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Walking In His Perfect Will - Tuesday, April 26th .

Pastor Chris

...that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God (Romans 12:2).

There's the good will, the acceptable will, and the perfect will of God. Always, what the Lord desires is for us to walk in His perfect will. The perfect will is God's design for you. That's God's definite will for your life.

A clear evidence of spiritual maturity is the ability to discern and walk in God's perfect will for your life. And this isn't something that's difficult; God's Word expresses His perfect thoughts and opinions, so you can trust the Word. Psalm 119:105 describes the Word as a lamp unto your feet, and a light unto your path. The Word gives you direction and guidance. So, you need to know God's Word to understand and walk in His perfect will for you.

Praying fervently and consistently in tongues is equally very important in recognizing and walking in God's perfect will. Praying in tongues, amongst its other benefits, conditions your spirit to be attuned and sensitive to the Holy Spirit, making it easier for you to receive direction and guidance in your spirit.

There're people who are into certain jobs and businesses because it's good, yet that's not God's perfect will for them. When you function in His good or acceptable will, you may or may not fulfill your destiny; you may or may not achieve God's purpose for your life. Living in the perfect will of God is living in God's best, because you're in His exact plans and purpose for you at a particular time.

In your life, before you take any major steps or decisions, be sure to find out God's perfect will by spending time in fellowship with the Holy Spirit, and meditation on the Word. Don't settle for the good or acceptable will; walk in His perfect will. It's the safest place to be.

Prayer...
I delight in you, O Lord! You make my paths straight and plain. Your Word is within my heart, and I walk circumspectly, in your perfect will at every stage of my life, in Jesus' Name. Amen.

Further Study:

Hebrews 10:7
Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

1 John 2:17
And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

Colossians 1:9-10
For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; 10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;

Daily Scripture Reading:

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Luke 22:1-38, 1 Samuel 26-28

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Romans 16:1-11, Psalm 133-134

Take The Step Of Faith - Monday, April 25th .

Pastor Chris

But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him (Hebrews 11:6).
Every child of God has faith. The Bible says God has given to every man the measure of faith (Romans 12:3).

However, a lot of time, some aren't bold to act their faith. For example, during a Church meeting, there could be someone who has a word of prophecy, but instead of going ahead to proclaim it, he's nervous and unable to summon enough boldness to do so.

The person could be thinking, "I've never prophesied before; how can I just stand up in this crowd and start prophesying?" With such thoughts going through his mind, his faith dissipates, and the opportunity passes by, without him fulfilling God's plan for the hour. Whereas, the one who's filled with the Spirit doesn't even wait to get the full message before he stands up to give the Word. Once he hears a sentence from the Spirit, he steps out in faith to give it. And as he begins, the Spirit leads him on and on until he gives the full message.

To walk in the Spirit is to walk by faith; and faith is active, not passive. It's the response of the human spirit to the Word of God. So, always be bold to act your faith. When God's Word comes to you, act on it. Take a step of faith. Imagine what the Lord said to Abraham, "...Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee" (Genesis 12:1).

The Bible tells us that Abraham, without knowing where he was going, obeyed. He took a step of faith.
Noah did the same thing; he took a step of faith on the basis of the words He received from God: "By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house..." (Hebrews 11:7). Take a step of faith today, by boldly acting on the Word.

Confession...
I'm bold and very courageous! I take giant strides today on the basis of the Word! By my faith in the Word, I see the invisible and do the impossible, for the Word in me is a propelling force! I'm triumphant in my going out and in my coming in, by the ability of God's Spirit at work in me! Hallelujah!

Further Study:

Hebrews 11:6-13
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. 7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. 8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. 11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. 12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable. 13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

Acts 4:13
Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Luke 21:5-38, 1 Samuel 23-25

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Romans 15:20-33, Psalm 131-132

[quote author=Goshen360 post=45001714]

I'm responding according to your paragraphs.

1 - I only mentioned burnt offering as one of the whole offerings that are being offered and meant in Malachi. When God said in Malachi TITHES AND OFFERINGS, He wasn't just telling them something new but what they already knew but they're doing ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE AND LAW. So, understanding what God was saying when he said in Malachi ....In tithes and offerings. ..you have to go back to the law where it was commanded......[s]HOWEVER, REMEMBER, CHRISTIANS ARE NOT REQUIRED BY THE NEW COVENANT TO GO BACK TO THE LAW BECAUSE WE HAVE A BETTER COVENANT IN CHRIST. [/s]

Hold it... Ephesians 6:1-2, is that not the law of Moses?

[size=2pt]This is what Joagbaje has been trying to teach some folks on here.
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2 - I agree with the truth in your 2nd paragraph above and that's what I was referring to that they are no longer required because of the idea they carry....it wasn't meant to mean or interpret as donation in the new testament church.

Great!

3. Giving is giving NOT offerings.

Proof!

remember, I already listed types of offerings abolished, and showed that Paul taugh about some givings/offerings that were not as those in the book of Leviticus.

Biblical offering as something different. The tithe teachers or those who twisted the tithe also tried twisting the meaning of offering.

stay focused now!
my question is, Is GIFTS different from GIVINGS which is also different from OFFERINGS?? The greek worrds here are dosis, domah and Prosphora. ALL these greek word has one thing in common... the word Gift.

So, was Paul's techings on Collections as you call it and not gifts as in gifts, giving and offerings?

Contributions can come in form of giving but not offerings .

HAHHHHAHAHHHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH... Did you read what you just wrote?

Dear Lord Jesus!

Anyways, giving and offerings as i showed you in the NT has a common word.. GIFTs. So, conversely, you're saying

Contributions can come in form of giving but not gifts.

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There's a purpose for offering and there's purpose for contribution or giving.

There's a purpose for offering gifts and there's purpose for contribution or giving gifts.

doesn't make sense to me meeeehn!

there is another word "Collection", it appeared once in the NT, and the greek is Logia, which means money gathered for the relief of the poor, you'd see that in 1 Corinthians 16:1, which brings me to the latter part of my question, for we know what you term contribution or collection was not gathered for the relief of the poor... except the Pastor said it is initially.

If you think contributions are offerings as used by some translations, then you and those translations can argue with HEBREWS 10:5 - 8.

4 - Gifts, collections and offerings as used in the new testament. ...we have to follow the context.

Hilarious

Plus,

2 Corinthian 11:8 doesn't mean Paul, the Apostle put gun in the head of people to collect stuff from them.

stay focused now!

It's best understood to mean I collected from them to give to those in need among the church of God, not for my personal purpose.....my paraphrase

hahahahahahahah...Go read that place again. Other Christians (probably Macedonia) gave monies to Paul, so that he can work among the Corinthians, they provided his needs (Pocket money, shaving money, okada money, Amala ati ewedu dinner, Tax money, etc).... and it was for his personal purpose.. go read verse 9

You have to go to where Paul collected the so called "offerings" and reconcile it with where he delivered it.

What was it is when he collected it and what was it when delivered?

let me help you call backup... hello Eastbay, wanna attempt this?

Why did Paul Collect and Delivered an Offering for the Jerusalem Church?
What compelled Paul to raise funds among his gentile converts for the poor in Jerusalem?

Note: Paul wrote, that his offering up of the gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost... The word offer there means, gift, ....a present!

so, then i ask, If tihes are done away with, what about offerings?

Be Faithful With The Anointing - Sunday, April 24th .

Pastor Chris

But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you...(1 John 2:27).
As a child of God, there's an anointing on your life; it's a divine enablement. Many mistake the anointing for the Spirit, but the anointing isn't the Spirit. The Spirit gives the anointing: the anointing is a divine power.

It's that power of God that heals, delivers, removes burdens, and causes you to prosper. It brings you victory. It opens doors for you. It uplifts you, and causes you to fulfil the will of the Father. It accomplishes works beyond your human ability.
Another beautiful thing is that the anointing on your life can increase. Sometimes, people want to do more; they want to make more impact with the Gospel by reaching more people. Yes; that's possible and commendable, but you need increased grace.

God will have to increase the authority given to you; but first, you must be faithful with what you already have. If you're faithful in using what you currently have, then He'll cause a new anointing to come on you.

If you're a leader in the house of God, for instance, and the Lord has committed fifty members to you to lead, be committed in praying and interceding for those fifty as you would for fifty thousand. If you're not faithful with the fifty, even if you fast and pray for increase in membership, it may never happen, because the anointing can't be increased without faithfulness.

Jesus said in Luke 16:10, "He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much." It's a spiritual principle. Choose to be faithful with whatever the Lord has committed to your hands. Don't despise little beginnings, because your faithfulness with, and to that which may seem "little" today is what will take you to the next level.

Prayer...
Dear Lord, I thank you for your anointing upon my life, and for the privilege of being a minister of reconciliation. My spiritual fervour is at its peak, because I'm full of the Spirit. I'm faithful and effective in the ministry and assignment committed into my hands, in Jesus' Name. Amen.

Further Study:

1 Corinthians 4:1-2
Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God. 2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful.

Luke 16:10
He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.

1 Peter 4:10
As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Luke 20:20-21:1-4,1 Samuel 20-22

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Romans 15:10-19, Psalm 129-130

Candour:
You're free to give to joagbaje if you so wish. The question is whom did Jacob give the tithe he vowed to?

He said he'd give it to God... Now, y'all folks saying pastors are tithe collectors are the ones who should hide in shame... The man gave his tithes as vowed... My point is, he gave tithe TO God.

So its now Jacob you're following? No more Abraham's tithe? Of course you must enter a spin into the matter

Try as much as you can to turn tables, but any sane person would see that I used Jacob's tithe to refute your baseless claims that tithes before the law was spoils of war.

See Jacob giving God conditions HE MUST FULFILL for the tithe to be given


Genesis 28:20-22 KJV
And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on, [21] So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the Lord be my God: [22] And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.

Since its now Jacobs tithe you follow, do you also give God conditions he must meet? We know Melchizedek received from Abraham, who received it from Jacob?

Refer to the above know why I mentioned Jacob's tithing.

Of course Mosaic law was all about penalties. Sin offering, atonement offering, cleansing rites etc. Or you don't know?

What's new to me is that he imposed a fine to deter folks from tithing in cash

Exactly my point. Abraham gave tithes from spoils of war, NOTHING FROM HIS RICHES before he went to war. Jacob vowed to give from whatever he made from Laban's house. 2 very different things.

Once again, are you a war captive from whom spoils of war are taken to fulfill tithing ala Abraham?

You had no point. You baselessly said that tithing before the law was spoils of war... Should I quote you?

Punishment for not using the ATM. That should be clear.

??

Won't thieves who don't repent go to hell? So why won't non tithing christians (robbers of God according to oyaks) not go to hell? Are you scared of saying it?

I won't delve into your circle walking... I have told you and shown you God's pronouncement, however your deductions are is your problem.

Why not say it and free your conscience?

My conscience is clear... Your deductions are however your opinions.

The oyaks divorce is also a devourer... Or you don't think so?

Try to stay focused. Stay on topic.

Abraham gave tithes ONCE of spoils of war, Jacob vowed to give A tithe dependent upon God meeting a condition. How do these 2 instances resemble the obligation on you and others that you're trying to preach to me today?

My question was where was it written that God commanded them both to tithe? If it wasn't a revelation, as Abel's firstfruits offering, what else could it have been, seeing that God later instituted tithing?

Be bold enough to say it na. Will robber go to hell? Will a non tithing Christian go to hell?

Redundancy

Does Malachi 3:8-11 apply to a Christian? Was that scripture on non tithers as robbers written to Christians?

Here we go again!

Let me fetch you a link about this malachi thing?

Did Aaron pay tithes? Was he not also in Abraham's loins when he paid?

This is common sense na... Wasn't Aaron a Levite? (Ex 4:14,that's another day's talk) Did levites pay tithes? What are you now saying?

They collected these tithes and paid in Abraham... Simple grammar!

Melchizedek received from Abraham. Bible didn't tell us if Jacob redeemed his vow and to whom.

So, he didn't and yet, God blessed him? Na wa ooooooooooooo... You mean the line of promise had a dishonesty link?

Moses commanded Israelites to give to Levite's while Levite's were commanded to give to Aaron to eat belleful.

You can see clearly defined givers and collectors. Who collects yours other than oyaks and some crumbs for Jo etc?

Stay focused.

Try and read your bible. Israelites pay to levites so levites can chop.

However it may, how many times do I have to tell you my tithing predates the law?

Numbers 18:24 KJV
But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the Lord , I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance.

Levites pay a tithe of the tithes they received to Aaron so he too can chop.

Numbers 18:26-28 KJV
Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the Lord , even a tenth part of the tithe. [27] And this your heave offering shall be reckoned unto you, as though it were the corn of the threshingfloor, and as the fulness of the winepress. [28] Thus ye also shall offer an heave offering unto the Lord of all your tithes, which ye receive of the children of Israel; and ye shall give thereof the Lord's heave offering to Aaron the priest.

Isreal knew whom they gave theirs to. Levites knew whom they gave theirs to. Aaron knew his own job was to eat the tithes. Whom do you give yours to? Oyaks?

Redundancy.

Who eats your tithes? Oyaks?

Redundancy


I can see you've got nothing else to say aside wallow in same back and forth.

Twas nice explain more to the world about tithe with you around. Thanks buddy!

Goshen360

this is for you...


Tithes and offerings are widely discussed and God spoke of them in Malachi. If tithes are done away with, what about offerings? You did say in the other thread that God referred to burnt offerings, but I beg to differ.

There are many instructions for sacrifice throughout the Pentateuch, but Leviticus chapters 1-7 is completely dedicated to the 5 Levitical offerings which were the main sacrifices used in the rituals. They describe 5 kinds of sacrifices: The burnt offering, the meal offering, the peace offering, the sin offering, and the trespass offering. Each of the sacrifices were uniquely fulfilled in Jesus Christ.

But Paul talked about some kind of givings (some translations used offerings), he also taught on the conditions for giving, and the benefits...My question is, is giving not same as offerings? Is collections (as you lot call it) the giving Paul was talking about? What of that of Peter and Ananias? Was it collections too?

finally, what is the difference between gifts, collections and offerings, as used in the new testament. Thanks.

put these in mind

2 Corinthian 11:8
New International Version
I robbed other churches by receiving support from them so as to serve you.

Note this question too
Why did Paul Collect and Delivered an Offering for the Jerusalem Church?
What compelled Paul to raise funds among his gentile converts for the poor in Jerusalem?

thanks

Candour:
It'll of course be difficult for you to answer.

I can Understand, I really do.

Genesis 28:22 KJV
And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.

That's the tithe Jacob vowed to give. Who collected it?are you about to scream Melchizedek?

Why do you all have a problem then, when i say "I give my tithes to God?"

Hebrews 7:4 KJV
Now consider how great this man was , unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

The tithe mentioned before the law was of spoils of war. Are you also giving tithe of spoils of war?

Did Jacob give spoils of war? Which war?

Hint: Go to Genesis 28:22 KJV and see what he tithed of.

Pa pa pa pa......myself. Are u OK now?

Moses and fines... that's a new one buddy!

Hebrews 7:4 KJV
Now consider how great this man was , unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

[s]The tithe paid before the law was from spoils of war.[/s]

Are your church members war captives from which spoils are taken? Are you a war captive?

Was Jacob a Sumarai, a Marine, Commando, of Sparta-like warrior?

Have you heard of cash handling charges? My bank charges me 100naira if I refuse to use my ATM at the bank. That's exactly a punishment for still doing my cash transactions across the counter.

Punishment or choice? Is it their money?

Hallelujah

Glory!!

What do you think?

Heretic?

??

v 33

So do you also believe a non tither is a robber and must go to hell?

God is faithful, merciful and kind. He is gracious. He didn't talk about hell when He said folks rob Him, He however spoke of a curse they bring on themselves. If you like, tithe, if you don't like, leave others who do. Tithing, like anything in God's kingdom is a choice.

Jo called it a revelation and principle.

Yup! I asked someone on here to show me where God commanded Abraham and Jacob to tithe... mind obliging me?

Will I also go to hell for not catching this tithe principle?

Scroll bit up for an answer

If its by revelation, how does it become obligatory for you and I that it becomes MUST PAY according to oyaks?

Like I said, it is a choice, if you like, tithe, if you don't... don't. I have NEVER SEEN OR HEARD Pastor Chris force anyone to tithe... NEVER.

If Jacob already paid according to the below

Hebrews 7:9-10 KJV
And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham. [10] For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.

What about this below? Does it mean it was rendered redundant?

Did Levi Pay tithe in Abraham? If yes... Why do you have a problem when heirs according to the promise pay tithes?

Genesis 28:22 KJV
And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.

Is that why the bible is silent on who received it?

Lol... You all had the assumption that pastors are tithe collectors, I asked who collected Jacob's since Jacob said he will give it to God. The onus is on y'all who call pastors tithe collectors to show who received Jacob's, and tell us who taught the man the principle of tithes.

Does that mean Joseph, Simeon etc didn't also need to pay since they already paid in Abraham's loins? Or didn't it cover them also?

Be reasonable na, were these folks levites who received tithes?

The levites received these tithes, and the bible reckons that the levites paid these tithe in Abraham, when Abraham met Melchizedek, who share same priesthood as Jesus, FOREVER.

Please don't.

I can't

No Failure Or Defeat -Saturday, April 23rd .

Pastor Chris

According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue (2 Peter 1:3).

The life that we've been called to live in Christ is the transcendent life. It's far removed from failure and defeat, because we're associates of the God-kind. We're joint heirs with Christ. Why then should any Christian suffer defeat and pain, when he's a joint-heir with Christ?

God had a plan, to make you one with Christ. That plan has already materialised. 1 Corinthians 6:17 says, "But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit." Now that you're born again, you're one with the Lord. You've come into union with Christ. You're not one who's struggling to attain God's level; you're already one with Him.

Therefore, sickness, disease and infirmity shouldn't have a place in your body. Failure of any kind isn't, and shouldn't be, a part of your life. Satan isn't a factor either, because you're seated with Christ in heavenly places, far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that's named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come. You're superior to Satan and his cohorts.

Moreover, Ephesians 1:3 says, "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ." You might say, "But He only blessed us with all spiritual blessings"; no, understand that the spiritual controls the physical. The lesser is included in the greater. So, if you're blessed with all spiritual blessings, then you have automatically been blessed with all physical blessings. This means that there's nothing you don't have.

No wonder Paul said, "...all things are yours" (1 Corinthians 3:21). Everything you require for the life of absolute success, victory, dominion, glory and righteousness has already been granted you in Christ. That's what we read in our opening verse. So, as a Christian, poverty is unnecessary, because you're the seed of Abraham. The reason many suffer is their lack of knowledge: "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge..." (Hosea 4:6).
Get to know who you are. You were called to a life of glory and excellence, not failure and defeat. Live every day with this consciousness.

Confession...
I've obtained an inheritance, which is imperishable and undefiled! I've been blessed with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ. I'm a success forever. The world is mine! My life is the testimony, and revelation of God's grace, wisdom, perfection, and righteousness. Blessed be God!

Further Study:
Romans 8:16-17
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

3 John 1:2
Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

Psalm 115:15-16
Ye are blessed of the Lord which made heaven and earth. 16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

Daily Scripture Reading
1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Luke 20:1-19, 1 Samuel 18-19
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Romans 15:1-9, Psalm 127-128

SirJohn:
Hey Guys longest time! been away from the religion section, in fact, I've only been showing up as a guest on NL
Lots of important things to do jooor; been having a blast with fatherhood jare

Candour four mentions from your post on the 500k pledge. . . Errmmm!! NO COMMENTS

Gombs, Joagbaje, Goshen360, et al I hail o


peace!

Sir, I hail jare... you just wake leave area!

Mbaemeka, Bidam, Idnoble, etc. I almost thought you deactivated too. Great to have you back jare.

Goshen360:
Bros, bring it on....lol..... . You say I no get your time, na make pepper rest joor.

Abeg, help bro Candour na?

Candour:
Did they farm would be a more appropriate question. My mum in law is a hematologist yet runs poultry and livestock farming. What would you call her?

Never knew that could be a difficult question to answer.. Issorai.

Bible didn't say. [s]do you know? In fact how did he fulfill the vow?[/s]

Thanks.
So, because the bible didn't say, shall we then assume their was a physical tithe collector?

No wahala

Thanks

So under whose law are you paying tithe? Jacob's?

My tithing pre dates the law!Do we need go over that again?

Just like its your choice to avoid using seatbelt on the highway and get a fine from FRSC. It doesn't make it a proper habit.

So, Moses fined them folks who gave money in lieu for the crops or livestock?

Klap for yasef

No argument here.

Great!

Choice that came with a 20% penalty. Do the farmers in your church pay this penalty?

Looooooooool! Tithing in my church predates the law, How many times do i have to tell you?

If it wasn't, it won't be a penalty.

see logic na! .

Just like saying, "we accept cash here, but if you bring your ATM card to use on our POS, we'd deduct 5% VAT also". Question now is,

How is the ATM card VAT a deterrent for those who doesn't have cash?

That should go without saying I guess. But praise God you know.

Praise God you agreed.

From the bible we see

Candour International Version (CIV), yeah?

Leviticus 27:30-31 KJV
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's : it is holy unto the Lord . [31] And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof.

Is the above in your bible.

Redundancy. Go to verse 33

Your daddy, oyaks preaches mosaic tithe hence his saying YOU PAY IT.

a new dimension now! Out of steam, no?

well the term "PAY IT" was from the bible, scroll a bit down, you'd see the verse.

Tell us who collected it.

The fact you don't know proves that the norm "tithe collector" is a fantasy of anti tithers.

ruminate on this
Heb 7 NIV
9 One might even say that Levi, who collects the tenth, paid the tenth through Abraham, 10 because when Melchizedek met Abraham, Levi was still in the body of his ancestor.


a little hint: Where was Jacob when Abraham met Melchizedek?
This should give you a clue, if it doesn't...then, I'm sorry.

You can even call it "Omo Onile fees" or "marching ground" or "bush entry" after all you worship a god that would send devourer your way if you refuse to surrender your 10%

hehehehehehehehehhihihiihihihhhhahahahahhahahahahahahhahhahahah

After all the time you wasted opening up "Midas touch by Kenneth Hagin for us and seeing what the man wrote about the so-called first fruits, you're still peddling the fraud??

I refuse to derail!

Candour:
I wonder why you're tripping over this issue. Are you insinuating Jesus Christ paid tithe?

Is there any law that forbade the Pharisees from having farms? See the scripture again and note the bolded

Matthew 23:23 KJV
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Do you know the 3 items Christ told them they tithe are garden vegetables?

Were they farmers? A 'yes' or 'no' would be just fine.

All these tory because I told you Jesus didn't collect tithes?

I'm also a priest if you're not. Pls come pay your tithe to me

Stay focused... Who was the tithe collector for Jacob?

To those who forget the church actually has factual history well documented.

That's another day's topic

So after reading this part, its still difficult for you to realise TITHE WAS PURELY AGRICULTURAL?

Under Moses law, yes! You must have missed it in my post.

Does this scripture not tell you that tithe was only in kind?

Is that not enough to tell you that even monetizing tithe attracted a penalty?

NO sir! It was purely choice.

Monetary redemption was not allowed for the tithe of animals. Moses declared in verse 33, that "It shall not be redeemed". This means that the tithing law of Moses prohibited cattle ranchers from paying money at all. They were required to give the tenth animal no matter if they wanted to keep it for some reason to themselves.

It was a choice oooooooooooooo! Not a penalty. The choice was however limited to tithes of animals.

Why will there be a penalty if not to serve as a deterrent?

It is not a deterrent oooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[s]Or does it mean all you that are paying cash are actually adding 20% as penalty?[/s]

Inconsequential

No my friend. Moses tithe was strictly agric produce.

Including animals...

To show how serious God took the matter, a penalty of extra 20% awaited anyone intending to monetize it as the scripture you quoted also told u.

https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/scbu.gif

...and that was how a theory was born!

No money as tithe.....only agric produce. Crops and the tenth animals that passed under a rod.

Money, as i Just proved was a choice limited to tithe of animals.

Well, no need debating Moses' law of tithing, i just wanted to sufficiently show that;

1. the norm "tithe collector" is an absurd word, because y'all can't answer who collected/received Jacob's tithe.

2. Monies were accepted as tithes under Moses, but with an extra charge, and limited to animal tithing( I call it VAT )

3. Tithing like first fruits were acts of faith by Abraham and Abel respectively, acts that was commended by God.

Peace!

Goshen360:
How about you be my guest. ... . How far brother, you staying in the Great Grace of God?

You sure?

Candour:
One of the most involving threads back in the days.

Its a library of some of the best discussions on the subject of tithes.

I have no hesitation to recommend it to any seeker.

exactly bro!

openmine:
Thanks for the invitation Sir,
Hmmm quite interesting....Though i wont lie to you...am slightly a busy guy....but once am less busy,i will pay the thread a visit....

be my guest

Candour:


My friend Gombs, what is so difficult about mentioning my moniker? You can't be scared to invite me your friend to party na?

I no wan just mention names... I wanted him to go there himself

Now you're tripping over the fact the Jesus never paid tithes because he was not a farmer!

So, Jesus as a jew never paid tithe because he was not a farmer shey? Ok, when Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees, were they farmers?

How about Jesus received gifts or offerings but NEVER collected tithes because he was not a LEVITE or is that confusing to you too?

Stop these fantasy of "collecting tithes". Joagbaje has said it for the umpteenth time, Pastor's are not tithe collectors. Pastor's pay their tithes in faith, as papa Abraham did to that man who shares the same priesthood as Jesus...and since Abraham is the father of our faith, I think it is self explanatory, because it would be foolish for you to ask me who was the tithe collector, since God didn't command Abraham to give tithes, and still went on to tell Moses to institute tithing. Who was the tithe collector for Jacob?

Or None of the apostles collected tithes because they were not levites

refer to the above

Or the fact that the church NEVER collected tithes until 585AD after the council at Tours decided to go back to mosaic law for sustenance because of the collapse of the Roman empire that had sustained the church after Christianity became official religion? And even then it was strictly agricultural produce like Mosaic law prescribed?

fable history...


err, Moses' law was't strictly agricultural produce, and still ..it wasn't just crops...monies were involved.

There were only two types of income that were tithable: One was from agricultural production.

"All the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord’s" (Leviticus 27:30).

This meant that a tenth of all agricultural produce of the land of Israel, whether fruits or vegetables, had to be tithed.

The second type of tithable income was the increase of animals. "All the tithe of the herd or flock, whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the Lord" (verse 32). Only these two specific income producers were subject to the tithe IN THE LAW OF MOSES.

[size=3pt]Thank God I tithe by the faith of faithful Abraham to a priesthood who lives for ever. [/size]

There was, however, one exception to this rule. Leviticus 27:31 reads: "If a man will redeem ought of his tithe, he shall add unto it the fifth part thereof." In other words, if a man for various reasons did not wish to pay his tithe in kind (and he wished to give money as a substitute), he was penalized a fifth part.

Y'all should drop the tithe collector brouhaha, and that monies were never involved, but just crops.

Are you still confused by these assertions my dear friend Gombs?

I should be asking you same, my dear friend.

There are too groups of folks insisting tithing is Christian doctrine. They are

1.The sincerely wrong

2.The criminally inclined.

There are too groups of folks insisting tithing is not a Christian doctrine. They are

1.The sincerely wrong

2.The frugally inclined.

You my friend are in the first group.

Pheeew. What a thread!

Openmine, you seemed new to this arena, and I say welcome! Certain gladiators here, over the years, have been mute for several reasons, but this thread, is a replica of another that has being long dealt with, devoid of the shameless personal attacks of folks who cannot stay on topic, but show their neonate nature in biblical discussions. I welcome you to this thread, and offer you a new thread for a square discussion, of course making plainer the things joagbaje has been saying since the thread below and many more before it.

In this thread, you will be amazed at the reasoning of some folks; Highlights include

1. Tithes and offerings, Tithe is done with, so is offerings, what we take today in church is called COLLECTIONS. Let me quote one of many

What is this? What we give in worship gathering is 'contribution' NOT offerings. We don't give 'offerings' in worship gathering UNDER THE NT, such was by the law.


Someone then showed where Jesus called these givings as gifts, here was one of the replies

when Jesus made dat statement there was no christianity, only judaism, it was still OT, Christ died gave d perfect offering(his blood) and brought in NT n christianity, in christianity, we are enjoined to offer our bodies as living sacrifice n d fruit of our lips. I told u , d money we give in church are contributions, whats so dif to udastand?

2. The myriad of insults from the anti-titters

3. This epic post by one of the folks who posted few minutes ago, he said
Jesus NEVER paid tithes because he wasn't a farmer,

the same folks said Jesus was under the law, and functioned under the Mosaic laws before His death, but we now see an exception, He didn't pay tithe because He was not a farmer.

Just go there, it's 31 pages, but worth the read. Forget the shifting of goal post folks are trying to do here from the topic at hand to personal jabs.

https://www.nairaland.com/1456343/tithes-offerings-eternal-principles#18401359

I await your response.

Openmine, This thread has being instrumental for years... a bit long, but profitable.

The Answer Is In You - Friday, April 22

Pastor Chris

For we are God’s [own] handiwork (His workmanship), recreated in Christ Jesus, [born anew] that we may do those good works which God predestined (planned beforehand) for us [taking paths which He prepared ahead of time], that we should walk in them [living the good life which He prearranged and made ready for us to live] (Ephesians 2:10 AMP).

As a Christian, there's no challenge or problem strong enough to destroy you, because the greater One lives in you. You're more than a conqueror. Before you were born, God already knew every problem you'd ever face, and made you a victor. The reason God allows problems or challenges come to you is that He already put the solution inside you. Problems gravitate towards their solution. So, when you face challenges, don't cover or fret; rather, rejoice, for it's your opportunity to manifest the glory of God.

1 Corinthians 10:13 says, "...but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able...." God doesn't mind that you're facing a challenge in your life, because He knows that by acting on the Word, you can change the situation and turn it into a testimony that'll glorify His Name.

It doesn't matter what you may be going through, just know that you have the answer in you. That's why He says, "...count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations" (James 1:2).

Romans 8:28 says, "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." God has prepared a glorious life for you; a life of advantage, victory, dominion and joy; He didn't prepare your life for defeat or failure! You're His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for glory and excellence. Live the good life that He prearranged for you.

Prayer...
Dear Lord, I'm grateful that you made me a peculiar treasure unto you, and called me to a life of glory, excellence, and dominion. Thank you for setting me on the path of life: the path of righteousness and of glory, in Christ Jesus! I walk in divine wisdom, today and always, in Jesus' Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Colossians 3:15-16
And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

1 John 4:4
Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. ||

Romans 8:35-38
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or unclothedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Daily Scripture Reading
1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Luke 19:28-48, 1 Samuel 16-17
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Romans 14:12-23, Psalm 125-126

Sambisa Forest.
Area: 60,000 square kilometres (23,000 sq mi)
Enugu state of Nigeria is 7,161 square kilometers (2,765 sq mi).

Nigeria's problem:
Nigeria needs grazing field/land for cattle owned by Nigerian leaders. Our hard working minister of agriculture is importing grasses from Brazil and will need where to plant the grasses and feed our all important cattle.
We have also flushed out Boko Haram terrorists from Sambisa forest so there is no threat again. Or haven't we?
......................................
Is there any reason known to man why we shouldn't convert Sambisa forest to a national grazing field and gather all the herdsmen in Nigeria to that place, disarm them and allow them to use the facility and transport their ready for sale cows by rail or trailers to wherever needed?
Why should we make laws to compel places like Enugu State Government to provide land for grazing when we abundant land at Sambisa?
Convince me that those seeking to appropriate other people's land for grazing, whereas they have more land, do not have other sinister motives.

Please no long grammar, just convince me and I will be. Just wan make common sense.


-Unknown!

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith (Galatians 5:22).

You might want to ask, "If someone who's born again realizes that he has hatred, anger, bitterness, jealousy, envy, pride, etc., in his heart, how should he get ride of them? Should he pray to God to take them away?" First, you need to know who a Christian is; he's someone whose spirit has been recreated by God; and the recreated human spirit has certain distinct features, such as love, joy, peace, patience, gentleness, goodness, and faith.

Hatred, anger, bitterness, jealousy, envy and pride aren't features of the recreated human spirit; so, refuse to harbour them. Look into your spirit and bring forth love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith. You have these beautiful features in your spirit. You may call them the "produce" of your human spirit, because you're a tree of righteousness.

The Bible says the love of God is shed abroad in your heart by the Holy Spirit (Romans 5:5); this means there's no room in your heart for hatred, bitterness, jealousy, and all such negativities. Those are the works of the flesh. And God didn't tell us to pray about them. What He tells us is to put them off! If that weren't possible for you to do, He wouldn't have said so.

What you should do when there seems to be a manifestation of the works of the flesh in your life is to use your mouth! Declare that there's love in your heart. That's what you start with. You might ask, "Must I say it?" Yes, you must say it, and continue to say it, because your mouth is the rudder that controls your life. Every now and then, affirm, "Jesus Christ is Lord of my life, and I walk in love!" The more you say it, the greater the manifestation and expression of the love of Christ in your life.

You're born with the nature of God in your heart; you have the life of God in you. Be more conscious of the features of your spirit, and let your words and actions be consistent with your true nature.

https://www.nairaland.com/393253/rhapsody-realities-daily-devotional/49#44895935

Understanding Your True Nature - Thursday, April 21st .

Pastor Chris

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith (Galatians 5:22).

You might want to ask, "If someone who's born again realizes that he has hatred, anger, bitterness, jealousy, envy, pride, etc., in his heart, how should he get ride of them? Should he pray to God to take them away?" First, you need to know who a Christian is; he's someone whose spirit has been recreated by God; and the recreated human spirit has certain distinct features, such as love, joy, peace, patience, gentleness, goodness, and faith.

Hatred, anger, bitterness, jealousy, envy and pride aren't features of the recreated human spirit; so, refuse to harbour them. Look into your spirit and bring forth love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith. You have these beautiful features in your spirit. You may call them the "produce" of your human spirit, because you're a tree of righteousness.

The Bible says the love of God is shed abroad in your heart by the Holy Spirit (Romans 5:5); this means there's no room in your heart for hatred, bitterness, jealousy, and all such negativities. Those are the works of the flesh. And God didn't tell us to pray about them. What He tells us is to put them off! If that weren't possible for you to do, He wouldn't have said so.

What you should do when there seems to be a manifestation of the works of the flesh in your life is to use your mouth! Declare that there's love in your heart. That's what you start with. You might ask, "Must I say it?" Yes, you must say it, and continue to say it, because your mouth is the rudder that controls your life. Every now and then, affirm, "Jesus Christ is Lord of my life, and I walk in love!" The more you say it, the greater the manifestation and expression of the love of Christ in your life.

You're born with the nature of God in your heart; you have the life of God in you. Be more conscious of the features of your spirit, and let your words and actions be consistent with your true nature.

Confession...
I walk in the Spirit, and therefore don't fulfil the lust of the flesh! The love of God is shed abroad in my heart by the Holy Ghost! And I've put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of Him that created him. I express the virtues and perfections of divinity to my world. Hallelujah!

Further Study:
1 Peter 2:1-2
laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings, 2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby: ||

1 Peter 2:12 MSG
Live an exemplary life among the natives so that your actions will refute their prejudices. Then they'll be won over to God's side and be there to join in the celebration when he arrives. ||

Daily Scripture Reading
1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Luke 19:1-27, 1 Samuel 14-15
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Romans 14:1-11, Psalm 123-124

Candour:
Wetin dey make you laugh?

My friend Gombs, how u dey?

I dey fine o... na the tithe matter dey make me laugh

OLAADEGBU:
The scripture you quoted above says 'if' and not 'when' a man sins. The difference is clear. What John is saying here refers to a specific sin.

don't let me school you on basic grammar

We use if to introduce a possible unreal situation or condition (John knew sin for the Christian was suppose to be an unreal situation). We use when to refer to the time of a future situation or condition that we are certain of:

nothing about specificity.

1 John 2:1 is not applicable to those living a sinful lifestyle, it is not a license for sinners to claim.

... do you read what you type at all?

The promises of God in these verses

it was not a promise, it is a FACT! John said WE HAVE not WE WILL HAVE

should keep the true child of God from a life of habitual sin.

True Child of God? Habitual sin?

1 John 3:9
New International Version
No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.

John said they don't deliberately sin, Which one is true child of God and Habitual sin in describing a Christian?

If you are still a fornicator you have not yet repented of your sin and therefore cannot claim this promise.

It was not a promise ooooooooooooooo!

Ola, please, can you explain this to me as you would to a 5 year old

2 Corinthians 5:19 New Living Translation
For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people's sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation.

thanks

OLAADEGBU:
What did God do to liars like Ananias and Sapphiras?

I once asked, here i think, I asked, did God really kill them? If yes, where was God's mercy in it? What was God trying to prove? Did Peter Pass judgement on them by the authority/annointing he has?

if no, let's discuss.

Again, my assumption has always been that God killed this couple due to their lying to the Holy Spirit. However, and this is a very important point, there is NOT one verse of Scripture that states that God killed them! Please, also note, that Peter didn't kill them either; he never placed any curse upon them!

What killed them then?

Don' t think yourself smart using this as an example of the Holy Spirit convicting Christians...

.

Candour:
They were serving in the Lord's vineyard.

Do you have a problem with that bro?

Earnestly Intercede For Your Country - Wednesday, April 20th .

Pastor Chris

I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty....(1 Timothy 2:1-4).

Our theme scripture is the Spirit's admonition through Paul to the Church on the importance of earnest intercession for all men, our countries of domicile, and the leaders therein. The result of such is an overwhelming experience of God's blessings of peace and prosperity. Isaiah 1:19 says, "If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land."

This is part of what you do in obedience—praying, contending for the hearts of men in your country, and around the world, that His righteousness will be established, and all forms of evil, turmoil, wickedness, and terror, be thwarted.

Today, the security and economic situations of the world are of great concern. But the Church holds the solution. The Church is the only restraining power against evil in the earth today (2 Thessalonians 2:7).

Some Christians don't pray for their country; instead they complain. Don't be that way! If you don't pray for your country, how would you enjoy the good of the land? Meanwhile, in every country, the Bible shows that there's a lot of good in the land. Psalm 33:5 says, "...the earth is full of the goodness of the LORD."

Rise to the challenge and take up the responsibility of prayer. Pray earnestly and fervidly for the nations and leaders of the countries where you live or work, and then the rest of the world. Declare that God's righteousness prevails, and His glory rests on, and influences, men's hearts as God's people boldly proclaim the Gospel.

Pray also for ministers, that they be granted more grace to preach the Gospel with boldness and power, that many more souls may be added to the Lord all around the world.

Until the rapture takes place, we, as God's people, hold the true reins of power in the nations, and have the authority to direct their course through prayer.

Prayer...
Dear heavenly Father, I pray that your peace, progress and prosperity will reign in the nations of the world, and that you'll grant the ministers of the Gospel the courage to preach and minister your Word boldly. I pray that the power and influence of their message will kindle your love in the hearts of men. Thank you for the tremendous and glorious transformation of many lives through the Gospel, in Jesus' Name. Amen.

Further Study:

Colossians 4:2
Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving;

Luke 18:1
And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;

Jeremiah 29:7
And seek the peace of the city whither I have caused you to be carried away captives, and pray unto the Lord for it: for in the peace thereof shall ye have peace.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Luke 18:15-43, 1 Samuel 11-13

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Romans 13:1-14, Psalm 120-122

Don't Assume You Know - Tuesday, April 19

Pastor Chris

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15).

As you grow in Christ, one important decision you must make is to continually increase your knowledge of the Word. Be passionate to know the Lord more through careful and diligent study of the Scriptures. Give more attention to the Word of God; digest it into your spirit; meditate on it. Never assume that you already know enough of the Word.

There are people who just believe they've known the Word enough; they've become so familiar with the Word, and think they know everything in the Scriptures. Such people only realize the paucity of the Word in their spirit in the hour of crisis; that's when they find themselves acting in fear and anxiety. That's proof that the Word was really not inside them. Colossians 3:16 says, Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly..., not scarcely.

Abide in knowledge. The more you study the Word, the more you discover who Christ is, His character and nature, and also, the more you discover who you are in Him. And as you study, He manifests Himself to you in increasing glory. Our opening verse says, Study to shew thyself approved unto God. In other words, study to be successful; study to be updated, and increase your knowledge.
The Bible says through knowledge shall the just be delivered (not only out of trouble), but into their inheritance (Proverbs 11:9).

Christ has brought us freedom from defeat and freedom from sin; He's given us the ability to decide the kind of life we want to live. He's brought us liberty; He said, And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free (John 8:32).

When you get to know the Word of God, you become free in the area of the truth that you know. So, continually fuel your appetite for the Word of God. Meditate on the Scriptures day and night, and you'll be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, fruitful, productive, and prospering exceedingly in all that you do.

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for giving me your Word, a material to build my life with, and usher myself into higher levels of glory, promotions, victories and success. As I meditate on the Word, your wisdom exudes from me, and your grace causes me to be fruitful and productive in all things, and function excellently, in Jesus Name. Amen.

Further Study:

2 Timothy 3:14-15
But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15And that from a child thou hast known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Proverbs 1:5
A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:

Hosea 6:3
Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Luke 17:20-18:1-14;1 Samuel 8-10

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Romans 12:9-21;Psalm 119:161-176

MuttleyLaff:
translations that have [size=18] ''income [/size] from your herb gardens'' or ''you tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs''

Note the enlarged.

Tithing the one commanded and made obligatory to the Isralotes was based on husbandry and nothing else

Comparing to the above bold with the previously enlarged, me thinks you're confused

It is only if you cultivate the land or breed animals that you give tithes on increase from cultivating the land or breeding animals.

Super confused.

Artisans, like Jesus was a carpenter or cabinetmaker, didnt qualify to give tithes on their skilled craft works which might be woodwork, wooden furniture, decorative arts, clothing, jewellery etcetera

Show proof! Bible proof. While thinking on that, what was Isaac and Jacob's professions?

Thanks.

No need seeing the rest through...

The Word Gives You Stability - Monday, April 18

Pastor Chris

Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord (1 Corinthians 15:58).

Too many people are tossed back and forth in life; they're as unstable as water. That's not God's desire for you. He wants you steadfast, stable, consistent, always abounding in the work of the Lord. He wants you firm and stable in your faith. And the Word of God is what brings that balance and stability into your life.

To become a stable person, you have to become stable in the Word. Some people are easily moved and dissuaded from the faith by what they see and hear; they run their lives on the basis of their emotions and experiences. Every little thing shakes their faith. Never find yourself in that class.
Believe with all your heart that the Scriptures will give you light, and direction, and that it holds the solution to every problem.

Therefore, irrespective of the troubles, adversities and challenges, remain steadfast. Be unshakable. Trust the Word. Put your faith in it; believe it; be firm with the message of the Gospel. Become so inundated with the Word until the Word alone is all you think, talk and live out.
Serving Christ isn't in vain. God isn't unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love (Hebrews 6:10). The Bible says, "Be ye also patient; STABLISH your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh" (James 5:8 ) .

This is one of the reasons we minister and bring the Word to you every day. It's so that your faith can increase, and be established upon the truth, until you become perfect, unshaken, and complete, such that no matter what happens, you're courageous, vibrant and fervent for the Lord.

Prayer...
Dear Father, your Word gives me strength and ministers courage to my spirit. I'm steadfast, vibrant and fervent in spirit, today and always, irrespective of the tests, trials, and persecutions that may come my way! My faith is strong and active, and prevails over circumstances, in Jesus' Name. Amen.

Further Study:

2 Timothy 3:16-17
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Isaiah 33:6
And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the Lord is his treasure.

Luke 6:47-49
Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: 48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. 49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Luke 17:1-19, 1 Samuel 3-7

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Romans 12:1-8, Psalm 119:145-160

Yield To The Leading Of The Spirit - Sunday, April 17

Pastor Chris

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God (Romans 8:14).
One reason some of God's children find themselves in unpalatable situations is that they don't submit to the leading of the Spirit. The Holy Spirit leads us through the Word.

Any counsel you receive that's contrary to what the Word says isn't from the Holy Spirit. Some people pray about something, then an idea comes to them, and they say, "Well, God is leading me to do such-and-such." If you were to ask them, "Why do you believe it's God that's leading you in that direction?" they'd say, "because I prayed about it."

The fact that you prayed about it isn't enough! What did the Lord say to you after you prayed? Did He tell you expressly to go ahead and do whatever it is you think He's leading you to do? Is the idea you got in sync with God's Word? Is it consistent with the scriptures? His Word is His will expressed. In yielding to the Spirit, to be led by Him, you yield to the Lordship, supremacy, and guidance of the Word.

This is why knowing the Word for yourself is absolutely indispensable. It's important to have accurate knowledge of the Word. The more submissive you are to the Lordship of the Word, the more easily the Spirit can lead you, and express Himself through you. His desire is to lead you from glory to glory.

Our theme verse says, "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the SONS OF GOD" (Romans 8:14). The underlined portion has to do with maturity; it refers to the matured sons of God ("huios": Greek)—those who have come to the place of maturity—they subject themselves to the leading of the Holy Spirit.

To fulfil God's destiny for your life, you must learn to follow the Spirit in the Word, by the Word, and through the Word. Never make a major decision in your life without consulting with Him. And don't be in a hurry when seeking His guidance; be patient until you hear His voice—His words—in your spirit, and never be in conflict with the Scriptures.

Confession...
I'm born of the Spirit, and I'm fully yielded to His leading, guidance and control; His truth and wisdom are the forces of my life, propelling me from glory to glory as I walk in the paths prearranged for me by God. I'm fulfilling His perfect will, and living out my destiny in Him, in Jesus' Name. Amen.

Further Study:
1 John 1:6-7
If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

John 16:13-15
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Isaiah 30:21
And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Luke 16,
1 Samuel 1-2

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Romans 11:25-36, Psalm 119:129-144