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elyte89:
I can tell u for free dt he’s waiting for us to qualify for d World Cup first before committing himself

And if dt happens I won’t be part of those campaigning against him ;saying monkey Dey work baboon Dey chop…


U don’t leave ur best players at home while going for a tournament 🏟️,u take ur best fighting tools to d war

Story 😂 Nigerians are sentimental people if we ever qualify they will abuse any coach that will not invite him. Oga quintessential here na im go lead the delegation for the boy!

Goodenoch:
Exactly. The bolded is what she what she was doing and it was very deliberate.

Is it not the same spousal route that they made substantially harder recently, for the spouses to even be able to come live in the UK at all before talking citizenship?

She, personally, proposed stricter measures beyond the increased salary on spousal visas, so that’s why she chose to lie about her children instead.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/33766077/migrant-salary-minimum-visa-kemi-tories/

That’s why I asked earlier if he watched the video cos so many reactions I have seen are just out of scope. God help us in this season of fake news and misinformation.

Zahra29:
To the bolded, it used to be pretty much instant naturalisation on marriage to a British citizen , with little or no conditions attached, until this route started being abused, sham marriages, benefits, etc and the rules consequently got tightened.

Exactly I know of colleagues who married Nigerian citizens back home and it took ages for them to join their spouses here. This was even years ago so it’s nothing new. The same with the US who abolished a route for fiancées from Nigeria which was a quicker route too. Countries can tighten all they can but shouldn’t be based on misinterpreting or misinformation on other nations immigration laws.

RodgersAkpafu:
The falcons lady you mentioned got her citizenship through her paternal grandfather
Even you know this, and this. again, makes Kemi point very applicable

Now whether Kemi should have referenced that is a separate discussion (I'll say she shouldn't have)

But to claim that she is "lying" or don't know what she is saying is utterly bollocks.

For many of una, it's just fear that the British may reference this to make ILR even more harder than it already is, thats why many of them are running pillar to post to disparage Kemi lol

The overall naturalisation process is bollocks in Nigeria and her point about UK kpali being relatively easier than most others is very true

Even u ppl know, but "abeg, make dem no close door for us, we want to collect our own kpali"

Just saying

And for your further information, passing on citizenship has nothing to do with gender. Another footballer, Cyriel Dessers, who also plays for the Super Eagles, has a Belgian father and a Nigerian mother. The laws are clear!

RodgersAkpafu:
The falcons lady you mentioned got her citizenship through her paternal grandfather
Even you know this, and this. again, makes Kemi point very applicable

Now whether Kemi should have referenced that is a separate discussion (I'll say she shouldn't have)

But to claim that she is "lying" or don't know what she is saying is utterly bollocks.

For many of una, it's just fear that the British may reference this to make ILR even more harder than it already is, thats why many of them are running pillar to post to disparage Kemi lol

The overall naturalisation process is bollocks in Nigeria and her point about UK kpali being relatively easier than most others is very true

Even u ppl know, but "abeg, make dem no close door for us, we want to collect our own kpali"

Just saying

She's lying because Nigeria was not the reason she gave up her citizenship; she's the one who wanted to serve the British society, so how is that Nigeria's fault? It's pure injustice for Nigeria's immigration laws to be misinterpreted, for Nigerians to be denied immigration privileges in the West.

RodgersAkpafu:
Like I said before
I know that
And what she said is somewhat applicable as well, though it's an aspect of a broader discussion about how misogynist and useless our Nigerian immigration system/laws are

She is even more correct when you juxtapose naturalisation requirements for Britain vs Nigeria, India, Pakistan, etc

Its actually not that cumbersome, even though you will need to jump a couple of hoops

But Nigerians with blabbermouth will not accept
Instead of addressing the issues, they will rather try to do image laundering because we care more about looking good than being good

But she never mentioned that, and that's the same way many of us misinterpreted the US statement on single-entry visas for Americans by the Nigerian government, including the BBC.

And even for foreign spouses married to British, there is no direct naturalisation for them until they have lived in the UK for a while, so let's not make it look as if once a foreigner marries a British, they are becoming British citizens directly and that's why madam kemi knew what she was saying and didn't mention anything about her spouse. She was very clear on what she meant. She was trying to exploit her Nigerian heritage for politics as usual, knowing too well that she had probably rescinded her Nigerian citizenship before becoming a senior cabinet member when her party was in power ( not many Nigerians may be aware of that).

In light of the foregoing, citizenship can also be obtained if grandparents are Nigerians, and there are several cases like that, e.g., Ashley Plumptre, who plays for the Nigerian female national team and became a Nigerian citizen through her grandparents. Enough of the gas lighting, abeg, before Nigerians start becoming innocent victims of falsehood being peddled for political gains in the West.

nairalandankrah:
Osi Staying in Napoli, where he was mocked by the club's own official account and disrespected publicly by the president, would not have shown "strength." It would have shown him being compliant. A strong player walks away when his value is diminished, not because he's weak, but because he knows his worth.

You talk about ambition. This is an ambitious move. He’s choosing joy, respect, and a team that believes in him. Mental peace matters. No player thrives in an environment that makes them question their worth. A toxic club stunts growth more than a change in league level ever could.

Also, the Turkish league is still a top 10 league in Europe. We might mock our rivals, but they're still stiff competition. There's a lot of pressure to play for Galatasaray, which should help with his accountability as a player and I'm assuming a future captain for Nigeria.

I don talk this thing tire but many no wan gree. Mental peace first before anything else.

RodgersAkpafu:
Better to pin it as that
.Because yall have nothing sensible to say.

If I didn't know women who have been at the short end of the stick on matters pertaining to this, I wouldn't be too pissed about it

Kemi own as much as I like her, her own is getting too MUCH BUT THE POINT SHE RAISED IS VALID

Are you sure you watched the video? I’ve seen lots of opinions and I can deduce those who understood what she was saying in there and those who are trying to expand the scope of conversation to where she was not even referring to.

lavida001:
Just a harmless post about fixing your country brought out so many triggers and you had to write this essay.
You can’t make this thing up.

When next you see a post you don’t like hop on the next one and stop giving yourself unnecessary heartache.

Ire oo

You think it’s harmless but others don’t see it like that. Try to be considerate it’s not that hard. I can decide to be posting here about davido and wizkid shebi it’s a Nigerian affair too but will it make sense here? That’s why nairaland has different sections for different things. Kindly post in the right section, that’s the polite request!

charlesemeka85:
Osimhen in a top 3 league in Europe stands the chance of winning the Apoty even more than twice as well as a good chance finishing top 3-5 in Ballon d’or nomination in the future if he maintains his form

Osimhen is massively talented and too good to be rated along side the likes of Mbappe,Haaland and others in world football currently and this is the main reason his move to Turkey pierces my heart

The golden jewel we ought to be boasting with in world football in this era choose Hausa/Fulani league instead 🤦‍♀️

aah No let Oga quintessential see wetin you write here o! 😂

Napoleon55:
You are missing the point.
If you are OK for him going to Turkey, that's your choice, but some us are not and we should say it out.

For clarification,we have produced many talented players and we also have some talented players presently,but Osimhen is our biggest player Since Okocha, Kanu and Mikel. Every thing that happens about him is bound to generate varies of opinions.

Many of Osimhen's U17 mates were very talented, Nwakali was supposed to be the most talented, was his career mounded to Osimhen's level?
How about Isaac Success?
It's one thing to say we have talented players, and another thing to manage them to be among the best in the world.
Osimhen is among the best in the world, he should be playing in a top league, that's the point.

Since osihmen has finally gone to where we don’t like can we all turn our attention to others and tell them too not to go to where we don’t like.

Am surprised you mention mikel, the same mikel that was torn to shreds here? Despite staying in Chelsea forever many never saw him as a legend abi na legacy which again calls to question about insisting that one must be playing in top clubs to satisfy all of Una desires. Apart from PSG which many here don’t rate that highly am not sure of any other top club Okocha played in, for Kanu maybe so at the end all do all these big clubs names really matter especially when it’s not always in the power of these players?

Baxilexi:
This I agree with. Her kids when they come of age can apply for themselves by virtue of their grandparents.

My issue is she’s being called a liar, but I know it’s not as straight forward as people call it out to be.

She’s not a ‘citizen by birth’

You’re trying to be technical and I know where you’re coming from. She probably might have rescinded her Nigerian citizenship as a senior British govt official especially as she was a former cabinet member when her party was in power but this is where she’s spreading falsehood as not many people people will be aware of that, she claimed to be Nigerian by descent and went on to claim she can’t pass it on and that’s where she goofed. This is why in the first place she ought not to be exploiting her Nigerian heritage for politics if she no longer pledge allegiance to the Green white Green flag! There are other MPs of Nigerian descent in the uk parliament who aren’t doing this so why her?

lavida001:
But why this better Nigeria dey usually trigger una. You have never commented on any post on here but post about better naija you write epistle. You go dey alright las las abi no be so?

Just an advice, @willyede is right about you going to the politics section if you want to talk more about fixing naija, I go there to comment about naija politics as well so it’s nothing strange or personal. This thread is where folks come here to discuss primarily about life in the uk and ask questions to address issues concerning the uk, I don’t think if anyone comes and see things about fixing Nigeria on this thread that will make sense of any relevance. The politics section is wide enough to express all your views there and even the things we comment on here that relate to immigration views expressed by uk politicians, topics are opened there as well where you can use such opportunity to express the reason why fixing naija is important. Yes some of us may tolerate or accommodate such things here but looks like others may just see it as annoying especially when they feel the politics section is there to accommodate such so why not focus more on life pertaining to the uk which is the main subject of this thread. Thank you!

Napoleon55:
Wetin concern us with Retegui.
Osimhen is our own, we should be bothered about his career decisions not Retegui.

We are bothered because it's very difficult to produce a talented player and mould him into a superstar status.
The only one we managed to produce, in his prime,he decided to leave the top leagues where he should be competing with the best players to retirement and Hauser league according to our in-house critics.

We are not ok,we just hope somehow he leaves Galatasaray within two years.

Is osihmen the only talented Nigerian player we have now? Can't we shift our focus to other players? If Osihmen is your only talented player, then something is wrong somewhere but the fact that Nigeria has produced two APOTY back to back shows there are other players out there we should be looking at and monitor their transfers too, this obsession with Osihmen is becoming an overkill, make we rest small and ask where other players too are going.

Toylove:
Wetin this ekiti kete Dey play wey osimhen no play🤔🤔

This one na pay bite no be pay cut

BankyGee:
I go lie for you again? 😂

😂 on top this legacy o

lbrichman2:
No be the same Retegui, top scorer for Atalanta last season be this??!

He don abandon legacy 😂

ChrisP92:
Indians japa pass Nigerians, but they are very quiet about it.

Why is she not talking about other countries migrating? Abi she thinks she will be PM forever, even if she's given?

She has seen how gullible we are as a people to believe anything and she’s exploiting it big time!

Baxilexi:
Kemi doesn’t have a Nigerian birth certificate issued by the NPC which is required for application.
Her parents are not the custodians of her kids so they cannot apply for the children and the children cannot apply for themselves.

You guys should stop all these, did kemi sought for help with her application that’s if she ever wants it for her children sef.

Ashley plumptre that plays for the Nigerian female national team obtained her citizenship by virtue of her grandparents being Nigerians.

Odunayaw:
I am convinced the deriders don't actually care if he is in the best clubs. For them it's always just another chance to mock. "He scored less goals" "He didn't score against the big boys"

Na today? 😂 that’s what it has always been about.

jaxxy:
in Nigeria I don't think the man can ever be a citizen he only has a residency. Abroad there is a path to becoming a citizen for the man when married to a citizen.

Chai 😂 kemi said this one too Abi, even if she does chat gpt can help you out here

aribisala0:
Well I do not agree with this approach of defending or attacking. I do not believe in sides just the facts.
I think Historically there were gender imbalances. Whether those have been addressed can be verified
We tend to take everything personal in Nigeria
She said what she believed in my opinion even though it was wrong . If she did not believe it then she would have been lying.
What she said can easily be fact checked and I expect she knows that so why lie knowing she would be contradicted?

I personally remember reading some rules about women with regard to immigration in Nigeria but maybe they have changed

I think it was easier for a foreign wife to become a citizen than husband but then people who are not married to Nigerians at all can also become citizens

She is right in general it appears to be easier to acquire British citizenship than Nigerian

She never mentioned Nigeria in that video in regards to discrimination against women, it’s Nigerians that are expanding the conversation out of scope. The politician in this discourse went for her target and she hit it cos she knows she has a huge base especially among Nigerians that will swallow whatever she spills out, true or false. Just playing politics as usual.

If there are specific immigration laws in Nigeria that needs to be addressed then she would have called it out but that’s not her interest but just anything to justify the anti immigration rhetoric or narratives for her British audience while taking advantage of our vulnerability as Nigerians.

aribisala0:
I do not see the logic here?did she qualify through her spouse?
Why should she mention her spouse?

That’s what those are defending her are saying that she mixed things up in spouses of Nigerians not able to qualify for citizenship you can read earlier pages

aribisala0:
neither husbands nor wives qualify just by marriage
They would need to live in Nigeria
It is thesame everywhere
Marriage would just give access to live in Nigeria

That’s the reason she never mentioned her spouse cos in the uk you also need to live in the uk with your British spouse for some years before finally qualifying for citizenship.

jaxxy:
because I’m a woman,"

This was my reference. And is there any immigration law in Nigeria that discriminates against women who marry foreigners? Ohh yes

The law she referred to as a woman does not exist. She never mentioned her spouse

jaxxy:
I'm sure u can hazard guess the law she probably was referring to just like I did.

She didn’t make any reference, I say drop the video where she made, it’s guess work you’re doing 😂

lavida001:
Youna go fix that country by force seh 🤣

Kemi can fix it don’t you think so?

jaxxy:
Because I am a woman

And yes there is an immigration law that is discriminatory to women in Nigeria.

She didn’t mention the law in the interview if you have a version where she mentioned the law kindly post the video here

ehizario2012:
I'll like to know the age of the children, however a 13+ child isn't a kid. At 13 there are things I would never do. The parents are the ones I pity, they should go and have other children after this episode. God help them.

easy bro, the thing pain me as well but pikin wey go loss go still loss! We just need to be hopeful for the parents to pull through!

jaxxy:
Is this not implying discrimination to women?

Or u need her to spell it out?

I have that citizenship by virtue of my parents, I can’t give it to my children because I’m a woman,” she said.

This is a blatant lie, as this is not what our laws say, ok? Unless you want to redo the interview for her

You get it now?

Goodenoch:
To be honest at this point I’m convinced it’s a mental issue of some kind, because it’s something that’s so easy to verify and she must have known it would be fact-checked very quickly. I also cannot believe she didn’t know because again it’s such a basic thing that if she had ever done 1 minute of research to find out for the sake of her children, she’d know the real position.

Alternatively, maybe she just doesn’t care about the truth or being fact-checked because she knows the base she’s appealing to who jump on anything to justify their animus against immigrants (especially Africans) are too dumb/lazy to fact check anything.

I’m sure in the Daily Mail comment sections you’ll see this repeated over and over now till it becomes the truth in certain circles and if you try to educate them it’ll be as if you’re the one who’s lying or ignorant - much like all the tales of asylum seekers being given iPhones and luxury cars as they get off the boats.

Tomorrow, if she says someone stole meat from her mother’s pot of stew in Naija, they will believe her, especially our people. 😂 That’s how stupid we can be! They will say she’s telling the truth, so our leaders can change.

nerdymonk:
Politicians and lies...5 and 6 🤣🤣

Like making it difficult for legal immigrants to get British citizenship will solve all the problems in the UK.

Eldorado UK 🤣

That’s far right politics for you. They need to continue lying to their base to keep them happy cos that’s all they’ve got.