dayokanu: Doesnt it worry you that in the last 2 years no midfielder has been able to understand Torres?
6months ago you and coogar assured us that whenever Mata is played behind Torres his issues would be solved, that has been done and he has failed again
Initially you told us Lampard and other mechanical players were the problem that once technical players like Hazard, oscar Mata were bought, the Torres of Liverpool might be back. Till now everything has been done and still failed.
The best midfielders in Xavi, iniesta have been accused by you and coogar of holding on to the ball for too long that doesnt work with Torres.
So someone posting pictures of Hernandez means nothing. Ibime posted gifs of chances wasted by Torres lack of anticipation here.
If you are half intelligent you should see that hernandez getting those balls are 1 Based on the delivery, 2 based on his anticipation. Hernandez would never get those balls if he is working counter to the midfielders, MAZACAR centers the ball but Torres is running to the wings, And you now end up blaming the midfielder?
One thing we see here is Mata, Hazard and oscar have been successful with other players in the last 2 years, Torres hasn't been successful with any particular player / set of midfielders in the last 2 years.
Now deploy your senses and tell us who the problem is with?
nateevs: On the Torres argument, Coogar endeavours always, to make granular as well as pictorial and interactive analysis where possible. The default state of an intelligent mind is to review his analysis and discuss if they are right or wrong. Instead, it is met by dogmatic, beer-parlour like counter-arguments like "sebi he was bought for £50m", "before it was Malouda and Lampard" and sometimes you just wonder what the point is. You cannot help but conclude, each time Coogar makes a case, he makes sense.
I have not seen anything on a consistent basis from the anti-Torres campaign that engages the mind on a intellectual level. Like Coogar states forever, if Hernandez was a Chelsea player, he won't come close to his tally for United.
"When a player leaves a club, you do not normally see a manager speak so glowingly about them.
Usually they would say it is time for them to leave, it was the right move for both parties.
There is very rarely such big transfers between champions to clubs that are challenging them and it is a strange move.
"And I have no doubt that he has not sanctioned that move, he is not happy with it and ultimately he is uncomfortable with it. "I have to say that it is a strange move, it really is, to sell to one of your main rivals. Sometimes transfers can get forced through. Maybe he was behind the scenes, but it did not seem he was publicly."
- Neville on Matic move to Manyoo
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I wanted to gulp down a bottle of whiskey the day this move happened, I really wanted to.
hensben: Ake is not English. You need English players in your team if you don't want the wrath of Ref in a game. Sir Alex used this strategy to dorminate English league.
Are you okay bro?
You just went from Ake doesn't qualify as homegrown to Ake is not English, English wins matches, all within seconds.
Homegrown rule doesn't care about your Nationality. You just have to be registered with an FA team for three seasons prior to your 21st birthday.
Speaking of winning with English talents, mind explaining why Bournemouth who with 13 different Englishmen are yet to qualify for Europe?
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Nihilstjnr: Decent amount for a decent player. This dude can do a decent job in almost all positions across the pitch.Hes the attacking version of John Oshea
Arsenal may be foolish to let him go.
I will have this ninja ahead of many folks whose names are being bandied around here. Ox puts the u in utility.
Though Madrid didn't play with real urgency, but Matic tried today.
Maybe this was what he needed to get back to form. A Move away from the bridge.
If he keeps this form, he will punish teams in the EPL.
Matic was never out of form, Kante simply stole the show in our midfield.
The Serbian thrives when placed at the heart of the team and asked to hold everything together, that's when his inner beast is released. 2013/14 and 2014/15 seasons comes to mind.
We knew this fact hence we were against the Manyoo move.
airmark: 70m strikers are not found everywhere, so i can pardon cheap strikers missing such. Is it not here people said belotti was too much for 90m? If morata is 70m, based on quality, belotti should be 140m.
This is ridiculous. You make it look as if ones price tag makes them become supernatural.
How many players out there truly represent their quotation in the transfer market?
Neymar who moved for 200milla won't miss sitters again because he is valued at 200milla?
No! Messi whose is valued around 500milla should never miss penalties because he is valued at 500milla?
Oga don't let these price tags excuse you all from the use of logic. Crucify Morata when he starts missing sitters and clear chances not tight angle misses.
CapitalCee: What are you saying sef, Lukaku has been trolled heavily here about his first touch and bla bla bla. He also has been castigated for scoring against small teams and going missing against the big teams, he scored against world and back to back European champions and you are still not satisfied! What do you want him to do for Christ sake?
Just to be humble, that's all we are asking him to do.