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Eruditor: I am not sure we are saying the same things.

shdemidemi: My brother, there is no power that makes you capable of cursing anyone in Christ. If it were, the world will be half empty by now with all the 'fire, fire' and 'die die' ministries around today.

God is not a Santa-Claus waiting to be manipulated by words that merely come out from our mouth.

Donxavier: How can you curse in Christ name? This level of Chris folowership has gotten to an insane level. And the Father God Almighty will honour your curse. It's you guys that are referred to when the bible says having a form of godliness but denying the power there off. Bibles says to turn away from such people.

Joagbaje: That's a broad language . I won't assume you understand what "right standing with God " is. So don't entrap me.

My position on sin has been . That Christ has given us dominion over sin, and if a christian sin. He has christ as advocate. There's grace for forgiveness.

Concerning right standing . We are talking about the nature of righteousness . There's no sin committed in the body that can change a christian from having the nature of righteousness . There are consequences of continuing in sin, sin can rob a man of graces in God. The evil that comes through sin is not from God . It's from the enemy and accuser. Who can use christian sins as point if contact to afflict them.

So if you wanna quote me . Quote me right.

shdemidemi: And of what efficacy is your curse? if God was to be like you or gave you power to curse, I am sure no chris critic will be speaking freely on this matter.

Rich4god: Una no fit let pst chris rest... Everywhere na so so chris chris..

Pennywise: I wonder who this Gombs character is who has brought his pastor Chris on NL to be ridiculed this way. Shouldnt you have just shut your mouth and avoided this avalanche of innuendos and aspersions?

You didnt think things would go in this direction did you? 22 pages and counting. Your idol has been accused of adultery. This is a hint of how messy things could go should he attempt to defend it either in court or in public.

It seems to me Pst Anita truly wants her dignity and freedom without bringing the man down as most aggrieved woman would in a typical divorce case. For that reason, she should be respected and not disparaged.

Demainman1: So if you curse me what will happen? Will i die?

I won't curse you, Pst Chris has already done that by making you one of his slaves!

ONE of the most fascinating things about history is that it depends on who is telling it...or writing it...or recounting...or, in more contemporary language, "spinning it". History is not a science in that it is not exact. Unlike algebra, or is it arithmetic, where 2 + 2 is always 4, the sum total of a historical event depends on who is doing the calculation or, can we say, calculus.That is why history is actually his story: the story, as told by the one telling it. The teller recounts the events complete with his biases, inflections and idiosyncrasies.

This is why every time I read a news story or listen to a news broadcast, I know that I am listening to someone telling a story the way he wants it to be heard not necessarily the way it really is.Recently, I had cause to reflect on this again. The news everywhere was about the renowned television evangelist, Rev. Chris Oyakhilome. He, certainly, is a news-maker. The amount of newsprint that has been spent on reporting on this man of God must certainly have sent many a publisher smiling to the bank.

The amount of internet searches and downloads on him are every blogger’s dream. Anything, and I mean anything, that can be written about him has been written. Even the brand of his toothpaste or if he prefers dental floss to toothpick would send many publishers dashing to the proverbial copy-room to publish an exclusive. They just can't write enough about him, not because of the desire to inform or educate the public but pecuniary advantages.The news space has been awash about a private marital cause between Rev. Oyakhilome and his spouse taking place in a London court. Marital causes, in our day, are a commonplace. It is not news; neither is it out of the ordinary. 

In journalism, however, it is not news that a dog bit a man. Unusual? Yes, but not out of the ordinary. However, in journalism, it is news that a man bit a dog! So when news is slow and a dog bites a man in a dog-man skirmish, the question is how do we make some money from this? Eureka: the man actually bit the dog. Not only did the man bite the dog, it wasn't the first time he has bitten a dog. Actually, biting dogs runs in his family. From infancy, the children are trained to bite dogs. Once, the story gets on social media, it goes viral and takes a life of its own. You will be amazed to know how many people, worldwide, have actually met a man who, not only bites dogs for a living, but comes from a family who does.

Only through social media do you meet people who have fraternised with the weirdest of the weird.Since the news of Rev. Oyakhilome's marital cause proceedings began, it is like everyone has some salacious information to share about the man of God. From the "Achebe-esque" village wag to the proverbial Everyman and his dog, people have gone to town recounting and recalling one supposed misdemeanour or the other of the man of God. One of the theatrics from this theatre of the absurd is that neither the stories nor their incarnations are even included as a ground in the marital cause.

The stories are completely fabricated and totally distorted. These stories have also been expanded to include his church, Christ Embassy, and the stories all seem to cloak the church as if it is one big cult or something. It is quite amazing and unbelievable that a church, reportedly so dubious, would be growing at such a tremendous rate after almost 30 years. Unlike smaller churches or organisations or even corporations that have been riven with splits, disaffection andfactions, Christ Embassy has grown from one single Nigerian individual into a worldwide movement numbering several millions people.

That is quite an achievement for any nationality, not to talk of a Nigerian.Let us look closely at this Nigerian leader of our contemporary age. His organisation has broadcast a miracle Tv program for over 10 years. He has published 3 volumes of miracle healings from testimonies of people healed by him in USA, UK, Italy, Spain, Canada, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Ghana, the Netherlands, Australia, Croatia, Romania, Egypt, India etc., and not one person has ever come forward to declare that his testimony was staged, coerced, purchased or falsified. Not one in over a decade! Yet all these testimonies come complete with pictures, names, addresses and videos of the testifiers.

Is this the man or an organisation that has come under so much unprovoked attack as being immoral or dubious?I know where Rev. Oyakhilome's "fault" lies. His "problem" is very obvious. It is the coat of many colours. For the uninitiated, the coat of many colours was a tunic that the venerable Israelite (Jew in modern parlance) Jacob made for his son, Joseph. Joseph was his favourite child. He was born to Jacob in his old age by his favourite wife, Rachael. The tunic was beautiful and colourful and showed to all and sundry that Joseph was the favourite and favoured son of his father. There was only one slight, wee-bit of a problem. Joseph was not the eldest son, nor was he the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th or even 11th of the children. The older children didn't like it. And that was natural! Nobody would.

There's something about favoured people that are junior to us that unconsciously rubs us the wrong way. In school, in the office, in the choir, in just about every aspect of life, the story is the same. That's just how favour is: it doesn't play fair.Many people look at Rev. Oyakhilome as an upstart even though his organisation has been in existence for about 3 decades. He began preaching in 1980, and that, by any means, is quite a long time. Maybe, it has to do with his youthful and extremely good-looking visage. But then, that has to do, not with him, but his mama, papa and the good Lord.

The Coat of many Colours at work again surely. In almost 30 years, Christ Embassy has produced well over 2 million members worldwide, 3 satellite Tv stations, 2 internet radio stations, the world's best read devotional (translated monthly into over 350 languages), flagship Tv programmes that are shown on terrestrial Tv stations in over 150 nations worldwide, numerous internet applications that are amongst the most downloaded worldwide on mobile devices, a universally renowned Bible, the world's largest production and distribution network of Christian audiovisual resources, including those most unique of gifts:miracles of healing. As the biblical Nicodemus said to Christ "...no one can do these miracles except God is with him".

All these manifest the Coat of many Colours that the Father of all human spirits has cloaked this His favoured son with.When a few (and this is true) people see these about Rev. Oyakhilome, it rubs them the wrong way. The depraved are stung with an undying determination, borne of envy, to cast Rev. Chris Oyakhilome in the matrix of someone with the feet of clay, like the rest of creation! What better opportunity can there be than now, even if in doing so, a few malicious and slanderous stories are fabricated along the way and some distorted anecdotes are thrown in for good measure.

Remember that in order to hang a dog, you must, first, give it a bad name. However, something very unique but odd (in the context of the Nigerian/African) is that in 30 years, Rev. Oyakhilome has not had any of his core leadership break away to set up their own organisation. Not even one major departmental head has had to go his own way. If the things being written about him or about the church are true, how do we explain the unity of follower-ship and purpose?

Everyman and his dog, as I said earlier, have had their say on this matter. I have also spoken. I have told HisStory as I have seen it and analysed it.My conclusion, from merely reading the grounds of the marital causes proceedings and the stories in the media about Rev. Oyakhilome are that these stories are all major fabrications and distortions.

The reason for it? Someone, somewhere, is intent on rewriting history because of the Coat of many Colours. In my literature textbook, in secondary school, (King Solomon's Mines), the warrior, Ignosi, tells Sir Henry Curtis "You and me, we be men". As you hear and read anything called news, remember that you are a member of the genus called Men (as opposed to creatures of baser intellect). And as a man, use your intellect, to know that the news provider is influencing you to see the world and its people his way, not necessarily in truth.

Eruditor: She's been there for more than 14 years both in and out. But on the 50% stake if they were to have a divorce (which is impossible) he will give her 100% of what he has without even going to the court and she knows this.

The man has no life of his own. The fine suits he wears have deceived many.

Demainman1: Of course, I am man enough to apologise to you if i am wrong but my friend it won't be on this matter. I am not going to be wrong. Like the yorubas will say. Chris don climb tree pass leaf this time around by bad-mouthing Anita (and every woman for that matter) just because he is an arrogant man!

How can one in their right mind say your wife of over 20 years in no longer a woman of God just because of small yawa? this same woman you ordained a pst and made head of your UK branch. And mugus are here defending the idiot!!

As you wish for Anita, may it go back to your sisters in Jesus Name. Amen!!

Demainman1: I don't mind waiting. Afterall we all have been waiting for Jesus to come back since year 0000. So let's wait and see.

But when it does happen, and of course it will happen, i will indeed love to see that grin wipe off your funny face for real

Demainman1: I can't wait to see that smile wipe off your funny face in due course

I am not hating on Pastor Chris,I am just saying you should stop defending this whole saga unjustly

...some people speak about the man as if they woke up on the same bed with him this morning.Some of them never even speak with the man before ooo.....

Are you calling Anita a liar....

Are you justifying Pastor Chris or saying that he is also a liars, serial fornicators, thieves, gamblers, killers etc

Una theory of all thing worketh together for good does not and can not apply here.

Gombs abeg read in between the line and come out straight guy...

pickabeau1: Your response or lack of it is noted

Demainman1: THE MAIN REASON FOR THE DIVORCE IS that

Rev Anita can no longer have children and Chris is desperate for a MALE child (African mentality) that will one day inherit his earthly kingdom. They tried prayer, it did not work. They tried medical, it hasn't work either, hence Pastor Chris started playing away match by sleeping with all those small, small girls.

He will marry another woman immediately after the divorce to achieve his aim.

My people, do not be in a hurry. All will be relieved in court in due course.

nora544: The Wife of lake died at a time he build healing rooms in south africa
He died also of a strok at the age of 65 so what is with faith and that is the man who could heal ebola when we didnot know what ebols is.

mbaemeka: Hahahahahahaha Kenneth Hagin died from complications arising from a bad heart? Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Just like when someone told me that Paul may have gotten infected from the wounds sustained from some of the beatings he received. Then I had to ask him "if a snake bite (with venom) could not infect him why should a mere wound now infect him?"

These guys are funny and yet they want to have you believe that they believe God's words more than you. Hahahahahaha.

aitiola: Are you actually a christian or a member of CE,why all this poo from people who are not even scripturally grounded. How would you say God did not call his wife and shes been heading one of your largest branches in the UK for almost 15 years.

People like you are the reason why unbeliever say jack shit about Christianity. How can you be so blind to see that this person is the VICE PRESIDENT OF YOUR MINISTRY and God did not call her.....Pls delete your account on NL Abeg. People like you should not even quote me.

So your Pastor is a man of God and the wife is a woman of the devil for seeking a divorce...If the wife of your pastor is not a woman of God so who are you sef.

Eruditor: Imagine if someone says I hate PDP because Tinubu is the head of the party. What would you say to the person? Will you say "I understand why you hate PDP- I hate Tinubu too?" Or will you say "Do you mean APC, because Tinubu is unrelated to PDP?"

Pastor Anita didn't file any suit. I don't know where you got it from. Please check the suit number and please bring it out for us so that we can see and believe. Also tell us when she sent her lawyers to go to PREMIUM, SUNNEWS, ENCOMIUM, Sahara, Cable news and what have you because the Pastor Anita I know CAN NEVER go to the media.

Then when you are done, be truthful with yourself and figure out if you reason at all.

pickabeau1: so what does he mean when he says a wife of a man of God is not necessarily a woman of God

pickabeau1: Why was Rev Anita involved on more than a cursory level if she is not a woman of God?

WinsomeX: Simple Google/Wikipedia... try them. They will help your ignorance.

pickabeau1: I have a question if u can answer

It is possible for a spouse of a called man not to have a calling. Such women will not be visible in the ministry

WHy was this different in the case of BLW that she helped found churches, cowrote the devotional and handled the UK arm

Eruditor: You and your ilk are the overly hurt emotions that are few in number. This man and his wife didn't start ministry work yesterday so you don't have enough experience to teach them.

I have told you repeatedly that all the divorce nonsense and accusations are just figments of the medias imagination but you would rather believe the media over him and his wife.

I also told you she didn't go to any Cablenews, PREMIUM, Sahara etc. But you still won't listen. I don't know what else to say to you people. For a month plus this man has been with his children in Canada. That's how he meets with his family (privately) but the media that knows close to nothing will not tell you that.

What if I tell you he has seen his wife at least 3 times this year will you believe me? No. But you would take Sahara's news that he is having inappropriate relationships with female members all because you want to give a dog a bad name so that you can hang it.

Eruditor: Do me well and show me any part of Paul's writings to the Corinthians that suggests he made such a proposition based on the immoralities and brothels in the region. Also, point me to the exact teaching in Ephesians about marriage that you feel the MOG doesn't apply to his life.

shdemidemi:

Chris henchman, how family? I hope you ain't like your master, please spend more time with mrs Gombs rather than fight chris' e-battles 247.

WinsomeX: Sorry the knowledge of Jesus you possess is wrong knowledge. Get into the know.

Those who taught you the knowledge that God heals everybody learnt very late in their lives that he doesn't.

Oral Roberts died of a failing heart.

Kathryn Kulmhan died from complications following surgery.

Benson Idhahosa died of heart failure.

E W Kenyon died of brain tumour.

Kenneth Hagin died from complication arising from a bad heart.

The list is endless.

So friend get to know because as you have confessed you know little.

shdemidemi: This is the main reason why chris might not succumb to admitting he is as man as a man can ever be- fallible/prone to error. If this man dare say the truth, people like Gombs might not stop at becoming atheist, some might take their own lives. That is how much their faith is anchored by their denomination and even worse, their pastors.

lexy2014: were u CE folks get things wrong is that u arent objective but take everything pastor chris tells u hook line and sinker. its unfortunate what is happening in his marriage but then again i believe a lot of people outside CE felt sorry and wished a happy ending. we all make mistakes and unfortunate things happen to all of us irrespective of our spiritual maturity and one would have expected pastor chris to acknowledge this instead he was blaming pastor anita for the problem. 1 timothy 3:4-5 is very clear about how he is to manage his family considering d fact that he is a shepherd. if pastor anita isnt a woman of God, then what was she when she was running the UK church of CE and VP of BLW? if pastor chris didnt want his wife 2b heard then y make her a pastor? the reason the wives of prophets and apostles werent heard in d bible is simply cos they didnt make their wives pastors and VPs in their ministries as pastor chris did. y would he in d first spend alot of time away from his wife and family all in d name of ministry? marriage was made for companionship.i dont c how pastor chris engendered companionship with his attitude. what moral authority does he now have to resolve marital issues among his members? thank God for all his accomplishments u mentioned but dont forget Luke 13:25-27. the Bible remains d standard and not pastor chris. let he that thinks he stand take heed lest he falls.