Viruses: When they say the immigrants must not be in debt to qualify, hope they are only referring to mortgage and car loan debt, not credit card or business debt.
elyte89: We need new ideas in dt midfield..we can’t keep recycling dis our usual 5midfielders since 2018 up till now and expect a miracle …. Dey re not good enough .i can tell u for a free dt we won’t qualify for 2030 World Cup if we keep parading dis set of average midfielders dt cant create and transit d ball well
na this our midfielders make the likes of Zimbabwe and DRC Congo look like Brazil for our eyes
semid4lyfe: I did not absolve the NFF of blame but your arguement still leans too heavily on the NFF as if they tied the players legs on the pitch.
Also, you're rewriting history. Jose Peseiro was employed on a 70k USD/month contract but after some mixed results and difficulty paying his salary, the NFF offered him a reduced 50k USD salary to stay on and take the team to the AFCON which he accepted.
He refused to renew the 50K USD/month contract when it expired at the end of AFCON, and demanded an increased salary to stay on as coach stating he had offers from other places.
After failing to reach an agreement with the NFF, JP announced his departure and the NFF moved on to appoint his deputy Finidi George as the substantive coach which I hailed and supported at that time because Finidi had the highest coaching badge, and some experience working in Europe, deputizing JP and coaching in the NPFL.
Your assertion that lots of Nigerians wanted JP gone after the AFCON is not entirely true. Reactions to JP continuing as coach was mixed. I wanted him to continue because he showed his tactical acumen and flexibility after the qualifiers and first AFCON game by deployed a 3-5-1-1 formation that fixed our goals leaking issue, and got us to the FINAL. I mean, from 4-3-3, JP switched to a 3-5-1-1 that made us defensively disciplined, solid and dispatched teams playing some prime catenaccio ball akin to Italy of 2006 world cup.
I also think you overestimate the Super Eagles brand with your quality of coaches statement, and we have to be realistic with the kinda coaches we can appoint.. There's no way we can attract first class coaches like Ancelotti, Guardiola. Mourinho and the likes. They're way above our league. Even the first class Africans/African experienced coaches like Pitso Motsimane, Hugo Broos, Herve Rennard are above our league. I think the right profile of coaches for the Super Eagles are young African, European, South American coaches who are within the age bracket of 40-55. and are eager to make a name for themselves. They also are moderate with their salary expectations. Think coaches like Pedro Goncalves, Djamel Belmadi, Aliou Cisse etc So by my assessment, Eric Chelle is a perfect fit for the job.
As for Finidi, with the benefit of hindsight, I agree he wasn’t ready. But even if Pep Guardiola was coach, the same players that struggled to beat Lesotho would still be the same players. National team coaches don’t perform magic. They work with what is available.
This NFF is the biggest culprit angle ignores the biggest elephant in the room, the players, who did not perform at the level required. You mentioned those early qualifiers. Exactly!. That is where we lost the plot. Even with all the NFF wahala, you don’t drop points at home to Lesotho. You don’t lose against Benin on a neutral ground. That one is not bonus issue or NFF delay. That’s players lacking hunger and performing poorly.
NFF didn't ask Ndidi to play the ball wide one-on-one with the Zimbabwe goalie in Uyo. NFF didn't instruct Troost Ekong not to tackle the Zimbabwean player that scored the 89th minute equalizer against us in Uyo. NFF didn't ask Troost Ekong to score an own goal from a non-threatening square ball in SA. NFF didn't ask Ndidi to get in the way of Chukwueze to possibly score our second goal against DR Congo. NFF didn't ask Ndidi not to clear the ball that led to DR Congo's equalizer. NFF didn't ask Bassey, Simon and Ajayi to play poor penalties. I could go on and on.
NFF has blame. Nobody is arguing that. Their administrative ineptitude is embarrassing. But to pin everything on them while giving the players and coaches a lighter share of the blame is inaccurate
NFF failed in organization (10%). Coaches failed in tactics (20%) Players failed in mentality and execution (70%).
Again, all the laurels we have won in football have been in spite of the NFF. If the players had the spine. mentality, and fortitude, the Super Eagles would have qualified in spite of the NFF.
I rest my fingers.
Well articulated especially @ the bolded. The players cost us this wcq series and the playoffs. All these blames on the nff and coach are just diversions and excuses for horrible performances from the players.
If we want the entire nff board to go then some players must follow them too.
ThunderFireAgba: Oga my point is this: If he can't Man up and face the battle when the Country and His fellow players needed him most, He should STOP forming overlord in that team. No body send am message. After all during the days of Yekini he wasn't this overhyped. Still maintained a level of decency not feeling like a god among men whenever they are in the field of play. This kind of attitude talking down on your fellow players, brushing them aside birth bad omen amongst them as you & I know something DRAMATIC happened inside that Dressing room during the 2nd half of the game. Moreover, you need to accept the fact that your "Demigod" fizzles out when faced with strong opponents with a strong defensive line up. We saw it against: Napoli vs Inter-milan. -Napoli vs Liverpool. -Galatasaray vs Liverpool -Nigeria vs Ivory Coast You can say whatever you like but I'm being objective. Being able to see a fault and point it out will save you a lot of stress in your doings.
Oya, tell us what happened since you know. If you can't, then your point is baseless. All you're saying about fizzling out against strong defensive set up is petty, its the job of any defence to stop any striker no matter how good he is but if someone is your highest scorer in the wcq series, highest scorer in the champs league, highest scorer in previous leagues across different countries and you say he fizzels out against stronger defences, omo you're not making sense and saying he's not manning up is the highest level of insult for a player who risk injuries for the national team when others simply avoid putting in their whole body in the game.
It's okay to dislike a player, but to wash down his importance because he could not score or finish up an appearance in a single match is mischievous. No striker scores in every match he appears in. Please stop this pettiness, you're not the only one angry with the loss to Congo!
Meanwhile, please tell us what happened in the dressing room before the 2nd half. I'd like to know and am waiting.
QueenJazz: I'm not sure why most people on this thread hate Sunday Oliseh. He's intelligent, rational and easily one of the more likeable individuals out of that 94 set. Look at him here giving Eric Chelle his due credit.
Nice session, I watched it, and Osasu is right, the current Eagles lack the spine and resilience to pull through, and I like the way he differentiated the mentality between an Oshimen and Iwobi, citing their family background and the environment they grew up in. and he is right, saying some of the current Eagles, especially the foreign-born born don't really understand the demands and peculiarity of the Nigerian environment, so they struggle to handle the pressure and criticisms. I also agree with him and Oliseh that our Home playing turf should be taken back to Lagos, as Uyo fans are not giving the Eagles enough pressure to understand what it means to play for GWG.
Any right-thinking person knows Eric Chelle has tried to knowing what he met on the ground. Still, I also agree with Osasu on Eric Chelle not having enough international experience as a coach, which also informed his outbursts on the allegations of Voodoo by the Congolese. First time I will be listening to that Osasu guy, he's well-grounded as he's been around the national team for ages. The reason some of us here don't fancy Oliseh that much was his reign as Eagles coach, too, where he couldn't manage experienced and mature players like Enyeama and Mikel. Imagine Oliseh managing this team, omo, he will have issues with many of the players, as cool as Finidi is, he had issues with Osihmen, just imagine it was Oliseh, it would have been a global disaster.
ThunderFireAgba: I'm glad you understand the dynamics. But shallow minded people won't see it that way. You claim to be a leader, but it's in the time of uncertainty a warrior proves himself!
Will you also hold Osihmen responsible for Ndidi and Chuks clattering into themselves to blow a glorious chance away? abi na Osihmen alone sabi lead?
Just manage your expectations to avoid unnecessary heartbreak and suffering! Advise your relatives and friends too as it doesn’t worth it hearing about people dropping dead for unserious players who will turn motivational speakers after disappointing you. Enough said!
1. You dey play ball? 2. You don pull hamstring before?
I have ...about 5 years ago during my normal saturday morning football sessions.
I was pressing blocked pure water to the thigh for like 5 minutes everyday and rubbing deep heat ointment.
Despite all these, it took me about 3 months before I could resume playing football again.
With the stakes and the physicality of the DR Congo players, there's no way Osimhen would have lasted the remaining 45 minutes.
Abeg, e good as coach commot am to save am for AFCON.
Me, I want us to meet DR Congo again at AFCON. I want to see what Eric Chelle will do, and how the team will play differently.
If osihmen missed Afcon it’s no big deal as Afcon is every two years and he can still play the next edition but the World Cup is every four years and there’s no guarantee Osihmen will be available then. Ghana won’t be in Afcon so what’s the big deal, the real deal is the World Cup. You gerit?
I swear, one can't make this up. While searching, I also stumbled upon Vance blaming illegal migrants for outbidding Americans to houses.
Very soon, we'd be told to accept whatever we're dealth. Afterall, UK is the only country that doesn't blame migrants for the rising price of beef.
Just search for Scott Bessent you’ll see it even many Americans are embarrassed 😂
Even in uk immigrants have also been blamed for rising inflation. I think advanced nations have finally found immigrants and third world nations as a tool for their domestic politics to avoid more scrutiny and accountability from their societies and we should expect more of this in the years ahead.
Goodenoch: In comparison with Badenoch (because it's obvious that's the parrarel you're trying to draw) yes, she is being very decisive and her policies are very firm and some might say harsh, but you haven't seen her say anything derogatory about immigrants in general or Pakistanis in particular right? Her comments have been, as far as I've seen, decisive but dignified, unlike Badenoch's constant rants.
None of the referring to people on skilled worker visas as being in the country to wash bums, that she doesn't identify as bring of Pakistani heritage; that she doesn't want to be identified with certain Pakistani ethnic groups because they are her "historical enemies"; that maternity pay is excessive; that autism confers several advantages etc etc.
So while I can't speak for the Pakistani immigrant community Im reasonably sure most fully understand she is a British minister and her priority is to the country, and so won't begrudge her in any way. But they definitely would if she begins launching random attacks on them every Eke market day. THAT is why primarily people despise Badenough, not because of any policy actions she has taken or supported.
P.S. If anyone has a minute, try searching 'shabbana Mahmood Pakistan' and 'kemi badenoch Nigeria' and see how the results differ. It's actually quite interesting.
The difference is clear, it’s called sense of worth and dignity. You don’t need to despise your kind to feel more important! There are even other MPs of Nigerian origin that never towed such slavery path!
Mujtahida: The match against DRC played out exactly the same way the final against CIV happened. In both matches, We scored first but the opposition wasn't fazed. They just shrugged it off and played their game. And equalized.
What struck me was how our players became timid and tame. You will see fear and panic in their eyes. It's strange.
That’s the perfect description! And it’s too worrisome.
semid4lyfe: Osimhen felt his hamstring at the end of the first half and walked off the pitch with some discomfort. Still he wanted to resume the 2nd half.
The coaching crew made a calculated decision to substitute him so he wouldn't aggravate it, and he could play in the AFCON.
People shitting on Osimhen for the injury, and Eric Chelle for taking him off have major issues in their lives.
It would have been better to risk him for a wcq than Afcon. My thoughts
elyte89: We can choose to hold the NFF responsible for our failure to qualify for the World Cup, and in many ways they do deserve criticism. Their long-standing issues are well known, and nothing seems to change. However, I believe a significant part of the blame must also fall on the players. About 70% of this current squad experienced the painful way we missed the ticket to Ghana, yet that disappointment still didn’t motivate them to perform better in this qualification series. They were placed in a group with mostly lower-ranked teams in Africa, aside from South Africa, yet the performances were still below expectations. I honestly don’t feel sorry for them. It shows a lack of seriousness and a failure to push themselves to grow as professionals. Maybe they feel the World Cup isn’t essential for their careers, but if thats the mindset ,den is disappointing. Many of us came from humble backgrounds, yet we keep striving to excel in our careers despite challenges. So why should professional players, who know the NFF’s shortcomings, wait for miracles? They should have risen above the circumstances and fought for their careers on the pitch. It’s unfortunate, but our next chance is in 2030. The preparation must start now.
You’ve said it all. The players have themselves to blame perhaps they themselves are not confident about their future and just want to remain average or where they are currently. That drive for personal satisfaction and fulfilment is lacking. Never saw an eagles generation as flat as this.
CornOak: I totally lost interest in anything football since last night.
Don’t be hard on yourself there is plenty of football to enjoy from EPL to laliga and champions league etc. Even the upcoming Afcon will still bring lots of entertainment forget about naija football and enjoy the game
lbrichman2: Wait first.. Is it a matter of ability or is it commitment.. Because those drc guys were pretty average but they played with more spirit
I think it's a confidence thing and self-belief. The guys can't just lift their game in big moments, someone said on this thread as he watched them coming out of the tunnel, he could see or sense fear in their eyes. I must be honest, I observed that too,o but I thought as soon as they get on the pitch they should overcome that. Some players are in that team for almost ten years now still na still shaky shaky daddy things. It's that bad.
lbrichman2: My bro Wetin happen exactly? Midfield with 3 midfielders just collapsed like bread wey Dem soak inside water..
Or was it because we played 120 mins earlier?
Or was it the formation? But we started well na and could have gone 2 up if we scored that Lookman's pull out
I just dey ask myself since yesterday
We couldn't mark Coach brain stop to work We returned to our aimless long ball strategy
Na wa
The boys just switched off and like someone said earlier it’s becoming a dejavu for this team. They are not strong finishers and they get overwhelmed in the biggest moments. I think that’s the destiny of this team and how far they can go. We saw it at 2022 wcq, the last Afcon and now this. Expecting more than this is an overkill make we manage am like that. This is a different Eagles from the previous ones. Dem no reach
Kilishihunter: Apart from the loss not being present at the world cup has spoilt a lot of opportunities for those planning to travel to cash out making content or leave the country outright, I understand their pains
Yankee, for that matter, especially for those football fans YouTube pages, those folks for don get plans omo everywhere blurr true true
TheGoodJoe: On a more serious note, I actually lost a neighbor this morning. He had BP issues. Your post makes me ponder. Sad incident.
Oh my God! My deepest sympathy and condolences.
Folks are really going through a lot in our country, I will suggest our medical professionals continue sensitising the public more about their health care during sports events. Well they are on strike sef, aaaah!
QueenJazz: Words fail to describe how disappointed I was with his performance. Based on looks, I misjudged Tolu as Osimhen-lite. His finish against Russia (even though it started as a gift), and his solo effort before the near miss against SA made me overrate him.
I think the biggest lesson we're learning from this whole episode to be way more conservative while praising the club performances of these players. No matter how good they function out in Europe, when they come home, they act like complete strangers and amateurs.
They remind me of English national team of the late 2000s. There was an insane amount of individual talent in that squad (Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney, Beckham, Terry, Ferdinand, Owen, Crouch, Joe Cole etc) but together, they were a bunch of massive underachievers. Failed to qualify for the 2008 Euros and absolutely shiiit the bed in the 2006 and 2010 World Cups.
Very true, this don't touch me football (according to Ifeanyi Udeze) that these European-based players play for us need to stop if we are serious, if you can't function in the national team and play African football, kindly decline invitations, and we should stop inviting such players.
The Sinister Six: Iwobi (grandmaster), Tolu (deputy), Ndidi, Moses Simon, Lookman and Chukwueze.
😂 you need to see how Tolu has been dressed and dragged on social media omo naija no get chills. Tolu is still new in the team but Una mhen no excuses for the more experienced ones! Only God can forgive them
Dannyxy: Iwobi o Simon o Ndidi o, out of the national team.
Apart from NFF, some players too must receive sticks.
Do you know what finals are? Just one game, we had just one game to win AFCON, we were a goal up, we choked embarrassingly, just one game to lift a trophy, you let your opponent run around like you were ball boys, you loose possession, you don’t mark, Iwobi did not mark one runner through out, he didn’t win any ball, no turnover, no through ball, no blocked shots, no shot at goal… One game against Ghana in Abuja One game against Ivory Coast One game against DRC
Mikel and Moses, with Onazi, will pull out this wins 2/3.
This set of players have very weak and lackadaisical personalities, plus mentality and I want them out, most of them, let’s start from scratch, while also kicking out all NFF members out too, Infact let’s get banned from football.
What are we going to AFCON to do?
Out under 17, 20, 23 all suffering, what are we going to AFCON to do, talkless of World Cup?
This current team get too overwhelmed as the stakes become higher. They are bad finishers and can’t fight for too long. It shows in the way we concede late goals. This is where the most senior and experienced members of the team should be held responsible and we all know who they are
get mind o to cry for the eagles 😂 someone even posted that two elderly people in his area had to be rushed to hospital around 11pm! I hail those who deployed so much emotions for the eagles. Me I had my dinner before the match, was in night gown and was on my bed after the game in fact it was on my bed I was posting on this thread last night!
My heart goes out to everyone one experiencing such heartbreaking moments. I hope the players see such videos and understand how their shitty play affects many Nigerians.
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