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joel lala: How many critically sick and diseased people did mother theresa touch every day of the week in a month when compared to nurses and doctors...Olodo ozu nwuruanwu

chukwudi44: bros the Catholic curch has dne more than this and yet does not advertise it.Pastor Chris is not even half as popular as Fr Mbaka in the east.We Catholics do not just vrush to dclare mircales but every sign and wonder are investigated and made to undrego a very strict process involving theologians and Doctors are involved before the Church Officially declares a miracle

Pastor Kun: This is really a good initiative and is similar to what Paul requested be done for the persecuted saints in Jerusalem. It's so sad that our church leadership in Nigeria has failed to live up to it's responsibility. Someone like Oritsejafor is more interested in cheap popularity by making noise against the activities of boko haram whilst ignoring his responsibility to lead the way in providing succour for the victims in his capacity as the president of CAN.

@Christembassey
God bless you for this initiative.

christemmbassey: [size=32pt] as u rightly said, this thread is old and abandoned [/size] but Bidam exhume it thinking that he can use it to blackmail me all bc i r quoted james 4:17 to correct him as he insist on tithe fraud in another thread n very unfortunately gombs his fellow fraudster join in d mischief trying shamelessly to twist d Op to make it appear a7 if i was beging ppl to pay money to my a/c, imagine d level ppl can decend to just bc they think am attacking their oil well. Now, this is my problem with Bidam, from most of his posts in Nl, Bidam knows that christians are nnt commanded/supposed to pay tithe, but bc he is a beneficiary of d scam, he insist on d fraud claiming God reveal it to him. This hs as far as am concerned d hight of hypocrisy n wicked dishonesty. Bidam knows d truth but lack d grace to call off d scam n d duty of every christian is to shut them(scammers) up. Titus 1:10-11.

Joagbaje: Check this out . This is what pastors do


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXM960QtnXQ

ajayikayod: Bro, i believe u kno dt d way ds thread is going is already getting into carnal discussions, abuses and use of wrong words. U, me and nobody ll b edified lik ds at d end of d day. Its no more doctrinal issues dt are bein discussed, its now personalty attack on both sides.

If wat he s doing is not scriptural then we can point dt out 4discussion but if its scriptural, irrespective of d Op personalty, we shouldnt compare or point out his disagreements on other places in d scripture to judge his post. Giving is an explicit doctrine of d believer so lets talk on d Op not d personalty of d posters.

ukotmi: Both CAN and CAN are doing a lot already to help xtians in the north. They are rebuilding churches, feeding orphans and taking care of widows. Maybe, both bodies need to increase the tempo. Individual churches are also doing much to help the situation. They are not making noise. Most of the money they are spending helping in the north comes from tithes and offering.

chukwudi44: That's catholic style . Laying empty hands on empty head it's not bible.

Besides pastors do lay hands on sick . Except if they are many. You heal the sick by command . It's not every sick case that requires hand laying . Jesus didn't lay hands on every body.

I don't have any problem if you pope is busy taking photos with leepers , that's his business . But don't use is to judge others because that's not Jesus command . HEAL THE SICK , CAST OUT DEVILS.

I ACTUALY KNEW YOU WERE STUPID BUT JUST DID NOT REALISE YOU ARE THIS STUPID.DO YOU WANT US TO START COMPARING MIRACKES FROM CATHOLIC CHURCHES TO YOUR PASTOR CHRIS ARRANGE TV 'MIRACLES'.

OLODO GO TO THE EAST AND SEE IF YOUR JERRY CURL PASTOR CAN MATCH THE CHARISMA OF FR EJIKE MBAKA AND OTHERS CATHOLIC PRIESTS AND EVEN LAITY.THAT CATHOLICS DO NOT ADVERTIOSE THEIR MIRACLS ON TV DOES NOT MEAN THEY DO NOT PERFORM MIRACLES

christemmbassey: bros do u have brain at all? What do u want my a/c no for, are u dis foolish? GHM.

ajayikayod: Why turning d Op post to tithe discussion.

ajayikayod: The man was clear on wat he tot necessary, we only need to agree, disagree or giv advice.

ajayikayod: Becos d Op doesnt believ in Tithing or attack some ppl on tithing doesnt mean he cant come up wit ideas on how to contribute money to help ppl

ajayikayod: and i never see him writing dt u should send him d cash.

ajayikayod: and definately, helping others is never an offence in d scripture.

ajayikayod: Lets try to be open minded in dealing wit issues. Both d tither or non tither hav other ways of giving and dts d way d Op called on (free will giving).

Afam4eva: Why the dash(-) in your comment. I hope you know it's not wise running and talking at the same time

Afam4eva: Have a merry filled running. When put on the spot, you remove your shoe and take off.

Afam4eva: I don't have time to engage in a verbal pilgrimage with you. Save us some time and show us where a pastor have laid hands on an obviously diseased person. I'm not here to answer questions. I've answered enough to last for a lifetime.

Afam4eva: Why don't you present us with a bold and cogent prove instead of gallivanting with words. I only highlighted the fact that our Pastors in Nigeria have left the true essence of Christianity to pursue vanity.

Afam4eva: Because i've never seen them do it. Why don't you prove otherwise.

Afam4eva: Do doctors touch people like that without their gloves on? And is it not the job of doctors to do that? if they don't touch the diseased(though with gloves on), then who will?

Sal C: So sickness is now thesame as sin. Please stop that joke.

Sal C: So sickness is now thesame as sin. Please stop that joke.

Sal C: My dear nobody dey bring. sickness. Sickness is brought about when your system is invaded by organism that are not supposed to be there and they end up over powering your immune system or when there is abnormality in the gene as in the case of the man in question.

Stop giving the devil credit for what he did not do.

Afam4eva: It's obvious you've not been paying attention. I wasn't talking about the performing a miracle cos no miracle happened. He just layed his hand on a sick man and that's what i'm emphasizing on. How many pastors will agree to touch the body of a diseased person.

Bidam: God bless you jare..This people are just pure hypocrite, they say one thing and do another.If i was the one that opened this thread now..eh! The bashing wey i for receive for make Jesus bashing wey im receive pale in comparism.Any way we are watching.

Bidam: Who give you the ministry to discuss a fixed 1000 naira ponzi scheme.I Hope no be the Jesus wey i know sha.

christemmbassey: i know say na only to collect tithe u sabi, pls get sm to interpret d OP for you, i said, "leets discuss how we can help" i NEVER said, send money to me/my account, did u pass ssce at all? So bc i'm against fraud, i cant discus with genuine christians how to help d northern brethren?

DrummaBoy: Well I must thank Bidam who reffered us to this thread from another one:



Although the acerbic nature of the "referral" was totally uncalled for. If someone thinks Christians in the north need some help, is it totally out of place?

To the pure all things are pure. It takes a froward person to think ill into an laudable idea that is originally from a Christlike thinking.

When some will think of Charity, they would only think of buying Jets for their Pastors. It would do us a lot of good to be able to distinguish motives and become truly Christlike in our motives and action.

For me, the idea Christembassey raised in the OP, is of God and very much like the one Paul was associated with in raising help for Jerusalem Christians that were under famine.

christemmbassey: I have been waiting and praying for a while since the advent of the devilish activities of the satanic boko haram, expecting to see our big MOG, thier big churches, PFN, CAN' or even rich individual christians, preach, encourage and actually organize a kind of programme where christians especially in the south will be opportuned to contribute something to sucour our northern brethren. Now it appears if we wait for the mog or churches our brethren will never be relieved. FOR ALL SEEKETH THIER OWN, NONE SEEKETH CHRIST'S. It is very painful to see some lost thier lives, parents, children, pastors, churches, properties etc while some are flying aimlessly arround with their privaje jets, (what's wrong with that' nothing), cruising arround whith customized jeeps/exorted cars on convoy, live in mansions, with thier retinue of PAs,etc for the same gospel, pls consider Mat. 7:22-23 and Mat.25:31-46. THIS IS FOR (GENUINE)? Christians, I want us to discus how we can set up a relief fund where we cand all send N1,000 each to rebuild church and lives in northern Nigeria. Pls read Nehemiah 1:1-4, nehemiah 2:1-20. DO SOMETHING-THE HOUSE OF GOD MUST BE REBUILD. U R BLESSED

christemmbassey: I have been waiting and praying for a while since the advent of the devilish activities of the satanic boko haram, expecting to see our big MOG, thier big churches, PFN, CAN' or even rich individual christians, preach, encourage and actually organize a kind of programme where christians especially in the south will be opportuned to contribute something to sucour our northern brethren. Now it appears if we wait for the mog or churches our brethren will never be relieved. FOR ALL SEEKETH THIER OWN, NONE SEEKETH CHRIST'S. It is very painful to see some lost thier lives, parents, children, pastors, churches, properties etc while some are flying aimlessly arround with their privaje jets, (what's wrong with that' nothing), cruising arround whith customized jeeps/exorted cars on convoy, live in mansions, with thier retinue of PAs,etc for the same gospel, pls consider Mat. 7:22-23 and Mat.25:31-46. THIS IS FOR (GENUINE)? Christians, I want us to discus how we can set up a relief fund where we cand all send N1,000 each to rebuild church and lives in northern Nigeria. Pls read Nehemiah 1:1-4, nehemiah 2:1-20. DO SOMETHING-THE HOUSE OF GOD MUST BE REBUILD. U R BLESSED

joel lala: I am nt against the catholic church but the funny thing about most people is that all this is publicity stunt without them knowing..at the end the man was not healed...people here amazed at what the pope did are funny to me..why? [size=32pt] Becos what the pope did by touching the sickman is what various nurses and doctors have being doing since even more yet they were nt amazed by that...SMH.. [/size]

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Kennyroy24: for me I guess this pope is really different for all others.. this is how we as humans are suppose to act not pretending. have your own niche...

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Sal C: Empty bragging by those stage fake healing shows.
We know better, a man who is sick has finnally been tagged demon possesed.

Afam4eva: God cures the sick and not the pastors pope. Is the gesture that's most important to me. This is definition of selflessness and love for the common man. The Pastors in Nigeria are only interested in fleecing the poor of the poor on the alter of private jet and neglecting the tenets of Christianity which includes love.

Joagbaje: Firstly a pastor or christian can heal the sick or cast out devils . It's a command Ftom God.

See the instruction Jesus gave.

Matthew 10:8
Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils:freely ye have received, freely give.

Did the pope cast out the devil ?

Bring the man over to Nigeria and see how the devils get cast out by the ministers you are criticizing .



That's catholic style . Laying empty hands on empty head it's not bible.

Besides pastors do lay hands on sick . Except if they are many. You heal the sick by laying hands and you drive out devils by command . It's not every sick case that requires hand laying . Jesus didn't lay hands on every body.

I don't have any problem if you pope is busy taking photos with leepers , that's his business . But don't use is to judge others because that's not Jesus command . HEAL THE SICK , CAST OUT DEVILS.



Does your pope fly commercial plane? They even have to custom build a special bullet proof car for him, what's the name again? Popecade or something . Whatever.

I don't have problem with your rejoicing over public photograph . It's good pope packaging . But if you want to criticise others by using your photograph as standard for Christianity Think twice . Ministers do touch when such need arise but it's a touch for cure.