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Savant:
I did a little research concerning the issues between Pastor Chris and his wife when I stumbled unto that viral message he had with his pastors in UK. So when I saw this message on Nairaland my interest was further piqued. I don't know which faction is saying the absolute truth but from the viral message I came up with the following:

1. Chris wanted to save his marriage. He refused to let anyone take sides and he insisted he and his wife were one.

2. Whatever issues they had, (even though he didn't state it) we can infer that it had to do with a power tussle and perhaps his views on submission in marriage.

3. I say power tussle because he referred to the fact that before marriage, Pastor Anita was a member of Rev Tom's church. Which to me was his subtle way of saying she was under someone's authority and will not become spiritually superior to him just because of marriage.

4. I also said submission in marriage, because he alluded to a message on marriage he made that perhaps rubbed Anita the wrong way. Some way in the message he said "I am not a fool. I cannot preach a message that will be detrimental to my children. I have 2 girls"

5. I am assuming his position on marriage according to that message made women totally answerable to their husbands. There is a reason to believe this because her divorce document had a statement that related to her not agreeing with his position on marriage and claiming it was too extreme.

6. She didn't accuse him of Adultery.

7. It is very possible that she asked for some female pastors to be sacked. Perhaps this is also why he said he answered to God and would not disobey God to please anybody. He hinted at that in his "I am a MOG not a preacher" message and asked the church to pray for her.

8. Whatever abuse she felt, maybe it was because some ministry decisions were taken without her or that he refused to listen to her advice that he should let the said female pastors go. I doubt he was physically abusing her or using caustic words on her. Female kids usually take their mum's side in such a situation and I don't get the impression that his children are at loggerheads with him.

9. Whatever it is, since the family want to keep it private, then people should leave them be.

My 2 cents.

vooks:
What part of Numbers 12 indicates remarrying or a second marriage to your depraved mind?

Is this the latest straw you are clinging to hoping Oyaks will remarry Anita?
Bunch of m0rons

vooks:
When you run out of the little wits Oyaks has not corrupted you resort to gifs. Stop giggling like a m0ron and be still. You will learn a lot by hanging with wiseman vooks

Let's move on. Is there any proof that Cush(ites) were not restricted to Sudan/Ethiopia?

1. Please look up a ~200BC play revolving around Exodus called Exagoge penned by one Egyptian Jewish playwright by the name Ezekiel. He says Zipporah and her family emigrated to Midian and originally came from Gaddafi land in North Africa

2. Syrian writers of 5th century AD describe inhabitants of Southern Arabia (where Midia @) as Cushites and Ethiopians

I could go on, but the point is there is ample evidence that Cushites spread beyond Ethiopia into the Arabian peninsula. Zippy was both a Midianite and Cushite

vooks:
The same way we have African Americans dummy!
Cush is a region but Cushites did move all over just as everybody else.

vooks:
1.Moses had one wife
2. Moses' wife was Zipporah
3. Zipporah was BOTH Midianite and Ethiopian/Cushite

vooks:
Repeat,
Zipporah was both Cushite and Midianite, but as they say with fools, silence magically quadruples their IQ.

vooks:
[s]
To gods like you, right?

For Joagbaje, I pity his sheeple. For a negro who believes Adam was not the first man, he is depraved beyond redemption, but I digress.

Zipporah was both a Midianite and a Cushite just as Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean-Jacques Wamutombo is both Congolese and American[/s]

vooks:
There is no 'other one' just one and the same person

Image123:
Make una no vex my people as i no get anything to talk for this matter. Just a little rusty, abeg what is the issue about Moses once separated from his wife
and married an African woman. until his wife was
later brought back. i'm not sure i recall this episode, please where's it again, thank you.

Joagbaje:
Leave matter. Let us all dwell on bible truth . There's no need of contention all these drama of getting personal is a simple sign of when someone has no place to hide . Truth is in the bible . Present it.

Image123:
Don't mind Jo, he is prejudiced because it is his pastor's friend. If it was Anita or somebody not recognised by his pastor, he will not be here defending the so called prediction.

LambanoPeace:
Thank you gombs! What I learnt are;

Pastor Anita never accused him of adultery

Pastor Chris didn't divorce his wife

And pastor Chris didn't have any property in his name. (that's some humility). Though someone on here asked how come Anita didn't know this, I think she didn't know these because it wasn't material at the time she was with him, and if he did have, a law firm like her lawyers would have dug it all out.

So, two things.. He'd have lied if he said he didn't have any property to his name, if he actually did, and since the lawyers couldn't find any, I believe the OP.

Also, since she didn't accuse him of adultery, that clears me even further. She left him, he didn't push for a divorce, so in other words, he is not to be blamed.

Was she abused? Well, depending on the context.... it may never be physical abuse, nor even emotional, and even of it's emotional, it could be simply that Pastor Chris ignored her demands and she was pained by it for so long a period up until now. Let's not assume he abused her just because she said so, like gombs said... He's told the whole world he didn't do it, she said she was abused... let God be the judge. Me thinks we should leave this matter be, they've separated already. Life and ministry goes on.

Cheers

Candour:
You are free to make claims my friend. Olumba olumba also claims to be a church of God, do you think I should be scared of calling them a cult?

What's the difference between you who mindlessly defends oyaks and militants who mindlessly defend their murderous rampage?

Candour:
Which means you now admit you painted Anita a liar? Especially when you absolve pastor Chris of any wrong doing?

As for CEC growing, they're in the same group with militant Islam my friend......THEY'RE BOTH GROWING and the murderers also appeal to familiarity with God to explain it

Candour:


You're clutching at straws my friend.

Anita claims she was abused in her marriage. She regrets tolerating abuse for so long in her marriage. Do you need me to tell you who she was married to? So you can know who the abuser she refers to is? If you say oyaks didn't abuse her contrary to what she said, isn't that painting her a liar?

Joagbaje:
As much as I don't want to enter this matter I don't think Gombs tried to paint anybody bad in his post. He laid the blame on family members and lawyer who tried to put fire by being wrong influence .

vooks:
Negro,
You are carrying a heavy burden; proving Anita was ignorant of Oyaks wealth and that she was NEVER abused.

Candour, pray for this junior to receive some sense

Candour:
See what Anita said in her own words

“My story is not one of a bed of roses, far from it but I had a choice to either beat myself over the regret of tolerating abuse for so long or put a stop to the abuse and recreate my life for the best.

http://dailypost.ng/2015/08/18/i-tolerated-abuse-for-so-long-anita-oyakhilome-breaks-silence-on-divorce/

Was she lying or not with what she said above?

After you answer, come back so I can tell if you painted her a liar or not then possibly apologise to you.

Candour:
If it happened to mere mortals like you and I, its because we lack the faith or we're simply not Christians. Now that it happened to the ultimate 'god of man' in Nigeria, Jo suddenly remembers there's something called "Will of God".

I remember all the arguments we've had on issues like this since 2012. I remember the WOF thread and similar threads where I and others tried to make them see that their doctrines place them in a bubble easily deflated by reality but they said all sorts in defence.

I never bothered myself with this drama since it broke in 2014 because I saw it as simply another case of man and wife problems and his horde of loyal folks will fight dirty to defend him. However, Gombs in trying to defend his master had no qualms about putting down Anita forgetting that he or others have opened [size=18]threads in the past [/size] to extol her virtues as a pastor, spiritual mother, celebrate her birthday etc. He even went as far as painting her as a liar for alleging she was abused then playing dumb when paxonel asked him to explain.

Is this the first time Jo flips and flops? My brother, it must be an attribute of their 'godhood' o otherwise why hasn't he paid good 'ol sirJohn his 500k?

daretodiffer:
You don't have a life

You can never have one

No offence, I am just being sincere

Candour:
Gombs is an insider obviously. He confirmed it himself otherwise how did he know that oyaks had nothing to his name and Anita, the wife and associate pastor of 22 years didn't?!!!

vooks:
How do you know there was no adultery?

paxonel:
Exactly!
That's my premise.
And you know the premise is very possible

Candour:


My friend Gombs.....desperately applying the dumb stance to avoid being a little bit honest huh?

Paxonel's question is How do you know pastor Anita wasn't abused?

Were you living with them as an adopted son? Or maiguard?

paxonel:
I was asking
how are you sure pastor Anita was not abused in any form by pastor Chris?
you know Nigeria men are fun of abusing their wives in secret at home.
it is a normal characteristics of Nigerian men

craziebone:
Believer's Love World Inc is not a pentecostal church?

What it is, then?

What's a pentecostal church?

Your decision not to join the PFN stems from 1. The betrayal from CAN and the. And 2. The law of the land that allows you to associate freely with anyone and not to associate with anyone at all.

paxonel:
you are not answering my question?