users that use phones that still have those features you are trying to label archaic?
My friend you're just grasping at straws. You said I was consoling Myself because my device is missing those features, yet iPhone whose target market is the sophisticated and the wealthy don't put such features on their phones and people are still paying a fortune to get them. Who is consoling who
Please while we are at this, does anyone knows if the mi band 4 actually measures blood pressure (I don't mean heart rate) and if it doesn't, what smart watch will u suggest that actually has this feature and works fine
drjprince: apart from the camera what does pixel 2 have on the innocent mi 9t if I may ask please give us proof or facts inotherwords even in the camera department the mi9t with gcam stands a chance
Lame again. Somebody that values good photography above all else will easily go for the pixel.
In fact it is solely because of the camera that I'll get the pixel 4 later in the year .
scotweezy: So why did you buy the Mi9SE instead of Samsung S9? Size ,size. The mi 9 SE is supposed to be my second phone[/color]
You are only strengthening the major point from my last post here
Yes and it's still a valid point I agree with [color=#006600].
I dey wait for your proof!
Wait till Saturday[color=#000099][/color]
Once again, you're strengthening my point. Once again your points supports the SE here and it's significant.[color=#770077][/color]
This is you just over-reaching here. As for me and a whole lot of phone enthusiasts, we would rather have feature(s) even though they are rarely used than not have them at all. You never know when some features will come in handy. So, your irrelevant talk is just trying too hard to console yourself for buying a phone with less features.
Go tell that to iPhone X users[color=#000099][/color]
scotweezy: @godspeed Bros! you sha no wan gree say the time of your phone don pass
Whether you want to accept it or not OVERALL the K20/MI9T gives you better value for your money.
The only and I mean the only reasonable excuse a person should be buying Mi9SE over Mi9T today should be the smaller size.
Some might Nitpick and point to Infrared and slightly better camera sensor on paper, but I am yet to see a comparison that confirms Mi9SE produces better picture quality because of just that.
I know it's very sad to see your recently bought phone get relegated so quickly, na xo me sef feel wen Note 5 commot But my Note 4 still better am sha you can confirm from @Gptech
Lame, the time of my phone done pass too quickly. Between the k20 pro and Samsung s9 of last year I know which one I'll easily choose.
See before I chose the mi 9 se, I seriously considered buying the mi 8 of last year, in the end, it was the size of the mi 9 that prevailed so age has nothing to do with this
Bros the picture quality of the SE is confirmed better than the k20 series. You read an American even mention it in the same breathe with the pixel 3a. The 9 SE has better picture quality and I'll show u proof.
And of course the size is still a compelling reason to choose the 9 SE.
Features like radio, headphone Jack and the likes are so irrelevant in the tech world of today.
I just asked all my colleagues in the office now if they listen to radio on their phones and you need to see the look in their eyes, the question sounded so ridiculous to them.
Mckandre: but the fact remains that k20 packs a whole lot of punch than mi 9se. Ure comparing phones with small batteries to k20 like as if u dont remember ure in Nigeria,its a known fact those phones re premium and they try as much as possible to maintain the aesthetics by all means thereby sacrificing huge batteries to light weight form factor. And if ure to pay more attention u will notice that they compensate the small batteries with wireless nd fast charging features to make things convenient so u won't bother with the small batteries and those features alone adds to the cost and cost friendly is what k20 brothers re trying to achieve.
Do u know what actually brought about the notch display? its the race of achieving a high screen to body ratios that led OEM into creating notch, water drop nd punch holes and for u to say that full display isnt the future is simply myopic like u haven't been paying attention to mobile phone trend.
To say we re labouring to make the k20 better is just bizarre like u dont see the bigger picture here, we base our analogies on facts that re laid down on both devices but it seems yours Is rather taking a personal angle to justify that ur purchased Mi 9se will still be in vogue.
genius43: Hahahaha, you quietly shifted the bone of contention from the Mi 9 SE Vs the Mi 9T/K20 to flagships. Clap for yourself. You are terrible in arguments.
genius43: I laugh, you say Samsung don't use upto 4000mah batteries on their devices, then you are so last year. Only Apple is still lagging behind in that aspect and their have been alot of complaints about it.
The traditional 3.5mm headphone jack still produces better sound than wireless.
GSMARENA you say. I don't take a lot of comments on the Gsmarena comments section seriously.
Mckandre: whenever arguments re done here,we always argue with facts from researches that was extensively carried out. We don't just rush into argument with claims just to appease the moment,no! u ve to back ur statements with facts which i can't see u doing. In all the things u ve said here, u haven't actually said anything about the PROS Mi 9SE has over the k20 brothers but when it comes to CONs nd dealbreakers, i think the Mi 9 se has no contenders here cos it excelled in flying colors in that criteria. Pls When making comparisons,stay on context dont deviate from the subjects. Speaking of subjects,the comparison table u brought up doesnt seem ideal because the k20pro is on a different league on its own (but I'll use it since the k20 brothers basically has the same build). And again u seem to be having difficulties understanding gsmarena comparison table(don't fash, nobody is an island of knowledge) cos if u did u would ve spotted alot of dealbreakers from the Mi 9se side.
Mi 9se cons
Battery 3070mah against k20 4000mah(pls dont start with "battery doesnt matter only optimization" cliche, this aint different OEM, they re all products of Xioami running MIUI) u wont talkmuch on this if ure really a heavy user.
No 3.5mm jack Who doesn't need the raw audio quality from that 3.5mm jack?
No FM radio Its not always about the internet, sometimes u need to come down to basic nd get in touch with reality but u wont get those if u don't ve FM radio.
Slow fingerprint sensor Mi 9se has an older generation of the sensors.
Last gen Processor/GPU Sd712 against SD730 well, let me not laugh at that statement u made "apart from SOC" who says that? Haven't u heard of NEW means better,upgrade means better improvement,even the nano manufacturing process should tell u about power efficiency.
No Full screen display The world is going into this era. u wont like to ve an antique as a daily driver,would u? Going for k20 means better future proof
Mi 9se PROS
Ir blasters present Y I stand to be corrected
See, I'll respect the(unwritten ) rule of the thread and wait till Saturday before giving a robust response to u and others, but then I can resist the temptation to quickly quash all u wrote up there.
Battery: I already told u premium brands like Samsung and iPhone dont even hv up to 4000 mah on their flagships and they are still doing fine or is k20 pro better than them simply because of the battery.
Headphone Jack and fm radio in 2019? Like seriously? Features even iPhone have ditched for more than 5 yes. And like the SE does not hv an adaptor if u prefer earphones.
Yes I said apart from SOC. Really how much of it do u even think u use every day. And like a higher SOC does not come with a price.
Design going antique? How sure are u that the full screen will catch on .OEMs today are still using the punch hole even in newer models, remember not every device copied the iPhone's notch and their design still stood out.
You guys are just labouring to make the k20 better than the SE by force even on GSM arena, I hardly see anyone deride the SE cos of the K20.
In reality, what is the difference sef and one costs more than the other as at today
fantilopezzy: bro me clown lols lemme clear ur doubt google pixel 2 for instance don't hav the new imx586 sensro but still edges out most of the device with the new senor Secondly about the pop up camera mention any user facing any problem with the popup cam?
thirdly battery lols bro believe me if ur a heavy user u will keep ur mouth shut!! watch frankie tech battery drain test den come back and correct ur self ..the mi9 even hav a better battery backup than the se but when compared with k20 it really look like a mess
fourthly processor sd 730 performs as good as sd845 in day to day task bpth in gaming it fails short sd730 is general better both in gaming that's why it's an upgrade u goat!!!
fifthly when mi9se was released it was priced just like the mi9t around 110k upwards so i think the price of mi9t will drop but for 119k mi9t is a steal i repeat is a steal!!
Let's wait till evening, I tear down ur points one by one
genius43: The guy is just embarrassing himself. If you prefer a phone good don't say it is better than another because it is cheaper.
And he forgot that the Mi 9T/K20 with a better SOT and battery cost the same with the Mi 9 SE at launch. Both were priced at ¥1999 when they were launched in China
Embarrassed? Because of a phone I bought with my money? Dont let me start telling you how many Samsung flagships I've used in the past from s3 to note 8.
And ur claim that the price were the same at launch is a blatant lie you know yourself
genius43: The guy is just embarrassing himself. If you prefer a phone good don't say it is better than another because it is cheaper.
And he forgot that the Mi 9T/K20 with a better SOT and battery cost the same with the Mi 9 SE at launch. Both were priced at ¥1999 when they were launched in China
Embarrassed? Because of a phone I bought with my money? Dont let me start telling you how many Samsung flagships I've used in the past from s3 to note 8.
And ur that the price were the same at launch is a blatant lie you know yourself
drjprince: bro take a look at this stuff from the real angle this arguement is not even scheduled to exist,mi 9 se failed the battery backup is poor, and that kind of not it,if I am saying this wrongly correct me,the mi 9 se falls behind the radar when it comes face off with redmi k20 they are not match,not because k20 is a newer device,please dont misunderstand me,it was not just the device for the people
oya just take a look at the supposed mi A3 xiaomi how does it compete with the redmi note 7 pro?
My friend, mi 9 did not fail in any aspect including your much maligned battery. The battery lasts for more than a day and some premium brands like Samsung have similar specs even on their flagships
In terms of sale,somebody posted it here sometime ago, the mi 9 se was the third best selling xiaomi phone of 2019 behind remi 7 and mi 9. .it moved to the fifth when the k20 series came along and that is to be expected because they are newer devices.
If u truly believe the mi 9 se failed, pls Google it up from any source, known for mediocre, and paste ur result here for all to see
fantilopezzy: baba mi9t is better in almost every aspect 1st screen with notchless design it's a go go for 90% users better camera than mi9se both back and front watch YouTube for better explanation battery... no even go there oo far better... processor bro sd730 is better!! it's plays games better load app faster even pubg u cn push it to the maximum and still enjoy gameplay buh the sd712 no way and has all the 4g band in Nigeria ..... mi9se is cheaper cus it fail short the mi9t the price difference of 13k is even good in other market mi9t is Priced really high we Nigerians get luck ooo i no even understand again
fantilopezzy: baba mi9t is better in almost every aspect 1st screen with notchless design it's a go go for 90% users better camera than mi9se both back and front watch YouTube for better explanation battery... no even go there oo far better... processor bro sd730 is better!! it's plays games better load app faster even pubg u cn push it to the maximum and still enjoy gameplay buh the sd712 no way and has all the 4g band in Nigeria ..... mi9se is cheaper cus it fail short the mi9t the price difference of 13k is even good in other market mi9t is Priced really high we Nigerians get luck ooo i no even understand again
Now let me take ya'll on on this since y'all want this debate so badly.
The mi 9 SE is better than the k20. Take it.
The only area ya'll can confidently point to where the k20 trumps is the battery nothing else.
As for the battery, it powers the device for more than 24 hrs and charges fast so that is a non issue.
Even some Samsung flagships come with a similar 3070mah battery and nobody is complaining. Bigger does not always mean better.
Now to the SOC, this is the most laughable part of ur arguments. Sd 712 vs ad 730. Be honest with yourselves, if u handle the two phones without having a prior knowledge of the specs, will u be able to tell which has a superior chip. Hello no! You guys attach too much importance to this SOC even though a lot of you can never tell the difference in 2 devices without been told.
Like the writer said, I was also using an sd625 before, Samsung c7 pro ,and it was able to handle everything I threw at it effortlessly including HD games. No heating, no lagging, so why should I be bothered about a 712 vs 730 SOC
And coming to camera performance, stop consoling yourselves, the SE trumps the k20 hands down. Sony imx 586 vs Sony imx 582.
I know most of u search YouTube with keywords that favors ur position that's why u keep seeing reviews that say the k20 camera is better. A random Google search will tell you which is better in the camera dept btw the 2 phones and ues its the SE.
Most of u are just In the euphoria of a newly launched device that's why u are so bias with this ur position.
And coming to the pop up camera that gazes tall, that is the exact reason I don't even fancy the k20. No 1 the technology is relatively new and has not been rigorously tested No 2, real phone enthusiasts will tell u they are scared of phones with moving parts
And u have the cowardice to include display? You must be a clown, you just read an American comparing it with the Google pixel and rating it above Huawei
Below is a comparison of the mi 9 SE with even the k20 pro, apart from the SOC, tell me what the deal breaker is