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50calibre: No! Having money is different from wooing a woman with money or gifts. Money doesn't tell lies or hide itself, if you are well to do, women must notice you plain and simple. All that long list of wooing techniques only applies to poor guys. When you have money, you get to circumvent those hurdles.

no need to use techniques be you poor or rich..if you manipulate a woman into "liking" you eventually your true character will seep out and she will figure you out for who you are...a woman knows instantly if she is going to sleep with you instantly or let you wait the moment she starts interacting with you..if she doesn't feel the connection she is definitely placing you in the "wait zone" or "play hard to get zone" or worst still "lets just be friends zone".. if you are rich and she is not attracted to you she is only going to use you..period.

You can't tell me that a woman can love a cobbler and decide to have a future with him can you? The head always rule over heart these days.

well the head might tell her to roll with a "rich" guy for security sake but there will be no love... again she will most likely always cheat.. worst still she might have the rich guy take care of someone else kid-possibly the man she truly loves or attracted to...women are most likely not going to sleep with someone she is not attracted to during her ovulation period..fact..

pompori king: Yes you're right I know if you were a girl you would pick the plumber's son over adenuga's son abi cos of the way he makes you feel..keep jonzing

are saying that does not happen...if a woman is highly attracted to the plumber son she is most likely to take the gift and money from adenugas son and use it to take care of the plumbers son.. she would also most likely be giving adenugas son sex once every 2 months if he is lucky while shacking the plumbers son two to three times a day.. it is all about attraction my friend be wise..

most of you don't understand that when you set out to impress a woman-in whatever fashion be in money etc- you are sending the wrong message.. you are putting her on a pedestal and indirectly telling her you value her more than yourself..

dont impress a woman or anyone. be your self always. be alpha and display alpha qualities. an alpha male does not try to impress..

50calibre: Money is prerequisite for love in this present day and age. Love is like a fire, but money is the fuel that keeps it burning. In the absence of money, the love would simply extinguish after a short period of time, no two ways about it.

If you think a woman would put love ahead of financial security, then you must be in dreamland.

at bolded..not true. money does not equal love..read what i said earlier to another poster.."if you have to spend money on gifts,expensive dinners and shopping to impress her, then you are telling her your money is all you have going for you and nothing else.. if all you have going for you is your money i promise you your sex life with her will be proportional to how long your pocket is"..

if you set that precedent of wooing her with your money then of course she will only be with you because of your money..women are not fools. no one in their sane mind will decline a free gift..

Charles Shaw: i actually tot u were a greatgenius,
NoDoubt ur a greatDolt.

says the man or should i say boy who thinks money is the way to a womans heart.. my doltness will be wisdom compared to your ignorance... only a low intelligent female will fall for a man who woos her with money...

pompori king: Niccur you are talking bull..nowadays before a girl can be attracted to you.there must be money b4 she even considers falling for you.women are drawn to successful men,how the man handles it from there is another discussion

women drawn to successful men is not the same thing as women are drawn to your money.. women are drawn to status yes but status does not necessarily equal money..

your first statement is very ignorant. if there must be money before a girl is attracted to you then she was not attracted to you in the first place...if you have to spend money on gifts,expensive dinners and shopping to impress her, then you are telling her your money is all you have going for you and nothing else.. if all you have going for you is your money i promise you your sex life with her will be proportional to how long your pocket is..

a woman is attracted to you only to the degree of how you make her feel..not your money..if it was money most girls will not be cheating on their so called " rich" boy friends and husbands...

Charles Shaw: Long Story.
Women r so inconstant.
Jus show a gurl money,
The same way u show monkey Banana nd the gurl wil fall head over heels for u. Simple

this is very ignorant..you actually happy that you have to show a girl money to get her to fall head over heels for you?..what does that say about you as a man... and the part about equating women to monkeys the less said about that the better... what kind of men is this world breeding lately

otooro: beautiful write up OP. please there's this lady i like so much but she wouldn't even talk or want to see me! i just recently met her and we don't knw so much abt each other yet. believe me, i'm a gentle man.

what exactly can i try out to get her attention, at least for a talk, tho' we're at different states. i don't mind travelling to where she is as much time as required.

if she doesnt want to talk or see you then there is a high chance she is not attracted to you..if she is not attracted to you then there is nothing you can do.. move on and go get someone else. there are a lot of women around..

you cannot convince a woman to like you if she doesnt

pompori king: 10yrs ago this would be relevant,but now the first thing you should have mentioned is money

if you think a woman will fall in love with you because of your money then you have a long way to go. you are only sending one message to a woman if you try to woo her with money.." you are not good enough for her and as such willing to compensate your unworthiness with money"- wrong message to send a woman.

it is always wrong to try to impress a woman or anyone for that matter..trying to impress a woman is what beta men do not what an alpha male should do..be wise my friend

@ op long post but understand that you cant make a girl fall in love with you. it is impossible. attraction is not a choice. just be yourself. be an alpha male and stop acting beta and wussy-like and everything will be fine..why do you even feel the need to make a woman fall in love with you..

Believe everything hook and line in Matthew at your own peril..of the four gospel Matthew is the most distorted...it is was written 100 yrs after the death of jesus and as such has a lot false statements and misinterpretations of the teachings of jesus..

If you want a "more accurate "- compared to the others even with its distortions as well- version of the man's teachings, the book of Mark should be your choice- it was written much earlier.. 30 yrs after his death so the oral message of his teachings was much fresh in peoples mind and thus was least distorted- at least as compared to the rest ..

okeyxyz: I know every religion that read the bible has misunderstood it till today, therefore they go on to enforce doctrines that the gospel did not preach, but for you to come and declare the the bible is no purveyor of truth... clearly demonstrates that you have no idea(like the ignorants, religious, seculars, etc) what it's true message are. It is the same bible i use as a witness to my gospel of s.exual liberty as a gift from god. You my friend, are judging(misjudging)this bible based on the ignorance/misunderstanding of it's proponents, and that shows you do not apply spiritual wisdom in your evaluations.

ok my friend stop pulling a strawman. When did the word least come to mean the same thing as the word no...

Look here god brother I know everything about the bible than you could imagine and I am afraid you are the ignorant one here. I also don't think you understand the difference between a judgment and an OBSERVATION... I repeat the bible is a least purveyor of truth on sexual matters..in fact also on a lot of things.. there are more false in the bible than truths god brother,unless you fail to see..

BTW if it a discussion you seek I don't have the time for it.(you are shouting my gospel of sexu.al liberty and yet making statements like fornication is a sin without a doubt - lol how sex.ally liberated are you really god brother ).. I did one with you a while back that led nowhere due to your lack of understanding and ignorance even of the man you follow and worship - jesus

Vilicious: I went to see my campus fellowship member (female) in her hostel, as I sat in her bed reading a magazine, she came in a short skimpy outfit. She looked so hot but as a christian i know it is wrong to do anything sexual until marriage. So i decided to leave her hostel . She told me to stay, that she had something for me. As i sat in her bed, she push me into the bed came on top of me and beg me to have se.x with her. She said she needed me badly. Apart from this, I have been facing other temptations. I feel like giving in sometimes. This is to those of you who are virgins or those of you who have decide not to have sex again till you get married
have you ever been tempted to have se.x before. Please share the story with us, How did you overcome it, if you fell into the temptation, still share it so that others will learn from your story. Thanks in advance.

why woud anyone repress sexual energy coursing through their body ,one of if not the most powerful yet basic of creative forces.. If only some of you knew the creative power of se.xual intimacy.. se.x is the creators gift to humans..

1. Let the choice to abstain from se.x be of your own choosing and not because a religious doctrine or bible say so~the bible is the least purveyor of truth in anything se.xual....there is a reason why the creators and proponents of the bible and religion in general frowns and view sexually intimacy as a sin--it really has nothing to do with "sin" or unholiness etc etc .. there is absolutely nothing sinful about sex. Nothing.. Sex is HOLY...

2. My advice is to be intimate with said girl if both of you like each other and there is mutual consent . Enjoy the act with every fiber of your being and feel guilty not.. you are not sinning or breaking any law..neither will you go to hell for it- it does not exist..

There is no such thing as a place called hell.. it does not exist.. Humans have made it all up..it is all in your head son.

ooman: In other words, prayer is having faith for something not done yet by giving thanks that it will be done.

Its is still useless because having faith about something is like you wanting a cup of water on a table and sitting still without standing to get it and prayer is like you talking to that cup of water to come to you itself.

i have said it countless times that you cannot have something that you want..if you want something you will have to go get it or you will never have it..it is that simple..how do you want the cup to come to you if all you are doing is wanting it..

You may have faith for all eternity and pray ad infinitum that the cup will get to you, but if you dont stand to get it, it will be there without getting to you

firstly if you have faith for all eternity you wouldnt even have to get up. you will command the cup and it will come to you in.. you will transcend physicality. you will tell a mountain to move and it will.( i know i know. i am talking about stuffs that you do not believe but you get the drift- the irony is that one cannot experience that which they believe in not)

and the moment you stand up to get it, faith becomes redundant, prayer becomes a total waste of time.

you mind expatiating on how faith here becomes redundant? can anything at all be done without faith-forget about religious faith because i am not talking about that sort of faith..

Faith remains useless and prayer remains a waste of time.

prayer is not a waste of time. you are praying all the time. prayer is an affirmation of what is so..prayer does not necessarily mean that you directing it-your thoughts, dreams, feelings- to a deity or God. likewise faith has nothing to do with religion..

turnstoner: Prayer according to @genius:

1. You want something, you pretend that you dont want it.

2. Instead pretend you already have it by being grateful and thankful.

Feels like children playing hide and seek to me

1. a)wanting something will definitely bring you more of that experience-wanting
b)pretending means you don't have it-is not there... if it is not there then you cant have it and you wont
c) choosing something instead brings it to you..

2. a)don't pretend.. trust and believe that you already have it-even before you ask.... that's why you give thanks in advance..for instance wanting a job and pretending you already have it will not get you a job-pretending means it is not there..you cannot fool the universe or yourself..instead trust and believe that you have one-that there is one or a couple out there waiting for you-this is faith.. and go out there and get it..

b) When you give thanks in advance for that which you choose to experience in your reality, you,in effect, acknowledge that it is there... in effect... an affirmation that even before you ask, God/the universe have answered. Thankfulness is thus the most powerful statement to God/the universe..Therefore don't supplicate or beg or want. instead appreciate..

Logicboy03: This is the most foolish thing I have ever read on Nairaland despite it being eloquently put.


In short, sick people should pray with gratitude for their sickness rather than healing?


tchew

lol wow so is this what you got from the post or what you thought i said? is like saying poor people should pray with gratitude for their poorness...

but since you didnt get what i wrote, in short i am saying, sick people should pray with gratitude for their healing-not the other way around

@oonan.. prayer is not just kneeling down and begging God for your daily bread-which is what you think it is...prayer is nothing more than a fervent statement of what is so... like i said no prayer-whaterver the form-goes unanswered. Every prayer—every thought, every statement, every feeling—is creative. To the degree that it is fervently held as truth, to that degree will it be made manifest..in your experience....

When people say a prayer has not been answered, what has actually happened is that the most fervently held thought, word, or feeling has become operative/answered.. couple that with the fact that most people do not really know how to "properly" pray- this is where the confusion lies..

most people incorrectly pray by asking/wanting instead of choosing or giving thanks.You will not have that for which you ask, nor can you have anything you want..You cannot have it, if you want it( it is that simple ).. This is because your very request of asking or wanting is a statement of lack.. anyone saying they want a thing only works to produce that precise experience—wanting—in their reality. if you pray wanting a car, ajob or wanting to be rich then you will experience that exact request-wanting(then you go around shouting prayer is useless, meanwhile the universe had granted your very request)

The correct prayer therefore is never a prayer of supplication, but a prayer of gratitude. when you give thanks you are affirming that, that which you choose is already there.( i know you are not a christian but in reference to jesus- this is why he always gave thanks in advance before every "miracle" )

ooman: It would be just great, if you could expatiate more on what faith and prayer is.

I maintain that work without faith in god is absolute success from experience as an atheist

you dont have to have faith in God or a deity to be successful in anything. you simply have to have faith..

ooman: you were probably banned

i doubt if that was the case.

ooman: faith without work is dead according to the bible,

well very true..and this is where most Christians and religious people i should say get it wrong...for instance sitting at home all day and praying incessantly for a job without any effort will not get you a job.. same way you are not going to get the woman of your dreams sitting at home daydreaming.

but work without faith is absolute success from experience,

this is not true..no work is actually really done without faith.. i had to actually laugh at the bolded..perhaps you should define what your understanding of faith..

so what exactly is the use of prayer if without work its a failure.

prayer and work actually go hand in hand..you just have no idea what prayer is unfortunately

prayer is for the weak, those who need a false sense of comfort and security.

this statement proves you have no idea what prayer is and yet you think it is useless

I haven't been able to log into nairaland for the past three days or so did anyone else experience this.

PRAYER ALWAYS WORKS- no one ever prayed and didn't get what they prayed for...what you asked is what you get.

not understanding how something works due to ignorance doesn't make it useless...

none of those "atrocities" were done by God.. all those acts were done by people-low level intelligent beings- and attributing it to God.. people did and still do all kinds of "evil" things in the name of God-doesn't mean God actually asked them to..

frosbel: God set the expectations right at the beginning , he told man the consequence of eating the tree of the knowledge of good and evil , and warned him to stay away.

Why warn Adam to exercise his free will in this matter ?

Also , there was a consequence which subsequent to Adam eating the fruit , resulted in the punishment.

In other words MAN chose his will over God's will.

you don't get it do you.. you failed to answer my question and just beating around the bush giving excuses ..

1. He set no such expectation god brother ...The very minute God sets an expectation is the very instant your freewill will be infringed upon- not what an all powerful being does....freewill should not come with expectations or condition .. an unconditional loving God does not set expectations in the first place.. if I command and expect you to do something and then reward / punish you based on the execution or failure of, of my expectations then, I have infringed on your freewill.. freewill does not come with commands and expectations.. neither does unconditional love..

2. Understand that consequences are not the same thing as punishment /condemnation /judgement /retribution... Consequences are just that. Consequences ..natural outcomes..consequences are effects not punishments or condemnation..A god or deity punishing or condemning his "creatures" for disobeying are not natural outcomes or consequences but an act of a low intelligent malevolent deity..

3. If God is all-knowing and unconditional loving God, then your will automatically becomes his will..so punishing you for exercising your will is not what an all intelligent loving God does..unless you want to call God a liar..

Her will is the ultimate, highest , grandest and best will for the greater good and as such will want or desire that you choose his will... If you choose God will you will know no suffering and only experience the highest love.. nevertheless not choosing his will does not mean he will punish you.. that's what humans do not what a God will do..

frosbel: But SATAN exercised his free will and rebelled against his creator, what makes MAN any different ?

Cmon @frosbel what is Satan to do with this...please just answer the question honestly with a clear conscience ..do you think Adam and eve should be punished for exercising their freewill? ... We will get to Satan( though there is no such being as satan the devil )

^^^^ of course every being has a freewill. That's without a doubt ...we can all agree on that. It's right up there with relativity as one of the greatest gifts that The Infinite Creator gave all beings/creatures/children/himself -

But let's go back to your point. So Adam and Eve have freewill and in exercising their freewill fail God's test. And you think and believe they should be punished for exercising their freewill .. is that your point god brother ?

[quote author=frosbel][/quote]you are asking someone to think but you are failing to do so..1. The issue is not the stealing or the fact that he did a "wrong".. the issue is that you think and believe he's got freewill and yet advocate for punishment...that's the problem most of you think how you act and behave is how the creator should/will act...

now applying it to God not only has the man so called freewill been violated, it makes God out to be a liar , a fraud and malevolent( why I keep saying religion makes a mockery of God)... punishing negates his freewill- also negate the all-powerful, unconditional loving and all-knowing nature of God... freewill should not be based on condition and neither should unconditional love.. even though you erroneously infer the role of a parent unto God..understand that he is not or acts like your parent.. unlike your parent Gods love is unconditional no matter what...

The very fact that Gods love is unconditional means that there is no such thing as punishment in his world.. he loves all the same no matter the " crime".. thats the truth that many of you have failed to accept because in your minds Gods promise sound so good to be true..humans think they are undeserving of such a promise..

@ frosbel ..wow are these really your arguments? And you are supposed to be one of the "top" defenders of your Christian faith on nairaland? Wow ..Did you really even understand the article you posted.. you seem to have no idea what freewill or omniscient or all-powerful Is. Or maybe you pretending

alfaman2: The bolded says it all.

what's your point .. what she can't be honest? You think being an atheist is better than being a Christian? You are just as lost as a Christian my friend

ATMC: answering your question will lead to argument and dt i'm not prepared for, basically cos i don't have much knowledge to stand you as i know little for now but if you have anything to say to me you might as well say it. I'm all ears

I don't really do arguments god sister.. I do discussions. And do see yourself as not having enough knowledge because you do.. what you lack is understanding. For instance most of you believe and rightly so that Gods love is unconditional and yet in one sentence say He knows his children? - as in the believers.. well what about the unbelievers ? What those are not his children as well? She loves unconditionally and yet has an all exclusive club? .

She loves unconditionally and yet has the need to punish those who disbelief? An omnipotent being actually has a lack? .. doesn't make any sense does it? See religion is a fallacy and makes a mockery of the infinite creator but because the masses are not thinking due to so called threat of hell, you believe everything they tell you without questioning these obvious contradictions ...

So if you want to discuss we will but I will not feed anything to you as I will be infringing on your freewill..