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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:40am On Jan 30, 2017
forgiveness:
Ex-Arsenal Super Kid Aneke Continues To Make Headlines With Another Brace For MK Dons

Published: January 28, 2017

Ex-Arsenal Super Kid Aneke Continues To Make Headlines With Another Brace For MK Dons
Chuks Aneke bagged a brace in Milton Keynes Dons’ 4-0 rout of Peterborough United at ABAX Stadium on Saturday.

The season did not start well for the former Arsenal wonderkid as he missed the first eighteen games because of an injury he sustained while in Belgium with SV Zulte Waregem.

On 74 minutes, Aneke scores a thunderbolt from the edge of the box before firing home with six minutes left on the clock to give MK Dons a four-goal lead.

After going scoreless in his first eight matches across all competitions, Aneke’s brace against The Posh took his tally to four goals in his last two appearances in the English third-tier.

The 23-year-old was on the radar of the Nigeria Football Federation prior to his move to Belgium.


http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/869472718?-21310:8643:0 h

I believe this boy is very good. We need to give him a chance.
I believe Chuks Aneke is good enough to be playing in a mid table Premiership team. Its a pity injuries have held him down for so long.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 2:19pm On Jan 29, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
Bia Safarigirl.... we have to also commend the one who always followed TheGoodJoe bumper to bumper with relentless replies.... He's theGoodJoe's Fiercest opponent in the Discourse and debate arena..... He's Sir Goldfish80 himself... grin

This man knows how to drag it long with TheGoodJoe.....

Their arguments can take days or even weeks..... Chaaiiiii... Reminds one of the legendary almost endless battle between Archilles of Greece and Hector of Troy....

For 500 pages milestone.... Oya take ya own too.... grin grin wink

https://s2.quickmeme.com/img/f0/f091e8357bab940a7f4013d2cdcdf51dcf081a8b57148f2e17c072ad30154d14.jpg
When TheGoodJoe drops his usual bombshells, I just can't help myself grin
This thread is a good tonic for hypertension. Shout out to everyone in the house.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 2:13pm On Jan 29, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

When I listed City main problems, I listed defenders. They are aging. After my comment are you not seeing changes? With Sane, Gabriel Jesus and Sterling, that is a younger force. Our major problem lies behind with Zabaleta, Sagna, Kompany, Kolarov, Clichy. Coupled with Yaya Toure and Fernandinho. All over thirty. Guardiola is doing a good job getting them to perform. That does not mean they are not aging.

The debate was Liverpool who I believe has a better side.
LOL.. So typical. Just because Man city won last night. Had it been they drew or lost you will claim they lost because of their age. Like against Everton.

The PR you do for man city is worth millions of dollars grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:28pm On Jan 29, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

Apart from Ozil and Sanchez, the rest players of Arsenal you listed there, including Iwobi will bench at City. Is it Ramsey or Xhaka that will bench Fernandinho and De Bruyne. Is it Giroud and Walcott that will bench Aguero and Silva.


As for Owen, he is analysing off point. Pellegrini did not give Iheanacho enough chances until it was late. Unlike Pellegrini, Guardiola plays with one striker upfront. Pellegrini played two, so when things got hard, he could bring in Nacho. I said it before, in that particular game, Liverpool played the same time. Owen did not watch the game and was talking from watching the highlights of the goals Iheanacho missed.
Sheybi you said Man city were ageing. How come they are all better than the younger arsenal players.
The way you contradict yourself is entertaining to watch, pure comedy gold grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:28am On Jan 29, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
No room for favoritism. Play the best that suits the system. Mandzukic agrees he does not fit. Why play him ahead of those who fit because he is top goalscorer. That is a sentimental choice.
Please this isn't about tactics or favorism.
Someone asked for a proof that Pep dropped Manzukic deliberately because he didn't want him to win the league top scorer award.
He probably thought I made it up. I dropped the link so he could see for himself.

If you want to make a discussion about tactics, am up for it.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:53pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

"I had great time in Bayern, but let's be honest, the style of game forced by coach Josep Guardiola does not suit me," Mandzukic told the Sportske Novosti daily. "No matter how hard I try I cannot see myself in that kind of football and I cannot give my best. Since that's the case, the best is to separate."


Even Mandzukic believed he did not suit Guardiola's system and he could not give his best. The same person feels because he leads the top goal scorers chart, he must start a game. That is petty to me.
As a professional, Manzukic laboured through the season in an unfavourable system and scored 26 goals.
A manager going out of his way to bench such an asset because he doesn't want him to win the top scorer is *#/£*. Excuse me.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:23pm On Jan 28, 2017
Lazyerudite:
Many managers have their choices, that does not make them bad. It just means the player can move up to better climes. Even the great Sir Alex Ferguson had his own, Mou etc.. So claiming he is a bad manager is really not fair. He does not Favour nacho, fine another coach will. Even Eto get him own o. So no be today. And your Madzukich claim has no backings. Before you can accuse him if such you need facts
There's a difference between being a good coach and a good man manager. Guardiola is a good coach but a bad manager.

About Manzukic.... You can hear from the horses mouth....
"Referring to his omission from the 16-man squad for the cup final against Borussia Dortmund, which Bayern won 2-0, Mandzukic added: 'Guardiola decided not to play me because he didn't want me to finish as leading goalscorer, so he did not let me play towards the end of the season.

'It wasn't really important but it did show the lack of respect he had towards me.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2812699/Pep-Guardiola-disrespectful-deserved-better-insists-Mario-Mandzukic.html


I don't go about making wild accusations. Guardiola is as petulant as they come.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 5:26pm On Jan 28, 2017
AIG07:
@ Sir. Goldfish80
you don read the man's body language.

Don't worry. Pep is keeping him out of local games just to make our boy safe for champions league-you know how important he is to pep's project.
LOL.. Na today? I know what Lord Master Pep is all about. I blew the whistle on this thread when he signed for city.
I remember saying he is not a good man manager and TheGoodJoe went to the wires with me.

Behind that charming, handsome man on his shinny tuxedo, you have a very wicked man.
A man who didn't speak with Eto'o for a whole year. A striker who got him 35+ goals durring the season.
A man who benched Manzukich towards the end of the season, just to make sure he didn't end up winning the top goal scorer in Bundesliga.

I won't say more on this topic. I stand down.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 4:57pm On Jan 28, 2017
That's 2 straight games without making a match day squad. No explanations, just the usual Pep Guardiola silence.
Kelechi should move far away from this man.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 4:45pm On Jan 28, 2017
denniece1:
Abeg who is watching the match, Is Gabriel Jesus also playing from the wing today?
Cc TheGoodJoe
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:25pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

Let it be known, I want players where they want to play. Not against their wishes.
Osaze's joy ride to QPR on transfer deadline day to force a move. Where did that leave him?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:21pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

Breach what? I do not want it to reach the level of Breaching contract. If he wants to go, open the door and wave good bye.

No need to force him against his wishes.
When foreign clubs avoid signing Nigerian players because of a reputation of breach of contracts and going awol to push through a transfer, please do not complain.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:17pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

Like WTF. What does money grabbing have to do with not holding a player against his wishes?

If a player wants to go, let him go. I only want those who are loyal to the Cityzens badge.
Let it be on record that you support a player going awol to force a move. This will certainly be used against you in future.
You know how we roll cool
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:15pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
My comment is simple. I do not want City holding a player against his wishes. I always want players devoted to the team.

As for Osaze, you have no shred of evidence. Nothing. Zero, zilch, no comprende. Just allegations.
In a civilised environment, you don't do what you like when you're on a contract. If Aguero repeatedly fails to turn up for training and other club engagements, man city reserves the rights to report him to CAS for breach of contract. That could be the end of his career.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:12pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Guardiola already explained that it is up to Aguero to decide if he wants to stay or go. If he wants to leave, I do not want the club holding him back. AWOL is even too far.
Obviously you know very little about contracts. This your comment shows you're no different from the average money grabbing Nigerian agents.
This is how they wrecked Samuel Chukwueze's potential move to Arsenal.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:10pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

As I said, assumptions. You have no shred of evidence Osaze is involved in the deal.
If Aguero went Awol just to force through a move to Juventus. What would be your comment?

Wait for it to be written in black and white before you know Osaze has a stake in this deal. Some of us are ahead of the game.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:03pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

You want to make points based on assumptions and what you feel. If Eupen counters the reports, it is different. For now, we work with what we know.

As for Osaze, you have no link to say he is involved. Still assumptions.
A smart person will figure out that for Osaze to be vocal about this deal, then he must be getting something. I can tell you Osaze is quite influential and popular in Belgium.

You doged the allegory I made with man city. Please do justice to that question.

Henry has a contract with Eupen till 2019 or there about. I hope you know?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 2:57pm On Jan 28, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
Bros i see myself as a free thinker but even that one goes to far in my book. And no one sees it strange that the boy is taking advice from Osaze.
Osaze is definitely going to get a cut from the Celtic deal. When my cousin tried out at Stoke. I know what happened.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 2:52pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Eupen are ready to let Onyekuru go. Are you not reading the articles? They want him to go to a club that is not the choice of Onyekuru and his agent.

I wish there was a better solution but the shady Eupen are the unprofessional ones. If all clubs behave this way, Professional football will become a mess.
The articles I read online are mostly pushed out by Onyekuru's people.
Nobody have heard from Eupen's end of the story. As a matter of fact, the little coming our from Eupen is that they do not want to sell their best player when they are facing relegation fight.

Henry's act is unprofessional. Is it because Eupen is a "small club"? Imagine if Aguero went awol just to push a deal to Bayern Munich, what will you say in that senerio?

Where in the world have you heard a club forcing an agent on a player? If you have actually thought this through, you will know Henry's agent is being shaddy here.
Something tells me that Celtic have financially induced Henry's agent.

Henry already have a reputation as being a selfish player, this sort of publicity shows him off as being selfish not just only on the football pitch.

Osaze could be involved in this Celtic deal. His finger prints are all over the place.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 2:01pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

As for Me, I condemn Eupen for going back on their words to let him go. The young man wants to go and they went back on their words. That is totally unprofessional of Eupen. Coupled with them trying to sideline Onyekuru's agent.
You actually believe Eupen promised to let him go in January transfer window?
And you actually support a player going on strike because he wouldn't get his wish to transfer to another club?
In essence his contract with Eupen is as worthless as a tissue paper?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 1:21pm On Jan 28, 2017
The news about Henry Onyekuru going awol is one which every football lover should condemn. Its totally un professional and ill adviced. This sort of behaviour doesn't represent Nigeria and what we stand for in good light.
This supposed strike action of his could hurt the chances of other young Nigerian players back home and those trying to climb the ladder in Europe.

Even the club who he's running to would have reservations about signing a machinery who will back off when things aren't going his way. If he can go on strike at just 19,what would happen when you give him a multi million dollar contract?
It would be in his best interest to sort things out with Eupen and return to office as quickly as possible.
Where was Celtic when he was in Qatar?

I have a feeling, Eupen have a gentleman's agreement with Redbull lipzig for a summer transfer. A deal that will allow him dig in and help Eupen survive the drop.
And for what it's worth, Redbull Lipzig is a better club in a decent environment for a young lad like Henry.

Getting to work with a top class manager like Ralph Ragnick who was part of the cast of manager who revolutionized German football (Volker Finke is the other guy) could prove to be the master stroke.

Staying a few months in Belgium to get a right move wouldn't hurt him at all.
I stand down.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:08pm On Jan 26, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
___________________Nacho____________________
____Oshimhen______________________V. Moses_____
___________________Iwobi _____________________
__________Mikel ___________Chidi Nwakali______________
__Oshaniwa ________________________Fabian
senninger
______________Balogun______Ekong______________
___________________Ikeme_______________________

With Etebo in the squad, Mikel takes the ten role while Iwobi plays from the left. The only challenge is, Iwobi does not fit my pacy forwards preference.
See what I did there?
I helped you choose your boys grin

Honourable mention goes to Usman Mohammed and Umar
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m):
zicky:
we should forget the bad officiating against Senegal but point to the one against S/A(are you for real?). I think the list has to do with national team and not club football, so I don't see where sundown come into play, if we go your angle then England should be in World top 5 team.
You just nitpicked some points I raised to form a general conclusion which is unfair.
If you read my post holistically, you have noticed I tried to eliminate officiating and judge the teams on balance of play.

Against Burkina Faso, they dominated Burkina for long periods till somehow the home team rallied to pull an undeserved draw.
Against Senegal, it was the same story. They out played Senegal based on the balance of play. If you actually watched that game, I challenge you to say otherwise.

Finally, you have to understand the strength of a league reflects on the national team. Especially for a country whose national team depends on their league for players.
When Ahly nationale were rulling Africa, Egypt dominated the AFCON for 3 editions. DRC have dominated the champions league with TP Mazembe and they have 2 CHANs to show for it. Their national team is one of the best in Africa at the moment. Same can be said about South Africa. There's a relationship between the league and the national team.
It's easy to call out Ingurland but people don't usually point out Germany, Spain, France, Argentina, and the likes who have solid leagues and solid national teams.

People may laugh it off when I say this, but had Christian Chukwu blended in more Enyimba players in his Afcon squad of 2004 and 2006,we would have won the those editons easily.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:01pm On Jan 25, 2017
promzyphyno:
They missed d two penalties,d goal came frm a goal mouth scramble
Thanks for pointing that out, my memory was abit fuzzy. The officiating of that game was simply bad.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:53am On Jan 25, 2017
Icon4s:
South Africa. A country that would bring their 'A' game when they face a very strong opposition. But you find them crumbling when they play teams like Mauritania, Sierra-Leone or Gambia.

Morocco may not have done anything worthy of note in the last 10 years, just also like Algeria, Senegal, DR Congo, Mali and the likes. But if you are a very keen follower of African football, which I know you are, you will know what Morocco are capable of.
I agree with your first paragraph however, I feel their game have evolved having watched them over the past few years.

Your second paragraph, some of those countries you mentioned have achieved more than Morocco in recent past.
Mali have made a couple of semi finals appearances and U17 WC finals.
Algeria qualified for 2010/14 world cups.
DRC are the Chan defending champions and they won the first edition. TP Mazembe are perennial African champions. The success their national team have enjoyed is as a result of their Chan and champions league achievements.
Senegal have been Senegal, they have always made it to the later stages of Afcon.

Morocco on the other hand have not made it past the group stage of Afcon since 2004. That's a solid 11 years. That's damn to long.
It's a pity how much they've declined. I don't consider them a force in African football anymore. Yes dry bones shall rise again but till then.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:45am On Jan 25, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
add Laffour and Castro. The only South Africans that played a major role were Keegan Dolly and Percy Tau (whom i feel to be SA's best players at the moment). The big goals against Zamalek came from Laffour. Billiat scored them their all important goal in Zambia against Zesco. Onyango was a rock for them in goal.
Close to 90% of the Sundown team are South Africans. Even their coaching crew.
Billiat, the Liberian guy and Onyango were the only foreigners who started that finals. The rest were South Africans.
You cannot compare them with TP Mazembe who starts 8 foreigners in their starting 11.

SA are a few tweaks from hitting the top in Africa. If not for the murder of the formidable keeper/captain Senzo, they would have been much closer to the top. It appears they have moved on after all from that terrible loss.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:35am On Jan 25, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
I still think they could beat Egypt. That group was not easy at all, they are a younger team but if u watched them u can't deny their talent.
The only promising player I saw there was Franck Kessie. Even though he struggled due to big tournament experience.
The other lot were just average. Kalou had a good tournament, I think.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:32am On Jan 25, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
South Africa does not have the quality of players to compete with the big dogs. They mostly have to wait on an off year to strike. All credit to the sundowns but both their key players(Billiat, Oyango) are not South African. Also Senegal got cheated in South Africa and I can't see them even competing with this team. Senegal held Algeria with their team B, I don't see much hype in that.
If you watched the game, SA actually out played Senegal. The penalty call was wrong but based on the ball of play SA were very impressive. Senegal started pressuring just 10mins to full time when after they got 1 goal.

SA were also cheated in Burkina Faso. The referee gave Burkina Faso two controversial penalties in stoppage time before they could tie the game. They missed the first one.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:25am On Jan 25, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
South Africa does not have the quality of players to compete with the big dogs. They mostly have to wait on an off year to strike. All credit to the sundowns but both their key players(Billiat, Oyango) are not South African. Also Senegal got cheated in South Africa and I can't see them even competing with this team. Senegal held Algeria with their team B, I don't see much hype in that.
If a team of 22 players have just 2 key players who aren't natives, then am impressed.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:24am On Jan 25, 2017
Icon4s:
South Africa? You even Rank them ahead of Nigeria in ur top 10 list. We are not talking about league structure/organization. We are talking about the strength of the senior national teams. Before I will even list South Africa I would mention countries like: Mali, Burkina Faso, Zambia and Guinea. And the Congo on your list is it Congo DR or PR Congo. You did not include Morocco on your list but they did needful last night.
My list compilation was in no particular order. Sorry I dint point that out.

I think South Africa have made some giant strides in the past few years. They deserve to be in company of Africa's best teams.
Their team is relatively young and I see an upward trajectory going by the standard of their league which is being reflected in the Caf champions league. If Countries like Zambia, Zimbabwe, Uganda owe their recent improvements to the PSL, how about South Africa themselves who owns the league?

I watched SA play against Burkina in Ouagadougou, they should have won that gave if not for the dubious penalty call in stoppage time. Against Senegal, they dominated the Teranga lions for long periods. Let's forget about the controversial referee call in their favour but based on the balance of play, they deserved the win.

I deliberately left out Maroc because they haven't done anything worthy of note in football at any level for the past 10 yrs. Absolutely nothing. Even down to their clubsides. They aren't just there yet, infact I would rather have Cape Verde than Morocco. Technically the Cape verdians have been more successful than Morocco over the past few years,they were ranked inside the top 30 just last year.
A fluke win against a fledgling Ivorian side counts as nothing after all these years, in my opinion.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:34pm On Jan 24, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
There goes my pick.
LOL.. Not so long ago, you were boasting how they will decimate Egypt and stroll to the Crown.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:29pm On Jan 24, 2017
tbaba1234:
In the case of Onyekuru, many of the links to him can be found on other sites.

I doubt Liverpool though, no way they can get a work permit.
Almost all the links to Liverpool goes back to owngoalnigeria.com
A Merseyside based blog tagged them as a "dubious website" in their report of the story
http://www.thisisanfield.com/2017/01/rumour-mill-liverpool-linked-teenage-nigerian-winger-henry-onyekuru/

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