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^^^^lol Do you understand what it means to love unconditionally.. can and is it possible for an all-powerful Deity to lack and need anything... Is an all knowing/intelligent , unconditional loving , omnipotent being/deity capable of judging/punishing and commanding ? ...

I don't want to waste my time so if you can answer these simple questions to the best of your abilities then we can talk..

@ logicboy for God sake don't keep your anger boiling inside you. You have to let it out.. You have to be mature about it and There is no need to be violent but don't keep emotions bottled inside of you...The irony is that putting up a facade and keeping so called negative emotions inside will eventually erupt in a violent manner.. all violent acts are due to repressed anger and hate..

If/when something or someone makes you angry express it in a mature way and try to solve the problem with the person..

On the topic of discrimination you have to understand that most religious people are ignorant and only acting on their ignorance .. so show love to those who discriminate against and wish them no harm.. two wrongs do not make a right.. we are all one-- The religious , the non religious like me and you atheists.. we are all GOD in flesh.. when you harm another you are only really harming yourself because we are all one--

^^^This is not directed at your personhood but understand that only a fool and an ignorant will fear a loving God.. This statement " the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom " -- a very foolish and ignorant statement indeed - has done more harm to the unthinking religious folks indeed.. My friend if you have to "act" godly( or anything for that matter ) due to the fear of God, then you are/were not godly in the first place.. you are only pretending to be godly due to your fear..

When someone loves you- - especially one who does unconditionally - you love them back..you don't reciprocate by fearing them..start thinking for a second and you will see the truth in my statement..

That statement should rather read" the love of God is the beginning of wisdom "..BTW I am not here to talk about a God that you obviously know little about so if you want to you should probably meet me at the religious section where I spend the bulk of my time on nairaland--when/if I get the time..

chidyhels: The only tin that wl make a man or woman not shit is D FEAR OF GOD and discipline.

did you perhaps mean the fear of the devil.. why fear a loving God.. or is your God malevolent? it appears most of you fear God more than the so called devil

iebanehita: Mr.BrownJay and GreatGenius (Hmm!!).. Una matter really long o!.. Lemme contribute my own 2cent in d way i cn...



Ok.. Picture ds:

Mary is in Luv wit Joseph,, both r undergrads.. Hence, dey jt help eachoda out,,wheneva eida is broke!.. Both aint frm wealthy family..

John, an undergrads frm a wealthy family, has bn stalkin Mary all ds yhl,,tellin r 2slp wit him, jt for 1nyt n 15K wld b her's. She wld bluff him n reluctantly says NO,, claiming John is hs First n Last n she wld never slp wit any guy, cz of money.

Her FRIENDS has bn on her neck ,sayin:

''John has never pestered any grl for ds long o!.. Babe,Its jt 1nyt na.. Bsyds, Joseph wld b in town 2spend d wknd wit hs aunt by den. He will never suspect u. You knw he loves n trust u.''

after so much pressure frm frnds,, she succumbs..!!

Is it clearer now?!.

lol and from this analysis you deduced she slept with the guy because of pressure from her friends? Cmon son..

MRbrownJAY: MISTAKE #1
you are confusing the whole discussion........

I am not- my contentions are very much in line with the topic- but on the contrary suffice it to say you are the one confused like majority of the masses who cannot see past the "weakness" drivel..

the act of cheating is still (to the best of my knowledge) the act of infidelity in a r/ship...... what/how/when/where OR who you cheated with is irrelevant to this discussion,

relevant or not, you are still missing the core of the issue.. the question is as to why the sexes "cheat" ie sleep or have an affair with another, and not why would one not inform their "significant other" in the first place before proceeding with the act of "infidelity".. again let me reiterate that affirming the lame "weakness" excuse as reason for people sleeping around/cheating is tantamount to a subject(a criminal perhaps) being interrogated as to why he committed a heinous crime replying that it was due to an act of "weakness".. or in the case of "religious" fanatics blaming the "devil" as the causality of their "evil" acts.

as the important point IS: NOT DOING WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO DO IN A R/SHIP. this is where the cheater's weakness lies, it lies in the fact that he doesnt have it in him to do what is RIGHT.

again the "weakness" could be said to be in one not disclosing his/her intentions before the act and not the reason for engagement in the act.

he is not STRONG WILLED enough to do what is RIGHT. being RIGHT is too hard for such person!!!

it matters not if one is either strong willed or not- that's an excuse- weakness is not the reason for sleeping with someone..

but speaking of doing what is RIGHT. who gets to set the rules.. who sets the rules of propriety. Understand that your wrongs/right might be different from someone else's..I can give you instances where your "DOING WHAT IS "RIGHT" IN A R/SHIP" mantra could be argued to be a "wrong" or detrimental from another's perspective..

my point is ultimately there is no such thing as right/wrong. it is all based on perspective. no one really does anything inappropriate based on the view of their world/reality..

MISTAKE #2
many men/women will give you different answers as to why they cheated but the ONLY reason is what i have told you: failure to do whats right because of weakness from their part. call it what you want, it is still and will always be WEAKNESS FROM THEIR PART to abide by the rules of r/ship.

lol maybe you should begin by telling us what the rules of relationship are and what constitutes the right thing to do in a relationship in your opinion.. Because brother man your so called ONLY reason which looks plausible to you on the surface really actually crumbles the moment it is dissected.

MRbrownJAY: ^^^bro, you are the one who are missing the point completely, so i will try to help you understand ONE more time..... since you obviously dont see the link between being weak and cheating ( i thought Iebanehita had made it clearer for you).

here is the clue: in a r/ship, you are committed to a person, to respect them, to respect your r/ship, to be faithful etc...so, now that we all agree on that, let us look at what would make a man disrespect his partner or r/ship in such manner, without doing what is RIGHT (aka break up first). is it maybe the lack of self control(aka weakness)? sexual pressure (weakness)? emotional pressure (weakness)?
however you want to look at it, it is all about weakness from the cheating person's part.

as for what you wrote afterwards, filling a void is NOT the issue here, the problem in this picture is filling a void when you are pretending (or fooling yourself) that everything is ok. if you have needs in your life then let the person (who is sharing that life with you) know about it. if you dont then you are simply showing the weak man that you are by being afraid to be honest to your partner

lol brother man you are the one not getting it. you are failing to grasp the core of the issue because you are not thinking deeply about it or even your own contentions. you are not reasoning like i thought you would-so i will make my responses brief

labeling or calling a "cheater" weaked-willed for failing to inform or outrightly break up with their "partner" before sleeping with another, IS NOT THE SAME THING AS THE REASON FOR DOING THE ACT-"cheating"- IN THE FIRST PLACE-herein lies the core of the issue that you are falling to get..
for lack of a better analogy it is like saying the reason for Christians attending church or believing in Jesus is because of the fear of the devil.

nobody is asking anyone to stay unhappy, we are saying that IF/WHEN you are unhappy then you MUST tell your partner instead of crawling like a thief in the dead of night trying to solve the issue selfishly and immaturely.

listen my friend failure to inform your partner if/when unhappy-an act of immaturity or weakness as you put it- does still not make it the reason why people "cheat"/sleep with others...

we can delve into this topic and expatiate thoroughly on it but until you grasp this fact that the core reason is not necessarily an act of weakness, everything we say will be futile.

MRbrownJAY: any man who cheats on his partner IS MISSING SOMETHING FROM HIS R/SHIP. at the time, men may think they have everything they desire but they don........ get your facts right. if they had everything they desired then that extra woman would have NOTHING to offer a cheating man. a cheating man is in need of something EXTRA that his gf cannot provide for him. men and women are just the same.

whether it is adventure, fresh toto, the right vibe or passion, everyone cheats for a damn reason, and that reason is what they are missing in their r/ship. unless of course, you believe that men cheat for NO damn reason.

of course there is a reason for everything. but you have failed to show me how cheating is as a result of weakness..

Now to your bolded..how do you consider filling a void as "cheating"..who is cheating on who? how is filling something that is missing a cheat..the only cheating there is,-which is to yourself- is if you fail to fill the void that is obviously missing..

betraying yourself in order not to betray another is betrayal nonetheless. and it is the highest form of betrayal..staying unhappy(because society might ignorantly label you a cheat) in order to make another happy is the highest form of betrayal to yourself..

iebanehita: dude, its in-between d lines..!!
Weak,,, i.e Not Strong-willed, Easily swayed by emotions, Lacking Self-control, Succumbing to pressures frm Society, Peers etc.

ok so how does anyone of these has to do with cheating..are you insinuating that anyone that "cheats" is succumbing to pressures from society? or lacking self control. could you explain to me why and how a man sleeping with a woman consensually equates to lacking self control?

Stegomiah: I understand women ar weaker vessels,

you understand women are weaker vessel? how so and in respect to what? understand that being considered "weak" physically is not the same thing as being "weak" mentally..

but i tink Men cheat because dey can,

this is an ignorant statement. women also cheat because they can.

yl women cheats because sumtin is missn from dia rlationship or lovelife

i don't like using the word "cheat" because there is really no such thing as cheat. but understand that a woman will only cheat on a man that she is not attracted to..

MRbrownJAY: women AND men cheat because they are WEAK. end of story!

this a a very weak and generic response. be specific. weak as in what?.

^^^ lol exactly what I expected from a tantrums throwing-- at the least challenged- ignorant atheist..tuck your tail between your legs and run ..

Me want attention ? From you? Lol.. The same guy who was crying wolf because someone was using an ID not even remotely similar to his.. Lol. check your posts per day and check mine. How many threads do you see me on ?

MRbrownJAY: pls care to tell us all why women cheat, if not for the same reasons as men?

you made an assertion so you should be stating why you believe or said so..like I asked earlier from where did you get that notion from?

ooman: You are probably high on cocaine or something. I have opened over 100 threads on this same topic, you never commented on one and now you are having a rush of debating with an atheist??

I cant derail this thread, you ve done that enough.

If you are sure of yourself, join one of my threads and I will meet you there or open one.

You are too much in a rush for me to take you seriously .

you have opened a 100 threads proving there is no God? and yet can't open one more lol...why don't you start a fresh one with just you and I..

And no I am definetly in no rush to debate an atheist especially not you- I have seen your level of understanding on some threads I have been on with you god brother...

Though I have seen you open some nice threads I usually don't comment on the others because I am afraid most of them as evidenced by the OPs are downright borne of out ignorance.. so no need...

I don't have a problem with you or anyone else being an atheist..in fact I will rather people become atheist or agnostics than religious- it is my belief that atheist and agnostics are atleast thinking and ridding themselves off the shackles of religion..

Neither do I have a problem with religious people.. everyone is free to believe in a concept of God they so chooses however away from the truth it is..They will eventually get to the truth however many incarnational lives it takes..

What I have problem with is ignorant evangelical atheists-like yourself- and Christians/Muslims...

You don't have to jump into every thread and shout there is no God, there is no God..you are no different from a Christian who threatens people with hell for refusal to worship their god..

Again whenever you are ready open your 101th thread stating your reasons why there is no God and we will discuss ..

ooman: I take it you are not a xtian because you using he and she for god would piss xtians/muslims off.

You are the one challenging me, you open a thread, call me in, display your knowledge, get on your soapbox and let see who comes out with his beliefs shattered.

As for Solomon, lets leave that to the thread

there you go putting your tail between your legs.. you come to the thread shouting there is no God, there is no god -- a belief that the majority of people do not share--.. I ask you to open a thread to state your reasons-something you claim you have done a couple times- and all of a sudden you developed cold fingers? ..

What is one more thread going to do..or perhaps you are afraid...you brought the topic of God not existing up and am only asking you to state your reasons ... Or you suddenly have no idea why you made that statement..

BTW if you so wishes you can state your reasons for your belief here on this thread so you can hopefully shatter my beliefs as you claiming.. I m waiting ..

And oh feigning ignorance of my not being a Christian or religious is not going to help you here OONAN..

ooman: I have done that multiple times here and no religious person was wise enough.

Even Solomon left your god because he is nothing.

of course no religious person will be wise enough.. they are in the same boat you're in- lack of understanding of what and who God is.. The only difference between you and them is you foolishly due to ignorance believe he exists not .. while they believe she exists but have no idea who she really is but only know him through the lenses of their pastors and ministers..The ministers who also still have no idea or refuse to..

Oh BTW you have not done nothing.. you have only ridiculed Christians for their ignorance.. not the same as proving there is no God..

Asking for a prove of God means you have no idea of what or who the ALL THAT IS is.. again open a thread and state your reasons why you believe there is no God..

And what exactly does Solomon "leaving" God- if there is such a thing - to do with God does not exist..the folly of a young atheist..

butterflyy: I knew a little about d law of attraction n this ur last quote is on point. I read n watched ''THE SECRET'' so i believe its basically the thought. Though i want Joel to continue, I might learn one or two things.

well even the " secrets" didn't do enough justice to the law as it was mostly done for commercial reasons.. but atleast it exposed the masses to the the law- which was important since most people have no idea that they create their own reality...

The law of attraction is simply this... As a volitional creature created in the image and likeness of God, you create your own reality.. And as such you attract into your life things that you vibrate towards--through your thoughts and/or words, and/or deed/action..

If you think/speak/act evil then you will attract it.. and so it is for all things.. most "poor" people wants to be rich yet constantly act/speak/think of themselves as unworthy, unlucky , poor, not good enough, etc etc and still wonders why their "misfortune" changes not to a better one.. some even believe- especially religious ones - that being wealthy and having an abundance of money is ungodly.. most believe money is evil ... and then wonder why they always broke..

Peoples believes are going to manifest/create their realities consciously or unconsciously... If you are always finding yourself in the mist of violence or attracting " evil" or " bad" things are always happening to you, then it will do you well to monitor your thoughts, words and actions..

Change your beliefs and you change your reality. Change your reality and you change your world.. if you think evil your world will be full of evil, you think and act good then your world will be peaceful and good.. The peaceful will always inherit the earth( the "meek shall inherit the earth" as jesus put it), while the violents or those who "live by the sword " will perish ..

You are always going to attract into your world/reality the things you vibrate towards-this is the law.. a natural law.. The law of attraction ..

^^^^ why don't you open a thread and tell me why there is no God.. might be able to help you on your ignorance...I understand religion makes people agnostics and rightly so but claiming there is no God solely based on your experiences with religion is very un-intelligent...

Open a thread and state your reasons why you believe there is no God and let's discuss

@ joel.. do not take this the wrong way..but you should stay from "teaching/talking " about stuffs that you have limited knowledge on.. The law of attraction is very simple--you making harder than it really is..... some of the things you talking about have very little to do with the law of attraction..

" as a man thinketh so it shall be"-- in a nutshell using a quote from your bible is basically what the law of attraction is..

What a silly thread.. does it really matter how many ladies a man done been with- and vice versa.. will stating how much you been with in anyway add to your confidence ?

MRbrownJAY: REASON WHY WOMEN CHEAT: exactly the same as why MEN cheat!

not exactly the same reasons my friend .. where did you get that from

@frank how you been brother man

mollie12: Some serious mumbo-jumbo. This is obviously not a biblical perspective.

like I said in another thread somewhere,the bible is the least purveyor of truth on many things concerning God..The bible is highly distorted and no sensible human should take most of the things in there serious.

Of course the person revealed their actual religion when they started talking 'chakra'.

so if i had mentioned Jesus name would that have given me out as a "christian"?

We bind the spirit of confusion IJN.

why not bind the spirit of confusion in your name.. why in jesus name? what you think the name of jesus is more powerful than your name?

Royal^Pearl^:
Do you have to be rude

wasn't my intention..hope she is not offended..but she will be fine..

Miss_3v3: What exactly are you talking about or trying to say

if you read and failed to understand then maybe its a little above your head..I can't help you there sista..

obadiah777: YOU DO ERR. 666 IS THE NUMBER OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE NOT NO GADDEM PINEAL GLAND CHAKRA

I do err? The Roman empire? Or you meant the Roman catholic church? Because the Roman empire is no more...

Btw did you read where I said the more power you have the greater the potential for more love or destruction.. and as such if you're in a position of immerse power and using it for destruction instead of loving, dividing instead of uniting, etc the masses are going to view and label you as an anti-Christ( anti-love)- and rightly so..

Again 666 is your 3rd eye turned upside down...your 3rd eye is on your forward a little above and between your eyebrows..every human has it..

^^^Lol about FYIing me about Obama..this topic is obviously over your head..you are displaying beta male characteristics...

Again saying money equals status means you have no idea what status is... Does bill gate have more status than Obama? the answer is no.. I would discuss with you more but I can't take you serious if you think money equal status...

Money being one form of a status symbol doesn't necessarily mean your money equals your status..you are not thinking my friend ..

speaking of keys.. STATUS is a key not money necessarily.. money is not the same thing as status even though some of you erroneously think it is..

a woman will sleep with someone with STATUS before someone with money..for instance most women will sleep with obama or the POTUS before they would with bill gates-who obviously has more money..will sleep with a popular actor than they probably again would with bill gates..

pompori king: All your points aren't even real op you're talking like this is a movie.just accept money is key

money has never really been a key-ask your girl.. you/beta males have made it a key.. you shouldn't go out there to make money because you think without it you wouldn't get into a woman's pants..

as a man you should strive to be successful in all your endeavors. it shouldn't be because you assume it will greatly increase your chances with women.. that's not intelligent. most guys showers gift on a woman they have just met when they do not even deserve or earned it..

btw i am not the op. this is my second or third time to the romance section. i try to stay away from here due to the level of ignorance on display sometimes as evidenced by this thread..

50calibre: You are in fantasy land! Looks like you've been watching too many fairy tales.

My candid advice to you : if you think or are counting on the fact that a woman would love you with no money, ahead of a financially secure guy, then You are in for a rude awakening.

Women of these days are hardwired to be attracted to good things, luxury, comfort not poverty or wretchedness. It's basic human instinct. That "woman cheating on her rich husband with her poor boyfriend" thing is nonsense, nollywood sh*t, it doesn't happen in the real world except the woman is mentally deranged. When you understand what classes of society means, then you would know better.

no it looks like you have not been paying attention.. its time to pay attention to your women and your world..you have no idea what women really wants.. you do all the wrong things to get a woman to like you and then come crying that "i did everything for this woman and yet she left me or cheated on me.."

it is not a matter of women of these days.. women from eons have always been attracted to goods things and luxury..nothing new.. it is part of one of the things women seek-security.. but understand that security is not the most important thing for a woman.. love and attraction is.. the unfortunate thing is that most men do not know how to attract so women are left to in some and most cases settle for the man that can provide the security that they also seek- besides the other attributes they looking for and fail to see ..

nevertheless a woman will sleep with someone she is attracted to in a heart beat before do that with one who will provide her with security and all the finer things in life..

there is a reason why most "nice" guys or "good" guys do not do well with women..not because women are ingrates or heartless or they dont like to be catered and cared for...but becuase of the message that nice guys sends while being nice..manipulation..

the message they send to women is that "hey i know i am not good enough for you and so i am going to try my best, go out of my way to be overly nice to you even at times when you don't deserve it just so i can get into your pants".. nice guys and beta males that try to be nice and impress the women erroneously assume that acting and being nice should equal to leg opening for them.. unfortunately females do not see it that way..they perceive such acts as manipulative..and rightly so..