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PVision2020:
Lol.... The occupation of a tribe or nation can only be ascertained by the influence they left behind e. g Architecture, Artifacts, Culture, etc and not some historical fables and forklores passed from generations to generation.
You don't need to argue about the influence of bini in Onitsha or Eko, it's influence is evident even from the palace of the Obi of Onitsha and the Oba of Eko, you'll know there's definitely an interaction with the bini. But NONE of such influence can be felt in Yoruba land, rather the influence of Yoruba on Benin is too enormous to be overlooked.
You need a crash course on Anthropology.

The language of the royal court was also Yoruba until the practice was stopped, another historical fact.

prolog31:
Wow, what proof do I need ? I should look at internet archives ? Wow. You are really dumb. And if I don't accept your claim without your providing of proof, I should disprove it ?

Are you so dumb that you need to curse to make your point? You appear really dumb. Prove me wrong or scram, I'm not fazed a bit by your grandstanding.

prolog31:
In a logical world this who make claims are supposed to prove their claims rather than to expect the person to whom they told their claim to do the hard work of disproving them. I could just as easily say that the own of it's head used to be buried in Benin city and then ask you to discover me.

Basically you have no evidence other than your ego to tell us the heads of dead Oba of Benin were not buried in Ife. I even told you the location in Ife. Perhaps you can go there and dig.

prolog31:
So you are not familiar with the word "proof" ? You said yourself that your claims can be proven, you even added that your claims took place in the 1940's and that there are genuin documents which prove your claims, now you seem to be Chanyeol your story and saying all you need to do is dig up the heads of persons and that is proof enough ? � joke of the century.

What proof do you need then? A simple search of historical archives on the internet will tell you what I just said, I didn't make it up.
If you insist this is not true then the onus is on you to tell us why.

prolog31:
which one ?You are perhaps the boldest Yoruba liar or the most stupid. When your elders tell these lies, they at least pretend the claim events happened before anybody who could write visited the region. But you, you must have missed the Yoruba revisionism memo.

slowpoke is angry and cursing already when faced with facts.
Until the 40s heads of dead Oba of Benin were buried in Ife, prove this is a lie.
Confront me with your facts and this matter will be settled.

prolog31:
Now that you have made your statement, please provide proof to back it.

Prove like going there to dig up one head and show it to you? Even if I did that you will still say the head could have been anybody's.

prolog31:
So according to you, the head of an Oba of Benin was buried in ife in the 1940's ?

This is according to documented historical facts. The heads of all dead Oba of Benin were buried in Ife until 1940s.

prolog31:
Actually, no head of no Obama was ever buried in Ife. It is nit in Edo culture to cut off the head if the Dead. You Yoruba need to stop making these kinds of stuff up. And listen to yourself claiming you can prove it and deviating to focus on "why". Why do you guys lie all the time ? It is like the national Yoruba sport.

They are buried at a place called "Orun Oba Ado" in Ife. The practice lasted as recently as 1940s. People born in the 40s are still living.

prolog31:
What I hate when talking to Yoruba is you guys debate on dogmas. You never care to provide proof for your claims. For your information, the European visitors who visited Benin kingdom in the middle ages were also casted in Benin bronze, so were they also sent to ife and duplicated ? Also several Benin warriors and queens were casted in Benin bronze, so ife must have been very busy doing all the hard work of duplicating people.... Oh did I forget to mention that the Europeans witnessed the Benin guild and even patronised it ? So Yoruba why all the lies and claiming of an other people's heritage ? Yours is in Brazil, go and claim that, your chiefs do do ib the regular !

1940s is so recent, we are not talking about what happened a thousand years ago now. There's no dogma involved here, it is a verifiable argument that the heads of dead Oba of Benin were buried in Ife and a replica of the head casted in Ife were sent back to Benin.
You can try and find out or you argued blindly and believe whatever you want to believe.

prolog31:
Most Yoruba are very sensitive about Benin empire and will never admit the truth no matter how obvious it is. Instead the Yoruba would use fictional characters such as oduduwa and oranmiyan to "prove" their points while rejecting logically and factually obtained statements.

Whay you can prove is the fact that the heads of dead Oba of Benin were buried in Ife. The question then is why?

prolog31:
oranmiyan never existed. Oduduwa, oranmiyan, ogiso... These are all fables. Grow up kid.

According to the under the bridge university you attended?
As recently as 1940s the heads of dead Oba of Benin was buried in Ife.

prolog31:
Those who keep saying ife is older than Benin city are liars. Indeed think about this: Benin city was burnt down and destroyed by cannon fire and explosives in 1897. Ife was not. Yet there is no indigenous architecture in ife. It is all colonial or post colonial constructs. Have you seen a picture of Oba palace before it was destroyed by the British ? It was as big as an entire town. Benin city was built up and served as the capital of an empire (Benin empire). The relics of Benin city are in every western European country's national museum and in north america. The queen of England has her own collection of objects coming from Oba palace, so did Rockefeller...You guys should stop being so sentimental about the passed of Benin. Just accept facts and move on with your lives. Benin empire was the superpower of the region, deal with it!

And there are no relics from Ife in western museums? A repica of every dead Oba of Benin was casted in Ife and sent back to Benin. The real heads were buried in Ife.

Iamgrey5:
No! the oba of Lagos is believed to be a direct descendant of Oba of Benin, unlike other Yoruba kings

However, the plain truth is that the current oba of Lagos is not entirely a direct descendant of oba of bini. it is believed he is a mixture of an Ijesha man called Alagba and a descendant of Oba of bini.

More importantly, the oba of lagos has no land in lagos, the land on the island belongs to a Yoruba sub group known as the Awori (the red cap chiefs) E.g.

The Oba oniru

The Oba Elegushi

The Oni Koyi of ikoyi

etc.

Even if the current Oba of Lagos is a direct descendant of Oba of Benin, Oba of Benin himself is a descendant of Oranmiyan, an Ife prince and the first Alaafin of Oyo.

Deborachi:
Wife without bride price.
Such disrespect

Assurance nko? Maybe they married secretly, he said "my wife"

Jiang:
Oil tycoon

Basically free money, so why not spend it anyhow.

I just wonder why the long neck Amazon dude, the Facebook dude, the glo dude & dangote don't buy these flashy cars, is it that they can't afford it or they just know how hard is it to make money

Who told you they don't buy these cars? They buy far more expensive things, they don't always flaunt them. Yachts, jets etc.

chiedu7:
Nigeria fears this man oh!

The man said he simply wants out, Nigeria wants to arrest him for wanting out.

You cannot want out of a country you don't belong to in the first place. If he wants out he can start from whatever part of England he came from.

Unlimitk:
Yea u are very right

U may go to a street with many Yoruba billionaires,and u will never know they exist

They hardly talk or appear in public

Look at mike adenuga and compare him to other billionaires

Look at seun osewa and that dumbo Linda ikeji

U will c Yorubas are very docile

That is a virtue worthy of embracing. Being loud is not cool.

Unlimitk:
This are people with cash that don't make noise up and down

This guy right here is so rich,he can buy some ppl villages and generations

My ppl emptry barrels make the loudest noise

One thing I like about some really wealthy Yorubas. Some are so obscure you wouldn't know they are there.

limeta:
UK will not extradite no body to a shit hole , lawless zoo

One day there will be a knock on his door, and he will shout "who is that " ? The answer will be an acronym; INTERPOL
Before he can say IPOB he will be eating akpu and ofe nsala at Louis Edet house, Abuja.

highcollide:
What about your oba? Does he not represent the yorubas in lagos?


Were you lots not cheering him when he made that statement?

The Oba is solely responsible for what he says. This is not 1819, Obas don't direct anyone to do anything anymore.

Herdsmen:
Not all Yorubas... not generalising...but more than 89% are tribalist..

Ok, I will like to get the full report on the census you conducted on this matter.

highcollide:
Stop running away from the question Yoruba man. Why did your people attack my people? Why did your oba threaten to drown my people?



Did you attack my people out of love?

I didn't see any Yoruba attack on ibos. A fight between one Ngozi and Abike does not translate to a fight between Yoruba and Igbo as far as I am concerned.

She is right. "Se mo kola ni" is a dumb thing to say.

highcollide:
Don't play the innocent one... We have thrown banners at each other for years. But my people have don't nothing to your people in the real world. Why did you threaten my people in Yorubaland?


Why did your oba threaten to drown my people?


Why did mc oluomo and his boys attack my people?

This are the things your people have done to my people in the real world.



You people are very wicked.

You need to search your own conscience for answers. Ibos are not the only ethnic group living in Yorubaland and none of the others are antagonistic to Yorubas except ibos.
Mind you, I am not asking you not to hate. I'm just saying it as it is.

Herdsmen:
A lecture in oau once ask me..what are my doing in oau..why don't I go to university of nsukka..
Western lectures hardly call it university of Nigeria..
Why?
I had so many ugly tribal experience back in uni Ife..now oau.

Bro una hatred for igbos is so loud that any igboman or southerners can hear it right from showboy..ore.

That's Yoruba gate way..


Funny enough igbos don't care.. spend 15years in west..never speak Yoruba for any reason..but I understand even ijebus..but to speak..rather be a dummy.

You only need to read through the posts on the internet to see why Yorubas might act negatively towards you. The world really is like a mirror, it will reflect back what you project to it.

highcollide:
No Yorubaman has been attacked by igbos in Igboland. Why did your thug brothers obstruct my people from exercising their right to vote their preferred candidates in the last election in lagos?

Even if this is true, how did one incident translate to Yoruba hating Igbo?
A decade before this election on this same Nairaland there were ibos who made abusing Yorubas their daily job on Nairaland. How do you explain that?

thatigboman:
see this MURIC terrorist tout

Doofus.

Herdsmen:
Since they assume power .. they've made it pronounced..and feel the only way to retain that power is to spread igbo hatred..

Ignorantly..the hate spread have backfired..now everyone knows how hate fill they are.

They abuse PDP and call it igbo party.. believing the north will join APC in Toto..called Atiku biafra president..

Now what's happening to PDp..

Governorship in every region..
Even dia region is not spared..the south south the hope to bribe by sacrificing igbos has woken..w no work

How they shown dia self to the word..

See innoson case... this guys deride innoson abuse him..becos say he be igbos..but igbos stood by him..they try to portray him to the international community as a crook...use government influence to shut him down.to day na GTB big pass 8billion be the story..

Forget afonjas

I met them first hand in oau..

All of them..both the pastor's.. lectures.. professor.. Don's...

They all hate igbos...na just say Dem dey use style cover up..

I pity our ladies wey marry them.. without understanding their language..

Afonjas hate igbo no be today news...

Good thing..igbo man no send

We hate you so much and there's no record of Yorubas doing anything negative to Ibo interests in Yorubaland?
We don't hate anyone, that is why all Nigerians are welcomed with open arms everywhere in Yorubaland.

oglalasioux:
No history can back your idea up. Northern Africa has always been Arab. Until 2000 years ago, the only black people known in the world were Ethiopians.

All Arabs migrated to Africa.

thatigboman:
yoruba Muslim, do u know him?

Brainless dolt, why don't you go out and attack Muslims and Yorubas or Yorubas who are Muslims because you hate them.
I have no doubt someone gave birth to you standing up.

LecciGucci:
My brother I'm not igbo or yoruba too, but I agree with u serious, all over social media, facebook twitter and instagram. Their hatred for Igbo is too much and sometimes it makes me sick.
I saw one post on instagram the other day and the poster ne is not igbo..
All of a sudden some Yoruba guys jumped on and start shouting igbo this, igbo that on the comments..
I had to jump in and ask them what has igbo got to do with this pls..?
And they started insulting me

Have you seen what the OP said about ibos right here on Nairaland?
How are you sure the "Yoruba guys" are not chameleons like Excaperx who hide under different identities to insult different groups?
In another post he claimed to be Yoruba!