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Drummaboy, can you now change the topic of the thread, it's obvious we are interested in discussing something else.

[quote author=jdilight]

The thief came and stole from Adam. I want you to know that when God created Adam, he was created as a baby .

Wrong...Bible said
[KJV] Genesis 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Man not boy ...wife not girlfriend

Adam was empty, except for inspirations from God. It was the information that he was to get from God that would make him who he was to be and who his children will take after. That is why God was always coming to the garden to teach him. But before he was to mature the devil came and taught him through Eve a different thing which he bought. This changed the whole the plan.

1. God never leaves his throne...the Bible said The voice of the Lord came walking in the garden...that was Jesus!
2. The bold is a figment of your wild imagination, not the Bible.

Remember all this happened before Adam began to bear children, so when he began to bear children his children began to learn from him what he was doing which was a product of what he learned from the devil. So was the tradition passed down to us.

Adam passed sin nature to his kids and to all born into this world by the agency of a man.

But know God is beginning to teach us His way so we can be like him. That is while Jesus said know ye not that whosoever you obey his servant ye are.

Beginning to teach? Or has?
[KJV] Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;


That's why we have the Holy Spirit

The thief stole from Adam who passed it on to us through teaching (knowingly or unknowingly) and we learn it, that is while the bible said all have sinned. Because we learn sin from our parents, who learned from their parents and so on.

The life Jesus was talking about is the life of God (light) (john 1:9) which everyone who comes into this whole has before he losses it by learning to do what is in the world. That is while we are not of the world because we don't do the things of the world as born agains.

The life He’s talking about is the God kind of life that is totally above all things and incorruptible, indestructible....it's Zoe

Dragonking: If we are to go with this dumb idea, literally i was the first to ask why? and you never gave an answer.

So you are displaying the ignorance not me with your ninjas and butcher crap.

So this is the reason why you used 'but' to answer a 'Why' question?

Simple question and answer tag o..

Oya, let's try it again, why was peter with a sword? From you QED post

A: peter was with a sword because it was against the wish of Jesus

Hillarious

Joagbaje: He concealed himself . Hiding and mingling through the crowd. Any person with common sense should know what Jesus did here, don't try to be dishonest . There were several incidences. In Some cases he was protected supernaturally and others he took measures. Read the account here

John 8:59
They took up therefore stones that they might cast [them] at him; but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple, [going through the midst of them, and thus passed on.]

He HID! Not that the spirt made him invisible . He hid , and when he got the chance ,he mingled with the crowd to escape . Didn't he stay . But if critics like you hear that a MOG hid. You will make it front page .



Stop this nonsense. A man only take measure in the face of threat. And the measures you take depends on the threat .why didn't paul just pray. When he heard the Jews were coming for his head. But if it's MOG that requested for protection as paul did Critics like you will make it front page .

Exactly my thoughts, if they hear for example, as he wants pastor chris walk the streets of lagos, n he was about being mobbed, and he hid himself however and escaped, na this same guy go run come NL broadcast am.

And he's here claiming if he were a mighty man of God, he'd not need security

Dragonking: ^^^This is rubbish..no need to waste time with you.

They asked you "Why" in class you either out of semi literacy or embarrassing ignorance answered "but"... you really didn't do question tags in school.

jdilight: We need to be born again because we lost the first birth. Note the word again in the born. That word doesn't imply the natural birth as the first but a spiritual birth which was lost as did Adam when he sin.

John 3:16 and Roman 10:9, implies that each an everyone of us has lost the first birth. We did not loss that live because Adam sinned but because we have sinned on a personal note. I have tried to let people know that sin in not in the nature of man as I was instructed of God. But that is was learned by man. The nature of God is righteousness which is the nature of God. Man is a son of God not a son of satan. When did you hear that satan created man? Satan have been decieving man from the beginning, but God has decided to open man's eyes.

Explain John 10:10 please, what life was Jesus speaking about if we already have God’s life already?

Dragonking: Why didnt peter use the sword when the mob wanted to attack jesus in John 8:59? Where were his so-called body guards according to Gombs (Peter, james and john) that jesus had to hide before he walked pass through the mist of the mob?

You will only believe what you want to believe.

Ogbeni answer her/him joor... why was peter with a sword? Was he Sumarai or a gangster? Or butcher? Or suya man?

jdilight: Please no one born into this world was born a natural human life. All born into this world were born with Gods life. The gift of God are without repentance. Everyone of us threw the life of God in us away as did Adam.

Really? Why then do we need to get born again if we already came with it? Why then was John 3:16 and Romans 10:9 still very relevant today?

Oh well!... no need dragging with dragonking... posterity would judge for themselves

Calling Pastor Chris an Adulterer is even Hillarious....I can imagine the smile on his face on those allegations from the media

Joagbaje: So you didn't post it ehn? No wonder I was searching and searching for rhapsody on Nairaland yesterday I went to page 2 and 3 I couldn't find it. I came back to front page concluding it's there somewhere. Until I got tired of searching . Many people come on Nairaland to read rhapsody, pls make it more regular.

I should never repeat itself again...this is the first time it happened in 1year one month plus now.... I'm sure it won't repeat itself again

Joagbaje: ^^^^^^

Gombs how do you post all these images ? Can I do it with iPad?

They are gif pictures, you can get them online and put them here...if you type for example 'laughing gif' on google, it gives you searches, then select any site and choose a picture, eaxh picture always has a link which ends with .gif for example 'laughing.gif', copy the link, paste it here, highlight the link and use then use the image option when trting to make a new post.... it inserts the [img] and [/img] at the beginning and end of the link... that's all

You can quote that pic I put up and see what I mean

Dragonking: 1. According to my knowledge of the bible, Peter was always with jesus as i presume that jesus wanted to use peter as the rock upon which he would establish the Church. John was beloved by jesus so it is rational that he of all people will be with jesus. As for james, i believe is due to martyrdom..

Too much conjecture in your writ...and it's appalling. Peter, James and John by virtue of fheir occupation must have been muscular, I almost dropped my tab in epileptic laughter when you said James is due to matyrdom... and Jesus wanted to use Peter as the rock which he'd establish the Church, Peter is not any rock, , what Peter said was the rock on which the church stands. Quit assuming, go study

None of these men followed jesus in order to act as a body guard.

Yet they had swords with them? Where they butchers?

2. Peter carried the sword with him but it was never the instruction of jesus. Jesus rebuked Peter in

So Jesus NEVER knew Peter moved around with a sword? Mind explaining the below bold for me?

[NLT] Luke 22:38 “Look, Lord,” they replied, “we have two swords among us.” “That’s enough,” he said.

If you say Jesus Peter's possession of a sword was never in Jesus' knowledge, explain the above bold for me. Looks to me you are lying, for Jesus never lies.

the bible for taking his instructions to utilize a sword

[NLT] Luke 22:49 When the other disciples saw what was about to happen, they exclaimed, “Lord, should we fight? We brought the swords!”


Looks to me you don't have a Bible. Jesus knew of the those swords, infact, John was believed to be with the other, question is, why were they with swords? It's ok if you can't answer...remember I'm not here to convince you, like Jo said, I'm laying facts side by side for posterity sake and others who would be watching and reading, the rest is left for the Holy Spirit

literally. So ask yourself, why would he want them to carry swords if they were not to use them in the first place?

Refer to verse 49 above. You still never answer me o...why were they with swords? Were they Sumarai or Ninjas? Or Jesus had no knowledge of their possession of arms yet he knew Judas ws stealing from the bag and was indeed the devil?

How on earth did I forget to post yesterday's edition?

Divinity at Work in You-Thursday, September 11th.

Pastor Chris

The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.(John 10:10).

Everyone born into the world is born with the natural human life. Man, however, is a spirit being and needs the supernatural life to function to his full potentials. That’s the reason Jesus came to give us another kind of life—the God-kind of life. Anyone that has received Jesus as Lord has this life (1 John 5:11). The Apostle John, emphasizing this, declared, “These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life…” (1 John 5:13).

God wants you to have the consciousness of the divine life in you. He wants you to be aware that because of this divine life working in every fibre of your being, no one, and nothing, can destroy you. Ephesians 2:1 says, “And you [He made alive], when you were dead (slain) by [your] trespasses and sins” (AMP). Think about that: you were dead, but now you’re alive in Christ. Can you see why you’re indestructible and invincible? Life works in you. This is the right mindset for the believer in Christ; the Lord Jesus Christ came to this world, died in your place, and was raised from the dead to give you a new life that’s not susceptible to defeat, failure or death.

You should therefore live happy, joyful and in glory, victory, righteousness, dominion, and excellence. Live the triumphant life for which the Lord Jesus died. He didn’t die for nothing; He died for you to enjoy the benefits of the new life He’s given you. Therefore, refuse to be defeated or mesmerized by Satan; refuse to let sickness ravage your body! Say no to poverty and lack. Everyday, be conscious that divinity is at work in you! Glory to God!

Confession. ..
I’m life-conscious; life works in me! Every fibre of my being, every bone of my body, and every cell of my blood, is inundated with divine energy! I will never be defeated in this life; divinity is at work in me. Greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world. I’m alive to God! Halleluiah!

Further Study :
1 Timothy 6:12.
Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

John 5:26.
For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; ;

1 John 5:11.
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

Daily Scripture Reading
1-Year Bible Reading Plan:2 Corinthians 11:1-15, Proverbs 29-31
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: 2 Thessalonians 3:11-18, Jeremiah 29

Divinity at Work in You-Thursday, September 11th.

Pastor Chris

The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.(John 10:10).

Everyone born into the world is born with the natural human life. Man, however, is a spirit being and needs the supernatural life to function to his full potentials. That’s the reason Jesus came to give us another kind of life—the God-kind of life. Anyone that has received Jesus as Lord has this life (1 John 5:11). The Apostle John, emphasizing this, declared, “These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life…” (1 John 5:13).

God wants you to have the consciousness of the divine life in you. He wants you to be aware that because of this divine life working in every fibre of your being, no one, and nothing, can destroy you. Ephesians 2:1 says, “And you [He made alive], when you were dead (slain) by [your] trespasses and sins” (AMP). Think about that: you were dead, but now you’re alive in Christ. Can you see why you’re indestructible and invincible? Life works in you. This is the right mindset for the believer in Christ; the Lord Jesus Christ came to this world, died in your place, and was raised from the dead to give you a new life that’s not susceptible to defeat, failure or death.

You should therefore live happy, joyful and in glory, victory, righteousness, dominion, and excellence. Live the triumphant life for which the Lord Jesus died. He didn’t die for nothing; He died for you to enjoy the benefits of the new life He’s given you. Therefore, refuse to be defeated or mesmerized by Satan; refuse to let sickness ravage your body! Say no to poverty and lack. Everyday, be conscious that divinity is at work in you! Glory to God!

Confession. ..
I’m life-conscious; life works in me! Every fibre of my being, every bone of my body, and every cell of my blood, is inundated with divine energy! I will never be defeated in this life; divinity is at work in me. Greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world. I’m alive to God! Halleluiah!

Further Study :
1 Timothy 6:12.
Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

John 5:26.
For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; ;

1 John 5:11.
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

Daily Scripture Reading
1-Year Bible Reading Plan:2 Corinthians 11:1-15, Proverbs 29-31
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: 2 Thessalonians 3:11-18, Jeremiah 29

Dragonking: Is pastor chris in prison?

You said :
Protection as a free man? The answer is NO. he didt get protection.

From your logic, free men don't get protection.

Besides, you never answer why Peter was holding a sword! Was he a gangster? Or butcher?

Dragonking: Protection as a free man? The answer is NO. he didt get protection.

Is pastor chris a free man?

Dragonking: Where was paul when he sent information to the authorities? was he roaming freely or already in prison when he got the tip off?

Did he get protection? Yes or No

Joagbaje: Luke 22:36-39
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end. And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

The sword were for suya... or they must have borrowed it to cut grasses and wanted to return it the owners!

Joagbaje: Paul sent information to the authorities for his protection, and hundreds of soldiers were mobilized .he didn't call angel.

Gbam...let me watch him deny this truth

Joagbaje: He hid himself. Let's not twist anything. Why hid why escape?



Hiding is hiding . But don't say he disappeared supernaturally .



The deciples carried swords for your information . Either is gun or hiding , protection is protection, it's common sense.

I want to know why he think Peter was holding a sword? Or why peter objected whe Jesus was saying He was gonna die

Dragon king, a quiz quiz

1. Why were Peter, James and John always with Jesus... was it because they prayed berra? Or smarter than the rest?

2. Why was Peter with a sword? Was he a butcher or a gangster?

Mba, forget that guy....a vulture would always be envious of the Eagle.

Btw Deji, how's the thread going?

Dragonking: ^^^Guy shut up abeg..you just keep on saying trash and exposing your ignorance just because you are trying so hard to justify the wrongs of your master and saviour, pastor Chris. The picture says it all.. the write up and link is there for everyone to read and see.

Even his name sake carries armed men to the alter of god and there is nothing wrong too? but these same men want us to rely on God for divine protection meanwhile they themselves move around with protection from men not God.

Anyways, you can run away as you did the last time when i exposed your lies and that of Chris..

Bloody hypocritical liars.

You didn't explain why thd pope has Military body guards....any reason? Ah! He's the pope. But due to your bianess, u forgot to see he went on a function, like the handing over of lecture halls to oshiomhole, was he supposed to chase the Police away?

If not for total idiocy, which government would assign Mopol, DSS to guard Pastor Chris? See how silly you are?

I am going this far with u solely because it'd pain DB more!

Dragonking: Here is a picture of former prime minister david cameron in a public train without any security when he was still in office.

He didnt need men armed to the teeth and helicopters flying over the train..This is a man that doesnt really believe in God.

But your master, chris, whom claims to have the power of God cannot exercise or have confidence in that power, rather he moves around with armed men ready for battle. His adulterous twin brother carries body guard with guns even to the alter. SMH.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049939/David-Cameron-poses-photo-tube-passenger-failed-recognise-him.html

@Gombs, you are a brainwashed slave nothing more.

So if there were secret agents on the train, Cameron would announce that too?

So, he leaves his home and walk to a bus right? Your dim wittedness is legendary!

His car is £300, 000 Jaguar, tell him to drive round London with little or no guard in an audi A4 car....meanwhile I'm done with you till you post something intelligent, you've almost dragged me to your cesspit!

Dragonking: Real men like tony blair and even the present prime minister of England who are far more important enter commercial trains and buses with little or no security men following them..but your master chris who claims to be protected by God is moving around with heavily armed men and body guards to protect him from harm.

No wonder another pastor chris uses bodyguard even while on the alter of God.

SO, what your pastor is saying is either God cannot protect them or those bodyguards are better in protecting than God.

You can see how you are a brainwashed slave

with all d terror threat in england and such, u had the balls to come lie here that they move with little or no security.

do u knw how may sweeps were done on the train and bus?

do u knw how many helicopter monitor the train and bus?

do u knw how many secret agents are on the train or bus?

etc

but a smart kid like u stil thinks they wake one morning and take a stroll to the bus/train stations to catch a ride to work, with maybe 2-5 guys holding a baretta pistol!

Leave the media o, and your village....reality beckons!

You won't question why the pope has MILITARY Bodyguards trained in Switzerland abi Austria sef.... military o! Hypocrite

researchQ: I see you are one of them. You must be plain stupid for saying I changed my monicker cos I never did. Why don't you try and go up there yourself and see what is happening there instead of vomiting trash. God will punish all of you using other people's misfortunes and deceive them. It may take time but one day the whole thing will be exposed if not in this world on judgement day the whole world will see it.

until then, keep being bitter

mbaemeka: Gombs,

What I can gather is that Satan re-afflicted her but because she had stayed away from faith she caved and changed her confessions.

Whenever anyone goes to the HS and receives a healing they usually advice them to join a CEC for at least one month before going back to their own church (as most of the folks who go there are not CEC members QED)

They give such piece of advice because imagine if someone that attends Drummaboy's rebelious house fellowship gets healed in the HS and returns to his fellowship. Drum, will immediately tell the person that they were never healed and that healing is not for today. He will even bring other ignorant Pseudo-intellectuals like himself to say so.

There's one of them who has a PHD in the USA in something medically inclined. He claimed that a person who has suffered a HIV positive status for long could still fall into remissive phases in which the symptoms will cease and the status will test negative. Then he claimed that was what happened to Kenya28. Can you imagine the load of tosh emanating from a PHD holder o?

Anyways, Kenya28 went back to Kenya and visited a CEC church as she was advised to but then she let satan deceive her because not too long after she visited the church once, she then vowed never to go there again (because she claimed they were worshipping Pastor Chris). That was her first mistake.

Then next thing even though she kept talking faith (as she claimed) she started getting critical of healings and started imbibing the words of some of these confused fellows even on this thread. She used to be overly peevish and irked about little things. She stopped reading any ministry material she was given and she stopped picking the calls of those who tried to encourage her. Maybe her 4 friends were like her, so they went back to faithless and sense-ruled fellowships and just like Jesus said: satan stole the words from their hearts.

Then disaster struck and she had no faith to combat it. She refused to listen to those who wanted to help. Then she took vengeance on the HS and CEC as a whole (the same people she wanted nothing to do with after she got healed). She sided with the naysayers and even voiced out her regrets for ever testifying. Very sad stuff.

But the lady in Kenya that had cancer and was healed (and remained in CE) remained healed till date. The daughter of omopastor, Strive Masiwa etc even those from other good churches were faith in the word of God is taught all remained healed. There are actually more testimonies of those who simply received healings via TV than even those that go to the HS. So all the stories about stage-managing healings don't make any iota of sense.

But if badbelle dominates your life (like it does you know who and who). Then all you will see is all the nonsense that the few miscreants have said.

no mind them...i see DB is pained the thread is not going as he wished... I Didnt participate in the thread because then i hated Pastor Chris, but i knew then, not by anyone's teaching, never to curse men of God...and he was so cute on TV eh!

Dragonking: Picture of a Man of God moving around with heavy security armed with guns and ammunition ready for the kill.

I wonder what happened to the power of God that this man needs this much security?

MOG deceiving Nigerians since 1406

See my MOG o..swaggalicious, and it's killing some people here o ... I'm sure you would want Him mobbed, this is a man that has followership in millions, but u want him to walk the streets with out beign mobbed..meanwhile that small boy wiz kid is good enough to have security, because he is not a Man of God shey?

see how silliy ur reasoning is?

mbaemeka: Man, I wish you would go through her posts (Kenya28s) on that thread. She came of her own volition to give testimonies of the healings she saw with her very eyes. She said she used to think that the healing lines were short but to her surprise they had more than 1000 people at each session and that well more than half that number tried to testify but that the queues were too long and they could not even take all the testimonies.

She said she didn't get ministered to by Pastor Chris. That she had received her healing before he even got there by just applying her faith in the word of God. Then she left the HS and went to a hospital in SA to get another HIV test and it tested Negative. She even admitted that the nurses in the hospital despised the MOG and even said they didn't believe in the HS. This definitely means they would have done their test extra judiciously so that they could prove to her that she wasn't healed- they were wrong. She testified in that hospital and she said nobody could refute her because they could very well see that she had just tested negative.

Then she went back to Kenya and she said immediately all the symptoms she used to have as a result of being positive for 8years had all ceased. Even when Sir John argued with her, she was giving him many many instances of how sure she was.

Now more than a year passed after going to the HS and she got married and had a child. The hospital that usually does a test for pregnant women didn't tell her anything about her status. She even said she was feeling weak from time to time during the pregnancy but she attributed the feeling to the pregnancy. It was only after she had given birth (and about 3 months had passed) that she started re-seeing the same symptoms then she was re-tested and found to be positive.

Immediately, she ran back to NL to blame Pastor Chris and the healing school- yet she had already said he didn't minister to her and that she got healed by her own faith. Then Joagbaje was trying to get her to keep talking faith (he even wanted to pray for her via phone) but she stopped picking his calls.

Her testimony kept changing the angrier she felt. From I was healed to I was healed temporarily to I was never healed. Then the so-called testimonies of cancer-dying people (as if all her friends in the world were sick people). When Joagbaje asked her about a lady she knew in Kenya that she said got healed of cancer she refused to admit that the lady was still alive and kicking. She started insinuating that the lady will soon realise she was never healed and would die and later she said the lady was a member of CE so....

What is even funny is that when she started complaining about symptoms and Joagbaje recommended a CEC pastor in Kenya she said "even if I go there and get healed it would only last a year and I would have to go back again and again" (I am paraphrasing her). Now she's admitting she would be healed but is afraid she will not be able to maintain it- and this is not even the HS we are talking about.

I have many posers to raise on the issue but didn't think the liars and hypocrites are worth it. There is now a HS in Canada to add to the SA and Nigeria one (6 years after that thread was started). So of course, Sir John's mission failed miserably [size=18pt]Woefully[/size].

bro no mind these stiff necked fellas, since that time to now, Pastor Chris has been busy paying people all over the world to come for him to stage miracles and false testimonies...Pastor Chris must be a super pro, and there must be a whole bunch of cretins willing to sell their integrity for Pastor Chris to stage miracle with them, publish books with their faces and details and yet their neighbours who could have know these folks were never sick were also paid by pastor Chris to be silent...!

Cynthia's Transition


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2_ir_HjGHs

Lady with oxygen tank healed converted



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBBPHz95SBM