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trustman: [s]Again a display of arrogance.
Sorry ... ...but no sorry
Its for the mature ...
Jesus commanded it -To Claim personal victory for things?
"WE MINISTER" ... ... "WE DO IT"
Its all about me, myself and i Plus 'we' , abi?
Give God the glory brother, give God the Glory! [/s]

jared007: [size=20pt]Ur knowledge of scripture is poor.[/size] Why didn't u condem John the Baptist for calling the pharisees "Brood Of Vipers" or our Lord Jesus for calling king herod a Fox?

Yooguyz: Hey Gombs my animated gifs are not moving like yours why?

Kenny4lyfe: Had nine in my Bible study class with a first-timer. They're all foundation school students!

Oyinprince: Same happened in my Cell meeting.
Had a total attendance of 17

PastorKun: So what did you discuss at today's cell meeting?

It's like I've said, you guys don't know how to intelligently respond to arguments so you resort to derision and other underhand tactics.

I'm beginning to believe it's a well organized ploy by your 'team'.

So you are so excited about 'gods' that their laughter mean so much to you. Interesting.

I know that you are hoping for one day when you will have 'more faith' to use 'the power of the spoken word' to make all your perceived opponents evaporate from the face of the earth. Before then i think you need the faith to: 
"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust."

I believe you want to show yourself to be the son of your father in heaven OR do you belong to another 'father'?

shdemidemi: Atheist are far better than the gospel adulterers.

Apostle Paul never had a grouse with one unbeliever, rather he prays and hope they come to the knowledge of the truth. But for people like you, who adulterate scriptures to deceive the poor in spirit, he attacked for most of his epistles.

LambanoPeace: Double standard hypocrite!

Yet you are ok with atheists, perverts, gamblers and known dishonest liars supporting your kind of religious Christianity? Na Gombs really fit you.

trustman: Exactly what i noted!!!
What is your "Oh, really?" supposed to say?

Who told you i'm pained? Or was that your attempt to 'hurt' me?

I said you don't honestly look at issue and then you come back with "Bible said one shall chase a thousand, two ten thousand... ..." Tell me, how does that answer my point?

I took up a specific point Mbaemeka made, and the next thing you'd come up with is:"Story for the gods..." as if that is anything near an intelligent response to the matter at hand.

I doubt if you people can handle any logical discuss. Prove me wrong.

I only feel sorry for you guys. You've been sold a lie and you've bought it.

If the issues being dealt with were not that serious one would have called you guys clowns.

After I had written that Jesus used the word "power" twice, I did a quick search and discovered I was wrong. I immediately corrected that post. I accept that that was an error.

However I cannot continue this discuss with you because I realize that we are miles are apart in thinking. One could still debate the veracity of Chris Oyakhilome miracles but T B Joshua... haba! Forget it.

If Joshua is however your example of what and who a "man of God" should be, then the Chris Oyakhilome scandal has a lot more for us.

I will simply stay tuned and allow events to roll, while we watch...

Gombs, mbaemeka and other CEC members are actually trying to be be cunning.
They attempt to shift the discussion points or CHANGE TOPICS of discussion.
They attempt to use the motive of members to JUDGE their posts and reply with
their perceived Op's reason for stating what was stated.
They employ pretense of laughter or other emotions.
When they can't answer questions they find ways to throw it off.
The new resort to catchy pictures is also attempt at putting readers of the real
issues. They want to make it seem less serious than it is or inconsequential.
Even issues posted as a matter of life and death are easily turned into Mickey Mouse
affair by them.

They are not honest in looking at the argument and evidence provided by others.
No serious thoughts are given to posts of those they consider 'opponents' rather
what they immediately want to do is 'puncture' the post OR divert attention away
from the core issues to some other thing.
For example, they will prefer that this thread go in the direction of arguing over
the meaning of POWER so that at the end of the day the focus is lost.

SirJohn has again obliged us with DETAILS concerning his experience in a place
that was supposed to have AN ATMOSPHERE FOR MIRACLES.
All we see is still attempts at accusations and the like.
IF A MAN HAS THE GIFT OF MIRACLES what should it take for such a gift to be displayed?
Will it take a school to first TEACH the students how to prepare themselves for the man's
gift to be displayed?
Who is exercising the gift? The man or the expectant recipients?
Is their PRESENCE at the SCHOOL not enough FAITH that they expected to see MIRACLE?

Now, look at this:
Mbaemeka's response to SirJohn being at the healing school in May 2008 is this -
Foul sir! For the simple reason that the post you made was on the 19th of May 2008. When you had just finished watching the "charade" in the first session of the HS. I don't know why you bothered staying through till the end of the 2nd session when it was evident to you that neither you nor your "invalid" was going to see any real miracles.
Now to an objective observer of the trend, the questions that can arise are:
SirJohn himself mentioned that it was several months after the healing school
episode that he made up his mind about the things going on at the healing school.
So what is the 'FOUL' about? And what is the query on staying till the end of the 2nd session for?
Did he read the post well?
It is responses like these that make one wonder if they are actually out to see the facts of a matter
or they just want to 'fight' any perceived opponent's arguments whether it is reasonable to do so
or not.

Topgainer: Take my advice Gombs and Pastor Mbaemeka leave Christembassy now stop trying to justify your continued stay there. You guys are better of discovering God by your personal study of the word than wasting your income on Rapsody

PastorKun: I am sure you know the so called PhD your charlatan parades is also a fake if not I challenge you to produce the name of the institution that awarded him the PhD and the date he was awarded

mbaemeka: A double-sided man, unstable in all his ways will not receive anything from God.

James 1

6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways

Dont mind them, they werea the ones who sent Chris to the gallows for honoring Joshua's invitation, and Pastor Chris declaration that T.B. Joshua is indeed an MOG. Now, see his incredulous biasness?

Forget that fella...that's why I did not bother quoting the hypocrite. He's nailing Chris Oyakhilome, but it was same Chris that was sent to the gallows for visiting T.B. Joshua' s church, and declaring Joshua was a MOG.

Double standard concentrated hypocrisy

Compare what you said and the person cheering you's post to this post of yours:



How could you tell T.B was gifted? Do you agree with all his teachings? Let us start there.

Jesus used the word "power" in [size=20pt]only two places[/size] and they were not in reference to miracles. Jesus said he had power to forgive sins; he also said he had power to lay down his life and to take it up again. That's all. It would be beneficial for you to investigate the source of the power of those you glory in as mentors in ministry.

aysometin: Re: Bolded above. There lies the problem. Charities all over the world engage in activities you have listed above to help lost souls turn their lives around but the difference is they don't expect back from them in return. It is quite clear from your utterances that the essence of doing the above is to eventually brainwash these people and then turn them to money spinners using the name of God.

Let's look back to when missionaries brought the gospel, they gave love without expecting back in return. Over the years, we have changed Christianity to suit our selfish desires. I grew up as an Anglican and the difference in what was obtainable as a christian 30 years ago to now is mind boggling.

The truth is westerners are the only ones still practicing true religion with their consistent charity and service to humanity without expecting back. Do you know how much they send to Africa every year as aid? What of the Nurses and Doctors from the West risking their lives in Ebola infected areas. Did you hear that the UK nurse that was treated for Ebola intends to return to where he contracted it.Will you do same?
This is all God wants us to be, love ourselves and that my brother is true religion.

All the bogus give 10% to get 100% is rubbish. Only materialistic individuals who do not understand what life is all about are interested in such. The reason why you want the material stuff is to impress your neighbour innit?

Nigerians are so funny to me, you chase all these money and can't boast of 24 hours electricity. (Topic for another day)

MissTeaseMe: Gombs gombs
How are u doing?
I am a psychologist and i can tell a lot about people from subtle details.
Your signature is fantastic and i love it, the conscious effort to add Phd to the man's name tells me a lot. So no need to take u serious again on any matter that concerns Pastor Chris. You dont have to reply, cos i aint interested in a dialogue, just had to drop this.

shdemidemi: I agree


I hope you understand that your so called approach ended with Paul- there were other soldiers of the gospel even after Paul, no wonder was recorded in their gathering. Could it be that Titus, Timothy, Philemon, onephorus et al did not have challenges?



Did Paul keep these power to wrought miracles for all of his life, considering he lived most of the tail end of his life in confinement not knowing when he will be killed?



Romans 1:16

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation

Bro, what exactly is the power of God in this verse?

Is it miracle? Is it signs and wonders that you love to call a proof?

The gospel of Christ i.e the story of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus is the power of God, nothing else.





The goodnews is the power of God my brother.

Lacomus: Not quite long I opened a thread about the same topic but base on human judgment, many people are against the act , if man who was created by God is against Bo0bs,hips,butt augmentation and other surgery carried out to enhance beauty how much more God ? , I've not head it being preached before that's why I'm here , I know there are bible scholars on nairaland , let's hear ur take .
there are many people who may also need an answer to this question.

Freest: Greetings my people. Though i created this thread before, still had to bring it up here because it disturbs me some how, and Please i really need your suggestions.
Graduated two years ago from a popular higher institution and have been without a job which made life uneasy until recently a friend called and told me of a job secured with high connections. I applied and was called for interview. That same day, we were asked to come with a filled copy of our forms signed by a chief judge. My friend had already signed his, but i had no such connection nor the huge cash being demanded for at that time by the legal practitioner to append his signature,and afterall the clock was ticking on me as it was needed asap. Since i am very good with computer, i scanned and edited the Judges stamp and signature from my friends document and placed it on mine. Finally i got the job. But now, after a whike working with this guys, i don't feel good with myself. The fear that am gonna get caught is eating me up, since that is a criminal offence, not just with an ordinary citizen but impersonating a legal practitioner, and also my faith in God, as this is a Sin against God. Now am in dilemma as to what to do. A part of me wants to go and meet the judge, tell him everything that happened and apologize damning the consequences that will result from my actions. The other part wants to just keep quiet, and continue with the job knowing that i have asked God for mercy. This job has helped me alot. Helped my family too, makes me look like a man and i really dont wish to loose it. I need candid advice and suggestions please. Thanks alot!!!

mbaemeka: The easiest thing for anyone to do is to switch sides when a more superior argument trounces yours. The more superior argument doesn't even need to be the truth- just a few facts here and there presented in a more logical or deceptive way and one can make a new convert.

When another argument, more superior to the one that had earlier convinced you comes, immediately you switch sides again and this will be the case as long as one is swayed by the interpretation of facts or truths as the case maybe. That's why you have people like Frosbel who has so strayed to the point that he is now a proponent of Neo-agnostism.

What is the solution? Preach what you believe and demonstrate that it works (I will place a period here). It was Moses' approach, Elijah's, Jesus' and even Paul's.

Paul was a theologian per excellence, but he knew that wranglings with words, strife, exchange of banter etc. Wasn't going to make much difference so he backed up what he taught with the proofs that it worked.

This is pertinent because Christianity would have been like any other dead religion if it was devoid of the power. It would have been a mere case of "serve your God the way you want and I will serve my God the way I want". It is the reason for different religions springing up at almost every nuke and cranny of the world and why some have become atheists- because there is a paucity of proof that anything anybody believes in is real.

Paul said in Hebrews, that it is impossible for anyone who was once enlightened; tasted of the Power from on High; shared in the Holy Spirit; tasted the goodness of the word of God and the Powers of the coming age, if they fall away to be brought back to repentance. That's how convincing the demonstration is and Paul knows it..

So atheists and the likes will be offshoots and found in the midst of those who talk about godliness but excuse the power. The one's who disparage the gifts of tongues or the manifestations of the Holy Spirit. The one's who talk, talk. . . and talk more. And the reason is clear:

(goodnews + power = Christianity) while (any news - power= religion/Agnostism ~ Atheism)

OLAADEGBU: Are you taught to believe that unwanted babies are to be aborted?

shdemidemi: Good to hear from you again chris' muppet.. How is mrs Gombs, I hope she isn't residing in Togo?

On a lighter note, I just saw an actor who deserves an award for his role and performance in a fictitious drama.

Passion!!! Tears!!! Testimony!!! Yeeeee! Demons spoke, they flee.... Can't put all in words.

Cast -joagbaje and others

go grab your copy NOWWWWWWW...

https://www.dropbox.com/l/zm7qzQm89ZWxuyrDrva8kp

OLAADEGBU: It's about the enemy of my soul. Do you know him?

shdemidemi: Oniro buruku...
All these your "I prayed, I prayed" matter that you dwell on, only God can deliver you from the lies you tell yourself. Your heart is so stirred that you now believe your own lies.

If God heals, He heals completely regardless of the lie you tell the day or the year after. His mercy isn't dependent on how good or bad I am. If an ordinary mortal father wouldn't treat his child as such, how much more God.

Quit the lies...

Yooguyz: @Gombs, I like your gifs, how do you get them?