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naptu2:
Here is an example of a person that does not know what BASA is.

Skeyskey:
Brazil found Air peace worthy and granted them license. What's the fuss about Tinubu here?

RollinTNDA:
When I knew Democracy is Scam

When Pontus Pilate did election

And plenty jews voted Barnabas the criminal against Jesus Christ

Democracy means the highest number of people are right and must be obeyed.

It doesn't matter if they are clueless or tribalistic or have huge bias against you. Democracy says they are right. Just because they are large in number.

Politicians understand this loophole and they are milking it heavily over here

TheGoodJoe:
Even Messi had to sacrifice lots of flair to fit in. Players like Zlatan were still caught up in individual accolades but the system changed because with the rise of tactical defending, the only way to success was united team play.

TheGoodJoe:
Unfortunately there is no room for artist in modern day football.

The art lies in teamwork and not individuals.

Mujtahida:
That's why the game is boring. It's communism and communism always kills individuality, creativity and beauty.

Bumzz00:
Hi Everyone,

I need advise from gurus and well experienced people please.

I currently work in a local NHS with an annual income of £29907 before tax, due to increase to £33000 before tax in few months. I currently do not spend a penny on transportation with free staff bus available to and fro work and i enjoy as much flexibility as i wish to have with a daily commute of about 30 mins to and fro. I save quite a good amount monthly and spend even more less on feeding and housing cost about £700-£800 monthly.

I recently got a job offer in central London with a salary of £42000 before tax (a more senior but similar role as my current). By my rough calculation transportation monthly will cost me roughly £607.42 monthly excluding feeling and other misllc and daily commute of about 3hrs to and fro

Now i am confused if i should take the offer or not. Saying Local or commuting to the city.

jedisco:
Hehe... so much ado. It'd be alright in the end
Labour dropped the ball on this and it wasn't difficult to predict. They believed their electoral narrative. The opposition speaks against anything the ruling party does- the ultimate downside of tribal politics . However, they should have a clear-headed team working on policy.

It's quite clear to anyone who has seen immigration from both ends that the tide would only continue (and get larger) if there was no deterrent. They could have piloried the conservatives but still used the Rwanda scheme while creating safe means to apply.
With the cost if living crises, it's virtually impossible to convince anyone to accept tax rises when they feel those coming via boats are given a free pass.

The next quagmire awaiting them is their inability to raise government revenue while also rapidly cutting legal migration (and likely growth). Ultimately, Rachel would break some of her pledges.

All said, in a system like the UK, I'd much rather Farage as PM than be influencing policy on the sidelines.

Kukutente23:
20k cant afford decent living then just as 210k can't now
Meanwhile, have you reached out to the fish farm to find out how much the manager is earning now? I can bet it's not anywhere near 200k sef

Kukutente23:
Petrol is the single biggest driver of cost inflation in Nigeria as we have seen from fuel subsidy removal. So petrol goes a long way to determine cost of living. That dude is just being ignorant.
You're the one pursuing agenda here by looking to delegitimise OBJ to cover up the inadequacies of your tin god

004gist:
Just look at what u are typing.

In 2010 just 2010. 10k can buy a bag of rice.

A sales girl earning 15k or 10k can get it.

Stop supporting this failure

Kukutente23:
I already told you you're using outdated stats. The services sector which banking and telecoms is a part of is the largest contributor to Nigeria's GDP. That of agric is old story. It's obvious you don't travel a lot. If you do, you'll know that trading employs the largest number of Nigerians not agriculture. People are now engaged in groceries shops and buying and selling even up to Mallam's from the north. Almost every corner and street has shops in Nigeria today.

I was not a worker in 2008. I was a university student. I've shown you and the other guy with facts that someone earning 20k was better off than someone earning 210k today. Even electricity bill alone in today's Nigeria is totally crazy. You mentioned rent. How much was a single room in 2008 in Lagos compared to today?

Kukutente23:
That's a frivolous exercise
The facts have been laid bare so you can do with it whatever pleases you

004gist:
Go and take the same bank job now and see if u can be better off.

All i see is either u are unemployed or doing menial jobs... I could remember sales girls then on 10k to 15k salary could buy bag of rice then today those things we saw as nothing is now far from reach

Kukutente23:
You sef look at what you're quoting. So you mean from 1999 to 2025, more federal universitieshave been founded than before? 36 universities have been formed by FG since 1999? You really think so?

Kukutente23:
You don't know me. So don't hide under calling me a kid. Let's stick to the fact. 20k in 2008 was about 300% of the minimum wage then. If we extrapolate it to today, that should be around 210k for the 70k minimum wage. Now I'm asking you how many people are earning 210k today as farm manager in Nigeria. Besides as at the exchange rate of N85 to a dollar then, 20k you're earning will be $235. As at today, 210k which is the direct equivalent in wage terms is $140. So are you richer or poorer than the equivalent earner today? Answer that yourself! I won't even go into rent issues. That's a totally dead end.

Telecoms and banking are part of the services sector of the economy. Comparing them directly with agriculture which is a sector on its own shows you don't even understand what is being said here. Under Agric, we have livestock, crop, agric processing etc.
More importantly, agriculture largely exist in the informal sector of the economy while telecoms and banking are part of the organised private sector which is what I'm referring to. Those two are easily the largest employer of labour in the organised sector.
That said, if we're to go to the informal sector, I believe that claim that Agric is the largest employer is outdated. Most Nigerians today are into trading. From petty trading to larger shops and outlets. Trading is the largest employer of llabour in today's Nigeria not agriculture

Obaaderemi2:
The same way people are complaining now was the same way they complained then

OneCandleAway:
Anyways, life happens.
I hope you're in a better place now.
Though back then, there was limited opportunities for growth unlike now people have access to the Internet which is a huge platform to learn and generate wealth if you are focused.

OneCandleAway:
Because if you're from a poor background, you know you need to work harder in school if you don't have connection. If you're from a privileged background it's only training you know you're doing at a fish farm to eventually set up your own business. And you'll list your time there as a training not as a setback.

I can bet you didn't finish with 2.1

004gist:
Then in 2001 with ur 20k u can buy 4 bags of rice today 4 bags of rice is getting to 300 to 400k

With 20k in 2001 or 2003 you can buy 800 to 900 litres of fuel today you can get only 23 litres of fuel.



Nigeria was way better then than now. The fact u don't have it then means u were unemployed or under employed then.

In 2005 if u are working in the banking sector then u will be comfortable. If u are a lecturer earning 150k as a family then u are comfortable and more than ok.
But today any earning 300k is like a poor man.

What i mean is that today the middle income earners have been wiped off.

Nigerian per capital income was placed around 1800 then. Today is less than 800.

Kukutente23:
Bye-pass? That's what you're comparing to a full stretch of 120km road?
Even Ibadan-Ilesha was constructed by the military under Abacha. Who is talking about state universities? We're talking federal here! Most federal universities were created by the military including polytechnics. Take it to the bank

OneCandleAway:
That you were employed as a fish farm manager is your fault. What grade did you finish with.

Kukutente23:
So your new excuse is that telecoms and banking do not employ millions directly? What a joke!! Sounds more like bad belle. Telecoms and banking are easily the two biggest employers of labour in the private sector. Every part of Nigeria you go to, you're sure to see a banking and/or telecoms worker even in less developed states. Name one sector with such spread in the private sector.
You were earning 20k in 2007/08 and you said you weren't earning well? 20k then was like x3 of the minimum wage. Do you know that there are people that earn 50k today, which is even below minimum wage? Some even earn less than that as graduate teachers! How can 20k not feed only you in a whole month in a country where the minimum wage then was 7500? What are you eating? One cow per day? Nigerians were far richer then. Even you were far richer then. I can bet a manager of that fame farm today will earn in the region 100-150k which is just x2 of today's minimum wage or less. So compared to him, were you richer or poorer then?

Kukutente23:
This is a funny question to ask. How many people did banks and telecoms employ? Really? You mean they stopped employing after OBj left office? Do you know how many service providers and contractors have been blessed grim the two sectors?
It's even funny to hear people who defend fuel price increase from 200-1000 claim that people groaned under N20 increase in fuel price which was usually met with stiff resistance from labour. Obj's time was better. My mother was a teacher then. After Obj increase minimum wage, she changed our interior decor and even started a side business. How many civil servants can even afford rent today after minium wage increase not to talk of starting a side business? Are you guys not telling people to go and farm after closing from work?

Kukutente23:
Lagos-Ibadan expressway nko? The Abuja-Kaduna-Kano road? NITEL, NNPCL and the refineries? Nigeria Airways? FESTAC? Which industrial estate was not done by military? List them. The roads in the north nko? Most of the public universities we have today started under the military. The civilian administration built only 3 from 1960-1966. The rest were all under the military same with the polytechnic. Only a neophyte of Nigerian history will say the Nigerian military did not develop Nigeria's infrastructure

Joebie:
i no get liver especially seeing some players in that team that is in thier nature to not give 100%. I just hope Boniface and a few others don't make that final cut. They are a distraction.

Modified
Wishing Osimhen was the captain of that team. we don't any thing short of his energy resonating in the team.

004gist:
Nigeria was far richer under obasanjo.
If u earn 20k then you can afford basic things .eat well.

If u earn 150 then u are classified as middle income.