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chrisooblog:
yes it's too soon to label diego costa world class. has he done for spain? no! has he been consistently good in champions league? no! let him continue with his current form for the next 3-4 years then we can review our discussion. anybody can be a local champion next thing you will say godfrey chitalu is world class because he scored 127 goals in zambian league. RVP justified his world class status by winning something that's the point you are refusing to acknowledge what's the point of being an exceptional player if you can't influence your club or country to win something. sorry did you say hleb was absolute class? please bring up his stats at arsenal that made him so exceptional

i also rate cazorla, carrick is well respected, joe hart was a legend at man city but no one outside their team mates or fans will call them world class. if you see the shot wey taiye taiwo left leg dey tear you sef go fear

BascoVanVeli:
Rangers played to a 1 all draw in Algeria, all that is needed is to finish the job in Enugu. Good luck to Rivers, IUFC and Wiki's.

chrisooblog:
actually that 1994 AFCON was part of what brought him to limelight. he was included in the team of the tournament.

it is rare for a world class player to want to remain in one club and be a big fish in a small pond. if a player chooses to remain with that small club he will win them trophies case in point maradona went to a modest napoli and almost single handedly won titles for them. any player can shine in any domestic league but it is your overall contribution in other competitions like world cups, euros, champions league etc that will show your standing in world football. if i go by your argument then jardel and kevin philips are world class because they were goal kings for porto and sunderland respectively.

aside batistuta not many will agree that the names you mentioned are world class except their team mates and fans.

forgiveness:
Yesterday, I saw the reply of Everton match against Jordan Ibe's club and I had the time to assess Ademola-lookman and Jordan Ibe.

Ademola-lookman started while Jordan Ibe came on in the second half.

From my assessment of lookman's play, he seems to be another Jay Jay Okocha. I hope una understand wetin I mean. He is very skilful and has a very good ball control but he is not direct, he is not good at marking, in short he doesn't know how to mark or defend and it seems he is shy away from the ball. I mean he doesn't seem to want the ball. Although, whenever he has the ball he makes unbelievable moves and he can shoot from long range.


My conclusion is that lookman could go places if he can add some parts to his game. Of course, he will definitely learn these things if he is giving game time to improve himself.

This lad must be capped by us before it's too late because I am seeing another Dele Alli in that guy.

However, Jordan Ibe is very direct and he doesn't shy away from the ball. He is full of running and he loves to give through passes. I hope we forgive him and give another chance to play for us.

TheGoodJoe:

I still do not understand his love for Roma. Real Madrid wanted him and his status was perfect for the galacticos of Madrid. It was always Roma for Totti and at the end he got the god-like status he craved for. A Nigerian based in Italy once told me that in Rome, after the Pope is Totti.

TheGoodJoe:

I still do not understand his love for Roma. Real Madrid wanted him and his status was perfect for the galacticos of Madrid. It was always Roma for Totti and at the end he got the god-like status he craved for. A Nigerian based in Italy once told me that in Rome, after the Pope is Totti.

TheGoodJoe:

A player like Totti once can count as nothing because he had superb ability. No need for forgiveness. People expected a lot when Totti burst into the scene.

chrisooblog:
Okocha won 1994 AFCON Na! Plus Okocha being world class is debatable please give me more credible names

chrisooblog:
That is why I mentioned Club or country you might be unlucky not to win something with your Club and win with your country and vice versa but no self-respecting world-class player would lose out on both if not name one world-class player who has not won neither a club or national team trophy

joseph1013:
Can I take your bet if you promise you won't do lakesidepapa on me?

TheGoodJoe:
Totti

Honours

Totti's footprint on The Champions Promenade in Monaco.
Club
Roma
Winners (5)
Serie A (1): 2000–01

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Totti


Your arguing with someone who watched the final games and watched Ronaldo De Lima cry. Montella and Totti got stripped by fans.

TheGoodJoe:
Totti won the league with Roma. I think 2002. Inter we on top the table and lost it in the last game after a terrible performance by Ronaldo De Lima.

chrisooblog:
Totti won a world cup

chrisooblog:
my criteria for being world class:

1. be an exceptional performer in your role which all and sundry will acknowledge (not just club fans and country men)

2. personal awards won (best goalkeeper, top scorer, team of tournament etc)

3. churning out consistent good sometimes great performances over a long period of time for club and country

4. trophies won club or country

now if a player ticks all the boxes in the above mentioned criteria then i would consider him world class

joseph1013:

Easily.
Juventus 1-3 Barcelona, Champions league final. Busquets was the man of the match. Check out ratings from football sites.

Frankly, the only he is overrated are people who "think they know football". This was a player who at the age of 21, replaced the great Marcos Senna (from the Euro winning squad of 2008) to represent his country in the World Cup 2010 and Euro 2012. He replaced Yaya Toure from the Barcelona first team. And has been first choice for both country and club. He forced Javier Mascherano to play Centre Back although Mascherano has had more experience in his position and has never played as a Centre Back before. So we can observe that everywhere he went, he has replaced more experienced and proven players before him.

What I will do is give you what his coaches and teammates said about him.

"You watch the game, you don't see Busquets. You watch Busquets, you see the whole game."
~ Vincente Del Bosque

“Busquets is the best defensive central midfielder in the world. He's tactically very strong and will only become more important for Barcelona in the future. He can follow in the footsteps of Carles Puyol and Xavi. He's very humble and calm, but doesn't mind speaking up when he sees fit either. If I was reincarnated as a player, I'd like to be like him."
~ Pep Guardiola

“Without Busquets, Barcelona and Spain could never had achieved what we have achieved”
~ Xavi

"If I were a player, I would like to be like Busquets."
~ Vincente Del Bosque

LorDBolton:
This is how to spot dummies...

comparing military camouflage to the common black top??

Wish more people like you could emigrate to Chile, Bolivia, usa et al.

joseph1013:
This is a disappointing comment. Busquets is irreplaceable in the Barcelona team. Busquets gives some of the most difficult kind of passes that break opposition lines. He is widely acknowledged as the best defensive midfielder in the world. That's what TheGoodJoe was saying about defensive midfielders. Because they are not flamboyant, their roles tend to be underplayed.

You believe the way he breaks down opposition plays will not thrive in a team like Juventus and Chelsea?

LorDBolton:
Do highway robbers, kidnappers, militants, boko haram terrorist use camouflage to rob in Chile??

joseph1013:
As long as Mikel proves himself in Camp, he will continue to be a regular taken out around the hour mark.

Oh, I love Esiti. The guy just never gets those opportunities.

joseph1013:
goldfish80, has your opinion about Ndidi changed? Or you still believe Onazi should keep benching him?

TheSuperNerd:
You have 12 players Sir Goldfish...

And is it 3-6-1 or 3-5-2? Plss modify

TheSuperNerd:
I don't doubt Moukandjo's super talents at all. And yes, for his club he strikes. He's a top player and even when he featured in that 3-0 loss to our Super Eagles under Oliseh in late 2015, he made his impact felt. He was a menace and troubled Ikeme about twice with long range efforts.



I'm only asking since Iwobi has taken the no.8 in your 4-4-2 formation and Bassogog takes no.7... Who will take no.11?

Who will take the two central midfield roles also?

Now focus is on your own preference... YOU OWN TEAM... YOUR VERY OWN ALL-STAR NGA/CAM FIRST XI...

Don't mind anyone here... Just give me yours.

TheSuperNerd:
He's in Denmark? Some of these European clubs sef... Dem no dey see road for fine talents like this

Another is Kharma Bhilliat..... Goodness me! Did you see that dude at the Afcon... Menacing is his middle name...

TheSuperNerd:
Hmmm... This is interesting... So who will play on the left?

Will Moukandjo make your all star cam/Nga team...?

komekn:
He was so self absorbed and centred as well as conceited he actually refused to share a room with anybody at Afcon until the big boss Keshi had to put him in his place.

joseph1013:
The Camerounian FA employ arguably the best coaches willing to come to Africa. It's a mystery how they do it.

whizola:
His strength and speed on the ball makes it easy for him to beat defenders, this makes it difficult to be disposses

joseph1013:
Good point, but remember that Ondoa has been keeping for Cameroun since 2014. Ikeme came in in 2015 for the Eagles. If someone like Ondoa was around during the Enyeama drama, Oliseh may not have bothered with Ikeme. It was another German, Volker Finke , who gave Ondoa his break in the national team.