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These captured slaves of Yoruba that voluntarily disbarred their their Ogiso for killing a pregnant woman and drove out their neighbors out of sight now wish they can claim Lagos every week. Try to put your house in order first. You still bear Youruba names in your royal circle and children of Ogiso cannot wait to kick you back to IFE. They have a court order in place. They only reason people still answer is for the sake of the children not to be confused or mis-educated. |
These people call themselves local producers of milk but they want another ten years to forex, ba. You would think they would be jumping up to fill the void. No, they want personal enrichment in foreign cash so that they can import what? Raw materials for milk or increase cows, goats, farms and workers. Nigerian businesses only want access to forex instead of increasing production for export to bring in forex into the country. |
No I do not think university students worked on those farms, they also had contracted suppliers but the farms were complementary. As students though in high school, Tai Solari incorporated farming as classes at Mayflower. There is no reason whatsoever for local goods not to be cheaper but for GREED. Nigeria is the only place to make highest profit: more than any country in the world. Our local automobiles should be cheaper, so should other local goods. Pure water sellers claimed price went up because they also pay more. It is a vicious circle. As for oga that claimed he enjoyed foreign water since other countries import water too. They have high priced goods they sell to the world, what do you sell to the world? It is my business because your foreign taste is creating the greatest number of poor people in Nigeria. When we start our revolution, you will be marked as blood drinker. Kotinu. Blue3k:[s][/s] |
It was really surprising to see foreign portable water packages in Nigeria. But before we condemn Nigeria for that, I must explain. We are all familiar with champagne as people's drink at one point. It was even postulated that Nigerians drank more champagne than the makers. During any emergency, crates of water are loaded in from USA and European countries. Generally, it could have been cheaper if they brought in water purifiers and got water from the ocean, river and even from recycle water (I do not want to spoil your appetite). You have to remember that these foreign aids are budgeted for in their money. There are stipulations that their money must be used to patronize their local companies. So all the water brought in are sourced from Coca Cola, Pepsi etc. Indeed, one of the defense of the makers of sugar water was that it saved African children from diarrhea and other diseases for lack of pure drinkable water in the villages. Somehow some of these free foreign portable water got into the hands of those in the black markets and our wealthy rushed at it and create a demand for it. So do not blame the sugar water companies for satisfying demand of any drink including water. I burst out laughing when someone asked if Nigeria imports Milk. Really? To my embarrassment, I did not know that our milk are imported. When we were young, we got milk not only from cows but from goats. The Hausa had WARA (Cottage cheese) sold everywhere. There used to be dwarf goats in those days in the Eastern part of the country. It was popular and used for many thing, including milk I suspect or in retrospect. There used to be a time, the old universities had their own farms. I am not sure if those farms still exist or not but I know, we as student (specifically my cohorts in Nigerian universities) got carried away and started complaining about food. We lost eating privileges and the farms may have disappeared with it. Even as professionals in those days, the best place to get cheap decent food in nice prestigious cafeteria were in the universities. I saw one of the tickets going round on Whatsapp. It brought back fine memories But Tai Solari kept up the farms in his school. I hated that school for the farms then. I later realized how foolish that was. In short, you want imports eh? You will pay through your noses and you will get people telling us to hold on to importation of toothpicks until local industries can pick up! |
porka:Point well taken. Does it have to be Corruption alone or nothing? It has to be an exclusive factor otherwise Nigeria is no poor. Some people even say poverty only exist in some region not theirs. Nigerians shine your eyes well well and reclaim your leadership position for the sake of the world black race. |
We have over $40 billion coming into Nigeria, four times the size of oil receipts, which is not more than $11billion annually.All we hear about is oil income, yet Diaspora money is four times more. More important, it has direct benefit on the needy while oil money is shared at the top. The only problem is that as the hard earned Diaspora money comes in, looter neutralize it at the bureau du change, at banks and Central Bank by sending more out. Cursed people. There are some sensible people still remaining all over Nigeria. Thank God. London School of Economics expert will not let us breathe until Nigeria pafuka! China can easily devalue its currency, because 95 per cent of what they produce is going to be exported, same with Malaysia which produces animal feeds. Till date we are talking of integration, draft and framework. A case in point is the African Continental free trade agreement (AfCFTA), we are talking of draft of an effective integration model. The infrastructures, transport and electricity are not there. Even our petrol is refined abroad. Anytime the price of crude oil goes up, it puts the government in crisis because the refineries are not working. The integration is not there. America, Europe is now at the last level-currency level. Except if you want to grind the economy to a halt, you may then devalue. If not, lets improve our productive capacity we can then begin to have some exclusiveness. The 42 items have helped in ensuring stability in the system, it’s a good step. So we should continue on such policy trajectory that would enhance productivity in the system. Then we can say we want to devalue our currency. No country will allow its currency to be determined by demand and supply forces. America is strong today not because of weapons, but because of the power of the dollar. That is why other advanced countries want to bring down the power of the dollar, thus neutralising America’s power. |
wizzzmike:So what makes a big brother? I don't blame you. We have to respect ourselves before we gain respect. Do you know when Haiti gained Independence? |
There is nothing new in Ghana that has not been proposed in Nigeria. Some of you may remember the registrations against Gas Flaring. After that Obasanjo implemented Gas Firing Stations across Nigeria to power Electricity. Gas was not there or ready, many power stations were idled except the one in Kwara. You can propose anything. Implementation is the key. Kudos to Ghana, they are leaning from Big Brother's failures. Some engineers here can educate us about details. |
Nigerians, how hard is it to call Jonathan, Tinubu, Dansuki, "GunDollar" or any looter pen robbers a looter without thinking or defending them based on their ethnicity? |
At the end of the, humans are still humans. Even during the war, we saw human kindness at the risk of their lives on all sides. Greed is our problem. |
Other African countries will tell you each time Fulani misbehave, they discipline them. They are lazy. Dogon in Mali were fewer than them but they still kicked their butts. What Fulani are good at is Divide and Conquer. This is how they (Dan Fodio) captured Hausa Dynasties. Religion is their powerful weapon though and they use it wisely. In the Middle Belt, Danjuma champion their cause. In the West Obasanjo did. In the East Azikiwe did until Nzeogwu broke their back. Fulani will always look for partners within you. If they cannot find any, they take to their heels and come back later. |
AZeD1:I knew you were going to say that. Check my reply again poor people work from dusk to dawn making meager profit. You can even say that is what you meanSome people even say Nigerians work harder on unproductive endeavors like crime and how to beat the system. If they apply the same energy on legitimate pursuits, they could make more money. So productive depend on the evaluation of your boss. You may consider yourself productive but your boss might think otherwise. |
With all respect sir, Africans are the most productive people on earth, no matter where we are. You should wonder how we still survived. Starting from Nigeria, most of the poor people work from dusk to dawn making meager profit. You can even say that is what you mean. The rich and the fortunate ones go outside Nigeria to open factories in the middle of the jungle with zero enabling environment and still make a profit but not as much as the do in Nigeria, the profit capital of the world. The same is true in the so called green pastures. Africans become productive by tulasi working against all odds without tapping into the enabling environment they complained about at home. I still remember the day I carried phone books in the middle of a major street because I lied that I had a car. I had to get a friend to drop the phones books at different blocks so that I could deliver them from one office to another. African must wack nah, plus the fact that I had school fees to pay in September, a couple of months away. We all laugh and tell stories now but in those days, it was do or die! Would I do that in Nigeria? For wia? Greed makes us import refine and finished products like oil and export crude. Since that is where demand is. Japan gained entry into world market after bombing the heck out of them to rehabilitate them. Chinese gain entry to spite Russia. No single African country is a member of the world trade. Check it out. AZeD1: |
Miko, Supply and demand is the law of classical economics. We learned that from secondary school days. But I agree with Courage point if you read it carefully. He may even agree with you about supply and demand. We forget one thing though. That law does not work in Nigeria. You see, we are not only poor desperate to climb up the barrel, we are also greedy. We have more GREED problems in Nigeria than ethnic problems. Nigeria is a country where when goods become popular and demand is high, it becomes more expensive. Normally you would expect the factory to produce more, hire more workers, work two or three shifts. The more people buy, the price goes down, the cheaper. In my dear country, price goes up. Distributors hoard goods until people pay the price they want. If you remember when Dangote and Ibeto promised to flood the market with cement. One of the distributors in Akure, I think, decided to sell his cement for N1500.00. Other distributors were ready to lynch him. He closed his shop and ran. We thought bread would become cheaper when cassava content was implemented. Come to think of it, bakers were using cassava anyway before the implementation. As soon as paper implementation took effect, people refused to eat the cassava bread they were eating for a long time. It created bread shortage and bread prices has yet to come down. So devaluation is not a matter of supply and demand alone though you are right that we consume and produce nothing. Please if I may digress a little, with the indulgence of the readers. We were exporting less when our pound and naira was strong but we had restrictions on importation. Even after the war, we kept most of the restrictions. Gowon even boasted that money was not our problem but how to spend it. We lost our heads, all this time we had one to one pound or one naira to one and a half US dollar. We then went into argument or discussion on "liberalized" market. The poor man wanted to import everything including used clothes, food and other goods and services. This was supposed to increase our market share in the world. Manufacturers hailed liberalized market because they want to produce, employ more workers and factory equipment. They even threatened to lay off workers and they did to drive their points. All they wanted wanted was to stash forex abroad. Makers of sugar and water threatened. Bear and cocoa makers threatened. Cement importers threatened. To make good on their threats, they laid off workers. Bear in mind that all these factories depend on local materials of water, sugar, cocoa, coconuts and very little imports. Our currency value has been going down since then i.e after liberalized market. Who won? Forex billionaires! MIKOLOWISKA: |
CAN? I think we already have one as President. He tore up his membership when they almost assassinated him in Kaduna. |
This is my intention for this topic. Intellectual discussions before it was hijacked. Reasonable people have stepped forward and we may now continue the discussion. People bring in their perspectives and we may even agree to disagree. This is what intellectuals do. Cheap currency has its economic value despite my indignation for it in Africa. China has used it so effectively, competitors were crying. This is because China has cheap labor, heavy government manipulation and market control. China cannot be intimidated by Nuclear robbers. None of these is present in African countries. Yes, Nyerere tried in Tanzania, Lumumba tried it in Congo and even Nkrumah tried cocoa embargo worldwide. This was before successful Arabs oil embargo. Each of these failed. If you think each of these were economic failures, I have a piece of real estate to sell you at Ajaokuta Steel. We have to be careful with just talking about exchange in numerical terms. Some countries cut zeros from their currencies. Another way of saying the same thing is Kobo to Dollar is not the same as naira to Dollar. We have good ideas here. Tax on luxury goods and services, increase in minimum wage offset by cut in ourageous salaries in a poor economy as ours to discourage inflammation. Nevertheless, no country in the world allow open market especially to foreign goods and services. Yet this was a major concession by African countries when those countries that forced us into it protected their own markets. Take Enron for example. Developing countries got suspicious well before the collapse. President Clinton threatened each country from Asia to Africa of impeding American multi corporations. France demanded it's African colonies even after Independence to have reserve in it's bank to back French economy and to invest as they wish. Gold was in world reserve bank in England. During the World War and German division, some of the gold were moved to USA. This was the logic and gold was the standard for any solid currency. But Ghana was the Gold Coast. As much as I understand how difficult it is to reverse all these, Africans must not play dead and roll over anymore. We are already poor, hungry and dying anyway. We know what is going on. It is not all about economic logic but highly political racist policies backed by Nuclear robbers. We will bombed the hell out of you. Wait for another 20 years! Hell no. |
Here we go again. This was supposed to be a brain storming thread for well informed folks to contribute. They have managed to turn it to another Buhari topic. This much I will say. Your fake statistics are not new. You have many on your contributions, wealth, population inside and outside your rat holes. Yet, you have never achieved anything in your history as a people. In case I miss one, please let me know. Promises of El Dorado will not cut it. As for blame, ineptitude and failures, there is no difference between you and Buhari where your focus is. I do not give a heck about him. AtikuHausa, OkoroHausa or Buhari, not different as far as I care. My disappointment is Jonathan. Our first highly educated politician that came from an area denied and deprived not only at home but by international corporations. It was the best opportunity Deltans (no, Nigerians) had in a lifetime. By magomago or abrakata, he was dispossessed. In my neck of the hood, we call him AKOTILETA. Let someone translate. I nor know book. He went further, he turned Dansuki into father Xmas. De tin wey pain me pass be say, the foolish Santa nor knock my door. But seriously, when did we turn on one another? You cannot trust anyone from messager to oga patapata with any allocated fund anymore. Salary was sacred, they will not even deliver money to orphans. Nobody dared steal in his local area. Now funds are diverted. There is this Igbo saying that if you put sugar in baby's mouth, he won't spit it out. We were reduced to hustlers in a barrel trying to get out. Oyinbo see us struggling and gave us a helping hand. But before, oyinbo help us, we have to be "civilized" to become good Christians and Muslims. So oyinbo give babies sugar water. Babies love it. He gave us mirrors, babies love it and exchange it with gold, diamond, oil or uranium. Oyinbo give you pretty printed papers as currency with rigid stipulations that you can only buy from him, babies love it. He recruited some of us to Oxford and Harvard to justify Structural Adjustment, mumu love it. He gave you Devaluations, your educated fools justify it. Now, some of you are catching up to their chicanery but the educated fools are still enjoying their forex and want more because in twenty years, oyinbo will be proven right. Mumu, they have been saying that for sixty years, you are still in their market buying vanities. Instead of you to see reason, you cut yourselves into pieces and play the blame game. BTW, Developers are Developers. RAGU and You are both developers. But Africans, they see you as one and the same, wake up! immhotep: |
Mr. Notorious Tribalist, Your problem is deeper than this. The anger is somewhere else. Meet me there. Here is a place for the well informed and patriotic Africans that are well educated. By well educated, I do not mean those that school went through and crammed their masters notes and voices. Only to regurgitate it as classical economics to Africa. See you at the right place. nototribalist:Now next! Immho. This not about APC or PDP or Buhari. We had Jonathan PhD, better qualified than Ghana head of states. Yet he did not pass through school, school pass through him. We thought he was God sent but even if he was, people like you led him astray. The island he bought in Europe or America where he was going to relocate you all did not materialize: all the money you all stole vanished. The only problem is that he left poor Niger Deltans that played by the rules hoping and hanging in the air. While the thugs became billionaires employing a few of those that played by the rules and studied hard as told. So you gave us Buhari, anybody but Jonathan. Not again. Even if Jonathan got another opportunity, believe me, he would not touch you with Ruga. immhotep: |
So, Africa should take it and enjoy the rape. They are not alone. You do not understand that poverty breeds crabs pulling one another down the barrel. Adelaide2:Here is India crying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S955fkSZd8&list=PLosaC3gb0kGDhmBVm6M47jcU8BbEhTnlP&index=7&t=0s |
Who cares about country? This is about Africa. Did you say that to Nkrumah when he was fighting for Africa? nototribalist: |
On Economic relationship with the West. Here is President of Ghana at Harvard. Relationship between raw materials and finished products that has been getting worse for 50 years. From 15:05 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=httBKRFpXsY |
This lady attended the best schools in the world It does not make sense that 500 or 1000 African Currency could be one US dollar or British pound. Yet our African educated economists trained by London School of Economist, Oxford and Harvard justify it. From 4.10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfnruW7yERA |
[url]. https://photos.app./2t3qwC7WPhwEyA1P6 [/url] Can someone help load this video on the fraudulent basis of African currencies exchange rate. Thanks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfnruW7yERA from 410 |
Keeping Fulani roaming around in disguise for Ruga is the Oligarchy strategy. They keep them poor and away from home rather than cater for them with jobs they have no intention of producing with all the money they steal directly from the Treasury, do not want to educate their children by building schools, so keep them moving and dislocate them from their extended families. It is the only way Oligarchy can save their necks from revolts in the North against one another. They prefer them as Boko Haram and Maitatsine to go after Southerners and neighbors near them. Who in their right sense keep their people roaming like ancient tribes? |
These should be compulsory topics from primary to secondary Schools. But monkey see monkey do preferred the lies of European civilization used to kill and distort African history and accomplishment. You then wonder why we argue the obvious within Africa to favor colonial mentality. No need to mention names. |
Look, Zik had his blames piled on by Igbo and Yoruba. Even going by face value of the OP post, Zik got most votes because of the confidence Yoruba and Igbo had in him. After all, NCNC was passed over to him by the leader Herbert Macauley, a Yoruba man. Awolowo did not support Zik as leader, he supported Ikoli the Ijaw man as the leader. Do not blame Zik. Please put the blame in the right place where those with the least number of votes got more seats. |
Fake blogger or not, every opportunity must be used to discourage Ragu champions. If it is true that they have the right to stay anywhere in the country, why are they giving deadlines to others to leave their area? Honestly, personally I will not stay anywhere else in Nigeria today apart from my village. Even there, I can hardly breathe. Too many people. |
Grandstar, While reading your response, I thought we have fundamental differences. Actually, we just subscribe to different philosophies. We may want the same goal but different paths and different time to get there. You preach extreme capitalism that have never worked in Africa except to exploit the masses. I am not a communist and will never be. If we were crawling with African Economic Theory for the past 60 years, we would be better off than where we are right now. The world looked upon us as a regional power then. I am more pragmatic using methods that work but I am not going to wait for another 20 years before I see a turn around. You and your western allies from the London School of economics have been preaching the same thing for the past 50 years. Africa has gotten poorer not richer. Your time is up. Only revolution will solve this economic problems. You and I are not going to live for ever while capitalist theory encourages anything foreign to support open market for imports. Enough is enough. If we were eating and drinking garri, yam and banana everyday without foreign import, we could have been better off today. A good example as you pointed out about Buhari is Structural Adjustment. He refused it. IBB overthrew him and implemented it wiping out the middle class. Nigeria has never recovered. Again, you pointed out Devaluation, Buhari rejected it. Everyone called him illiterate. All he asked was to show him one African country that has ever recovered from devaluation. All the American and British trained economics cried that he would not take experts advice. He relented, has Nigeria got any better after the devaluations? When one Nigerian pound was almost three US dollars, one dollar was seven shillings and six pence. What were we exporting that we did not export more of? White people have fooled us too many times. British and American currencies are ordinary papers without value. Please understand that it is the reason they move away from Gold Standard. By Gold Standard, African currencies should be the strongest. How could Gold Coast currency be weaker than Ghana currency? Zimbabwe currency, in spite of gold and diamond has turned into toilet paper rolls. My point is this, currencies exchange has no ECONOMIC substance, only POLITICAL. The difference between Rhodesia and Zimbabwe is White and Black. What export was so important in Rhodesia that was not available in Zimbabwe. It is nothing but political not Economics. They dictate our currencies worth. They give us printed papers in exchange for our gold, diamond, oil uranium etc. Tell me the economic substance of the greatest debtor in the world, USA, with a strong currencies? You see, they fooll you guys at the London School of Economies, Harvard and Wharton Business School as if there is logic to their exploitation. It is pure mirage back by exploitation. When Kadhafi proposed Change from Dollar to Dinar for oil exporting countries, what happened to him? Well they cannot kill all of us and the Asians too. Chinese are moving for currency swap. Even the European Union are pushing Euro. What are Africans proposing? ECO? Please tell me my brother, what will happen to Africa today if we only trade with ourselves and ban foreign goods into Africa. Nigeria was almost lucky. The whole country thought we finally got our bearing together. Despite threats, Nigeria came together from North to South and elected a PhD for the first time into Government. He messed up big time, stole us blind with impunity. Why? it is our money we could do anything we want with it. I thought they bought an island in Europe for some of us in the South to move to since he left Niger Delta worse than he met it. Jonathan gave us Buhari and we deserve this punishment. So we have to live with Muhamadu Ruga Buhari. But some of us will never forgive Jonathan! |
Grandstar, You have revealed yourself. Your types are what IMF and World Bank planted in Nigeria to negotiate "grants", loan and foreign Aids. Your policies and their are like, as we say in Nigeria, like five and six. You are the one that forced Structural Adjustment and Devaluations on us telling us as usual that it will work out in ten or 20 years. Thunder fire them, not you O my broda. I see a traitor here, like his mentors, that want us to wait for another twenty years and if we follow their policies, we will be like Rwandan and Botswana. You are polite, so I have to be polite with you. Otherwise Nigeria has a saying with thunder and fire. Remember that is what they said about Ghana and Structural Adjustment only to apologize later that they did not take social factore into consideration. Who is fooling who after the fact. You said USA open their market. If you are talking about AGOA, you do not understand my broda. They find all types of excuses to waste our export. In the first place, why are we exporting raw cassava or yam when we can turn them into the same industrial starch they do and use in pharmaceutical product we import? Do you know how they ignore the same deal they gave West Indian countries on banana and turned around to use Central American countries against them? They wasted their banana by using one against the other. Cheaper price eeh. You are a core capitalist without mercy. No country in the world practice straight capitalism anymore . Not even USA. Yes they go to extreme like these days with the demagogue they have as President. But note that the most advanced countries today have mixed economy. China practice Communism at home and Capitalism outside. More than any country, it has been able to remove most of their people from poverty. Scandinavian countries have the highest standard of living and pleased with their system. I am not sure if you are confusing Iceland with Ireland but during the bail out, Ireland went almost bankrupt by following capitalist rule to bail out the banks while Iceland bailed out the people instead. Iceland came up on top. Oh, they want us to be richer so that we can buy their goods? Haba my broda. Why do you sound so much like their twins? You must have heard about Nyerere analogy used by many Africans when he met President Regan. It went like this. Regan said if you give a man fish, you have to feed him forever. True! Nyerere answered: If Africans bought one tractor with a ton of cocoa in 1960, two tons of cocoa for the same one tractor in 1970 and three tons of the same tractor in 1980, what is is left? Cocoa or labor! Ha! you wan kill man. Granstar, you wicked O. We be your broda na. You told us to devalue our currencies so that we could export more. How much more cocoa, oil, grand nut, cassava, Ruga, yams could we export if you buy them for nothing? To make matter worse, you take our fish and sell it back to us in cans. The same with our meat, you sell it back to us in corn beef. If we say we nor buy, you go put sanctions on us for not opening our markets. So textile market, we open and kill our local industry. Automobile manufacturing plant nko, we prefer imported Mercedes and BMW as open market. As "civilized" people nah. If we decide on local industry products, you call them counterfeit. Our school nko, na local. Our Medical school nko? They have to use English curriculum to be world standard. Cuba school, Chinese school and Russia school no be world standard? Dem dey get Nobel Price. Grandstar, whoever sent you, tell dewm say you nor meet us for house O! |
I do not think your redemption is near. If you want to compare ancient history pictures of Africans with Barbarians, call on Rossiki and Anonimi. lilwetdick: |
Sir, with all respect, you do not know your history. Africans are builders, others are destroyers. lilwetdick: |
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