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TheGoodJoe:
Maybe missed my phrase. PSG is not one of the biggest sides. PSG is definitely a big side but it is not amongst the greats. [/b]Not at all. Or can you put PSG in the same bracket as Bayern and Barcelona?

we are getting there gradually, from small to big, maybe they will become one of the greatest in your eyes if they win the Club World Cup today.

TheGoodJoe:
What osimhen did at Napoli is the only main Legacy he can hinge on now. However going to a place of big reputation like a buy Munich the Chelsea in Manchester United put a semen in a position of even 10X what he has already done that is why moving into a big side is necessary. Winning golden boot in Turkey won't push him among the greatest of all time.

It is about pursuing greatness. At the moment, Osimhen is not among the greatest. He has not even reached Drogba's level.

That's your opinion, and to cut his wages to move to a bigger side cannot be a justification cos Osihmen is not an entry-level or young player. Even if he moves to Germany, where he has played before, folks on this thread will still complain if they don't see him in England. Greatness I insist, cannot be only in England.

TheGoodJoe:
The point is not guaranteed Legacy but a chance to achieve Legacy. I believe that has always been my point. So if you believe that there is a possibility of not achieving greatness in one of the biggest clubs in England, then imagine how low Osimhen's odds will be at Galatasaray.

I think I already pointed out winning the EPL Golden boot. It is not only winning trophies but also personal accolades.

A drop in wage demands wouod have given Osimhen a better shot at achieving greatness.

The wages is not for necessities but extra luxury.

Finito.

If it's personal accolades, Osihmen has plenty already. Just say you want to watch him score goals in England, that's all. All these legacy, greatness, and golden boot na senmatics sir. Dude is already greatness personified. If you're still in doubt, check his Wikipedia page under individual honours. England cannot be the only place he achieves greatness or legacy! That one no enter

lovewins:
I personally do not like the Galatasaray move. Would prefer he plays in top England, Spain or Italy too. That however wasn't the crux of that argument. I can express my preference as a fan of Victor and my disappointment on the Turkey move without calling to question the motivation for his decision, while at the same time predicting the future like I know tomorrow.

@TheGoodJoe's argument that Victor's refusal to reduce his wage for EPL teams is because of his desire for luxurious leaving and a dent on his legacy is in my opinion problematic. First, he had know way to know his true intentions (none of us do). Second, even if Victor decides today to reduce his wage, he'll still be rich enough to be luxurious, so that argument falls flat on its face.

On legacy, no one can't predict the future. Let's assume Victor signs for a club that like say Arsenal who hasn't won anything in the last decade, wouldn't that fit into the same "no legacy" argument? Who would have thought just a year ago that PSG would be the best team in Europe after letting Mbappe, Messi and Neymar go. Many persons here didn't think it was a great move for Victor just a year ago.

Imagine o, Arsenal. People should just say they want to watch Osihmen week in week out on their screens in the EPL instead of all this legacy or greatness bullshit! That one no enter at all!

Can this country be restructured, please?

M7even:
Pele..you really seething Arsenal's decision at failing to acquire Osimhen...you'd wished they'd signed him up right. ?

😂 when am not an Arsenal fan, abeg I don’t follow clubs with no ambitions

TheGoodJoe:
Let Osimhen pursue Galatasaray. You think Premier League is beans.

The Premier League is not the summit of football. Greatness is possible in other places, sir!

Napoleon55:
You are making fun of yourself if you cannot interpret or understand a simple principle

That's how we all made fun of PSG then as being in Farmers league, so no be today. Life cannot begin and end in epl, that's the point.

elyte89:
Sheyb I was among d first ppu on dis thread dt said psg move was d best for osimhen ,but a lot here antagonised my opinion, osimhen in psg would easily be bagging highest goal scorer of d season,club trophies and individual glory

I remember o, they say na Farmers League PSG dey, now no one can say that again.

TheGoodJoe:
Arsenal otondo club. A team that has come second back to back in the EPL.

Coming second isn't a trophy or looking like a club with ambitions, such a risky or low-budget side is not good enough for VO if they claim they can't afford his wages. Let them pursue players like Madueke in peace, who are more suited for their kind of ambitions!

TheGoodJoe:
Arsenal is overwhelmingly a good choice. Osimhen's fan base would be crazy there.

Oga Joe forget matter both Arsenal and Man U are otondo clubs

TheGoodJoe:
The clubs are big sides. They don't need Osimhen to become great. Osimhen actually need them to be great.

like Man u and Arsenal

BankyGee:
No he's not.

Six of those goals in the Süper Lig is equal to 1 in the Premier League
The two against Tottenham is ⅓ of one Premier League goal because they were not scored in a Man Yoo shirt... 😒

😂 e come be like bureau de change, dollar to naira! nothing wey musa no go see or hear for gate!

Napoleon55:
To whom much is given,much is required of him.

Osimhen has been blessed with great talent,it comes with the great responsibility to use it wisely in a best possible way not only for his own benefits but for others as well

Great responsibility from who? What defines using it wisely, a player scores goals that won him trophies in just the concluded season and we think he’s not using his talent wisely and benefiting others? Chai 😂

Napoleon55:
Yekini’s in comparison to Eto'o, Weah and Drogba's greatness?

It’s your personal definition! This idea that a player must play in the epl to be recognised as great is warped

TheGoodJoe:
Rashidi Yekini is a great player in our Nigerian football climate. On the international scale, he has little to no rep. He is not even in 200 of the world greatest players. I doubt he will even enter 500 world greatest players list.

It still boils down to personal definitions and we can’t force that on any player. Simple

TheGoodJoe:
Osimhen should know that these big clubs know they offer legacies. The chance of being recognized as great. That is why they are not ready to pay him hugely. If he comes to the EPL and have a strong impact, his wages will go up.

Osimhen should know that is when he will have true value. He can go on with Galatasaray and keep buying luxury cars and mansions.

Will you say Rashidi Yekini whose greatest exploits in Europe was even at the second division tier in Portugal was not recognised as a great player even at a global level? cos till today his goal celebration in the World Cup in the game against Bulgaria remain an iconic highlight even in FIFA’s archives.

The way we are trying to redefine greatness and legacy on this thread is becoming too personal.

It’s interesting to see SE governors waking up finally. I think the scrutiny and questions Obi is facing of what he actually did in anambra has motivated all the SE governors to show more workings and have much to answer for tomorrow. That’s the huge benefit democracy brings when leaders are held to account.

Kudos to the SE governors, am impressed!

do4luv14:
Not with boebhy and marasca in place


Chaiii I miss baba Olowo, else it's a done deal on VO Since

I tell you, something left global football since that guy exited

Oga Shettima you don use your own hand write your sack letter 😂

That’s why you have ADC sir, kindly join the moving train 😂

The refineries will work if they are fully privatised, but the problem is that they will all end up acquired by Dangote, even by proxies.

PHIPEX:
It seems Shetima will soon port to ADC, I wouldn't be surprised

Exactly, looks like a farewell speech! No need to go through the corners!

They don Dey whine Obedients o! going, going……….. hmmmm

Bannedlargejr:
“Yes men” the worst set of people to associate yourself. They will watch you go down without saying anything. How can any reasonable person allow osimhen to stay at turkey? One should never overstay their welcome and should leave when the ovation is High.

Are you talking to me or yourself cos I no understand o! Leave na wahala, stay wahala

At this rate If Tinubu goes to the White House, he’s on his own o. 😂

Bannedlargejr:
There’s no gods. All he has to do is reduce his salary and Liverpool or man utd will sign him. No be external matter

Call him and tell him, as for me even Saudi am good, na Una Dey bang Una heads for nothing! Anywhere star boy go we mount.

Zahra29:
You are right (for the first time ever lol)

I did a little research on the Biden/Buhari policy you mentioned and came across the official announcement from 2023:

https://www.nigeriaconsulateatlanta.org/nigeria-reciprocates-5-year-us-visa-policy/

The announcement from the US embassy is (deliberately?) misleading in their use of the term reciprocal, when it looks like there's more to this.....Bad America....

uncle, no vex. I haff seen the light

There’s no trophy here ma I have made errors too on this thread where I said Jamaica was visa free to Nigerians until someone corrected me and I admitted.

Meanwhile your sins are forgiven, go and sin no more 😂

Amedino99:
dont you know the gods of the land blocked his transfer because he doesn't visit his village to develop the area.

Omo Osihmen don hear am 😂 he needs to appease the gods of the land with the following items……. including one mosquito wey no get mama

Zahra29:
The bolded are your words not mine oh , before your fellow gang members come for me 😂

Uncle, but the friend you quoted has a Nigerian spouse though? If they had no close Nigerian connections, perhaps they would have had a different experience. Not arguing, just saying that others' experience *might* be different.

Yes the words are mine and I own it with my full chest but let’s not lie against the poor country.

As for my friend’s spouse, it was a fallout of the agreement between Buhari and Biden and both Nigerians and Americans are beneficiaries as I and my spouse got 5 year multiple American visitor visa as well like so many others so it has nothing to do with connection to America or Nigeria just simple visa policy as a result of international diplomacy.

And as matter of fact how many Americans will actually want or desire multiple visa entry to Nigeria except for regular visits if they have personal reasons or business trips. So it depends on individual needs and choices. In fact the single entry is an evisa thing which will be more convenient than going for the multiple option if there is no need to do so.

Zahra29:
They don't have to spell it out though as that's typically what visa reciprocity means.

Various immigration lawyers and articles including the BBC have explained what Nigeria's visa policy for US visitors is, and that this is the same policy the US has implemented in return.

I saw the multiple entry visa option (up to 5 years) on the Nigerian immigration website, however it appears conditional based on reciprocity, for countries offering similar multiple-entry visit visas to Nigerians - perhaps the US government discounted this if it wasn't routinely granted to American citizens.

Although the US government has also stipulated other areas that need to be addressed before they review the policy.

Aunty the BBC and immigration lawyers can’t be the source of truth for Nigeria immigration policies. The Nigeria government thru the immigration website just like home office website is the single source of truth. I told you about a friend who got multiple entry visa you’re arguing as if you are the one issuing visas? 😂

Nigeria is a shithole we agree but let’s stop the false claims and assumptions.

Goodenoch:
The only reason why it makes more sense to you is because it fits the narrative you love to push, and your MO of hiding behind other people's statements when you're unwilling to take a stance of your own or too lazy to do the checks neccessary to find things out for yourself.

Otherwise, why couldn't you just Google it and find out if it was the case the Nigeria only granted 3 month visas to Americans? Didn't you even consider whether it's plausible from a common sense standpoint?

Here are some links that might help educate you - https://immigration.gov.ng/info-center/visiting-multiple-entry-visa-f6b/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Nigeria/comments/1am3lo2/2024_nigerian_visa_for_us_citizens/

NOWHERE in any of the US government's communications did they state that the measure was in response to Nigeria only issuing 3 months visa to Americans so there's really no basis for the 'reasoning' that you adopted.

By the way, one wonders why a news organisation like the BBC could not simply definitively confirm whether Nigeria was only issuing three months visas to Americans or not, and instead had to rely on a random lawyer's soundbite, but then it makes sense because how else will they mislead the Zahra29s of this world without explicitly lying and getting called out for it?

It’s deliberate to make it look as if it was Nigeria’s fault to receive what Trump is dishing out and don’t forget it tallies with the growing narrative of reducing net migration so the Uk can consider that route too. And don’t be surprised in the next few months we start seeing such suggestions from the Uk which will generate more excitement that if the US does it why not the Uk. Agenda must gend like we say in local parlance.