₦airaland Forum

italo: Although the Church teaches that offering some form of material support to the Church is obligatory for all Catholic adults who are able to do so, it doesn't specify what percent of one's income should be given. Remember, tithing was an Old Testament obligation that was incumbent on the Jews under the Law of Moses. Christians are dispensed from the obligation of tithing ten percent of their incomes, but not from the obligation to help the Church.

The key to understanding how God wants us to give to the Church is found in 1 Corinthians 16:2, "On the first day of the week [Sunday] each of you should set aside whatever he can afford," and in 2 Corinthians 9:5-8,

"So I thought it necessary to encourage the brothers to go on ahead to you and arrange in advance for your promised gift [donation], so that in this way it might be ready as a bountiful gift and not as an exaction. Consider this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. Each must do as already determined without sadness or compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. Moreover, God is able to make every grace abundant for you, so that in all things, always having all you need, you may have an abundance for every good work."

To paraphrase: God doesn't demand a fixed amount of money from us; he wants us to give from the heart. If people are forced by their church to give a certain percent of their income, that's extortion. If they give freely and cheerfully the amount they are able, that's a gift.

http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/what-is-the-churchs-position-on-tithing

chukwudi44: That parish priest should be sanctioned!! He is a very big disgrace to the Catholic church. That Practice is not in consonance with the teaching of the church and not contained in the Cathchism of the Catholic Church

italo: If your account is accurate, this is new and distasteful to my ears.

texazzpete: So we can chalk it up to extreme wickedness on your part that there are still thousands of sickened, diseased people suffering in lagos when you're around?

Kenny4lyfe: I dey O!
No mind dem, they're just been hypnotic about the whole stuff!
While it's not a bad thing to embrace the afflicted!
Why make so much hype out of it?
What about a much more effective hug/touch of faith to heal?
Have we thrown that in the trashcan too?
Na wa for this people O!
They also failed to realize that most of us moved from orthodox homes into the prosperously glorious christianity!

Kenny4lyfe: ^^^
**Takes the post sqizz it as I would a paper and dump it in the trashcan of ignonimy**

Hi Gombs!

nwadaigbo: that guy is just ignorant. [size=32pt]Christ himself was even crucified bc of works of charity and miracles that offended the jewish custom[/size]. You are going far by talking about d apostles. Usee christ himself whom all of us profess to give him example.he is God, yet mere mortals killed him.not to talk about his followers. Leave all these pentecostal brainwashed fish brains alone. They hav all alllowed their fellow humans to think and reason for them and theirs is just yo sit and be manipulated. Pathetic. Muslims understand christ better than most of all theses pentecostals.

nwadaigbo: your type is the reason why non believers will neva be converted or won for christ. Your type is the reason why non believers mock christianity. Your insanity knows no bound. You are indeed a shallow brain and brainwashed dullard

There's are many disfigured people around us.

Any pentecostal who is jealous that the Pope showed love and compassion to this man should go and heal a person like that man instantly and give us the pictures.

bebe2: Those pics brought tears to my eyes

eddiebruk: Healing someone out of pity to me cannot be considered a miracle, all those that were healed in the bible showed some strength of faith, so we're did the pity come from....?

free2ryhme: FoR once I hailed the Pope on this one. No Nigerian pastoR Reverend will ever try dis. I stand to be coRRected.

italo: Thank you. Evening mass will be fine, God willing.

May the souls of all the faithful departed through the mercy of God rest in peace.

St. Leo, pray for us. Amen.

Mellin: catholics have priest ..Anglican have priest too...

priest ..pastor.. all na d same..
I won't mention any church here

I just need to know if its right which I have already found out from y'all ..and thanks

italo: Of course I know.

I just want him to clarify for some people here:

Acidosis and Gombs

Acidosis: You guys should stop twisting the whole thing.

OP clearly state 'priest', why una fingers dey type 'Pastor'?

Its obvious... the kind of hatred that run in minds of Nairalanders against Pastors

Very soon, the private jet crew would overtake the thread with the hope that a Pastor is involved.

christemmbassey: well some of us don't know diplomacy, especialy, when it concerns d truth, anybody who says dat tithe is not obligatory n malachi was specificaly written to d jews priests but still turn to say i collect/give tithe bc of revelation, to me dat person is nt only a thief, liar but also hypocrite, bc it is very clear that he iusist on d fraud bc he benefits. Its like knowing dat bribe is wrong but u give/take bc u benefit. I ave read ur posts on other issues n i noticed dat we share d same view on most issues which i told u many times if u can b honest, dat collection of tithe is d only gulf btween u n i. So u are my real bros, dats y i must pursue u until u drop this bigest fraud in human history. As for derailling this thread, don't worry, God will make a way for his ppl.

italo: Some people HATE Catholicism so much that they always look for bad, even in an obviously good deed done by a Catholic or the Catholic Church.

I just wonder if this people are godly or devilish.

God bless the Pope and peace to all people of goodwill.

Bidam: You are even derailing your
thread by this post here..Pls do go thru the rules and skool urself
properly before discussing with anyone here.

moreso i am not your real bro.. A bro doesn't call people liars,fraud
and threaten them with hell. Thanks.

ajayikayod: @Bidam and @christemmbassey. Pls i implore u to let ds defamation of personalities and use of strong words cease. Pls stop harming yourselves. Ds wont edify or make no one better but can affect d way d outsider sees d Christians on NL.

Tanx.

chukwudi44: Bros I ask you again don't we have sick people in CE? Does Pastor chris heal and protect all CE members? So every member of christ embassy lives till old age devoid of sickness and other ills of life? Is that the point you are trying to make?

chukwudi44: Smh I know understand how dangerous the prosperity gospel can be? If I may ask you why did God allow the apostles to suffer and pass through such horrific deaths? How do you explain that on the light of your prosperity gospel?

So lepers do not deserve to be tended to? Are they not humans?

free radical: This guy thank God not all xtians reason like you. Utter lack of the cardinal virtue of Charity. SMH

chukwudi44: James 1:27

Pure religion and undefiled before our God and Father is this, to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, `and' to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

Matthew 25:31-46

New King James Version (NKJV)

The Son of Man Will Judge the Nations

31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy[a] angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’

41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’

44 “Then they also will answer Him,[b] saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

chukwudi44: Bros this verse cannot justify advertisement of miracles expecially when there are unverified."Go tell your friends".Jesus did not broadcast it.In several instances he told the people he cured not to tell anyone about it.

chukwudi44: Yeah he did the same God who could have prevented him from getting infected allowed him to die as a supreme sacrifice for a cause.The same God allowed Peter,Paul and several other apostles to be matyred by the roman authourities even when he had the power to save them.


BTW do you mean to tell me we don't have sick people in christ embassy? So your Pastors heals all yours sick people ? You really want me to believe that?

chukwudi44: If you need more I can give you.Go and google Father Damien of Molokai and hios work with the lepers.He spent his time personally tending to the lepers till he got infected !!!

chukwudi44: Bros Jesus [b][size=64pt]never[/size] healed anyone and asked them to broadcast it. [/b] on the contrary he even restrained some from spreading the news.The apostles reported the gospels for us to believe and not as an advertisement.If you watch 'testimonies' on Tv especially froom fanatics like the Lord's chosen you will find out that the major reason for the show is not to spread the good nees rather to promote their church brand especially the name of their apron god of chosen