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plaetton:
Funny, sad, but true.
And this encapsulates the problem.

Jesus is the problem.
The Nigerian people are still being held hostage in The Slaveship Jesus , which is ironically, the name of the First merchant ship that carried the first batch of West African slaves across the atlantic.

Foreign Religions and all their associated bullshytes occupy a greatly disproportionate space in the African mind.
This is undeniable, and vastly responsible for the low intellectual girth of this generation.

GBAM! Instead of seeking solutions to their problems they'd rather pray and attend church with the belief that it will be all good when they get to heaven. Roll that up with the belief that satan rules the earth and you get a set of people who will ensure they do NOTHING to improve their communities or try to be the change they seek.

I'm really looking forward to seeing what heaven will look like at the end of the world(as they want us to believe). Nigerian will poo all over the place, steal all the gold, start collecting bribe from all the "newly dead" souls and sabotage the power supply so that heaven will be in perpetual darkness. Pfft

JimTiger4:
whether you believe that God exists or not doesn't change the fact that supernatural forces exist and the spiritual controls the physical

in between

It's spelt n.a.i.v.e.t.e or n.a.i.v.e.t.y.......Mr Philosopher

Thanks for the tip. I knew it looked somehow after I spelt it but my spell check doesn't work here.

The spiritual(your mind and not some mystic beings) control the physical(the world around you). I agree

tartar9:
does anyone know what anxiety drug I can get from a pharmacy store here in Nigeria.I have asked for the ones I know of from different stores but none had them.

You should try marijuana

PassingShot:
We do not have to be in the same country. However, have you thought of what separation will achieve for you?

I have always maintained that leadership is every region's problem in Nigeria. Look at how many years the north has ruled this country and tell me if the development in their region reflects it.

Tell me the amount of money that has gone to the ND since 1999 (it's more if you add IBB's regime), and tell me if the development in that region is commensurate with the money.

If we separate, ND to me will even have more problem than any of the other break-away regions. The reason being that, as at today, the Itsekiris have been in a long-drawn battle with the Urhobos and Ijaws in Delta state and such hostilities will remain and possibly get worse after separation. The Kalabaris, Aguileris and Umuleris have their own ethnic wahala too. Do you think separation will bring an end to all of that? I seriously don't think so.

Lastly, take a look at what is happening in South Sudan after peaceful separation from Sudan. Now, many of them wish they never separated because of the troubles they currently have which they may never get out of.

Many examples abound for me not to support balkanization of the country. What I will support instead is true federalism whereby each federating unit contribute certain percentage of their earnings to the purse of the central government.

Luckily, we have the structure that can achieve that which is the people's representatives in the NASS but sadly we are not pushing them to do it. Instead, we shout from morning till night for Biafra and Lower Niger Republic.

I dey tell you. There's going to be serious shock when they realise the reality behind their dreams. Igbos are not really united either more like competetive to each other and the itsekiris, urhobos, ijaws are even more seperated than ever.

I believe they fail to see the bigger picture. Africa should concentrating and uniting as one instead of disintegrating. To say that one rehion is being treated unfairly is a big fallacy. Everyone is suffering in this country or do they mean to say that nepa only distribute power to yoruba homes or that only the roads leading to the offices and business places of igbos are bad.

We are all affected by the ineptitude of this government. Let's fight for equal rights and try and put this tribalism behind us. At the end of the day other parts of the world will see us all as Africans.

Whether fried, grilled, barbecued, boiled, chicken na chicken

KingEbukasBlog:
threat ? what threat ? . I neva threatened you with hell fire either . If you call reality a threat that's your own biz bro , not mine . "Whatever happened to the "forgive" part of the bible?" --- . Forgive ? for what ? This is creepy

Bro, abeg. My indomie is trying to digest

KingEbukasBlog:
@ bolded --- neva heard him say that only the other part for 9 years Ive been a Chosen . I've experienced personal miracles and God's blessings ...so no be say they told me , right there sharp ! johnydon22 ... in the same "market place" I excelled academically

Hahn ... Watch wah you say about him and the church or what you see , you take mr man . My hand no dey there ooo ...

Why must you end up with a threat? Isn't there any other way that you can buttress your point without threathening me?

This is exactly why it makes no sense to believe in god. Majority of religious people always end with threatening you with hell fire. Whatever happened to the "forgive" part of the bible?

I won't dispute the fact that Lazarus Muoka is one of the few pastors I respect but at the end of the day, he can only motivate you to do what is right. Unless of course you tell me that you didn't read after his preachings and passed your exams. Can you?

ProphetUdeme:
my young friend made mention of this. That he will use hell's fire to light his cigarettes. But today the guy is no more. One word for you REPENT

Even Jesus died at age 33. Myles Munroe(RIP) is dead. Millions of people die daily. YOU and I will eventually die. The fact that you don't feel like you'll light your cigarettes with hell's flames isn't going to keep you from dying.

Piece of advice for you: STOP LIVING IN FEAR

The "brain scarcity" in heaven is really getting out of hand and that angel that is supposed to check and ensure you have your brain(a mandatory requirement) is "slow"

My advice is to always carry at least a poly bag of weed around with you so that in case you die, you'll have something to light up with all that fire.


Don't forget rizzla

johnydon22:
WtTF hahn was talking booklets and Aprons and you are talking foodstuffs..

And he is said HQ which means in lagos, please is your parish in Lagos or is it the headquarters?

Actually, I did mention foodstuff in my last sentence of the comment. They also run a discount store on foodstuffs. For real

He was actually being evasive about the aprons, book(that thing is not a booklet, more like a very big book with pictures or an encyclopedia of miracles), stickers etc

Its a holy mall

chinkichun:
Which state are you?

Ogun state. I can give you the name of my street and your friend has to appear in my compound

JimTiger4:
Mr philosopher.... since there are no spirit realms,deities or supernatural powers.... can u pls kindly explain to me how my friend's once pagan grandmother traveled in 2mins from abriba village to Benin without any visible means of transportation by 1am

well, a fool says in his heart...there's no God

Pictures or IDONBELIEVEIT!

It would take the depths of the atlantic ocean to sink your naivette

KingEbukasBlog:
" if you ever need cheap foodstuff, lords chosen is the place to be!" with the long services the weary can freshen up .If its expensive ,they'd say we are running a business

... this is Nairaland ... anyone can claim to have been with or visited someone/somewhere though

Pictures of you in my church or ... (this isn't new)

Lol. Dude, you're a real clown. I don't have pics though but I have something better. There is something I actually admire about the guy, Lazarus Muoka. When it got to offering time he said, "if you're a thief, drug dealer, political funds extortionist or get your money illegally please don't put your money in our basket. If you do, go home and never repeat your mistake again(this could actually be the final sales pitch though)".

Also, there's part of the service where he asks everyone to close their eyes and raise their hands whenever they hear a sin they are currently into. I can remember when he said wanking and the guy beside me raised up his hand. You can bet I didn't shake that guy after the service.

By the way, its still a market. However, they sell at discounted prices

johnydon22:
Lmao. . . Am sure an atheist didn't create that thread and i never intended it as an attack to your church... . You were advertising your church well and I gave you the link to show you other christians dont share your sentiments about your church...

Is not even an argument, so dont flatter yourself, everyone looking at your smiley filled posts can surely deduct that ..

Thanks for replying that dude. I've attended lords chosen HQ in the past and once when I sat down at the back I noticed that NONE of the sick/paralyzed people got healed.

And they also sell a book like that filled with pictures of people who have received their "healing". Minimum cost is N5,000. All those aprons they wear are for sale. The stickers are for sale. Everything is for sale.

Even though Jesus was said to have gotten angry over the fact that people were turning his father's house into a business center, kingebukasblog's church is a mall. By the way, if you ever need cheap foodstuff, lords chosen is the place to be!

KingEbukasBlog:
Explain @ bolded text

The whole idea of religion is to exploit the gullible masses. They sell "salvation" in exchange for "tithes" the exact same way iya nkechi sells akara for N10. "Salvation, blessings, eternal life etc" are the products, "hell fire, eternal damnation etc" are the motivating factors to buy, the "church" is the office, "evangelism, preaching, tracts(flyers) etc" are marketing strategies and you pay in form of tithes.

Business as usual

vedaxcool:
Please where did I call the church satanic for this?

My point stop invoking islam or religion in general The op clearly is about xtianity.

And feminist when do u plan calling satan general

I actually confused you for the op initially. No vex. He's the one that called the idea satanic

vedaxcool:
Let's be on topic. Thanks.

I actually am. You don't expect everyone to share your point of view that all of a sudden the church of England is satanic just because the have decided to refer to god as a woman. Afterall, women are responsible for pro creating and producing babies therefore it is safe to assume that god is a woman since god is responsible for creation..

I guess we'll now have to refer to nature as "father nature" instead. Personally, the whole idea is more appealing because now, men can now stop referring to women degoratively by calling them biatch, LovePeddler, slut etc because you'd also referring to god in those terms.

And what exactly makes you feel that your opinion matters anyway. The mafia behind the church can decide to do whatever suits them and all they have to do is convince your "daddy GO" to convince you that its right. The only contribution they want from you is your offering. As long as gullible people believe everything you're told, its business as usual

plaetton:
^^^
Even more pathetic is the fact that Africans, the most racially exploited people in human history, are the very last to realize this.

Its becoming more and more apparent that religion doesn't have any real moral base. Its just a tool used to deceive and exploit the gullible

SLIDEwaxie:
well, u shld av skipped the part where you display your stupidity.

I used the word 'skin'.
as in skinning, or peeling the outer layer

And it didn't occur to you that the word "skin" wouldn't have been appropriate in MY comment?

SLIDEwaxie:
you may skin to the part where you sell your eBook...

You shouldn't have "skipped" the part where you had to use your brain

Op, how much mb are you saving by not posting the article here?

The stories are never consistent. Since god is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow it is questionable that he has refused to reveal himself to us as he did in those days.

Its safe to say that your "supernatural" experience is nothing more than the fact that you were unable to explain it. It doesn't necessarily mean god was behind it unless of course you say that he is also responsible for every other thing that's wrong with the world

Royver:
Yes I do.
If you have never had a supernatural experience, then i dont expect you to understand.
If you consider the vastness of variety around you, where you stay is not the same with anywhere else even though you live in a block of flats your flat will always be familiar to you. You do not look exactly like any other person on earth even though we are numbering 6billion now, of course you might have a doppleganger but he wont be exactly the same as you. Your clothing is different from those of any other person where you work or where you worship or where you party, even when you wear the same clothes your friend can differentiate you from the other person wearing the same uniform as yourself...then you begin to see the versatility of He who created you and relaise that you didnt just evolve, evolution is so random that there would have been repititions.

Something happened thousands of years ago and the ancients from all over the world saw it significant enough to write it down.
It is no myth.

Lacomus:
I was just going tru Noah's account when this question crossed my mind.
NOTE: I'm not in any way doubting the power of God.
Qst:: How did out of a thousand or more animal of a particular species only two (Male and female) heard Noah call into the Ark ?

We're having this same discussion on https://www.nairaland.com/2348970/thorough-analysis-biblical-noahs-ark and you're welcome to join us

Royver:
The story of a global flood is not peculiar to the jews alone. All over the ancient world there are texts from Phonecia, Akkadia, Babylona, Assyria, etc that depict there was a flood that wiped out all life.

This does not revoke the flood story but rather fortifies it. the ancients from all over the world experienced something. Those who had written language penned it down and it was passed on to those who had no written language at the time.


Also, you are a scientist. Till date, the flood is the best explanation for why the diinosaurs all died at once and why their bones are found in layers/sediments of rock. Its simple classroom soil sedimentation. I'm sure you did it in primary school.

Coincedentally, we are having this same discussion and you're welcome to join us @ https://www.nairaland.com/2348970/thorough-analysis-biblical-noahs-ark

Royver:
They were quite literally led by the spirit of God.
An old painting shows angels leading the chosen animals into the ark.
Yet another shows animals that started migrating(protected on thier journey by angels) to the place of the construction of the ark months before noah recieved his inspiration to build it e.g polar bears.
So you see, there could have been many ways in which the animals got to be in the ark.


If something is an historical fact, there is every possibility that more than one person will take down the account e.g the gospels according to matthew, mark and luke, magdalene, etc.
So if the creation story appears in earlier text it further butresses the proof that it actually did happen.

Do you REALLY believe that the "spirit" led them? So, all species of animals around the world all strolled, 1 male and female only, into Noah's ark. ALL species includes insectd, bugs, mamals, reptiles etc

TheDauraMallam:
What does this mean in English?

Or do you also mean the same thing with this?

What do you really expect? That christians will actually read through that write up or that they will actually allow themselves to be mentally challenged into rethinking everything their parents and "elders" told them with the possibility of it all being a lie?

That there is actually no god and they have been dancing and praising their imagination all this while?

Have you forgotten that this is Nigeria where people prefer to listen to"gbagbatingba music" and ridicule poetry? Its way easier to believe what you're told than to seek and search for the truth. For most people anyways. Ignorance is bliss

Did you write that yourself?

Pipsland78:
Thank you so much and I really appreciate this. However, I also did my research about the spiritual real and about Christianity and I found out that the spirit realm exists and that Jesus is the ONLY way. I'm talking from personal experience bro, not what was told me by a pastor. Thing is most people want to have a personal experience before believing which is sad.

Now let me ask, do you believe there is a spirit realm?

Please give us a detailed explanation as regards what you consider to be the spiritual realm, your experiences and possible evidence

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