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WinsomeX: Good.

Then get knowledge. Get to know.

That's definitely not what my Jesus came to do..He came to destroy ALL works of the devil...not some

Yooguyz: Criticize the message, and not the messenger. Do you have anything better to say?

y bother? No need to caution them... they are the true Christians

If we sin, do we lose our salvation? If we are truly saved, will we ever sin? And if we do sin, what should we do to get rid of the guilt and the grief that hang heavy in our heart?

The Bible tells us, “If we confess our sins, he [God] is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world” (1 John 1:9–10; 2:1–2).


The word “advocate” means lawyer or one who pleads our cause or case. Jesus acts as our lawyer, pleading our case before the Father. When we are tempted, if we sin, we can claim the promise of First John 1:9: “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”


After verse 10, the Apostle John went on to say, “My little children . . .” (1 John 2:1). Man put the divisions between these chapters; John did not write in chapter and verse like this. Therefore, reading the four verses of our text in sequence, we can see that John was not writing to sinners; he was writing to Christians.

First John 1:9 is often quoted to sinners, telling them to confess their sins. God didn’t tell them to. It would be impossible for a sinner to confess every wrong he had ever done, because his whole life is wrong! No, this verse was written to Christians.

John writes, “My little children [because they were saved under his ministry and were his spiritual children], these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.”

This brings us to a very sensitive subject in the Church world. When you teach about God’s grace and forgiveness, someone always believes you are giving people a license to sin. I always say, however, that people do enough sinning without a license!

...to be continued

GLOBALX: Typo error...pardon my mistake.Hope u got the message and not the mistake. .
Listen to God and not any pastor.Study to show thyself approved......not waiting on any pastor to clean ur mess.

i wasn' concerned about they typo, but the "I heard from a reliable source" ...that's a trademark for rumour...or ammebo.... or Aproko...

nora544: No healing school is working see the information about this fake pastor lake and his healingrooms.

God will heal who he want and no one will know when he make it and pastor chris healing schools are a big fraus and only there that he gets money.

Hello Nora! Didn't know God chooses some to remain sick and some to be healed

Lobeez: I once used the same words but you know what... The truth will come crawling in someday, trust me

Till then!

Fraudster
Scammer
Fake healer
False prophet
Juju man
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Now adultery.... bro, av seen it all...this one compare to the NBC and Atmosphere for miracle saga is a child's play....preachers thn organise tv show, banner, bil boards, flyers etc just to nail Pastor Chris....bros eh, even if Pastor Chris comes now and say "I no do again", I still will not be moved.

prologue: There is noticeable progress. No more dissecting of each statement n making adumbration.
mission accomplished. worded n empty in spirit. further discuss would be futile.
you can't separate righteous living n Christian life.

Are you related to Hon. Patrick Obiagbhon?... if not, can u please make your grammar a bit simple? And try to use complete sentences (or manageably a sentence) not phrases in communicating your view.

Thank me later

PastorKun: You are already an atheist.

Are you related to one moniker Mr Olodo on nairaland?

If being in CEC depicts atheism, I'm proud to be one

Joagbaje: These are demonic lies Just like in the days of Jesus . Nobody need to fake a healing Jesus still does his things . Healing takes place in cec churches regularly . Watch HIV case healed in a cec church here:

HIV HEALED. https://www.dropbox.com/l/zm7qzQm89ZWxuyrDrva8kp

If you want to contact the guy I will give you his contact

[KJV] Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you Joagbaje and other true Christians it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others trustman, hungryboy, drummaboy and other religious folk in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

One day sir, they would desire the supernatural, and a cell leader would be there to heal them. It's just time

tenajtek: If being a member of Christ Embassy is wrong, i don't want to be right! Deal with it!

Gbam, if I ever, ever find myself leaving CEC, , I'd be heading straight to atheism!....now, they should really deal with it

prologue: Hater? I have given severally for ROR. an active partner. Using the word hater reveals so much.
Anything rebuke is seen as "hate" and perceiving me with degradation is obvious.
Healing? not me. Jesus. as a cell leader I prayed and Jesus healed. Thank God for the Aguda CE then.
Jesus still heals thr. us.
for Siji looking better... yes. am indeed ugly. what a comparison. Just that Jesus loves me and didn't look at my profound ugliness before the gift of Salvation. Emphasis on physical beauty as a benefit shift standards n waters down the essence.
I will be straight with you. There is a trend of permissiveness that erodes core Christian values and focus on sensual proclivities.

Eyaaaaaa!

GLOBALX: It's funny though the rate at which Nigerian's defend their pastors.See, don't be deceived at all.I [size=16pt]had[/size] from a reliable source about a Pastor who was bleeping a friend's chic living with the pastor's family 24/7.The lady later confessed to my paddy and he had to move her out.My point is dat deep knowledge of the Scripture and the ability to teach extensively does not determine the exact level of spirituality and connectivity with God.
Don't be deceived people...you only know yourself so stop been overly sensitivity about your pastor.He is human and can err.
Also,this overly misused " I'm a man of God" thing sometimes is a deliberate method to instill fear into people's mind so you can't ask questions.The scriptural men of God that we all read about today in the bible did lived the exact opposite lifestyle of what most assumed men of God of our time are living now.
Many will say "But Lord,in thy name we cast out demons and healed the sick but he shall say unto them,I know ye not you workers of iniquity".
If your pastor messes up,let him clear his mess and don't come here fighting tooth and nail for a man you probably see only for few hours on Sunday and you don't know what he does for the rest of the week.

I stopped reading when I got to the enlarged...u guys are Really amazing sha...so we should not listen to Pastor Chris but you guys?

Hillarious

prologue: Pride... what does it take to translate into 432 language?

How many have you done? Hater!

Most of CE are sensual.

The feeling is mutual

remember d dude from a warri branch... tall dark dude with jerry curls... said he has improved in physical looks.

Pastor Siji Dara...wonderful Man of God..and he's by far better looking than u

Anyone can heal the sick.

How many have u healed?

do u know about induced healing?

How many have you induced?

Apart from a pastor in Aguda, surulere (heard he left)n another I attended in Gombe.... most others are cheap copy n desperate imitations. ( from the ones I have attended)
back to the matter

Are you sure you are completely ok?

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... Can't u see from the message that Anita is been reduced? can any of u ask why?

Can't you see her picture behind the devotional? Can any of u ask why?

plz, stop n think

Yeah, pls stop and think

Advancing In Life -Tuesday, September 9th .
Pastor Chris

Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all (1 Timothy 4:15).

The Word of God has a ministry in our lives, and this is something that needs to be emphasized in the body of Christ. The Christian ought to be voracious for the Word. You have to always open your heart and mind to the Word to build, strengthen, and establish you permanently to enjoy all that God has made available to you in Christ. We read the Apostle Paul’s admonition to the young man Timothy, saying, “Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them….” What things was he referring to?

In the preceding chapters of 1 Timothy, Paul had shared specific and vital truths from God’s Word with Timothy; it was those revelations he urged him to meditate upon. If the Spirit thought it fit to give Timothy such vital counsel through the Apostle Paul, then it’s equally befitting to us today. We’re to constantly meditate on the revelation of God’s Word that we’ve received.

Notice also that he said to him, “…give thyself wholly to them…” That means, “yield” yourself completely to the Word. Allow the Word to have power over your life. Let it dominate your thinking, influence your words, and propel your actions. Yielding yourself to the Word is a conscious and deliberate response, initiated from your spirit to the Word of God.

Imagine that someone said to you, “Get up,” and you promptly obliged, especially upon due contemplation of the instruction, and consideration of the one from whom it came, you’ve “yielded” yourself to that instruction. As a result, you’ll then enjoy the benefits of the instruction. The benefit of “yielding” yourself wholly to the Word is that your “profiting” will appear to all. The Greek word translated “profiting” is “prokope,” which means furtherance, progress or advancement. This means you’ll make advancement by the Word; your progress becomes apparent when the Word is final authority in your life.

The phrase, “may appear” in our opening verse actually means more than “something coming casually into sight”; the Greek term is “Phaneros,” which means, “to spread abroad.” Your advancement, furtherance, and prosperity will “spread abroad,” become widely and openly known, as you “meditate” and “yield” yourself wholly and completely to the Word of God.

Prayer. ..
Dear Father, I thank you for the transforming power of your Word as I meditate on, and yield myself completely to, its influence and dominion. My progress and advancement spread abroad, evident for all to see, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Psalms 143:5 I remember the days of old; I meditate on all thy works; I muse on the work of thy hands. ;

Psalms 1:1-3 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: 2 Corinthians 8-9, Proverbs 24-26
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: 2 Thessalonians 2:11-17, Jeremiah 27

lanrefront1: it is there in print in THIS DAY. THIS DAY says a copy of the suit is in its possessions. I didn't say it. THIS DAY said and its a reputable and BIG newspaper.

Well I guess THIS DAY must be LIEING then. They simply put pen to paper and came out with their own version of the divorce suit filed by Anita lawyers.

How old are you? In your late teens i must say

Reputable and big BBC told us that Bama has been taken over by Boko Haram
Reputable and big Punch newspaper told us Goodluck hired the Australian negotiator...

It's amazing you believe the big and reputable paper and not what the man Pastor Chris has to say!

trustman: It should be clear to any objective observer that Gombs & Co will discredit ANY media house in order to try and 'prove' their 'man of God' right.
Even the very statement by their 'man of God' cannot be rightly evaluated by them because he is above mistake and so cannot be faulted.
So they will use ANY 'technique' to try to frustrate perceived 'opponents'.

Same media house that nailed T.B Joshua
Same that attacked Chris before?

Save your epistle for the gods... go get ur buddy drummaboy

PastorAji: Oga can u explain the rationale where Anita didn't have just 1 day in the September Rapsodi of Realities

Is her pic behind the devotional?

lanrefront1: What about THIS DAY then? Can we accept news from them or shall we disregard them too?

They didn't fabricate it; they simply reproduced in print the copy of the divorce papers with them.

You are terribly dim witted (no offence intended)...so UK court photocopied a suit file and gave ro THISDAY abi? From cable news UK to now THISDAY.

lanrefront1: the reasons stated in suit as reason for divorce was posted on online on UK cable news. They do have access to these things, i.e these kind of information. You think there wee fabricated. please say something else. the suit filed by the law firm representing Anita is there for everyone to see.

if the contents was not what the law firm filed, they will definitely have come out to refute it.

See how irredeemable u are? Your foolishness is getting annoying.

Uk cable news abi? Www.thecable.ng is now in UK abi? They have access to THESE THINGS... I don't know which is more annoying, your folishness or the Nigeria media silliness

ogunaofor: They have affected the world in more ways than your pastor, point being that the fact that you are affecting the world does not mean you are led by the spirit of God.

How? Start from your state...

Another failed thread o....


DB open another, there's a new gist that Chris Oyakhilome has a hotel in PH where he court girls for sex...

ogunaofor: Bill Gates , steve jobs, richard branson many others without the Holy Spirit

Really? They heal the sick?
They have about 25 million brethren nworldwide?
They publish a daily devotional in 423 languages In all nations of the world?
They talk about Christ?

Go sleep abeg

Eruditor: I know alot about the MOG Pastor Chris Oyakhilome and his wife not just because I have been a member of his church for a very long time but because I have asked questions from people who have been here longer than myself and have known him too, on a very personal level.

I must say that without a doubt he got a definite call from God to take God's divine presence to the nations of the world and demonstrate the character of his Spirit. It is with this vision that the MOG ran with that started out as a fellowship and developed into what you have of it today.

The man fears God (in a reverential way) not just because he is a christian and one called into the 5-fold ministry but because the anointing on his life is very tangible such that it could kill him if decides to walk contrary to his calling- which is to walk in love, righteousness and true holiness as is expected of a man of God- one who Pastors a very large followership world wide.

It is for this reason (and many others that I may mention should time afford me) that I know without a doubt that the prevarications and fabrications of misled individuals some of which are Christians are only done under the inspiration of demons who want to strike the shepherd so that the sheep will be scattered.

Before I say anymore, let me talk about his beloved wife, Rev. Anita Oyakhilome. I have heard her husband say to Winnie Mandela in South Africa that she's of mixed decent as her Dad is an Edo Nigerian while her mum is from Switzerland. She, like her husband gave her heart to Christ at an early age. While I may have lost the exact age she was when she became born again her husband gave his heart to Christ at the age of 9 and both have been that way ever since.

She's one of the founding members of the ministry that began in the early 80s and has a specific grace in the areas of establishing and nurturing churches; mentoring mothers and wives and infact women in general. She also functions in a very tangible anointing from God and if you have ever met her you would feel it without her saying a word.

Pastor Chris (if I am allowed to say) worships the ground she walks on and she does he. She loves and respects him and he does too. They are very private people and have never been known to go to the media let alone divulge personal issues to them. So anyone believing in those lies about her lawyers going to PREMIUM news or Vanguard or what not are doing so at their own peril. It is not just her style.

I have a friend (who used to be on NL but has ceased to do so in years now) who drove Pastor Anita to the airport in 2001 when one other minister in Nigeria was criticising her husband. In the course of the journey, he decided to engage her and ask her for her opinion on the matter. He had heard her preach about the love of God and turning the other cheek to persecutors but somehow he wanted to know how she really felt. He said she was saying a lot of kind things about the man and concluded that the power of God will shine forth from such a situation. That's the Pastor Anita I know.

She started a church in Ojo, Agboju area (close to Alakija) and was able to change it from a former warehouse cum spare parts garage to a world class facility before 1999 when she got a different assignment. She did this in about 3 years with the help of many son's of Consolation as are prevalent in our ministry. How they procured the property and developed it into what it is today or how they have grown many satellite churches in and around that region is another days talk but the current Pastor of that church, Shola Olubode is a testimony to her grace.

It was in 1999 that she was given that assignment by her MOG (who happens to be her husband too) to go to the UK to help establish the church that was just burgeoning at the time. There's nothing more to say about that as the evidences of her grace is known to all who seeks the truth. She has taken what some may have referred to as a Ram shackle years back and turned it into what it is today and she has established many other churches around Europe and even part of the Americas.

Pastor Anita and Chris have always found time to see and train their Children together regardless of the pressures of ministry. I know this because apart from his words I am friends with a couple of people who know him to the point of walking in and out of his abode at will.

There was a time when one of their daughters all of a sudden could not walk and Pastor Chris kept speaking the word of God to her even when there was no physical change. He told us how he would have to travel and would tell his wife to keep speaking the word when he is away saying to the girl's legs "you would walk, you would run, you would jump". To cut a long story short, one day, the young girl shocked her parents as she leaped out of the car and ran to him when he took them to a mall.

I know of another time when he took his wife to Switzerland on their wedding anniversary. The workers in the hotel didn't recognise them till someone divulged the information to them. On the day they checked out, the whole staff of the Hotel including the management came to bid them farewell. But you would not know all this because it is not on the news.

I am aware that atleast once every year he travels out to spend time with his wife and kids (not only when Church programmes are on schedule) and I know that Pastor Anita is always in Nigeria (especially during IPPC) in November to see him amongst other things. My younger brother has helped in the white house (where the President of CEC stays) and on many occasions he ran into Pastor Anita. Besides, the names that were touted as "unmarried women working with him" is another vicious lie from his traducers.

The White House as we know it was built by the ministry and has various facilities suited to the ministry. The most important aspect of it is the Studio that Pastor Chris uses to host some of his question-answering sessions. If he had his way, he would never travel out of Nigeria and would rather preach from his studio. That's why I laugh when see posters calling him a gallivanter and saying he loves to travel around the world.

Pastor Deola Phillips (the outgoing CEO of CEC) and the present(the Medical doctor) are both women of God who have been in the ministry for more than 23 years. They are married women with Children and they are fully dedicated to the work of the ministry. It is wicked and insulting to regard them as "girls or part of Chris' itinerary" as if they are new. These women also love and respect Pastor Anita not just as a senior Pastor but as the wife of the president of the ministry.

I will continue shortly. . .

Brother, no need trying to convince these folks...believe me, no need

Bobby4090: "And when it comes to Rev. Anita, what I'd say to you is pray for her, don't act like 'why why why is she....".

Mr Chris... your just a swine and a womanizer. You are having problems with your wife, its not just her that needs prayers, its both of you that needs prayers. Your comments above should be "pray for us" and not just "pray for her". But your arrogance and pride will not allow you say that hence you have crashed your marriage and will make your childrens life miserable henceforth. May God deliver you from this your empty arrogance and blindness.

Correct Christian

Your prayer is cool

Aint it funny to note that adultery is no longer the crux of the matter but the fact that he 'abandoned' his wife for 16 years.


Keep changing stories

Boss13: The above shows an arrogant man indulging in creative deception. Your wife is not a woman of God but you appointed her to lead your UK division. She co-authors your daily devotional book. She preaches too and also claim to heal. Come Mr. Chris you can deceive your members but you cannot deceive the public. Which God made you his man? Mr. Chris you are a sexist and a man who demoralize women. Why did you marry her initially? Please people should quit quoting an imaginary devil that does not exist. Mr. Chris is the devil - anyone who lies and deceive in the name of religion is the devil.

Bobo, please point in the OP where pastor chris said the above bold....if not, shame on ur reading and comprehensive ability

Wallade: Pardon my inability to read well and understand. However, I wonder why Pastor Chris sited that case "the wife of a Man of God is not automatically a Woman of God" if it wasn't meant to clarify the status of his wife or slight her. I beg to differ, I don't think a man should make direct or indirect derogatory, despicable or hurtful statements about his wife in public, it is disrespectful.
I am so sorry, I don't mean to offend, I hope no offence is taken.

None taken!

remsonik: Pls before you start playing pastor chris advocate here, I wanna ask you a few questions.
Why do your pastor bleach and curls his hair??

Don't derail please

Why don't they live together after 16 years of marriage and the church doesn't request that of him??

Says? Media right? Ministry my dear! It does not however mean they don't see eye to eye for 16 years

Don't you think if they have lived together she would ve understand his vision better and be able to carry forth the vision of the ministry??

So living together would have made her understood his vision and be abke to carry forth the vision of the ministry? I don't live with Pastor Chris but I understand fully his vision and that of the ministry

Why didn't pastor chris address the issue rather he took time to throw jabs at his wife in this post??

Are you dyslexic? Do you have reading problems? I think a line there points out hims saying he did none of what the media is saying and that someone is dragging him to court.

He would ve kept quiet afterall the church is incorporated and its his personal business so he doesn't owe you guys an apology.

Why didn’t you keep quiet? Why pry?

I only pity the followers,you guys have been molested,raped and wounded. A woman have needs and so a man but if you deny eachother of your needs when u are married then you are an infidel.

We gree, oya stop drinking panadol for our headache

Plenty Nairalanders have chronic reading disorder or semi literate...

Some said he could not solve the issue and heads to court
Some said he encourages divorce even thoug he said it's not Christ like
Some said he said wives of MOGs are not WOG
Some said he said we should pray for her and not for himself

...gosh!

nep2ra: Nigerians and busybody...

Pastor Chris has a right to privacy in dealing with his marital issues. Easier said than done when you are always in the public eye.

That said, the level of 'mumuism' and 'follow-followism' among CEC members is appalling to say the least.

Is it Nigerian Christians or Christians in general? Why do certain Christians switch off their brains when it concerns matters of 'Churchianity'?

Reading the comments of these brainwashed fanatics only shows that Nigerian youths have a very looooooong way to go.

Just look at how potentials are wasted all in the name of Christianity?

Mein Gott!

Before any loud mouth, empty brain, slow-poke opens their odoriferous buccal cavity to spew trash, please know that I was in BLW (infact, pioneered BLW at a certain private University) attended Christ Embassy, hobnobbed with a few pastors there, e.t.c so I know the workings of CE.

Zwei Dinge sind unendlich: das Universum und die menschliche Dummheit. Aber beim Universum bin ich mir nicht ganz sicher ~ Albert Einstein

Should we have followed you? I know your problem is the word 'follow'... it's scriptural to follow a Man of God...but then, I won't show u

Wallade: I am worried about Pastor Chris insinuations that his wife is not a "woman of God". If she is/was a minister in the church for over ten years, has been married to him for over ten years, has been part of the face of Christ Embassy - we see them and hear them on Rhapsody of Reality. I can not understand that insinuation.

Christ Embassy projected her as a minister and woman of God until recently that Pastor Chris said otherwise.

I can't understand why the pastor can't resolve his domestic issues at this stage of his life, so much that he needs the public and the court to judge and resolve his case. This isn't good enough for leadership. It is really late but not too late for the pastor to exhibit humility, tolerance, forgiveness and maturity.
May God help us.

Maybe you should read the OP again...He said "does not AUTOMATICALLY make" not "the wife of a Man of God is not a Woman of God"

Read well next time sir....as for the bold, I doubt you read the OP

Seun
Mynd
Mukina2

Please can you guys explain?
Meanwhile, my complain is, what rules or set of rules gives mods the right to change one's thresd name, even as the thread has no form of insult to anybody or group of persons? A thread not malicious. Why?