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jahsharon:
He should along include Lagos since Flattinos developed Lagos. He should not forget to include Bornu and Yobe states so that Boko Haram will come and ask HM to describe his father's compound.

You're so so childish.

Magicians:
You pathetic lot make me LAFTA.
Dasuki was locked up close to 5 years.
Sowore close to a year n it is only after Buhari willingly release them that your father of a coward can be gallivanting that the country will not be allowed to be reduce to a jungle.

Make I just de look your foolishness rolled up in amazing madness.

Bro, so why did Fg suddenly release Dasuki and Sowore?
I mean,why the sudden compliance to court orders?
Care to tell us,beyond what AGF said?

yarimo:
the man who saw tomorrow and the man who ran away

Not funny.

Sincerely, Abia state has become an embarrassment among other states in the South East.
I totally blame the residents ( and indigenes) for that.
They have consistently refused to elect people they know quite well will develop the state. It's like they generally prefer redundancy and underperformance due to their innate corrupt nature. Just look at Ebonyi state - a young state - practically over taking Abia in development.
It's really a big shame.

fkj950ax:
It's not open and shut like you stated it here.
The petition will be based on a prior active investigation which gives it merit. I never stated election eve as part of my petition. The petition will be based on the comments by BAT himself after the vans left his home and financial laws in Nigeria

I assure you the case has no merit.
There's no way you can petition the court to compel a financial institution to reveal the content of someone's belonging,even if it contained money; except if there's a prior like you stated above but with regards that another entity's funds were missing,or that there was anyother illegal activity involving the accused person that could be linked to the content of the belonging.
In any of the probable scenarios I painted above,Tinubu has not been found wanting for it.
It is that simple.
What if it was just a polythene bag that was seen been carried into Tinubu's compound, would you have called for his investigation?
Mind you,a polythene bag can accommodate enough hard currencies capable of influencing an election.
So what makes this case peculiar?
Is it because it was a bullion van?
Or because it's Tinubu?

fkj950ax:
If I petition the Courts to subpeano Bankers WareHouse to declare the contents of it's vehicles who made a trip to Bourdilon on that date, then I can trump your argument above.

PS: I am neither pro or anti Jagaban. All I want is a country that gives opportunity to all equally.

If you petition the court concerning that,the court would most definitely throw away your case irrelevance, lack of merit or lack of probable cause. It's that simple.
Ask yourself this: if I see you coming from the direction of a bank with a bag that contains something I don't know on an election eve,and I petition the court to compel a bank to declare the content of the bag, what do you think the court will do?
There you have it.

I have argued before that Tinubu has absolutely no case to answer.
EFCC,DSS or whatever don't even need to investigate him.
It's not against any law of the land to bring in bullion vans into your compound on the eve of an election.
The contents of the van were not made public for people to see; so we can only speculate.
What if it was only tissue papers that were in the van?
Going by the logic that he should be investigated, if you carried any wrapped bag during that election period, then you should also be investigated. Who knows,maybe you were laundering money to sabotage the election.

OP, it's noble that you're speaking out for those people, but you should understand that every country makes her own laws which generally should target the overall good of the citizens.
If the Chinese state has taught it wise to reduce the proliferation of some religious groups, then so be it. Other countries that don't take such hard stance, how's it fairing for them?

celeiyke:
Ugwuanyi is the best. Those saying Umahi should list his rural projects. Umahi is like Lagos governors they choose the prominent places to work then use media to keep hailing them

Taking all indices into consideration, Umahi has outperformed Ugwuanyi.
There are street lights in almost all parts of Ebonyi state, both rural and urban; almost all the roads are tarred; he's building ring road that connects all the major parts of Ebonyi state for ease of movement and decongestion; there's an ongoing fertilizer and agrochemical factory; he's building an airport; a stadium; several mega standard malls and relaxation centres; he has almost turned Uburu to a standard city with his door to door road construction and the new medical school there; he has boosted agriculture with several rural-based programs.
All these are not just on paper;but can be observed with just a leisurely visit to Ebonyi state.

Kenneth4u205:
I would have gone for umahi of ebonyi state ,but he's hausa fulani puppet.the only Governor that has the interest of igbo development at heart is that of abia state ,but he failed in area of salary.summary is that they are all failure.

You don't know what you're saying.
How's Umahi Fulani's puppet?
Have you ever being to Ebonyi state,recently?
Dude,Umahi is a very smart governor. He knows that for maximum positive impact in Ebonyi state, he has to reasonably work with the Fg.
This man Umahi has performed wonders in Ebonyi state. It's almost unheard of in the history of Nigeria. A visit to Ebonyi state will give you the right perspective.

Bazamfare:
Sharap!!! Delusional nyamuri flat.head! You guys always find a way to tribalise an issue, are you the only ones with an accomplishment in Nigeria!!

You will never see northerners tribalising anything related to Dangote, or Yoruba regarding Entertainment, Lagos, Industries etc..but one small thing and y'all be shouting "Igbo amaka"

You bastards are so insecured and suffering from inferiority complex that u have to project everything through the prism of ethnicity!!!

Change ur mentality and do away with ur delusion of gradaeur!!

You have issues dude. Very serious issues.

This is lovely. It looks very tidy,mature and rugged.
I love this.

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Kennyswagzz:
i don't live in SW you fool..
Go drink some sniper.. Ewu

You're nothing but a stark illiterate liar.
You reside in Oshogbo.
A cursory glance at your hate-filled posts all over the forum gives away your background.
By the way,I thought I warned you never to quote me again. I don't want my handle to be messed up with your crassness please.

Kennyswagzz:
shut up idiot.. I have never seen any yoruba bearing gidado... all this ones are Facebook names..
Fake ones

How would you see any Yoruba bearing Gidado when you've never traveled out of Oshogbo.
From the way you even sound,one can easily bet that you're a stark illiterate.
Don't quote me again please till you get some education and do your NYSC.

Anambralstson:
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Bro,why are you wasting your time with that frustrated bra.t?
Even if a Yoruba guy bearing Gidado slaps him in the face with his birth certificate, his hatred for anything Igbo would never let him admit the truth.
Such despic.able being!

Kennyswagzz:
there is nothing disrespectful that is why you guys are hated in Ghana, south africa, india, china, malaysia, singapore, thajland, indonesia, all over the world

You're just a pained frustrated bra.t filled with hatred for a successful tribe.
The Igbos you so hate will keep on buying up your ancestral land and properties - and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.

Perkins2018:
Ipob has destroyed every goodwill you guys might enjoy in Yoruba land. Yorubas used to love strangers even more than indigenes. How do you think there are millions of igbos in our land if we were not welcoming? My grandma gave no less than 5 Igbo people land free of charge. But you guys are ingrates born to hate.

You're one of the dumbest ignoramuses on this forum.
Don't travel and get exposure, sit in your hut and be typing bullsh.t.

ebuk4real:


Mockery of APC government.

Even with video evidence, he's free. Kalu, without video, is found guilty. Seems this corruption is located ONLY in the south.

Welcome to APC: the more you look, the less you see

I don't know why I chose to quote only you.
Nigerians are highly disappointing.
So majority of the nairalanders who read the OP didn't understand it - including you.

Kindly go through the post again and note that the judge dismissed the case for LACK OF EVIDENCE SHOWING THAT THE EFCC HAS THE VIDEO AND HAS CARRIED OUT FORENSIC ANALYSIS ON IT,not for lack of evidence that Ganduje was actually the one in the said video committing the crime.

Hoephase:
I am not saying he has any case to answer but giving the sensitivity of the issue the government needs to clear the air on that by conducting an independent inquiry on the contents of that bullion van and what the content was for and what it was used for.

You would agreed with me that if that bullion van was found in the premises of PDP bigwig on the said day FG would hiden under the guise of national security to unravel the content of that van?

I am not affiliated to any party because both PDP and APC have been giving it to Nigerians since day one am just trying to have a civil conversation.

Good. I appreciate your civility towards this issue.
Now your second statement isn't very accurate.
If it was PDP and the government decided to investigate, they would merely be pandering, and no relevant court in this country would give them a conviction. That is in fact,why it would seem EFCC OR DSS have not so far gained a lot of victories in their prosecutions during this administration. Maybe,just maybe,they've been pandering by playing subtle partisan politics.
Don't forget that most convictions from court by this government have been against mostly APC members.
Ask yourself these: did Tinubu break any law in Nigeria? No.
Can the responsible government agencies investigate Tinubu if a prima facie case is established against him? Yes.
But is it likely they would investigate him given the myriads of other more established cases before the EFCC or DSS? No.
There you go bro.

referandum:
Sorry Sir, but you dont understand what Nigerians are saying.He shouldn't sit down and clap for him (personally I did not support it) he has been arrested and charged to court, therefore let the court do their work, STOP INTERFERRING, we are in a democratic era not millitary, If he wants to supecced the authority of the court, then he's a dictactor and we therefore in a millitary style regime ruled by Maj gen Buhari.

Stop interfering how?
Sentimental Nigerians protested Sowore's arrest at the first instance. Some even maintained that Sowore should be released unconditionally.
There's already an inquiry into the actions of DSS regarding Sowore's case. So what else do you want?

For me,Sowore's case is an open and shut one.
No government in the world will tolerate such open declaration of over throwing a legitimate government and actually taking steps to carry it out.
He's best defence now is to try to convince the court that he didn't actually mean revolution, as in,over throwing the government,and perhaps, hope for soft landing by interference from from foreign entities. Even at that,he who comes to equity must do so with clean hands. And once someone has played into the hands of the government, it's usually difficult to extricate oneself; because there are other several charges that can be levelled against him that can keep him in detention until everyone is fed up.
Let me add this: why do you think some oppositions remained calm during the 16 years of PDP (mis)rulership?
They're not dumb.
They were just bidding there time,avoiding costly mistakes and hoping for the right time to act.
mcquin should see this topic.

mcquin:
Little wonder people insult Buhari supporters, but I try to be civil in my arguments.

Are you not aware it is a crime to move huge amounts of money in cash?

Are you not aware sharing money for elections is vote buying and is all shades of wrong?

It is not a crime to move huge amounts of money in cash in Nigeria by an individual or company if it is duly registered by the relevant bodies.
How did you know that the money was distributed for vote buying,that's playing along with you that it was indeed money that was in the van?
This is exactly why I told you Tinubu's case is dicey. It would be extremely difficult for any agency in the world to obtain a conviction against him based on the issue.
Tinubu is not your average politician. I personally consider him as one of the smartest politicians in the world today.
Hate him or love him,he's been able to build an enviable political empire by mere smartness.

mcquin:
You no serious. What is their work before? Are they not suppose to undergo "huge work" in establishing their cases. Oh in investigating PDP members "huge work's is not undergone, it is in calling Tinubu for questioning that requires huge work?
Kini big deal investigating Tinubu's accounts and that of his companies to know if a huge amount of money was removed on an election eve. It won't take Buhari a thing to investigate Tinubu if he were in the opposition. Infact the Buhari we know will first arrest Tinubu and begin to investigate him while he is in jail. Has that not been the modus operandi of this government? From there they begin to amend his charge.

If PDP should come on board tomorrow, investigating Tinubu won't be a thing.

So what if Tinubu is investigated and found to have withdrawn his own personal money and shared to people on the eve of an election, what would now happen?

mcquin:
How many notable lawyers called for the arrest of Sowore before his arrest? Go on YouTube and see how many persons have called for investigation into the "bullion van" saga.

And please check the link https://www.independent.ng/bullion-vans-nigerians-have-right-to-demand-demand-tinubus-investigation-ozekhome/

Kindly go through the link you posted. Ozekhome was saying that Nigerians have a right to demand that Tinubu should be investigated; he wasn't calling for his arrest.
Nobody is arguing whether Nigerians have the right or not.
In fact,Ozekhome said categorically that he wasn't saying that Tinubu committed any crime,or even likely broke any relevant law.
In other words,he was calling on EFCC just to oblige some Nigerians.

DMerciful:
Even Tinubu did not say it wasnt money in the bullion Vans, I dont know why you want everybody to believe is not money. In an interview Tinubu agreed it was money but he said he is a private citizen and can do whatever he likes with his money including giving it out to his people. The video is online, stop defending an easy case. The only thing saving him is that he is Bubu's ally

He has no case to answer.
How many notable lawyers in Nigeria have you seen calling for his arrest because a bullion van was seen driving into his compound?
There's absolutely no law against that in Nigeria. Can't you just get that!

DMerciful:
That action is a debt he already owed, it will be used against him in the future. No matter how smart someone is, he will eventually slip up some day. You know the truth but in denial!

How can he pay for a crime he didn't commit?
We are not talking about future slip-ups,are we?
Because even you who maybe carried a nylon bag from your room to the sitting room on the eve of the election day is owing a debt that might be used against you in the future.

DMerciful:
This thread isnt about Tinubu and bullion van! If you wanna absolve him of any allegation, do it somewhere else but mark it somewhere, Tinubu made a gross mistake with that act and he will pay for it. It's a matter of time.

If you were following my discussion with the Op,you'd know that we've touched on several issues including the 'bullion van' issue.
Tinubu,more or less, has absolutely no case to answer regarding the bullion van issue; except if the law in Nigeria concerning that scenario is tweaked and backdated.
As much as you may love to hate Tinubu, he's very smart at what he did on the eve of election.
You can only speculate,wish for him to go in for it or wail over it as much as you want.

mcquin:
You are missing it. Being a former public servant, an interested party in the election at a time and considering the timing, there was every reason to be investigated. The E.F.C.C had been petitioned. They had a duty to investigate.

You don't investigate what is already in the open. What is the difficulty investigating what was in the bullion van at a time? I wonder if some of you hear yourself at all. And una wan go America, so na so the America de do? Trump is under investigation over 2020 elections. So why shouldn't a party chieftain whom you know has interest in an election not be investigated when trucks meant for conveying money is seen driving into his house and people are outing waiting for him on the eve to elections?

What exactly would you investigate Tinubu for?
For money laundering? For transporting money in bullion van on the eve of an election?
If it's for money laundering, then consider the huge work EFCC would have to do to prove the case,and of course,how laughable EFCC would look before the court in trying to prove that a bullion van that they didn't see its content was driving into someone's compound. Come on now! Be real!

mcquin:
For heaven's sake, no one is shifting ground. The questions raised have not been addressed by you. Your claim is Sowore's committed treason and should be tried, my question is, who tried Buhari when he suspended the constitution and constitutional institutions in his coup, who tried Amaechi for saying "they will create a parallel government?" Abi na only one person the law dey meant for? Can Amaechi go to the U.S and say he'll create a parellel government while Trump is on sit destabilizing his government?

Can Buhari go to America and threaten violence with his infamous "dogs and baboon statement?"

Can Buhari go to America and without due process of law remove a sitting C.J who by doctrine of seperation of power is at par with him?

Can Buhari go before the American BAR and say National security is more important than rule of law and the C.J will stand there clapping for him (wondering wetin en de secure).

Can Buhari disobey American courts after it had granted bail to person's presumed innocent by the constitution until proven guilty, without the said Buhari being impeached?

We can go on and on about the human right abuses and complete disregard for Nigerians by Buhari, a thing he can't try abroad without his a.s.s being shown the way out.

You should now see why I said we should stick to the initial issue you raised; you're bringing up several other matters that will make us to digress.
For the records,I never said Sowore committed treason. I didn't say that.
I only said that he was emphatic on removing the government through a revolution,and as such,it's not unconstitutional if the government arrests him for that. This I believe,is simple enough.
If you think Buhari committed a crime by over throwing a government via coup,are you now saying his government in a democratic setting shouldn't hold someone who tries to do same responsible for it? In fact,are you insinuating that anybody can try to remove the government of the day 'illegitimately' and Buhari should do nothing?
Let me tell you this: even in developed climes,there are times national security overrides individual rights( find out about people held in Guatemala prison by the US government).
As per the 'parallel government' statement, I've explained that in my previous comment.
To simplify it,that statement was very ambiguous for the government then to have acted upon.