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i am sorry i don't have time to debunk the third claim cause it senseless

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[s]Fourthly, United States were most of these cures come from was founded by strong Christian fathers who gave the country a good foundation.
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This is literally a meaningless statement, i mean the constitution quite deliberately omits all mention of god, let alone JESUS. The declaration of independence mentions creation specifically, but it never says this creator intervenes.
most the people who wrote the decleration were DEIST not THEIST.
it is true to say that most believers in america are Christians, but that is a banal fact

Shelumiel:
Baba, you be super liar. You dey talk without facts Abeg pack well.

please point them out

[s]Secondly, most of the drugs you enjoy today were discovered by Christians e.g. Penicillin.
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well this guy just keeps making silly arguments. There was a time most scientist were Muslims that is why most stars name have Arabic origin , we also have names like Alcohol, Algebra etc.

note many of these scientist who were believers never took their religion to the lab.

Isaac newton (my favorite scientist) was a christian and an alchemist.
but it does not prove alchemy was true and this doesn't prove your god exist

Shelumiel:
Nice question. Now what has athesim contributed to mankind other than irrationality and foolishness?

Atheism is just lack of belief nothing nor nothing less.
Atheism has no tenets or dogma, and atheism cannot tell you what is right. Most of the atheist here simply don’t believe in god because there’s no enough evidence to support the claim of god.

The only positive thing I’ve seen atheism contributing for the benefit of mankind is

Well it helped us abolish divine laws like slavery, rape, genocide etc.

It would be childish for me to bring about atheist scientist and their discovery

[s]First of all, many of those scientists are Christian's.[/s]

How did the poster know most of them were believers ? He probably just conjured a survey in his mind and jumped straight to conclusions.

He definitely doesn’t know that science doesn’t care if you’re a believer or not, Just follow the data from your experiment.

No scientist ever goes into his or her laboratory with their bible as a guide!

I was reading a thread in which someone said somethings I found ludicrous . When I went through his argument I was perplexed by how a rational human would drop these unreasonable points as an evidence for the existence of god!



Let me quote this author

Jeromejnr:
I have been seeing some deluded Athiest on here bashing religion and saying things like all religions (especially Christianity) are waiting for scientists to find a cure then they will thank God instead of the scientists.

First of all, many of those scientists are Christian's.

Secondly, most of the drugs you enjoy today were discovered by Christians e.g. Penicillin.

Thirdly, Hospitals were first founded by Christians.

Fourthly, United States were most of these cures come from was founded by strong Christian fathers who gave the country a good foundation.

Lastly, Athiests enjoy the benefits of Christian prayers today (although they don't know it). Because of this, most of them are still alive. But with that same breath, they choose to curse God.

So the question is, what has Athiesm contributed to the world?

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Righteousness89:
god's have done nothing and can do nothing..

GOD made you..
The Breathe in you is given by GOD..

That GOD that you don't Recongnize today, you Must Recongnize and Bow to on the Other side.. u don't have a Choice

God never made me.
The breathe I inhale and exhale was never given to me by god! But because my ancestors evolved

I think it is the other way round, god has always been bowing down to science

Righteousness89:
What you Claim is being done by Scientists, Professor and all that CANNOT work without GOD

Which disease has god cured in history?
God is just a nonentity who claims scientist glory.

Infact they themselves cannot Function without GOD..

GOD can Function can Function and do whatever he wanna do without Them...

Yes! God functions in the mind of mad people
So god exists?

Same logic goes for “unicorns exists in my mind so unicorns exists”

Prayer is not Just Mumbling of Words..

Real definition of prayer is talking to ones self hoping someone up there in the sky is listening and can change the situation

Alas! No one is up there listening to you! Sorry

It's Communication with the Force that Makes things to Work..

What force ?

Applied Force.
Gravitational Force.
Normal Force.
Frictional Force.
Air Resistance Force.
Tension Force.
Spring Force.

GOD ALMIGHTY does not need Anyone to Make things Happen. It's when He wants to Magnify and Advertise a Man that He gives Him the Privilege to be the instrument through which he does what he wants..

We scientist and engineers don’t need any god to make our design happen. We only say god did it so we can look very humble cause we know god is just a bag of bullshit

Prayers Alone will take away This Pandemic!
But it has to be the Right Prayers..

When ever there’s an emergency I don’t see you pray, rather you go to the hospital for help!

Someone on Nairaland said, If prayers work ambulance would be taking people to hospital

The Prayer of a Sinner is an Abomination to GOD..

Well that’s gods business

If the UN of Today will call all President of Nations and they all as the Representative of their nations go flat to GOD pleading for Mercy From GOD ALMIGHTY..

The way this Virus came is the way it will go..
It will be like a Dream..

Okay enough of the comical statements!



God and everything supernatural don’t exists

Ladylite:
Who gives wisdom to work.... Does man know how to create himself?

Nope! But I don’t think we need god for us to be in existence. We are all products of natural selection.

LOL, you are full of knowledge but how come wisdom eludes you to know that there is an higher intelligence at play here called God.

You remind me of anselm ontological argument here why can’t god have a more intelligent designer?

Even men who care less about human lives have been able to weaponized a biological weapon called Covid 19 and you still think everything is OK?

Any evidence for this claim ?

If you do not have all the answers then seek Him who does.

When we pray God directs the scientists to the right place and mixture to solve things. So don't think too high of yourself as a human. That's all we can be-HUMAN

God is a jobless fellow (if he exists) why would an all knowing god create a very dangerous virus to attack those who he claims he loves in the first place ?

We didn't evolve from apes either cos no ape kept in a lab has ever evolved. So stop defending incomplete ignorance that there is no God or prayer does not work.

wow!!!! You just committed a straw man fallacy. I’m sure you’ve not read anything about evolution. You just keep spitting rubbish made by creationists. Please get good biological textbooks and journals, then we can discuss

evolution is a fact as much as gravity is

Look at how atheists kept coming against the idea of a God but now they are sanitizing their hands without ever seeing anyone have COVID-19.... Is that not FAITH?

you’re being intellectually disingenuous
Because you just committed an equivocation fallacy. You’re equivocating the word faith in your first and second premise which makes this argument flawed!

Right now everyone all over the world has one belief, that Covid 19 is so real.... Whyyyyy? DEATH...

So?

I don't care who talks or comments otherwise.... At the point of death everyone who has dying breath gets scared of the unknown or they pray of they secretly always knew but lived in denial just to oppose the idea.

Well a lot of people have never experienced what it is to be dead. So that’s why they’re scared. But why should I pray against death when I know all living things would die?

Or why should you believers pray against death when you can just die and enjoy your heavenly place where there’s milk and honey and gold on the floor

So brother, prayer works when it is done right, God is real and life itself is proof.... Death is inevitable and that is where the greatest of atheists change opinions sadly it is not aired

nope! Life is not an evidence for god!
Life is an evidence for natural selection

No!!! prayer has never been known to solve any single problem.

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Everrest9:
Mumu, your life is a waste...

Answer the simple question, you don't have to insult anyone here

slab plan structural detailing on Autocad 2020


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNqzI-vI6mM&t=20s

i know someone who went

i studied civil engineering, and i practice my engineering

you would need to write a federal school post UTME to get admission.
but i thought when you are filling the jamb form, you are supposed to pick the uni you want to go to

fairfora:
the kingdom of God appears foolish to them that perish..

god is petty!!!!!!! god is supposed to help us now. But no! he is more concerned with what people do while they are naked, rather than help us with this covid-19

fairfora:
An atheist like this OP would probably be one of those belonging to the wasted generations in the end.

Wait a minute, do you read the bible at all?

Never mind, the end is not here yet. It's one epidemic the whole world experienced and things began to fall apart. With this, it would be difficult to face the tribulations coming to the heads of the unbelievers like you, except you repent. It has never been this worse globally. This is just the sign of the end time and unless people like you repent, you shall likewise perish...it not me who said so, neither is it a curse. It's in the bible. The era of grace is drawing to an end gradually but deaf-eared people like you would never listen as it was in the day of Noah.

In china where the Corona virus was first detected, how many of them believe in God? I met a chinese who said openly he didn't believe in God. In Italy you mentioned, which used to be the seat of religion, how many of them acknowledge God in their way of life nowadays? The world headquarters of prostitution is Italy...you expect God to stay happy with a country where prostitution is legalised, where dogs have sex with human beings?

What of western countries where porn is legalised and innocent girls are being lured into sex-modeling , where scientists who don't believe on the existence of God thrive? Those who belong to God, even if they contract the disease, would survive it. When a sinner serves punishment, the upright would also have a share of it.

Nigeria is a country so loved by God. He knows we do not have a helper but Him. People have criticised Nigeria all over the world as the only country where there are a large number of churches. Now is the time God is paying His people back for acknowledging Him. Since last December, Nigeria has been witnessing an intensely hot weather. It had rained in Lagos 3 times heavily recently yet, the heat has remained unabated. Researchers have come up with their findings on the Coronavirus that, it cannot thrive under a hot weather and that's why gagging is recommended and use of hot water by the west. If you walk a 100 meters in lagos for instance, same with other parts of Nigeria, the heat that would greet you is huge. People are sweating profusely under their roofs...God had made this happen ahead, knowing fully well we are a helpless people. I've lived in lagos and Nigeria most of my life. I'm in my 40s and the heat since last December has been unprecedented. I wouldn't know if such was experienced before i was born.

This is the time an atheist like you the OP, the scientists whose knowledge and claims have failed them and those who never believe the end could come to this world to think twice. This is just an example of one of the many plagues that would hit the earth at the imminent end time.

what rubbish did you write like this ?

mrbishop:
Many nairaland Atheists were very happy and salivated at the thought of churches getting closed down due to the corona virus, some of them may have even masturbated to it.
One of them here even had the boldness opened a thread to insult the holy spirit.
They abused pastors, and rained insults on Jesus Christ.
Some said Government should seize mega churches and turn it to Coronavirus isolation centres.
[s]Now God has started his work by making a rejected drug (chloroquine) to be effective in the treatment of corona virus.
Shame on you Atheists!!! .[/s]
Very soon Corona virus will pass, and many more souls will be added to the church.

cc lalasticlala

never ever seen more gibberish written with confidence.
like hitchen said "The man who prays is the one who thinks that god has arranged matters all wrong, but who also thinks that he can instruct god how to put them right.”

I believe it is incompetence from the side of the government. It does not take up to a day to get the ATM card, why should it now take over 4 years to just make a national ID card

no it is not a sin!

how does having sex, masturbating or a engaging in any sexual activity affects god in anyway.

i feel Jehovah is too petty (lets assume he exists). what he is only interested in is what two people do when they are naked. he does not care about the hunger going on in the world.

religious people is that your god?

kingxsamz:
Everyone should just chill.
Corona virus can't touch the children of God. Corona virus is a punishment from God on China for their sins.
So no need to take precautions...

so god is not punishing Italy and other European countries?

what crime did they commit that warrants such punishment from the omniscient man?

So those who have spent transport money from Lagos to sokoto nkor

Kkshanana90:
Hello guys! I will need some help.

One major problems that I have is that I feel too attached to a girl at the wooing and early phase of a relationship. How do I get over this? Please share your experience.

the best advice i can give is for you to make friends with other females, this technique will enable you reduce your attachment to your crush.
if you keep giving your crush too much attention, she would not take you serious and she would see you as someone who is clingy.
try to make her miss you and follow other women, you would notice she would start coming back to you ( if she is interested in the first place.).

girls like guys that other ladies are after

wow, we learn new things every day. I knew about number 3 last year

Okay it’s always good to hear both side of the story.

But it would have been better if You had just break up with the lady instead of wasting her time, even though you painted her as a cheat and she painted you as a serial womaniser.

Just break up with the lady if you claim she’s a cheat

LordReed:
Holy water can't battle germs? LMFAO!

holy water is only useful for cleaning my ass after using the toilet

IamPatriotic:
Please how about people who are posted to Adamawa, is their redeployment also automatic? My small brother is posted to Adamawa and he has never travelled beyond Abuja all his life. And where is their orientation camp?

I think adamawa is also part of the states with insecurity issues, but I can’t say for sure. Because I was posted to Borno state and there was automatic relocation for most of us that applied

Besto:
borno state.

Atleast you that want to redploy, you don't need to pay any body again as people posted to borno is auto redployment to any choice state.

apart from lagos, abuja, rivers state, state of origin and state of institution

Ineedtoheal:
Hi Famlanders, Please I need your advice. I beg you all to save a sister. I have to bring this here coz I know it's where I will get wonderful contributions. Again, I am using this new account coz I have friends and customers here. I don't want to blow my cover. Please this is real and not fiction. This will be quite lengthy, please bear with me.

I met this guy in 2013 when I was in year one. It was not a steady relationship coz we barely call nor see so I didn't take him serious. And whenever we see, it was always at one friends house or another. I accused him of being married but he vehemently denied it. Later on I figured out he had accommodation issue after he lost his job. He later rented a house when he got another job with one of our prestigious federal universities here in Nigeria and that was when things became serious (kinda).

We became very serious around 2016 that is why I count it as 5 years instead of 7. But then during one of my visits, I was sleeping in the room when I overheard him talking to someone but the only thing that caught my attention was when he said "I don't even have a girlfriend". Though I didn't confront him, but I thought about it deeply.

Two nights ago, I had a dream where he was getting married to another lady. I was crying while he was still saying he loves me but can't marry me. I confronted him yesterday, he said I am pressurizing him to marry me that was after he first asked what will happen if we don't end up together. He hasn't told me where the relationship is leading to after 5 years. We have been living for the moment. Just for the moment!

Few info about the relationship
1) He will be 40 this November while I am 27.

This isn’t bad

2. He has always had numerous girlfriends that when he's with them, he doesn't pick my calls though he always apologizes and he's trying his best this year.

He had many numerous girlfriends that when he’s with them he doesn’t pick your calls? It means you’re just one of those numerous ladies.

He always apologise and you forgive him all the time ? once a cheat always a cheat

3. He always send pictures of other women to his friends to let them know they are the people he wish to marry but never has he sent mine. Though he claims he's not doing it again.

My sister it means he doesn’t see a future with you

4. From the look of things he's still searching while he wants to have me all to himself. Maybe a second option since the others are not accepting him and I love him foolishly.

He’s still searching While he wants to waste your time , anyhow you’ve still got age on your side, since you’re still in your twenties.

5. The relationship is 50 -50 .We spend on each other. He believes it's the woman's duty to do all the house chores but not the man's duty to take care of the woman.

This isn’t bad

6. On his Fathers burial last year, 3 of his girlfriends came (me inclusive) and we all wore the burial uniform. Together, we served his guests even when we realized we are dating same man. His neighbors were giggling and gossiping but we all decided to be matured and work together.

To be honest, I feel he’s just using you to while away time, cause I don’t see him getting married to either of the 3 of you. Except he’s testing you guys to see who has good character.

7. When my sister that raised me died, he didn't come for the burial. his reason was he had supervision that day in school,same person that calls his colleague to cover for him during exam supervision so he could do other things. He also didn't send me any money but he questioned me for not giving him any money for his Father's burial. Even when I paid him excess for the burial uniform. I know why I did that. Mind you, he has asked me before if he can give one of his ex 10k during her Father's burial which I agreed and he sent her the money.

This is funny

8. I have rejected some suitors who were willing to marry me coz of him. Though he has never encouraged me to accept any of them. In fact he gets angry hearing that another man is coming close to me.

I feel he’s just wasting your time

9. He doesn't call often, I do more of the calling though he always return my calls. He can stay for days without calling unless I call. I know I have been the one holding the relationship coz I thought he will change.

He would change Why do you think he’d change his behaviour because of you ?

10. Sine 2017 till last year, all I did was forgive him coz I love him. He keeps bringing new / different ladies into the picture. I have gone through a lot of emotional stress. He keeps asking me to stay that he loves me but he's confused.

Confused that what

His good side: He's understanding, motivates me to do my best, he doesn't hit me, he is gentle.

Me on the other hand is sometimes stubborn though very faithful coz I love him to a fault. I easily get angry but forgives easily. When I'm angry I talk so much but I don't abuse him. He is simply the cause of all my anger. He always say I am very understanding, a good girl, drama free but yet he doesn't want to marry me and won't let me go too. I have never involved a third party in our relationship except my late sister who said she wish I will walk away from the relationship because I love the guy more, that it won't end well. All my friends thinks I have a perfect relationship because I don't discuss him with them.

Back to last night, I told him I won't call him again coz he said I am pressurizing him to marry me. The truth is I have seen the hand writing on the wall, not today but two years ago but I keep going back. Please I need advice on how not to go back again. The love he proclaims for me is not enough for him to marry. I have wasted enough time already. Maybe hearing the raw truth here will help.

From my analysis, I can deduce that the man isn’t ready for marriage, he’s wasting your time, he’s a cheat and he doesn’t see you in his future

Please gather some cojones and move on

justtoodark:
their were others that were much bigger in earlier ages but the flood got rid of them....

but no single fossil to back up your claim

justtoodark:
6feet is 182.88cm....

their are people today that tall....
the bible is not lying to you....
you just misunderstand everything....

Well we really cannot blame those bronze Age guys! The average height most of them were 5’2” and below. Seeing a man almost 7 feet would be strange