This is the issue I always have with people like you .
Is Gowon not a greater one Nigerianist than Tinubu ?? And Gowon is not even a politician .
Tinubu like any other politician from the North, East , South is self serving and would never want to let go of the power one Nigeria has given them.
Where are people like Mark , Ekweremadu , GEJ and TY Danjuma in this picture . Aren't they all self serving one Nigerianists.
But Tinubu is y'all problem ..Gosh
The same Tinubu that struggled to win Ogun and , Osun and Lagos in the last elections .
PDP rules Oyo. Ondo and Ekiti are not Tinubu's friends . But hey agenda must agend
na tinubu even give dem the mouth wey dem get now when he started making them commissioners and other appointments [they owe him much gratitude but still despise him] and thank God that rebel agbaje no enter, he for sell Lagos finish to them [reason they wanted him]. The miscalculations these politicians keep making is what has embolden these dummies.
Redcrafton: Which one do you own in Abuja, PH, Kaduna, Jos, Markudi, Warri, Benin and other places. So only can buy in Lodnon and US? I accept the truth. I don't do propaganda like you. So now you have accepted that you lied that Igbos went begging. I can assure you that Igbos are ready to even lose all those if referendum can be agreed, so they can vote. They just don't want your people who are always aggressive to loot their property if the separation comes with force. See what is happening in Lagos.
never in our history have we looted the properties of fellow Nigerians, not even during the civil war. na una shadow dey pursue una with all the bad and wicked things you guys have done to others in order to grab what's not yours. As for referendum, tell your reps and senators in the National assembly to push for one, they are the real cowards abi na we go push referendum for una again?
Redcrafton: Pictures don't lie Ogbeni. Twisting facts with clear pictures? Your decades if lying will come to an end some day. [b]The only reason they were talking about UN and international community is to ensure you don't steal their properties as was done in Port-harcourt. [/b]Poor people always look for a way to loot from the rich. How many properties do you own outside your region. Zilch. Stop ridiculing yourself. What more can be done to the Igbos that was not done in 1966-1970?
what property una get, were your properties not returned to you after the civil war? thank God you have finally admitted you cried to the UN.
and who want to own a property in the shithole yeast where London and US dey, abeg talk another story, owning properties in a landlocked forsaken SE is the most insane thing to do in a modern Nigeria.
Iamgrey5: Weren't you the one at a point that claimed Fulani killed and sent majority of Yorubas in Plateau away.
You even said Yorubas are cowards!
You even implied that Yorubas are Lazy!
And that outside Lagos, Yoruba land should be completing with the likes of Niger republic, even though stats released by the Nigerian government and international organizations still place South West(without Lagos) ahead of your region on every development indicies known to man.
Nothwithstanding the obvious fictional narrative stated above, you are still telling us that there are thousands of Yorubas flourishing in Jos.
Shouldn't they have fled, if they are cowards as you claim
What will they be doing exactly in Jos if they are Lazy as you implied?
Lazying around or contributing to the economy of Jos and its environs.
So apparently which one of your argument do we now believe in your narratives
I am confused because you seem to always contradict yourself.
the guy na confusion impersonified, one moment, yorubas are lazy, next he will say the gym he goes to belong to a yoruba man. Another time he will say fulanis drove yorubas away from jos, next he will tell how how many yourbas are in jos doing wonders and married to one of their own. im matter don pass be careful. I think he is confused and just want to align foolishly with the igbos on their false narratives against the SW
Redcrafton: You people just love to lie all over the country with no shame at all. Who was crying all over the places? It is the other way round ogbeni. See this pictures and you can tell who was begging. I hope it will end your lying and deceit.
Pic 1: Northern youths in Igbo attire, begging Igbos to stay.
Pic 2: Northern governors visit Abia state to plead.
you want to twist facts?, were we not all in this country, when you guys were shouting biafra that you were told to leave, you started crying to UN and the international community upadan [like you normally do like spoilt brats] it was after you guys cried, everyone started calming you guys down. You folks just find it difficult to admit your weakness, its your nature. You are never wrong but others according to you.
theenchanter: I fear fa. I went to unilorin myself and I'm wondering if there was another Ilorin in Nigeria.
Majority of People in Ilorin speak nothing but Yoruba.
the ilorin narrative has been so twisted by the ignoramus here in nairaland who don't even know the road that leads to the place. I think its high time kwarans especially the state govt begin to package the state more to reflect the true heritage of the state, the media is there for their use. I think saraki's father did too much damage back then when he said they were not yorubas all because of political patronage. Even a town like jebba some folks don't even know that it is a yoruba city or town. There is so much ignorance out there about Kwara, even nearby kogi state, some folks don't even believe yorubas exist there, mhen i tire, that is why these cowards come here on a faceless forum to spew rubbish and their agenda is clear, rubbish the yoruba race as much as possible, meanwhile yoruba muslims is presently trending on twitter, another agenda to divide our land using religion.
We Yorubas should stop sleeping on bicycle, we've got real enemies who want to see our land burn.
Iamgrey5: You see one cannot lie that Lagos strategic location gives it a competitive advantage over other states i.e. the sea side to the west that makes cargo coming from Europe and America easily dock its ports.
Nonetheless, one cannot deny the hard work Yorubas have had to put in over the years to make lagos to function to our advantage. Even before the advent of a Nigerian state, the Europeans have preferred Lagos to other towns in Nigeria.
is it our fault that we are too blessed? do we need to grab other people's land to claim we are not landlocked?
If only Ogun and Ondo states were more dynamic, do you know how many large ships will be docking there by now?
Nowenuse: Why are we going to bring our rallies to the SW? Is that not Yorubaland?
However, we have a more strategic territory than Yorubas and that is FCT-Abuja.
Abuja is middlebelt land and all the villages, towns and natives surrounding every part of the nation's capital city are Middlebelters.
You Yorubas surround the economic capital of Nigeria, but for the average Core-northerner, they wouldn't care if Lagos burns to ashes all in a bid to curb seccessionism, after all, the money that sustains them comes from the Nigerdelta and not the SW. Infact I think the average Hausa fulani would be happy if Lagos is destroyed and the South looses economic ownership of the country.
But Hausa fulanis can never joke with Abuja cos they have so so many properties and stake there. If we start protesting, Hausa fulani soldiers cannot impound us the way they did to Igbos in the SE or the Shiites in Abuja, cos if they try that, the whole of Abuja will catch fire (especially the Suburban towns). And God forbid if Abuja goes into conflict like Jos or Kaduna and it assumes a religious dimension. It will immediately lead to the expulsion of Hausa fulani/muslims from most of the suburban towns of Abuja, cos they do not have the numbers there.
And our advantage is that Middlebelt christians & Igbos are the 2 largest groups of people in Abuja, making up at least 65% of the population
I laugh at Yorubas who make noise about them being the ones holding Nigeria together. No matter the noise that Yorubas make in Nigeria, without the support of other Southerners, Hausa fulani army will crush you people like nothing. And you have nothing on them and nothing will happen. You people should thank God that the Igbos are by default anti-Arewa, so whenever Yorubas decide to be anti-Arewa, the Igbos are always at default by your side, making u look more important than u actually are.
The British and the Hausa fulanis themselves knew how terribly powerful the pagan tribes of central Nigeria would become when they were united and that was why they did everything on Earth possible to weaken us by 1)Promoting the spread of Islam in our midst by limiting missionary work 2) Creating Hausa fulani Emirate settlements in our midst 3) Promoting the use of Hausa language than any of the native languages to be our lingua franca. Many of our own people do not even know this. But we thank God for the internet.
There is a reason why 90% of the foot soldiers who fought the civil war were from my region and till date only my people can match Hausa fulani numbers in the military.
The unity of all Northern & middlebelt Christian tribes against the Core-north will be the end of Nigeria and this is coming very very soon.
And where are those people who claim that muslims are more in the middlebelt? They should come and explain to us how Abuja (the centre of the Middlebelt) is predominantly Christian. Fooolishness.
you are a joker, the former emir of kano, sanusi once said that Lagos is more important to them as northerners than the niger delta, no wonder the man ran to Lagos after he was chased out of kano. Despite all the bad wishes, you, the SE, the north and all other dummies alike out there wish for Lagos, the city continues to attract huge investments that you guys cannot even comprehend or understand. We Yorubas are not cannibalistic like your ilk so the thought of Lagos or any SW city becoming like Jos or the shitholes in the SE does not arise. We are aware of your agenda and wish for us as Yourubas, but we are not just a tribe but a race found all over the world and that identity continues to be a defence against predators like your people up north and from the yeast
spendoon: Shattap don't call Lagos a SW State for now because yourobas don even account for up to 45 percent of the success story in Lagos, Lagos is considered Nigeria's economic capital do you think lagos will be any different from ogun or Oyo if it we're left to just Yorubas. Ok you know what put lagos and let me put other core northern states then we will do the conpereism
Lagos ceases to be FCT since 1991 and is a former capital like calabar too, the political leadership has also been in the hands of the Yorubas for well over 20 years including the number of years the late Otedola [femi otedola's father] was governor. There must be something the Yorubas keep getting right about Lagos that all and sundry have got to admit, else you can happily hug a transformer.
In addition, Ogun and Oyo already has proven a lot of book makers wrong with their superlative economic performance in recent years, only those who rely on nairaland for brown roof pictures disagree cos their minds are too dull of understanding
So far, I can deduce that your own definition of bravery is when a tribe can kill. To you, bravery have to be proven by shedding blood like savages.
You have been using crisis in the North as the measure of bravery from the beginning of this thread. To you any tribe that can slay defensive people whether in their sleep or daylight like the Jukum cannibals and Fulani herdsmen are brave. Well we always see life in our own image, that part of the North have always been an axis of evil where countless gruesome killings is their heritage.
my dear, it tells you how cannibalistic, insane and uncivilized folks we are living with in this country and they still have the guts to insult our heritage because we do not carry arms, grab lands and burn up villages like them. awon oloriburuku
Nowenuse: Can we say Lagos is conquered land because about half of the population of Lagos are settlers??
Seccession is the only way we can fully take back our land cos the laws of Nigeria give everyone the right to live and work anywhere.
As much as Hausas hate Igbos, it will not be easy for them to drive Igbos out of Sabongari (Kano).
when the north gave igbos ultimatum to leave their land the other day, were they not crying all over the world for the order to be reversed? Its now clear why you align with the igbos, na the same hypocrisy dey worry una, threatening to leave when in truth they are not ready to go anywhere
paltielx: Trump has defunded it but happily microsoft boss Bill Gates has offered $150 million which is above Trump $118 million anual sponsor for the organisation
candidtalk: I agree and have often said this myself many times here. Igbo means 'I Go Before Others'.
When Igbos cannot go before or rule and subjugate other Nigerians , they begin shouting secession base on 'marginalisation'. They are pathetic to be honest.
that is the summary of their attitude and character!
candidtalk: Once again, because you are not intelligent enough, you fail to see the central point which is that the Yorubas are a flexible and pragmatic people who deliberately prepare themselves for all outcomes.
We don't put all our eggs in one basket as we understand that no one can predict the future. Hence we plan for all outcomes and make allowances for failure rather than assume it is our divine right to get our ways always as Igbos wish to do with hate, blackmail, brattish tantrums and insults.
No Yoruba, except the ignoramuses amongst us, would ever be afraid of going it alone. If anything, well-informed, pragmatic and realistic Yorubas can only pity others because we know all of you, to include SE, SS, Middle belt and North, will suffer if we leave.
Many of you are not prepared for what you ask for because unbridled pride and hate for others will not allow you to see your own grave shortcomings.
Ask yourself why it is 'unity beggars' Yorubas who currently host the DAWN initiative that is the most complete documented template of regional progress and autonomy.
The visionary Yorubas, much like Awolowo proposed the seccesion clause Igbos shot down to their own future detriment, have produced documented and well-thought out policies for regions to gain autonomy and thus control over their own fate and rate/scale of progress.
What have you hateful elements produced other than blackmail secession noise lacking formal cohesion, clear policies and strategy?
As another example of your self-delusion, ask yourself why it is Igbos most vocal about secession while their brightest and most useful, from a nation-building perspective, remain outside Ala Igbo with no interest to ever return.
Yorubas are not unity beggars. We are just far more intelligent, exposed and grounded than the rest of you. Never confuse this to mean we fear going our way. Some of us actually now favour that.
Yet we have an eye on the destructive refugee menace and nuisance you unprepared lot will constitute to us once you arrogantly precipitate a situation you are not socio-economically prepared for. You did this with the civil war only to remain unrepentant today while still blaming the Yorubas for your loss.
The rest of you are "act rashly now and regret greatly later" with Igbos typifying this the most. While Yorubas are "act wisely always and have minimal regrets later". This is what a shallow mind, like yours, describe as "unity begging".
don't disturb yourself over these ignoramus, they have no plan or agenda for secession, its a blackmail tool to get more from the country. Igbos love Nigeria more than anybody. They just want to rule, that's all
Osagyefo98: I wonder what is really making you feel high in unity begging or think SW kicks the ground running in your dream.
Nigeria as a country is doomed and it is bound to fail and already failing. Nothing works here and will never work. Any opportunity to downplay the shit hole is most welcome.
only the Igbos think Nigeria is doomed because they can never rule over others
forgiveness: Aba has lots of potentials but unfortunately, over the years, being run by mediocre leaders.
However, infrastructures are in decay as I write.
thank God say na dem get and dey stay for Aba, if not they would have blame the SW too for their woes in Aba, no wonder na there ipob start from, a production of plunder and poverty
Tobrasky: Igbos dey go even Sudan... bros we go anywhere to hustle and return home to the East to "jaiye" with our boys thanking God for our mansions and other new projects of acquired taste and panache
hustle and covet other people's land while yours is in squalor, which sense dey that nah
Nowenuse: My state is not a pure reflection of my people because we have many Hausa fulanis and muslims settlers in our midst. Take away these retrogressive lots and we will be something like 75 where u can see the likes of Benue.
If we are to take the average of SS & SW, the SW will not be higher than the SS. Besides, Ekiti & Osun have a far smaller population of Yorubas compared to Oyo, Ondo & Ogun.
so you are a conquered territory you don dey talk true small small and you wan do secession from who? my friend, take back your locality first
Nowenuse: And why in hell should Igbos leave the SW?
They are only going to leave when they get independence.
In 1967 they left and we all brought them back to be with us.
So far so good the Igbos have shown that they truly believe that they are better off without Nigeria, while you Yorubas start bedwetting at the mention of the division of Nigeria
they left in 1967 and we all saw how hunger wire them, omo if they leave again, hunger will drive them back. They have no where to go jare and they are truly worse off without Nigeria, they are just too ashamed to admit
Tobrasky: All this stupid figure and charts una dey throw around sef, does an hungry man on the streets care about all the GDP or nominal growth nonsense when you're trying to explain to him why Nigeria is the giant of Africa? Anyone who has traveled to other parts of the SW outside of No man's land will appraise and see the extent of profound poverty that abounds there. Lots of so called urban areas in the SW constitute are old relics and buildings from the colonial era, dusty clusters of brown roofs interspersed by ravines of unwashed gutters, dirty looking women in hijabs and sweat-soaked agbadas that emit acidic putrid body odors, then naked kids in dirty torn underpants with mucous dripping from their noses... the stench of gutters juxtaposed with the unsavory smell of locust beans (iru), lafun and other disgusting ingredients they use to make their oily foods... everywhere is almost a mosque... does that image look like the rubbish they show you on their fake Ijebu paper statistics?
Nowenuse: Agenda my nyaash. You people that start shaking, shivering and catching could when Nnamdi Kanu was in Nigeria rallying and gaining popularity.
When Python dance came on Nnamdi Kanu your people were masturbating everywhere in orgasm and happiness.
If you Yorubas truly believe in yourselves, your superiority and self sufficiency, you guys would have been at the forefront on seccession agitations in Nigeria.
See Catalonia, they believe in themselves and know that they will do better without Spain and that is why they want out.
You Yorubas only brag about your self sufficiency online, but as soon as you hear Igbos seccession force hitting hard, you start pissing on your pants.
Actions speak louder than words, you guys are the biggest unity beggars in Nigeria.
Personally, my own group will soon start sponsoring pro seccession rallies from Jos to Kaduna to Nasarawa & Taraba, Abuja, Benue e.t.c.
I promise you guys will see this by latest next year. Then we will know who the true unity beggars are.
Cc Legendhero, Myobjective, forgiveness
guy we dey wait for your rally o, remember to bring it to the SW too, bunch of jokers. Nobody I repeat nobody apart from the SW has a plan or agenda for secession, the nnmadi kanu you dey yan, where is his agenda? no be to cash out e dey use biafra noise do? you guys must really be hungry to use rallies as a blackmail or avenue to cash out too. unserious things
Nowenuse: I also said that Covenant universitiy was 35% Yoruba, 35% Igbo, 20% SS and 10% Middlebeltees and so far so good the facts on ground are closer to mine than yours!
You claimed Yorubas outnumbered non-Yorubas in the school, you were even the one who brought the fvcking list! We did the counting and you lost! Now u are trying to save face. Abeg comot for here.
People like Legendhero learn from their comments and know what they are saying, but your likes are very very shameless who see facts in the face and still deny it.
Don't ever quote me again. You brought out a list with which u were defeated, instead of u to hide your face in shame, u are still talking.
see maradona style of backtracking, . it is so foolhardy to think there will be more non yorubas than yorubas in any sw university, what were you smoking in the first place?
Akanbiedu: Looks like the Hausa boys stayed away from this.
Yoruba boys, learn.
When you engage in back and forth with all these small small people, you lose. They have nothing to lose.
they are trying to change the narrative of our heritage and spreading it fast, if you know the damage they have done already, you will not say this. Their lies are being busted on this thread which is good for archives sake
Nowenuse: Kano & Kaduna can only be ahead of Plateau in financial rankings and in numbers of people cos both states have more indigenes than Plateau!
Besides, Kaduna is not a core northern state or Hausa land exclusively. That is the reason why Kaduna always beats Kano in any form of ranking.
Do u know that Kaduna state has more Christians than Plateau state?
Kano is the most developed part of Hausa land and the only part of Hausa land with anything reasonable. Check where Sokoto, Katsina, Zamfara, Jigawa, Yobe & Kebbi are in any of these rankings.
Politics › Re: What Does The S/west Produce That Compares With The North? by Goke7: 3:38pm On Apr 17, 2020
