₦airaland Forum

DeepZone:
Is it a crime to mention the region where it happened?

How about something like "Passport Forgery Gang Nabbed"? You should try it someday, it ain't difficult.    Imagine Deepzone running a national daily with her outrageous headlines . . .   

I have no doubts about the deplorable state of education in Nigeria, heck what really isn't in shambles? Is it Health care, employment  or security? But that doesn't give anyone the audacity to manufacture information out of thin air and parade them as ''fact''.  That's my ''beef''.

naijaking1:
While we all would never agree on the validuty of the Nigerian census figures, on a personal level, I have noticed a drop-off of the number of Igbo boys going beyond high school from my own family, I have been told that the situation also applies to the town and possibly the state in general.

But the percentage of the boys in my family (immediate and extended) that didn't go beyond high school is very low,  less than 3% to be precise, much less and we are talking about families where you have the average of 5 children, mostly  boys (I believe 75%). If you include only those born from 1979, you may end up with a percentage that is close to 1. This exactly is the same trend in my neighbourhood in Awka where the boys who didn't go beyond high school pale in comparison. Now, how do we reconcile this? You see, in the end we all end up in a brick wall because if somebody is telling me my statistics do not reflect the situation on the ground by a long stretch, I wouldn't be keen on accepting their data as the impeccable reflection of the situation on the ground.

skywalk:
I checked the site given above and its nt accurate. Am talking particularly about Kaduna State which i know, some of them are villages nd nt tribes, like numbers 190: kajuru, 224: manchok, 212: Kwaro. And some i hv never heard of before like, 308: Rumada, 309: Rumaya, 200: Kanufi, 207: Kiballo.

That has been my suspicion. I honestly do not think we have anything close to 100 ethnic groups in the right sense of the word. Clans and villages don't count.

Apparently, this is going to be an endless exchange of gibberish, yes gibberish because in the end, NOBODY  can give us any data that does not look like our trifling fraudulent census figures. You will disregard every data, experience and observation at my disposal as inconsequential while I will vehemently reject  your bogus collection of ''shocking'' data from the East. We can only depend on our 'drive by' observation and statistics which will all amount to gibberish in the end.

I don't think we have anything close to 250. Seems like somebody made this thing up for special effects. . . . I sure hope people are not counting clans and villages as ethnic groups

naijaking1:
@grafikdon
Good luck! So, you dey for Jamaica? I used to hang out at Queen's Hospital Center at 142nd st.

Yes o. 142nd is close to my 'Joint'. I used to avoid Queens Like cancer due to a series of unfortunate incidents, now I have ditched Brooklyn and I am back. . . somewhere in Hillside. . .

[quote author=onye_ngbu link=topic=181060.msg2925242#msg2925242 date=1223664152]biggjoe, Stop being modest,
I can assure you that he did not  talk to any 'chief'; red cap or blue cap. Period![/quote]I wouldn't bet on that. There are so many imbecilic Igbo people out there who would prefer to learn about their language and culture from some garbage posted by equally imbecilic professors of IGBOLOGY on Wikipedia. I've seen that countless times, especially from those "no vernacular in the house" morons who think that speaking English only elevates them to the rank of Gods, yet they still pronounce Polycarp as  Po-li-caaa-pu. . . with their 1000 ton bush village Mgbeke Akagbe Mgbagafo Igbotic accent that is so heavy it could shatter a bullet proof glass effortlessly. . .      Porly  Okpu!!! Porly Por-Por!!!. . . 

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=181060.msg2925094#msg2925094 date=1223662077]He wears a red cap so he is not one of those pseudz. . . . .
The man told me "Ibo" is the right word and not Igbo.
I think i would be inclined to believe him more than anyone else. [/quote]Tell that Igbo ''Chief'' that Dibia Grafikdon Agwoturumbeukpakanagbanudummili says he is one of those trifling nonsensical Igbo schmucks who flog their children for speaking ''vernacular" in the house. If he doesn't  desist from pulling a fabricated ethnic group out of thin air, I may use his 'red cap' as a toilet paper. . .    Make sure he gets my message. He has been banned indefinitely from blessing Kolanut by the council of elders

idupaul:
whats d diff , ibo/igbo

They are like a duck and an elephant . . .

blackspade:
grafikdon, you are behind this masterpiece?!? You should really consider going big with this, it's an amazing series, and cannot wait until the next installment! Excellent work my bruva

There is a feature film in progress (Something similar to mark of Uru). . . release date: 2009, if things go as planned 

Kobojunkie:
Actually, I am not claiming to know more than you do but I can definitely say that you can not claim to know more than I do in this case as you have yet to show any proof to refute my claim. So again, telling me you are on the ground means nothing and prooves nothing. As I have made it clear, it is my observation that the so called myth is not myth at all.  Prove me wrong but don't feed me with the old " YOU ARE NOT ON GROUND MEANS YOU DO NOT KNOW" line. For all I know, you could be in Afghanistan making that claim. So again, prove me wrong or accept that which you call myth may well be more reality than myth.

Just like you did not provide me any statistic to back up your claim of Igbo boys not going to school. You summed it up based on your observation of the situation on the ground. So tell me, what makes your 'drive by' observation more credible than the observation of someone who has been on the ground for 22 years? You want me to provide you with statistics? You gotta be kiddin' LMAO!!!  

Kobojunkie:
I have seen how people cling to tribal believes here but I do not understand how you came to the conclusion that I am in some way claiming majority of ibo boys are school dropouts. Last I checked, completing high school degree in Nigeria is enough for anyone to claim Educated in Nigeria. Is a high school certificate holder now considered a school dropout if he/she chooses not to continue to college, in Nigeria ?

I am not clinging to any tribal sentiments here, Kobojonkie. I could care less who is more or less Educated because honestly I consider things like that as worthless gibberish because nobody can give us impeccable statistics, I mean. . . NOBODY. It is more than impossible as far as Naija is concerned, therefore there is no need to waste my time converting Osama Bin Laden into a clean shaven-Bible wielding-incantation chanting Pentecostal Pastor. Heck, if we do a percentage based comparison  we are more likely to find out NONE of the WAZOBIA people are in the lead in terms of education.

Obviously you didn't get my point at all. The myth is that MOST IGBO BOYS do not go to school. This was the reality after the civil war since MOST Igbo parents could not do much with 20 pounds. Only those who had people outside or those in petty trading had the financial capacity to send their children to school. As a result of this, there was a mad rush into business as means of survival and financial stability in the face of insurmountable odds. This trend has changed over the years but a lot of people did not realize that (or they refused to acknowledge the change). Now Kobo, that's where I am coming from. I know there are Igbo boys who couldn't be bothered with school, on the other hand I also know there are those who are hell bent on going to school and they outnumber the former. Unfortunately, the latter group are not the 'noise makers' so you see/hear more of the former (hustler) groups.

Kobojunkie:
Call it ramblings but so far what I can go on is what I see and have learnt. Only wish we had stats and data to back this up, then it would be more interesting but again, I do not trust in what I am told, I trust that which I know to be fact. If you have a problem with that, that is fine by me. Unless you are going to follow this claim that my "ramblings" are not factual with proof, you and I know this is futile.

C'mon Kobojunkie, aren't you asking me to do the impossible here? You stand by what you have learnt but I should give you factual proof? Like you said, this is futile because like you I will cling to what I have learnt for 22 years. . . except your own is "drive by" observation. . .  


Ok, kobo. . . I shouldn't have used 'rambling'. . . my apology

@ Quotasystem, according to the reasoning of Kobojunkie, JAMB is insignificant since those Igbo boys flush their ''JAMB" down the toilet and go sell bicycle parts at Alaba or shout "Ose!!!" and "Ochanja!!" at Upper Iweka, thereby joining the crop of ''illiterate'' 'Ibo'  High School Drop outs. . . errr . . . Graduates.

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry, I only trust what I know to be fact and not what someone tells me because he or she assumes self more knowledgable when it comes to Nigeria simply cause he/she believes he is on the "GROUND". This for me has nothing to do with tribalism or the sort. Heck, I do not pledge allegiance to any one tribe in that country. I do know from the much I have seen, both here and in Nigeria, I can definitely state that

1) The Educational system is in shambles. There are so many Nigerians who do not believe that is the case. You still hear stories of how some Nigerian students being able to
win an award or two abroad translates to the school system in Nigeria being as good as those in developed countries. Some of those who have made similar claims are ibos.

2) The trend continue to show that Ibos are less educated than yorubas. This statement is not made  out of bias but simple from my observation as a Nigerian. Unless someone can show stats to prove otherwise, I believe I will hold to this until I see a change in this area.

3) Having a high school certificate  from one of the public schools in Nigeria is no longer enough when considering what it means to be educated.

Your laughable rambling is no different from that of the New York armchair annalist, period. Once again, You cannot claim to know more than the person on the ground. You talk about fact but you want me to believe that 'majority' of Igbo boys are school drop outs based on what you have ''seen". That is the bone of contention here and not the state of the Nigerian educational system, which we all know is not exactly bread and butter.

Mandela and MLK. . . to those who are nominating Mugabe, please do not kill us with epilepsy and cardiact arrest with your bizarre and shocking nominations.

stillwater:
So I've been living in ignorance all this while Chai!!!

It's not your fault now, we have to blame it on the "Teacher Eliza"

Good riddance to the atrocious garbage that has no place in our currency in the first place. I believe we should go ahead and remove every Arabic inscription in our military insignia. . .

Kobojunkie:
YOU SURE ROFLMAO!!! you don look this place finish make that kind statement?? ROFLMAO!!

Yup! Trust me on this one, I am the guy with an ear to the ground. I don look everywhere. . . except Okija shrine since I want to be alive to tell the tale . . . 

Nope, I am just saying you can't claim to know more than the person on the ground. . .

It remains a MYTH. You musta seen double in that case because there is a huge percentage of the boys in tetiary institutions. You probably did a census of the motor park touts  . Many of those who missed out on tetiary institutions went back. I am well aware there are those who wouldn't be bothered after high school but the last time I checked, getting into ''school'' was almost like a fashion statement to the point where the title "student'' became one of those Nigerian 'status', nearly everyone scrambled to get that glorious ''chieftancy title'' which came with lots of ''benefits'' including huge discounts from mama put and buka  .

Your claim reminds me of one man  I met in New York who's never been to Nigeria in 15 years but he was quick to proclaim with authority that "Igbo boys don't go to school anymore". I was just a few months old in the country so I took a little time to educate the delirious armchair analist. Nobody is claiming that every Igbo boy goes to school but the concept of "most Igbo boys are school drop outs" is a myth that refused to go away.

Kobojunkie:
roflmao!!! oh my gosh!!! Why the name calling roflmao!!!

By the who, I believe Naijaking is on the mark there with the current state when it comes to Educations and the ibo people.

No, he's dead wrong. "Igbo Boys don't go to school" is a myth that refused to go away.

stillwater:
This was what I was taught in school.

Must be one serious "Teacher Eliza". . .  

ifyalways:
hehe
Hebo people ?I beg your pardon.Don't ever call me that
@OP,i like your location.which "ofe" biko ?

"Ofe Oha"

. . . the worst soup, ever!

99.9% of our leaders from head to toe are malevolent thieves and hard core criminals. . . their hearts serve as digestive systems. They can all burn in the deepest depths of hell

ifyalways:
Grafik leave me hand jor
I know am an Igbo girl and thats the only thing that matters to me.If you like call me ebo/ibo or whatever,heaven knows it wont change my blue igbo blood
whats in a name sef?lol

Why I go leave you na? These Hebo people sef. . .

ifyalways:
rotflmao
who cares?
As long as i know where i come from and what i am,why should i be perturbed about what who calls me
abeg this thread too dey funny

Look at this Inyamiri Ebo woman. . . Omo Hibo like you. . .

naslinks:
POINT OF CORRECTION:Ibo is the tribe,while Igbo is the Language.Ibo is the correct name of the tribe,the language they speak is Igbo.

Professor of IGBOLOGY, stop pulling information out of thin air,  (Or using Wikipedia as a reference)    You are wrong. Igbo is Igbo is IGBO. The language and the people are the same. Do not fabricate a non-existent ethnic group and parade it as a legitimate entity. Don't even bother to give me ''links'' to support  the atrocious fabricated "Ibo" ethnic group because only delirious imbecilic Igbo people parade such trifling, frivolous, inconsequential, nonsensical and distorted concept. 

They are usually those coconut headed Schmucks who punish their children for speaking ''vernacular'' in the house.

[/quote][quote author=F_Marshal link=topic=180764.msg2919538#msg2919538 date=1223578218]Ogbuefi Nke Izizi!! Aka na ese Animation 1 of Naija! Na hia u dey hide since ehn? 

My bro-d-a na so e be oh. . . I just dey pop in occasionally to catch my small cyber fun. . .  How my people over there? You know say my flava don't fade over there so na small small I go dey bow out. . . 

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=181060.msg2919467#msg2919467 date=1223577130]My finger types what ma mouth says.
16 yr old scorpion?? I will have to raid London Zoo to get that.[/quote]You don't have to, I'll bear the burden, just give me the money and I will get the scorpion. . .

way of the dibia. . .

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=181060.msg2919364#msg2919364 date=1223575679]Our people are too aggressive.
Every little detail counts. The way u stare at them even counts.
This is why it takes just 6 nano seconds to lynch anyone on the streets of Lagos.
We are like a book of matches. . . . always ready to flare up!!!

U reckon??
How about "Ibo" is easier to pronounce than "Igbo"
I have a very fat tongue which gets in the way when i do "gb". [/quote]That  can be forgiven but If I see you type "Ibo" you shall pay a fine of 12 purple cows and a 16 yr old scorpion. . . 

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=181060.msg2919326#msg2919326 date=1223575195]I know u just did but why would u waste bandwidth just because u want to tell members to say Igbo and not Ibo??

Very well then. . . .[/quote]Going around in circles eh? I don't have to tell them, they already know. . . whether they want to type Igbo, ebo, hebro or Ibi, that's their beezwax. . .

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=181060.msg2919272#msg2919272 date=1223574516]If u pay attention to serious issues like strife, hunger, HIV, abject poverty and reh reh reh in Nigeria, u won't have the time to query "Ibo"
One of the few problems we have as Nigerians is misplacing our priorities.[/quote]And that includes intentionally doing the wrong things because to us they are inconsequential. Pointing out an obvious error doesn't make one the perfect candidate of misplaced priorities.



[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=181060.msg2919272#msg2919272 date=1223574516]So what is the difference between Igbo and Ibo??[/quote]I just gave you the answer, would you like me to repeat myself?




[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=181060.msg2919272#msg2919272 date=1223574516]Would u slap a white man for saying Ibo??.[/quote]I wouldn't slap anyone for saying Ibo as that will be the act of a deranged man but I see nothing abominable or malicious in telling the person the right term is "Igbo"