₦airaland Forum

Osagyefo98:
North is economically viable than west.

Remove federal government presence in Lagos and watch it crumble.

That's why they always fight hard to protect it.

another dumb post, Lagos seized to be federal capital since 1991 so where is the federal presence?

Tobrasky:
Why should we leave a place we want to conquer? For once we might have to collabo with the Hausa/Fulani to get the job done, while the Fulani are killing your people in places like Ogun, Osun etc... our own focus is on taking over Lagos economically by any means possible.

You cannot conquer our heritage as you guys are a conquered entity yourself, go back and build your region and stop acting like spoilt brats who want ready-made all the time, so with all the hardworking you guys profess to have, its always to covet other people's stuff you are always after. You guys don't have an identity, sorry

Tobrasky:
Bros we've been hearing this assurance abi threat since 1900, when the the Odua race finally realize nobody is buying your sh*t anymore? You're the one holding the nation my left asscheek. Go to South South especially Port Harcourt and see how your brothers are criminalizing themselves with forgery and tribalism in the oil companies there, until the natives taught you idiots that you can't play your "Yoruba Yoruba" dirty and nepotistic nonsense of sneaking your brothers into top positions. You're the glue that holds the nation together yet your political destiny lies in the hands of a Fulani slave, I'm talking about the Tinubu. Have you seen how your brothers shamelessly back and cheer on the North on social media whenever any talk of secession is initiated by Igbos and other South South folks? You know your region benefits so much from the oil proceeds coming from the Niger Delta, that's how Lagos primarily became the mega city that it is today... that's why your lawmakers won't dare push for independent Yorubanza nation. What happened in the last national conference under GEJ? which regions lawmakers frustrated every move or notion for constitutional adjustments made to that effect? your people.

Listen to delusional Arrow, you had your chances at secession in 1967 when the foundation was at its weakest... But Awolowo sacrificed the freedom of his people because Gowon offered him a juicy position in his government, so that ship sailed a long time ago. NOW WE MUST ENJOY THESE ONE NIGERIA TOGETHER, more Igbos will flood your region and be a nuisance till you all drop dead from frustration, Hausas are already teaching you bastards a lesson in Lagos, try nonsense with then and they rampage through Lagos killing any Yoruba pig they see. If your people try any means to secede from Nigeria (whether through diplomatic manouvres or by force), you shall be ruthlessly crushed. We shall continue to feed off the wealth of your region and siphon the largesse from Lagos and other places back to the East

Hey guys, here comes the true agenda of the igbos, wish our elites and politicians can see this?

This is also an evidence that all the statistics they normally show on nairaland to prove that they are doing well more than the SW are all lies as there is finally and admittance that they need us to survive or else they are doomed.

My guy, if the SW wants to leave Nigeria, nothing I mean nothing can stop us, una go beg us with Presidency and all other freebies tire to change our mind which we will not.

Nowenuse:
Well, a Yoruba nation would not be a bad idea. I will support it wholeheartedly cos I wouldn't even want to be in a new country with the Yorubas. Igbos will not want you and u guys will never want to join Hausa fulanis.

Your best bet will be a country of your own.

Anyway, why don't u guys talk or promote seccession? You guys act as if you are enjoying this one Nigeria. Sometimes you even unity-beg. What is it that u guys are not telling?

igbos that has refused to leave the SW, mark my words, na dem go rush our citizenship pass anybody. We don't need to promote secession, anytime it happens we are most ready but others who claim they are ready are just lying and using it as a blackmail to get more from the so called country they loathe.

Nowenuse:
With the way you Yorubas make noise online, one would think that u so much believe in yourselves in real life and u are strongly pushing for the division of Nigeria, not knowing that u are the biggest unity beggars!

Unity beggars? you must be joking
the yorubas already have an agenda should Nigeria disintegrates, I tell you only the yorubas are truly ready if Nigeria divides, the SE shouting for biafra are not ready with their continuous dependence on SW for survival including the north that ordinary mention of amotekun, they could not sleep well again.

We are the ones holding this nation together and the day we are finally tired, you guys will be dazed

Nowenuse:
With the way you Yorubas make noise online, one would think that u so much believe in yourselves in real life and u are strongly pushing for the division of Nigeria, not knowing that u are the biggest unity beggars!

na nominal data the guy dey dish here since morning

omonnakoda:
Sure Orji Kalu banks with the World Bank

LegendHero:
Normally I would have stopped engaging him on this thread. Because it’s now getting irritating.

But the Yorubas have to also behave troublesome in this type of game. You don’t engage an Igbo man by trying to be calm and following protocol. No you can’t!!

What they always do is lie continuously with the hope that it will be remembered as the truth.

Now we will all go to extra length to debunk the lies even if we have to debunk the same thing a thousand times.

That’s how to deal with them.

the problem is the yorubas among us trying to always look nationalistic in their views and opinions, I used to be the one until I discovered the true agenda of the igbos. This is the issue with most of our Yoruba politicians, always trying to be nationalistic for their personal gains, meanwhile no single igbo politician or elite give a damn about the rest of Nigeria. This is why Awolowo will continue to be hated by the igbos cos he understood the game well. Tinubu is just gradually waking up after making some errors [especially as former governor] that has given these fellows too much mouth to continue to disparage the yorubas. It's left for yoruba elite class to adjust their focus and stop trying to form mr nice to the igbos when in turn, they wish Lagos and all other SW cities and the yorubas at large the worst of the worst. Am not deceived at all.

Cosbyrich:
The guy is an illiterate. Maybe from one of the poorest minorities in the North.

His people will be one of the lowliest in Nigeria.You can see that he is ashamed to same the name of his dingy tribe.He was jumping all over from Jos to Kano to Kaduna etc like a wounded pig.

dude is likely an igbo dude living in plateau, I know folks from the middle belt very well, they do not attack or post fake statistics like this

Livescores:
It time the great Yoruba people stop talking these people serious.

We have the best educational system.

Our region is the the centre for Commerce and Industries.

SW is the gateway to Nigeria.


We have the best economy.




Every one want to come to our region including the haters from the potopoto republic.

Laced with our religion and ethnic tolerance.

The aforementioned shows that we're doing well compared to our counterparts.

reason I said earlier they need the SW more than we need them, they are just too proud to admit that

Livescores:
I stopped taking Mr Nowenuse serious the moment he said Plateau will join their imaginary Biafra rep.

Imagine Plateau jumping Nassarawa state to join the potopoto republic.

How stupid one can be.

the guy must be an igbo dude pretending to be from the middle belt to deflect more thrashing, e dey their blood

Nowenuse:
You, Covidodo, Metaphysical & Omonnakoda are the slowest and mentally lowest Yorubas on nairaland. Abeg make una nor dey tag me.

Only people like Legendhero & Myobjective have something upstairs.

Where did I ever say the SMEs were the ones who made Lagos what they are?
I said the SMEs support and give income to the majority of Lagosians! And it is with this income that Lagosians patronize the big industries in their midst.

Are the big industries the ones patronizing themselves?

Without the large population of consumers in Lagos, do u think some of these industries would cite their factories in Lagos? Or don't u know that nearness to market is one of the major factors considered in the citing of an industry?

Without the SMEs there would be no large consumer population in Lagos, without the Large consumer population, there would be no much industries in Lagos. As simple as ABC.
Sebi Awo give una free education na, why then are u people making me stress myself in explanation? Shuooo!

is this the way you want to go now?[b][/b] throwing insults

Barbilius:
I go just dey laugh dem, I was watching channels TV sometimes back and thy were reporting from Osogbo, one of those they asked to air opinions was of their tribe, I just shook my head, the same Osun state they love to diss online, so they can stoop so low to live there, classless folks. Can't wait for the disintegration of Nigeria, their massive exodus from our land will be a joy to behold.

dem full osun die because of the low cost of living there. No one can tell me lies online. Igbos are just being deceptive about the narratives about our SW cities that are better governed than their shitholes in the east and yes I mean it, shitholes

Anambralstson:
Need Yoruba indeed, please mention what Igbos need Yorubas for?

read my osun story again

Barbilius:
Exactly, we have slacked too much in this forum and the internet generally, and have allowed them to push their false narratives. Imagine, bloody Igbos calling others dirty, there is no market they inhabit in Yorubaland that is not dirty. Festac that was given to them in neat condition is now in derelict state now in just less than 3 decades, yet they open their maggot infested mouth to call others dirty. They rant all day of how Lagos is a slum, yet buses heading for Lagos won't stop loading from their villages. Bloody vagabonds

omo they wreck festac no be small just because it was under the purview of FG.

The igbos need the SW more, despite am yoruba, iserved in osun and i know how the igbo corpers confess to some of us yorubas in secret how food and so many other things were more accessible and affordable than their home towns, so many of them stayed back in osogbo for that matter till today. I met a guy then as far back as 2006 when i served who had been living in osogbo 10 years after he served doing computer business and even married a yoruba girl. The ones making noise on nairaland are just ignorant folks who don't want to admit their undying love for yorubaland.

The Igbos need us more than we need them, simple

Nowenuse:
Kano is a very very big trading center.
Ibadan cannot match the volume of trade in Kano.
Kano has the biggest markets for Jewelleries, Textiles & fabric materials, Livestocks, Foodstuffs, Hides & skins among others in Nigeria.

Kano also has so many industries, but Ibadan will slightly edge it here.

Hausa fulanis are the 2nd most enterprising people in Nigeria after Igbos.

Do u know that Kano had been a cosmopolitan city even before the arrival of colonialists? Do u know the numbers of Arab, Egyptian, Tuareg, Berber and even Persian traders who lived in and visited Kano before colonial rule?

Ibadan only began to shine during colonial rule. So your talk of 1880s is a far lie.
Can u prove it?

I have the book on NORTHERN PROVINCES, TRIBES AND EMIRATES compiled by colonialists in 1910 and you can see the numbers of Arabs and other foreigners in their thousands who lived in Kano by that time.

Make una Yoruba take style dey lie oo!

Although as someone who dislikes Hausa fulanis, I am not interested in hyping anything about them or defending them.
Unfortunately, the mugu Abokkis we have here on nairaland like Naajji & DanArrewa do not even know anything about their so called North. They are empty heads.

you are just full of contradictions, the same kano you told me earlier is full of illiterates?

Grayoso:
@Nowenuse.

Bro you are not as well-traveled as you need to be on the road to knowledge and understanding. Mark my word, when you reach the right junction of knowledge someday, you will acknowledge that Yorubas are a specific link of sanity, equity and succour for Nigeria all others take for granted to include you.

the guy is only trying to hype his people, nothing more. He knows the truth but as usual they always hype their own heritage to level up. He was trying to compare Ibadan and Jos before he dropped it and jump to kaduna, then he picked up the illorin own to try and disparage yorubas, he will continue to dance around to feel good about himself which is understandable

The greatness of the yorubas is there for the whole word to see. Its just up to us to defend our own heritage by countering the lies these fellows spew especially in a faceless forum like this.

Nowenuse:
Do u know that almost every family in Lagos or urban southern Nigeria has at least someone who owns a business?

From boutique owners to Saloon owners, Cybercafes, Restaurants, Betting shops, Foodstuff shops & provision stores which you have 20 on every street, Spare part sellers, Phone accessories, Phone & recharge card sellers, small scale manufacturers like Sachet & bottled water & snacks like chips/popcorn, nylon/polythene manufacturers, tailors & fashion designers, butchers, beauticians, livestock rearers, road transporters, mechanics, vulcanizers, computer schools & centers, private education sector, market wholesalers & distributors, importers, food transporters e.t.c

Down to the lowest of the society like Head hawkers, Wheelbarrow hawkers, Roadside food & snacks preparers like Akara, Mama put, Wheelbarrow & truckpushers and all manners.

Can every family in Lagos have someone who is employed by the big industries in Lagos? But bros, not one family in Lagos will say they don't have someone involved in the SMEs!
In some families, everyone survives on SMEs. The father could be a driver, the mother has a restaurant, the first son is a Barber with a saloon and the daughter is selling recharge card.

You are saying there won't be unemployment in Lagos if SMEs were helpful? Take away SMEs from Lagos and see if we will not have the largest urban humanitarian crisis in the world.

Sometimes, you guys must not tell lies in a bid to defend your ethnic group....

How can any sane or rational Nigerian say that the big Industries employ more people than the SMEs?

jesu, egbami o so na barbing salon and buka dey make Lagos? what manner of blasphemy. we are talking about what is making Lagos so thick that foreigners can't resist and you de talk about mama put, na mama put make mark zukaberg or Dorsey, twitter boss visit Lagos? what a joke. The big industries in Lagos is what set it apart from other cities in Nigeria and that is why the average graduate anywhere in Nigeria relocates to Lagos in search of those industries to work

BoboNkiti19:
What level of academic and intellectual achievements have you attained that the Igbos haven't already had in the bag? you do know we can go on about this for as long as possible, but when you are asked to bring your own facts, you start going off on a different tangent. How exactly are Igbos lagging behind you guys?

the igbos are lagging behind and you guys know this even with all the chest beating

BoboNkiti19:
Those areas you mentioned are slums dude, why do you guys keep faking all these poshness when we have traveled and seen your region in its entirety? stop these nonsense abeg, only Lagos is the best thing you guys have got to offer.

slums? pls don't go there, we know where the slums truly are in Aba

LegendHero:
Bro, let me tell you something you don't know. The greatest asset of the Yoruba nation is the intellectual resources. That is why we are better and why we will excel in any endeavor we find ourselves in.

How do countries get the food they don't produce? They import!

Even the Agriculture that the North always shout that they own. I was going through the NBS statistics of Nigeria Agriculture exports for Q3 2019 and you can see that the SW is a region to beat. We are part of the zone that contibute to the Agric export as evident in the cocoa and even certain shares of Cashew nuts.

What is Agriculture without Agri-economics? What is hardwork without brain power? Those are what distinguishes the middle-belt and the Yorubas.

Source:NBS

This is what the igbos and others in Nigeria continue to debate and still lag behind the SW in this

Nowenuse:

Lol, do you think you have travelled Nigeria more than I have?

Oga, apart from a few core northern states, there is no other state in Nigeria that I have not been to.

Bros, forget that Ilorin speaking Yoruba of a thing.

The fulani Emirs in Nupeland speak Nupe and can hardly speak Hausa, but it doesn't change the fact that they are of fulani ancestry and owe their allegiance to the Sultan of Sokoto.

All the Emirs in the NW, how many of them can speak Fulfude? Does that stop them from being fulanis?

It seems like you people have still not understood how Fulanis operate in Nigeria ooo.

because you have been the one driving round every town I have visited in Nigeria abi?

if its even Ilorin you are talking about then you are ignorant, forgiveness has answered this very well for you, just read his post and get more educated

Nowenuse:
Later now, you people will say I am the one arguing based on emotions.

So you truly believe that in Lagos State, the Industries employ more people than the SMEs?

do you know how many industries are in Lagos, there are industries in Lagos people don't know about but they employ thousands at a go. SMEs no get mouth for Lagos and that's the hidden secret of Lagos. The Maritime Industry in Lagos alone employs a very large pool that thousands of SMEs together cannot match. We never talk of FMCG that will swallow what ever number the SMEs have.

if SMEs in Lagos are really employing, the unemployment rate in Lagos will go down very quickly, The only SMEs in Lagos that are trying are private schools that employ teachers and other auxiliary staff like bus drivers and care givers ; they are the ones helping matters.

Nowenuse:
Hei God. Yes, Kano city is a big cosmopolitan city, but you cannot compare it to a Southern/Middlebelt city of similar size due to the culture and nature of the people there!!

No part of Hausa land has majority of it's people educated. Or do u want to argue on this fact now?
How else do u want Kano to be different? Yes, there are settlers in Kano, but what percentage of the population are these settlers compared to the Hausa fulanis?

What is the literacy rate of Kano? What is the percentage of middle-class citizens there?

Can you compare the more educated and middle-class citizens of a place like PH, their purchasing power and consumption taste of varieties with that of a place like Kano city where almajiris alone make up 25% of the city's population?
Or do u think Kano is just the central developed area alone?

what a contradiction, you agree Kano is cosmopolitan and you say majority are illiterates. Your definition of illiteracy is the problem. A city that has such massive volume of trade, the largest in the north cannot be term as a city that has majority of illiterates,never never. Illiterates plenty for Lagos too o

LegendHero:
Yes, Nowenuse is intelligent in terms of the ethnicity in Nigeria and some info about tribes.

However, in this type of discussion, he is always clouded by sentiments and he displays the emotional attitude of the Igbo even tho he is from the middle-belt.

He likes dishing out ridiculous statistics that has no source except his own thinking or hearsay from someone. That is my own problem with him.

it is nairaland that is beclouding his sense of reason with the lies ibos spew here

BoboNkiti19:
Bro Jos beats anywhere in your region outside of Lagos HANDS DOWN, abeg don't even go there! Do you or have you traveled out of your enclave before?

in what area abeg? fineness or what? I have been to Jos but have you been to non state capitals in the sw like ondo town, Ilesha, Sagamu, Ijebu-ode, Ife, offa, ogbomoso, oyo, ota and so on. You guys see pictures on nairaland and conclude only Lagos is the only city in south west. na wa for una

LegendHero:
Again the bolded is nonesense. I have told you on the other thread to engage me about Jos and Ibadan but you keep evading me.

Let us open a thread now and use strictly google earth to compare the best part Jos city and Ibadan city. If jos beats Ibadan in terms of Infrastructure, planning, beauty from space, etc. I will deactivate my Nairaland Moniker.

We will use strictly google earth to compare the two and you we can open a separate thread. Are you game?

omo , jos beat Ibadan ke, most cities in the SW outside Lagos are just underrated, even Ilesha that is not a state capital is much developed than many towns in Nigeria, most of them don't travel, they only rely on pictures on nairaland

totit:
He sounds a bit intelligent though but it's obvious he smokes weed a lot.

LegendHero did well schooling the dude albeit, but he seems to be delusional.


The dude reason like an average ibo troll on NL. I think he is after all.

I think the younger ibo generation are not properly schooled about Nigeria, they've been fed with so much lies and don't seem to understand the country they live in and and the people they live with. What a tragedy of a major tribe

Nowenuse:
During the military era, were Yoruba states not ruled by Hausa fulani rulers? Did that destroy or change the people living there?

Hausa fulanis are only ruling Kaduna because of Zaria, divide the state and who will be there?

Was an Ebira man not the governor of Yoruba majority Old Kwara state?
Are Fulanis not the kingmakers in Kwara state?

Jos is destroyed, but it looks better and even attracts more foreigners than all other Yoruba cities apart from Igbo economically controlled Lagos. And your filthy Yoruba people will still never leave Jos no matter how much they are killed.
Who is the joke on now?

pls which economy are igbos controlling in Lagos? what a joke

Nowenuse:
Ilorin a Yoruba town is still being ruled by an Emir till today till tomorrow, shame no dey catch una?
Kaduna & Jos are the 2 biggest cities owned by Northern christians, can u show me an Emir there?

Hausa fulanis cannot withstand Northern christians united and they know it, but you and them will destroy each other over Ilorin, watch it.

Ilorin is a yoruba city and will remain so, even the emir there na yoruba, whatever narrative you have been told is your own headache and have you seen anybody who hails from Ilorin speaking any other language than yoruba?

My guy you need to travel, nairaland has fed you with so much lies

Nowenuse:
You Southerners have become heavily urban over the years. How many Southerners will be willing to go back to crude farming right now? Unless it is mechanized farming.
And unless you Yorubas get your own country, I don't see anyone in Yorubaland investing in Mechanized agriculture when the North is still there.

See bros, unless your future Oodua country's govt is desperately interested in investing in Agriculture against all odds, otherwise it will be futile. Cos think of it, Northern agriculture which will always be next door will always be cheaper than Yorubaland agriculture. Cos we have the vast, larger swathes of cheaper fertile land compared to you guys, we also have cheaper labour.

The average Yoruba youth has been captured by the glamour of Western lifestyle and everyone wants to blow and drive a Benz, that's why if it is not Yahoo or Runs. Forget if for the average Yoruba youth.

do you know how many yorubas are involved in mechanized farming? is it because they don't post their pictures on nairaland?

Nowenuse:
Bros, never underestimate the power of SMEs in Lagos. Lagos State govt to the best of my knowledge collects their taxes from these SMEs very very well.
Lagos State is one state that does not play with taxes and we all know this.

80% of Lagos State population depends on the SME sector for survival. If not for this sector that gives them income, do you think they will have any money to be able to patronize the products of these big industries?

Will all these big industries not pack up without patronage? Can the industries patronize themselves? Let's be honest and factual.

SMEs don't make Lagos, Industries do my dear, how may employees these SMEs employ and how much do these EMEs employees earn for Lagos to make huge revenue from their personal income taxes?

The bigger industries employees with huge salaries are the ones with enough disposable income to afford what the industries produce