₦airaland Forum

Acidosis: You guys should stop twisting the whole thing.

OP clearly state 'priest', why una fingers dey type 'Pastor'?

Its obvious... the kind of hatred that run in minds of Nairalanders against Pastors

Very soon, the private jet crew would overtake the thread with the hope that a Pastor is involved.

christemmbassey: well some of us don't know diplomacy, especialy, when it concerns d truth, anybody who says dat tithe is not obligatory n malachi was specificaly written to d jews priests but still turn to say i collect/give tithe bc of revelation, to me dat person is nt only a thief, liar but also hypocrite, bc it is very clear that he iusist on d fraud bc he benefits. Its like knowing dat bribe is wrong but u give/take bc u benefit. I ave read ur posts on other issues n i noticed dat we share d same view on most issues which i told u many times if u can b honest, dat collection of tithe is d only gulf btween u n i. So u are my real bros, dats y i must pursue u until u drop this bigest fraud in human history. As for derailling this thread, don't worry, God will make a way for his ppl.

italo: Some people HATE Catholicism so much that they always look for bad, even in an obviously good deed done by a Catholic or the Catholic Church.

I just wonder if this people are godly or devilish.

God bless the Pope and peace to all people of goodwill.

Bidam: You are even derailing your
thread by this post here..Pls do go thru the rules and skool urself
properly before discussing with anyone here.

moreso i am not your real bro.. A bro doesn't call people liars,fraud
and threaten them with hell. Thanks.

ajayikayod: @Bidam and @christemmbassey. Pls i implore u to let ds defamation of personalities and use of strong words cease. Pls stop harming yourselves. Ds wont edify or make no one better but can affect d way d outsider sees d Christians on NL.

Tanx.

chukwudi44: Bros I ask you again don't we have sick people in CE? Does Pastor chris heal and protect all CE members? So every member of christ embassy lives till old age devoid of sickness and other ills of life? Is that the point you are trying to make?

chukwudi44: Smh I know understand how dangerous the prosperity gospel can be? If I may ask you why did God allow the apostles to suffer and pass through such horrific deaths? How do you explain that on the light of your prosperity gospel?

So lepers do not deserve to be tended to? Are they not humans?

free radical: This guy thank God not all xtians reason like you. Utter lack of the cardinal virtue of Charity. SMH

chukwudi44: James 1:27

Pure religion and undefiled before our God and Father is this, to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, `and' to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

Matthew 25:31-46

New King James Version (NKJV)

The Son of Man Will Judge the Nations

31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy[a] angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’

41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’

44 “Then they also will answer Him,[b] saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

chukwudi44: Bros this verse cannot justify advertisement of miracles expecially when there are unverified."Go tell your friends".Jesus did not broadcast it.In several instances he told the people he cured not to tell anyone about it.

chukwudi44: Yeah he did the same God who could have prevented him from getting infected allowed him to die as a supreme sacrifice for a cause.The same God allowed Peter,Paul and several other apostles to be matyred by the roman authourities even when he had the power to save them.


BTW do you mean to tell me we don't have sick people in christ embassy? So your Pastors heals all yours sick people ? You really want me to believe that?

chukwudi44: If you need more I can give you.Go and google Father Damien of Molokai and hios work with the lepers.He spent his time personally tending to the lepers till he got infected !!!

chukwudi44: Bros Jesus [b][size=64pt]never[/size] healed anyone and asked them to broadcast it. [/b] on the contrary he even restrained some from spreading the news.The apostles reported the gospels for us to believe and not as an advertisement.If you watch 'testimonies' on Tv especially froom fanatics like the Lord's chosen you will find out that the major reason for the show is not to spread the good nees rather to promote their church brand especially the name of their apron god of chosen

joel lala: How many critically sick and diseased people did mother theresa touch every day of the week in a month when compared to nurses and doctors...Olodo ozu nwuruanwu

chukwudi44: bros the Catholic curch has dne more than this and yet does not advertise it.Pastor Chris is not even half as popular as Fr Mbaka in the east.We Catholics do not just vrush to dclare mircales but every sign and wonder are investigated and made to undrego a very strict process involving theologians and Doctors are involved before the Church Officially declares a miracle

Pastor Kun: This is really a good initiative and is similar to what Paul requested be done for the persecuted saints in Jerusalem. It's so sad that our church leadership in Nigeria has failed to live up to it's responsibility. Someone like Oritsejafor is more interested in cheap popularity by making noise against the activities of boko haram whilst ignoring his responsibility to lead the way in providing succour for the victims in his capacity as the president of CAN.

@Christembassey
God bless you for this initiative.

christemmbassey: [size=32pt] as u rightly said, this thread is old and abandoned [/size] but Bidam exhume it thinking that he can use it to blackmail me all bc i r quoted james 4:17 to correct him as he insist on tithe fraud in another thread n very unfortunately gombs his fellow fraudster join in d mischief trying shamelessly to twist d Op to make it appear a7 if i was beging ppl to pay money to my a/c, imagine d level ppl can decend to just bc they think am attacking their oil well. Now, this is my problem with Bidam, from most of his posts in Nl, Bidam knows that christians are nnt commanded/supposed to pay tithe, but bc he is a beneficiary of d scam, he insist on d fraud claiming God reveal it to him. This hs as far as am concerned d hight of hypocrisy n wicked dishonesty. Bidam knows d truth but lack d grace to call off d scam n d duty of every christian is to shut them(scammers) up. Titus 1:10-11.

Joagbaje: Check this out . This is what pastors do


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXM960QtnXQ

ajayikayod: Bro, i believe u kno dt d way ds thread is going is already getting into carnal discussions, abuses and use of wrong words. U, me and nobody ll b edified lik ds at d end of d day. Its no more doctrinal issues dt are bein discussed, its now personalty attack on both sides.

If wat he s doing is not scriptural then we can point dt out 4discussion but if its scriptural, irrespective of d Op personalty, we shouldnt compare or point out his disagreements on other places in d scripture to judge his post. Giving is an explicit doctrine of d believer so lets talk on d Op not d personalty of d posters.

ukotmi: Both CAN and CAN are doing a lot already to help xtians in the north. They are rebuilding churches, feeding orphans and taking care of widows. Maybe, both bodies need to increase the tempo. Individual churches are also doing much to help the situation. They are not making noise. Most of the money they are spending helping in the north comes from tithes and offering.

chukwudi44: That's catholic style . Laying empty hands on empty head it's not bible.

Besides pastors do lay hands on sick . Except if they are many. You heal the sick by command . It's not every sick case that requires hand laying . Jesus didn't lay hands on every body.

I don't have any problem if you pope is busy taking photos with leepers , that's his business . But don't use is to judge others because that's not Jesus command . HEAL THE SICK , CAST OUT DEVILS.

I ACTUALY KNEW YOU WERE STUPID BUT JUST DID NOT REALISE YOU ARE THIS STUPID.DO YOU WANT US TO START COMPARING MIRACKES FROM CATHOLIC CHURCHES TO YOUR PASTOR CHRIS ARRANGE TV 'MIRACLES'.

OLODO GO TO THE EAST AND SEE IF YOUR JERRY CURL PASTOR CAN MATCH THE CHARISMA OF FR EJIKE MBAKA AND OTHERS CATHOLIC PRIESTS AND EVEN LAITY.THAT CATHOLICS DO NOT ADVERTIOSE THEIR MIRACLS ON TV DOES NOT MEAN THEY DO NOT PERFORM MIRACLES

christemmbassey: bros do u have brain at all? What do u want my a/c no for, are u dis foolish? GHM.

ajayikayod: Why turning d Op post to tithe discussion.

ajayikayod: The man was clear on wat he tot necessary, we only need to agree, disagree or giv advice.

ajayikayod: Becos d Op doesnt believ in Tithing or attack some ppl on tithing doesnt mean he cant come up wit ideas on how to contribute money to help ppl

ajayikayod: and i never see him writing dt u should send him d cash.

ajayikayod: and definately, helping others is never an offence in d scripture.

ajayikayod: Lets try to be open minded in dealing wit issues. Both d tither or non tither hav other ways of giving and dts d way d Op called on (free will giving).

Afam4eva: Why the dash(-) in your comment. I hope you know it's not wise running and talking at the same time

Afam4eva: Have a merry filled running. When put on the spot, you remove your shoe and take off.

Afam4eva: I don't have time to engage in a verbal pilgrimage with you. Save us some time and show us where a pastor have laid hands on an obviously diseased person. I'm not here to answer questions. I've answered enough to last for a lifetime.

Afam4eva: Why don't you present us with a bold and cogent prove instead of gallivanting with words. I only highlighted the fact that our Pastors in Nigeria have left the true essence of Christianity to pursue vanity.

Afam4eva: Because i've never seen them do it. Why don't you prove otherwise.

Afam4eva: Do doctors touch people like that without their gloves on? And is it not the job of doctors to do that? if they don't touch the diseased(though with gloves on), then who will?

Sal C: So sickness is now thesame as sin. Please stop that joke.