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Who is God and who is the creator? The moment you let go of your Bible, only then will you be able to see.

rekinomtla:
And they were completely wrong.

Exactly.

rekinomtla:
Nah, I think his religion will die with him and remain as insignificant as it is now.

They said the same to Christianity

blackpanthar:
when you die E GO SHOCK YOU.

Are you scared of death? The same FEAR we are talking about

rekinomtla:
You should asked otem for some advice here, he made up his religion right here on nairaland. He literally claims to know a dead egyptian god named atum, apparently they're friends as of now

He is doing amazingly already. He has lots of followers here on NL. Give him a few hundred years and you will be amazed. Sadly, you won't be alive then.

Meti99:
Bros, will you please start a religion with this your crap?
I'll follow you when you have 1,000 followers

The religion you belong to, was created by men like I, to control men like you. Don't you get the gist? Do I need to spoon feed you?

People are always craving to believe in something bigger than them, and if you must control and exercise power, you must learn to create a cult-like fellowship. Trust me, this is very easy but requires persistence and TIME.

Talking about time, you will never be alive to see your new-found religion become a tool of mass delusion. Hundreds of years after your death, people will fight and kill themselves for something you created.

If you are serious about creating your own religion, don't do this alone. Here is a simple way you can lay the foundation of a new religion.

1. CREATE AN ATTENTION

First, attract attention. This you should do not through actions, which are too clear and readable, but through words, which are hazy and deceptive. Your initial speeches, conversations, and interviews must include:

* The promise of something great and transformative.
* The other a total vagueness.

2. COPY FROM OTHER RELIGION

* Find a way both elevating and comforting.
*Create rituals for your followers.
*Organize them into a hierarchy, ranking them in grades of sanctity, and giving them names and titles that resound with religious overtones
*Ask them for sacrifices that will fill your coffers and increase your power.
*To emphasize your gathering's religious nature, talk and act like a prophet:

Christianity, for example, is the corrupt version of Paganism. Islam took from Christianity and so on. So, never be afraid to copy.

3. SET UP AN US-VERSE THEM DYNAMIC

Your religion is now large and thriving, a magnet attracting more and more particles. To keep your followers united, you must now do what all religions and belief systems have done: Create an us-versus-them dynamic.

· Make sure your followers believe they are part of an exclusive club, unified by a bond of common goals.· Manufacture the notion of a devious enemy out to ruin you.

There is a force of nonbelievers that will do anything to stop you.· If you have no enemies, invent one. Given a straw man to react against, your followers will tighten and cohere.

You must invent a devil, or your religion will be one without a foundation.

4. FEAR AND REWARD

Like every religion, they are created using the carrot and stick technique. Using extreme fear and reward to keep followers caged like a sheep. This is the main ingredient and if it is missing, your religion will never last.

Many world religions used a place of eternal suffering as it's a tool of fear, using the message of love as a decor; and heaven as a reward. You can use either fear or reward. Perhaps both! None should be missing.

5. BE PREPARED FOR THE UNBELIEVERS

Those who won't believe in your religion will definitely exist. Your job is not to convince them, but to build a mechanism in check. Which will ensure that these unbelievers don't take your sheep astray with their logic


"Only a fool says there is no God"

"At the last day, many false prophets shall rise"

A recent example of creating this quasi-religion cult-like fellowship is the case of MMM. The system was designed in a way that followers saw the government and the bank as enemies, with an aim to destroy the financial system and change the world.

The extreme fake reward of robbing Peter to pay Paul served as motivation. But like all pyramid schemes, there is always a peak.

Guess what, religion has no peak. Unless perhaps logic sets in. Even in that, the power of what you have created should be able to keep followers away from logic. They should be able to suspend their intelligence when dealing with this system which you have created.

When followers start indoctrinating their children, be rest assured that this religion might never fall again. It won't be easy for an indoctrinated child to kick against the religion he or she was brought up in. Certainly, he will key into the delusion.

Don't worry about writing a holy book. Passionate and smart followers will claim to receive from a divine source and pen down their delusion. They are smart entrepreneurs and politicians who have seen an opportunity to exploit using your system. They could do this for money or power. But be ready to keep pieces here and there for their use.

Go ahead and create a religion. You can be God, just like I. #winks

Maximus69:
Wow!

I never knew atheists also believes animals have the sense to think and pray to G O D!

You must be a troll

After cracking the phone and getting $1M, be ready for immediately employment too.. They are never letting you go.. Tech is the future!

Defenderalert:
Ask Ubunja he is the poohole driller. . Tadpole brain. I get your time.

You are gay AF lol. I pray that one day, you have the boldness to crawl out of your shell and embrace your gay nature. Till then, I wish you lots of rainbows

[quote author= post=81036499]The first 3 comments and many comments after them actually posted the same thing!
That tells you how the mind of an average Nigeria youth work.
You don't need any scientist to carry out any research about how an average Nigerian youth think anymore.

Una village people no dey better person life?!
Dem no dey helep person for their life?!
Na so dem wicked reach?
What a Crude and archaic mentality!
Orisirisi something.....[/quote]The worse part is; most of them are graduates. I really weep for my dear country.

Defenderalert:
Am.i your father? How can i be gay?

How can you be gay? You have already made that known. So tell me.. I won't judge you I promise

Defenderalert:
Ubunja banned my brother for 4 months on NairaLand for spilling that he is a gay broke old sicko who means no good for no one. That was tantamount to stabbing him at first sight. Ubunja is a 60something year Old Yoruba troll living a fully frustrated life.

Those of us who know the fool behind that moniker are cooking up a shocker for him. I am anti gay you exposed nothing.

The one to be fully exposed is your anus leaking gay boss Metussellah Ubunja. Let him keep it up.

He is in for the greatest shock he never imagined in all his years of tormenting our girls. The old owl with a crooked nose seated on a droopy falling face of bitterness hides behind his system with blood dripping from his evil beaks.

Mehn.. You are really bothered.. You really typed that epistle for me? The more you keep shouting you are anti-gay, the more obvious your sexuality get known. My nigga, you are gay

Defenderalert:
That you are jobless?

Not really. Pained because breeze don blow your ass open..

Defenderalert:
Stop trolling. Jobless.

You are still pained

Defenderalert:
Exposed for my hate for you MOFO broke gays. Who cant find pvssies and straff shit holes like demons.

Stop crying sweetie.. It is well

Defenderalert:
When craze don enter another level. Closeted gay like your forefathers, sons and grandsons. If i dash you slap from here that your leaking brain go reset. Frustrated Gay asses. You dey find partner? Ubunja is always available. No pvssy in sight

This one pain am

My brother, stop trying too hard.. Just go and lick your sores. You have been exposed Ass fucker

Defenderalert:
I am glad I am no gay kid. Go stitch your leaking anus.

Everything about your comments is screaming GAY. I'm not surprised, cause majority of homophobes have been known to be closeted gays.

Embrace the rainbow community bro, no shame in hiding

Satanists will actually disagree with this. How many satanic books have you read? What do you really know about satanism? They are organized religion, just like yours. They have been brainwashed, just as you have been brainwashed from infancy.

But human sacrifices? I have self-acclaimed Satanists in my contacts and they have heavily denied such practices. In fact, it is a taboo.

But wait! Why not take a little interest and hear from the other side of the story.? Satan might actually be the nice guy lol.

Visit www.joyofsatan.com and see for yourself.

However, whether Satanism or Christianity, they are both living in one hell of delusion. None of these mystical beings exist.

But if you delve into human sacrifice, Yahweh is the chief of them all. Remember, he created Satan. He cant act out of nature. Whoever you envision him to be is what Yahweh is. God encoded it into his DNA lol...

If human sacrifices don't entice Yahweh, he will never tempt Abraham with it.

If Yahweh is allergic to human sacrifice, Jesus won't have to shade his blood on the cross and die. If your God isn't a blood tasty Buffon, he won't harden the heart of pharaoh and kill the firstborn of all Egyptian just to prove a lame point.

Out of all the gods in history, Yahweh ranks number 1 and as the most vicious blood tasty God ever. Animals aren't even exempted from this inordinate hunger for blood.

The Israelites can kill over 700 cattle at a spot, just for Yahweh to enjoy. According to your Bible, the altar of God is usually flooded with the blood of these innocent animals.. What a God!

Abeg, you need to open your eyes on and see what you have been scammed big time lol.

Lemme end by saying, none of these beings exist. They are just man-made.

Anas09:
Does God.know you? Is your name written in the book of life?
Take 100 years and add to how long you ve lived already, it's flitting compared to eternity. You will die very soon and If you die and can't access the presence of Jesus, your eyes will be clear.

All I can deduce from this comment is FEAR.

Threatening me with death and hell goes further to prove the points I've made. You did great.

UceeGod:
You believe there's no God in your mind, true. But He exists in your heart, that's why you bother yourself so much about God, Satan and hell. That's why you still read the Bible even though you understand it upside-down.
My friend, I have nothing to show you why God exists because your breath alone is a proof. You either agree with your conscience or silent it, it's up to you.

The flying spaghetti monster also exists. Look inside you. Look within.. You know this is true. You are alive is proof that FSM exists. You need to reach out and be saved

Makschinchin:
@boldened: It is only those who have skeletons in their cupboards that will see that as a threat and begin to develop fear.. If you live right here on earth, why should you fear the eternal damnation that comes to evil doers??

Those are the words of Jesus and it stands.. If you are scared of hell, then stop purposely living a sinful life and ask Him for mercy.

Some want to be wicked to others but don't want same wickedness done to them. Some are ready to kill, steal and covet people's properties but don't want to pay for their crimes. Haba, it doesn't work that way!! If there's no punishment for sin, imagine what the human race would have turned into??

Don't you think if we begin to live a righteous and godly life here on earth, things will definitely work out for our good?

That's all I have to tell you and your kind.

I do not believe in the existence of your fairy daddy, talk more of believing in a mystical place called hell. You know why? You and your lots are yet to provide substantial evidence to that.

So, I can not fear what does not exist.

You talked about morality - doing good to others. I don't need a holy book to tell me that. In fact, your holy book cannot measure up as a tool to measure morality based on some ridiculous things it supports, like slavery, genocide. Even infants aren't exempted from his wrath according to your Bible.

If there be a God, I'm that God

UceeGod:
Do you say He doesn't exist? But that won't make Him seize to exist, even in your conscience. If you won't allow the Spirit who inspired the writers of the Bible to inspire you to understand, that's a complete waste of time. Your own intelligence has a finite perspective. My own intelligence has an eternal perspective - that's a huge difference.

You want to delve into whether he exists or not? Please don't dabble in that aspect cause you will end up shooting yourself.

If you say he exists? What proof do you have of his existence? Something that doesn't exist can't cease to exist until proven that he really exist.

Are you getting me?

If you can't bring up something tangible about the existence of your God, why then do you find the belief in Zeus, Thor, Buddha laughable?

UceeGod:
Well, I can't really blame you for your lack of understanding because the majority of those who profess to be Christians still take their faith as a religion - fear of God's judgement.

But I'm sure you read what I posted up there about GENUINE CHRISTIANITY. A real Christian doesn't serve God or follow Christ out of fear of His judgement but out of full realization of His infinite Love. A real Christian will not follow Christ just to avoid eternal punishment but to fulfill God's purpose for creating him/her on earth - that's only when he/she will be truly and fully satisfied.

If you continue reading the Bible without His inspiration, you'll sure continue to misunderstand and misinterprete the Bible. That was how I used to read & study the Bible because I was born in a core Christian religious home. But when I stopped going to church and started studying the Bible prayerfully, then I started seeing the real side of God - LOVE.

As for hell, I already told you God didn't create hell for humans. You can only choose to accompany the devil to hell, IT'S YOUR CHOICE.

You still don't get it.. I would advice you read the Bible again but this time, don't suspend your intelligence. You folks are fond of seeing even the evils in the Bible as right. That is what brainwash and indoctrination does. You can never see the loopholes, you try as much as you can to overlook them and retain your belief.

You said God never created hell for humans, but for the devil and his demons? Do you mean to tell me God lacks the power to eliminate his creation, the devil?

Why send him to hell? Why allow him to even roam the earth where his children dwells?

Why did God create Lucifer in the first place even after knowing the havoc he will cause? After all, he is all knowing..

Why will God create you, even after knowing that you will end up on hell? He is all knowing remember? He already know those going to heaven and hell even before they were born..

Before the creation of a man, He knows that this creation will fail. He knows that billions will Go to hell, going by the Bible... He knew!!

Keep reading your Bible and getting dumber. Indoctrination is a strong thing.

Good news is; he doesn't exist..

UceeGod:
Your writeup shows absolute lack of understanding of the Christian faith. Genuine Christianity is based on LOVE not threats. The LORD God of the Bible is the Creator of all things and He has the ultimate right over His creations but He doesn't force humans to submission. On the contrary, the devil, the common enemy of all humans uses religion to keep humans in darkness (separation from God) with force.

As a human, you choose to embrace the love of God in Christ or choose to join the devil in rebellion against God - that of course leads to eternal damnation in hell prepared solely for the devil.

If you know what threat or blackmail is, you won't make this shallow comment.

Of course when it comes to the aspect of your Bible that makes men cringe, you and your lots fall back to understanding of the scripture or the faith..

I'm surprised you didn't ask me to call upon the holy spirit for understanding lol.

You said he doesn't force people?

If I tell you, love me or you die by hanging. Isn't that a choice? Am I forcing you? Don't allow those years of indoctrination blind you, open your eyes

How can a God create hell, ask you to love him or suffer eternity by his own very creation? Mehn.. That is the real definition of using fear to control.

Makschinchin:
From your analysis, it's obvious you are referring to the Christian religion, so I'll answer as one.

For the records, I'm a Christian and born again (by the grace of God).

From what you wrote up there, honestly, I can categorically tell you that any Christian who lives in fear is not a true Christian after all.. Atheists often use this line of hell to buttress their points.. I am not a Christian today because I'm afraid of going to hell, hell No!! There's no love in fear sir. Listen to what the Bible says about fear in 1John.4.18 - There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love. As a Christian, the only fear I have is a reverential fear for God and not a tormenting fear..

In a world like this, it is no doubt that you will reap what you sow.. If you do good, you'll reap good in return and if you sow bad, you will reap same in return.. This is true for everyone even if you take religious beliefs from this. As a true Christian, you are expected to live a godly life and eschew all appearances of evil.

So many today want to serve God and still indulge in some sins, which isn't God's plan for us.. So many are not ready to give their lives entirely to Christ.. The Bible is against sin of any form but then, many cannot resist the temptation to indulge in sin.. So instead of following God's ways and living a righteous life, they rather opt for the "God does not exist" thing so they can willfully indulge in whatever comes their minds..

It is only those that have cockroaches in their cupboards, those that still want to indulge in their secret sins, that are afraid of Hell. Those who claim to be atheists can attest to this..

True Christians don't fear hell

You've picked some aspects of your holy Bible that appeals to you.

Lemme do mine. Please don't skip a line, read to the very end.

John 3:3

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Mathew 25:46
These, then, will be sent off to eternal punishment, but the righteous will go to eternal life.”

Mathew 1:50

And throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


Mathew 25:41

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

There are lots of horrendous passages that I cant dig up now..

*****

The ascension of Saints into heaven, and the damnation of the evil ones into eternal lake of fire is the main message which thy religion carry and hold firmly.

It's a threat - a blackmail!

Before you i lay two paths, love me and be saved. Reject me and be casted to eternal suffering.

Where is love therein?

Isn't that a blackmail? Is that not a threat?

It's like saying, give me your car and live. Refuse and i shot you this gun. Or maybe another instrument of fear could he used by the robber anyway.. The fact remains, fear has to be used for control to be possible.

In the game of power, you lay two options and make the less desirable option very hard to pick.

Any love that comes with a condition is not love. Love me and be saved, if you don't you die.

Worship me and be saved, if you don't you die..

Work out your salvation with trembling..

Let he that thinks he stands take hid less he fall..

Parables where also used to intensify that fear. Like the parable of the rich fool and so many others.

Read your holy book and see FEAR written on almost every line.

There is no love in fear! Look within, why do you believe in God? You might find your brain spinning a bit.. That's cause your only reason is because of the cons..

Religion was created using the carrot and stick technique. I wish you can know beyond that tool of control you call Bible.

Vulcanheph:
True ......there was This movie i watched (I think it's Robin Hood) where a priest said the words " Fear is the greatest weapon in God's Arsenal" I couldn't help but realise how true it is.

When man overcomes FEAR, only then can he see.

nonen:
Not all religions are based on fear: ask Jehovah’s Witnesses

Fear of hell is merely one of the numerous tools of fear.

Anas09:
Every Criminal is afraid of Jail, that's why every sinner is afraid of Hell.

@Op, it doesn't matter what you say, if you don't repent And die in your sins, you'd go to God's Jail, Hellfire.

But I'm not afraid of hell. Does that make me a saint? Think about it!