₦airaland Forum

emmanuelex1:
Gowon is northerner being controlled by Hausas. Come to think of it, has any yorubas man be brave enough to conduct a coup talk more of leading WAR?

Why is coup making a badge of honor? This is like asking why are Yorubas not in Malaysian death row for drug smuggling.
Do you have the equivalence of Victor Banjo or Adekunle Fajuyi or even Benjamin Adekunle?

AutoReportNG:
Please give a data or statistics to back this up. I am saying you are wrong, just a data or proof will be good, you know we learn daily

He doesn't have any.

makky555:
it won't surprise me

Coming from a conspicuously dirty and ugly looking chick.
The hair, the dirty makeup. Shior.

Ayiibobo:
ain't that how we gutted your old folks in the civil war

Those who were gutted are still reeling in pain till today, and they "ain't" Yoruba.

emmanuelex1:
Yoruba lead which war?, What of Gowon?, Please I can accept yoruba supported the war but not lead. Hausas led the war. That is why till date The NORTH OWNS NIGERIA. Can you imagine if Hausa(true war leaders) merge with Igbos to fight youbas? Mehn that wil be amagidon for Yorubas

Technically, Gowon (not an Hausa man)led the war as the commander in chief. 3MCDO took it from there. We all own Nigeria, only people who are mentally and physically defeated parrot such nonsense as the north own Nigeria.

UyiIredia:
Yoruba are cowards. End of. The time Falae was kidnapped they retaliated burning and harassing Fulani folks. Now what? Empty chest beating. And nothing will happen.

If unfortunately, Falae is killed by Fulani's we'll be here when his townspeople are crying Egba mi o! And nothing will happen.

Of course, we are still waiting for what became of this particular case where people were actually killed.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2016/02/fulani-herdsmen-invade-enugu-community-kill-two-19-missing/amp/

The "brave" people are more concerned about Yoruba lives than their own.

makky555:
Wrong... You mine skulls of your brothers for juju. Simpu!

I have pictures from 1967, do you want them? Plenty of skulls, more than you can count.

lyricalz:
can Yoruba fight the Fulanis? lazy afonja pple, with mouth only.

We have fought Fulani and we have fought ibos. Came out victorious on both and if necessary we will do it again.

makky555:
Yea... And I'll tell you how. By acting as slaves to not just the then colonial masters but to the Hausa /Fulani maggots who know nothing else than butcher their fellow human being little wonder why Yorubas are known for skull minning. Learn from your master theory

Fulani herdsmen are Sick bastards!!!

Yes, we will mine the skulls of all our enemies and that is what they deserve if they succeed in provoking a war. History is our witness.

stanluiz:
If he is your hero. Why didn't he help you people to recover Ilorin from your Fulani masters.

Why couldn't you stop him from ravaging and taking your lands? Your leaders wet their pants at the mention of his name.

makky555:
I modified it for better comprehension

Really? Ugly face, ugly reasoning.

Thinking and strategic planning by "Afonja cowards"
On a mission to take the territory of some brave village people.

makky555:
Lol... Wow... Discovery

Oga shift abet...

Say what?

makky555:
Doesn't change the fact that you guys are cowards

The coward who keep beating you at every game and on the real battlefield.

Target practice by an "Afonja coward"

simeotexy:
afonja coward. #YAK ABA#

Can you identify him? When you are taught a bitter lesson it may take several generations to get over it.

olajizz01:
Are u talking of Yorubas who led Biafra war and sent millions of your people to early grave.No thank to Benjamen Adekunle aka the black scorpion who stung u animals to ur early grave and Obasanjo who brought u to ur kneel in your fantasied capital(Enugu).Let me stop here,few words are enough for animal like u.

Don't mind him. Even a Yoruba, Victor Banjo had to lead the only pitiful offensive carried out by the biafrans.

izaray:
Which war is he talking about even Is it because ur farm was burnt down, do you ever wonder what happened to the families of those that were killed by the same Fulani herdsmen?

So, in your infinite wisdom Yorubas should wait like sitting ducks and let the same thing happen in their land?

MahatmaGhandi:
You cannot mention modern day Yoruba and war in same sentence. It is a past-present-future impossible tense.

That reminds me the black scorpion. You are completely right, while Iboland was on fire, people in Yorubaland hardly knew a war was raging on. We would rather it to be on the enemy's territory.

Reno looking like an ancient barbershop poster.

DerideGull:
Yari.ba majorly contributed to the unstructured Nigeria. Nigeria is dysfunctional today because Yari.ba played a cowardly hand in 1966. I guess this demeanor could not be unrelated to the fact that most Yari.ba people were under certain emirates.

Nigeria is dysfunctional because ibos could not see beyond their noses. They tried to use violence to get what they could have gotten with the stroke of a pen.
Act first and think later.

nextstep:
Two things:

1. What does "give me what I want or else..." mean? If the Federal Government refuses to restructure, didn't the article mention using all means to achieve its aim? Let's not play naiive... violence is implied. Even a child understand what this threat means... an ass wuppin.

2. Let's be serious. The Federal Government has superior firepower, and when the chips are down, the UN respects firepower much more than it respects documents and declarations (as history has shown). In other words, if Oduduwa is serious, he should arm himself very very very well.

The Federation is buckling under the weight of injustices across the country. The people who love the country are those asking to make it a more just and peaceful federation. If you doubt me just read the newspaper headlines today.

Sprumbabafather:
Did you or your people remember people had a life and could die when you are backing the wrong horse in 2015?

We screamed, we shouted ourselves hoarse, we tried everything to make you see reason but you were fixated like a hypnotised person on the greed of being the VP.

Now after a wrecked economy, high fuel prices, hopelessness and uncountable murders of innocent people, you guys are trying to pull a fast one on us by shouting restructuring?

Whoever trusts your people will be betrayed.

The damage done by Jonathan will take years to fix. Don't be too narrow minded, this is beyond Jonathan and Buhari.
If you like sit on the fence as usual, paralyzed by fear of Yoruba playing a fast one on you.

nextstep:
I can understand and appreciate this. But if state governors looked inwards and capitalized on their unique strengths, they won't need to go hand in cap, and over decades, can assert more and more of their own independence and authority (which is really only possible with growing economic strength). This would actually be much more productive than the calls for restructuring which - by itself - won't put food in peoples stomachs, or suddenly result in great healthcare.

You mentioned the existing constitution was carefully negotiated by the federating units... including the ones clamoring for break away. Weren't they the same who agreed to the Constitutions, and to be bound by them?

When IPOB was doing its own nonsense last year, I said the same thing... Igboland would be much better served focusing on improving economic conditions, and grooming its children so they become part of the ruling elite. As an example: an Igbo child is more likely to go into trade than to go into government administration. Conversely, you'll find a lot of Hausa/Fulani children going into the civil service as recruits/clerks/porters/guard/cleaners. As the years go by and promotions are made, the core of leaders in the civil service will consist mostly of people in the civil service (i.e. Hausa).

Yes, there is solid evidence of Northerisation agenda, as made explicit by Sir Ahmadu Bello (who I respect for his position and efforts towards his people, yet am sincerely disappointed in his positions towards people like me not from the North), and being continued till this day under Buhari.

Nevertheless, I think we have made great progress away from the mindset of people born before Independence. I think we owe it to future generations of Nigerians to continue to seek more fruitful ways of nation building together, rather than seeking the exit at every opportunity, in spite of whether we were thrown together in a marriage of convenience or not.

I meant the independence constitution, not the current one. The current one was written by the military.

konoplyanka:
Lol. Secede where?

There was never a need to.

How come a PHD holder led ibos to reject a secession clause in the constitution! Papa Awo saw what could happen. Perhaps they shouldn't have called it a secession clause but a "break of agreement clause" which states that any undemocratic change in the Constitution will render it null and void.

Sprumbabafather:
We are watching, in the next 10 years I will remember this newspaper advert and laugh with it. I will remember the most toothless people in Africa who are all steam and no action.

Copy and save it for posterity. Nigeria in 10 years will be different from Nigeria of today.
We don't beat our chests for nothing like some folks.

Sprumbabafather:
Buharri is a genius, that is why we want him to continue till 2089

sai baba

The issues at hand is beyond individuals. This is not about Buhari or Jonathan. We are talking about the lives of millions of people here.

zendy:
Lol

There are only two ways of leaving Nigeria:

You either become a secessionist like Ojukwu, declare your independence and fight for it no matter the consequence.

Or

You become an Nnamdi Kanu and take up agitation and challenge the powers that be to give you a referendum


The stuff of character needed to be either Ojukwu or Kanu is rarely found amongs Yorubas. This makes any talk of leaving Nigeria by them laughable. It takes more than mere talk to leave Nigeria

I don't think it is rare at all in the Yoruba nation. We achieve whatever we set our minds to achieve. History will bear us witness on that. If we decide to leave Nigeria, be rest assured Nigeria is finished. We are not ibos.

Sprumbabafather:
And Jonathan proposed some good laws in 2014 and what did you do?

Vote him out. Are you Ok?

Jonathan was a dunce. What laws are you talking about?

nextstep:
I've read it.

- "The Yoruba people are irrevocably commited to a fundamental structuring".[/I]
OK... why? I say economic hardship

[i]- "inaliable right to self-determination guaranteed by the United Nations Charter".[/I]
No country is obligated to recognize anything, unless it serves their own interest. Leave charter alone.

[i]- "cannot be carried out under the present National Assembly... does not recognize the will of We the People".
Fine. You are welcome to challenge the sovereign with violence (which is its right to resort to, as mandated by its Constitution). Good luck. History has shown that the UN (I really mean the Security Council) only recognizes the side with superior firepower, and many millions are displaced/killed/starved while UN countries make money selling arms, planes, and relief supplies.

I've no problem with restructuring, and I will gladly apply for visa if Oduduwa Republic becomes a strong, prosperous, sovereign nation.

I'm not sure I read it anywhere in the post where violence was mentioned. There you go again being dishonest.
If Yoruba no longer wish to be part of the federation which is not what the advert is saying then I challenge you to come and stop them with your "superior firepower"

nextstep:
OK, I must be mistaken (and I'm not trying to be cheeky).

Please quote the article and make plain its main thrust. If people were gainfully employed with good jobs, schools, hospitals, etc. do you think this advert would make any sense? Intellectuals just get together and demand restructuring because everything is going well? Consider the following:

"Everyone is eating well and is healthy, so let's restructure for some other undisclosed reason" <- this one doesn't make much sense.

"Everyone is suffering, there are no jobs, so let's restructure" <- this one makes more sense, which leads me to my conclusion.

Instead of just stating that unemployment is not the main thrust, please put forward a plausible reason for the advert. I've given you my plausible reasons for my conclusion.

Basically the constitution we are operating is not a federal constitution. Nigeria became an independent country and got a carefully negotiated constitution agreed to by all the federating units.
What we have now is not working for anyone, except maybe a few who now have some advantages as a result of the skewed constitution.
States for example should not be going to Abuja every cap in hand like beggers.
There are several other issues affecting states which Abuja should have no business dealing with.