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1Sharon:
Have you actually considered that oledepo and adebole may be atheists?

very possible.
Smart athiests.

yeyerolling:
May ogun kill wenger and his players. Instead make i use 5k host babe and collect pussy. I go use am play arsenal win and . Gosh

lol

MikaelsonRx:
I don't blame you, it's your parents who didn't kill you as a child that I'd blame. You're just as stupid as they are.

Another christian. Read what you just typed and tell me how better you are compared to the guy u are insulting. He is even better than you.

Fvcknames:
I've actually thought of the possibility of him being an atheist in disguise, but I doubt that.

But I'll be surprised if he ends up still practicing Christianity

He is on the right track anyway, i just hope he does not limit his scrutiny to pastors but all what he believes as a christian.

Truth is one can only remain a christian by being dishonest and non-inquisitive

I find it funny that the biggest fans of Daddy Freeze are actually christians, christians who are fed up of the excesses of their church leaders.

What many of daddy freeze's supporters fail to realize is, it goes well beyond critisizing pastors for collecting tithes.

Daddy Freeze is basically questioning everything, a little here and a little there .

Why criticize fasting?
Why should daddy freeze support the practice of the bible patriaches sleeping with their maids (slaves)

This is how many of us ex-christians started.

We started asking questions
We started being realisic with ourselves


Daddy freeze mocked RCCG's 50 days fasting. Now this is a mile too far for someone who claims to be a Christian.
Fasting and prayer is foundamental in christianity and, there is absolutely NO REASON WHY A SO CALLED CHRISTIAN SHOULD MOCK THOSE FASTING AND COMPARE THEM TO AN UNBELIEVER (JEFF BEZOS).

So is daddy freeze really a christian? Or an athiest in making/disguise.

Before you clap for daddy freeze especially if you are a christian or muslim, ask yourself, "what other doctrines or beliefs of yours are false and counter-productive?"

So fasting cant make you rich
Definately prayers cant
Paying tithes cant

Then how is God useful?
What does daddy freeze practice as a christian?
Has he investigated the origin of the bible he claims to believe in?

A little here a little there. We are withnessing, the unveiling of a free-thinker.

The time to question all your beliefs has come, it is beyond tithing, this is just the beginning.

This was how i became an atheist.

Ferisidowu:
hard mirror, did the Bible teach that,,, because you are a Christians you must live in good health?

did the Bible teach that God answers ALL TYPES OF PRAYERS even those out of his will?

the doctrines you held when you were a PASTOR is wrong.. I have read all of the things you asked me to read....

I not telling you to change your mind. .. lolz
I just want you to see that being a pastor doesn't mean you even understand scriptures...

i want your reply on just this then: https://www.nairaland.com/3411190/2-year-old-daughter-got

waiting...

OkaiCorne:
Good morning bro...trust you're doing great.

One question please...has the Spirit of the Eternal Creator led you into any mistake before?

pls enlighten me about this spirit.

shadeyinka:
Missed you.
Stay blessed

hey bro, so sorry, just seeing this...
happy new year.

been busy offline, why i dont post much anymore

Ferisidowu:
lolz I have missed sha!... didn't know there such an interesting discussion... I know the op won't answer even if I call for him.... but yet an not bothered .. .


his case isn't special ....

there are things I can relate to in his stories. ..

anyways those who know the race isn't for the Swift and TONGUE SPEAKERS AND 12 HOURS PRAYERS knows that the bro fell into wrong doctrines ... I wonder how someone would be so vast in the And yet still be conducting Pentecostal type of deliverance lolz

i would answer you.
so what have you got on your mind?

as for wrong doctrines, you need to read some of my threads and try be honest with yourself.

https://www.nairaland.com/3411190/2-year-old-daughter-got

https://www.nairaland.com/3283092/heaven-hell-after-earth-makes

https://www.nairaland.com/3106646/where-god-juju-vodoo-when

https://www.nairaland.com/3063674/what-race-adam-say-evolution

https://www.nairaland.com/3209719/true-story-praying-against-boko

https://www.nairaland.com/3156251/why-christians-most-evil-sect

https://www.nairaland.com/3247447/must-read-perfect-explanation-why

https://www.nairaland.com/3329670/lessons-learned-6-year-old


that is besides the obvious,
god does not answer prayers
the contradictions and misleadings of the bible
the obvious plagiarism of the bible stories
nothing adds up.

you believe your own god and reject others, why?

JPENG:
As regards to freeze definition, Sheeple is different from Sheep..

Which is?

TheUbermensch:
Understanding is key in everything in life.

The #FreeTheSheeple thing is not an allusion to the sheep in the Bible, rather it talks about how today's Christians just swallow anything given them by their pastors hook, line and sinker, like sheep. Because sheep lack basic reasoning and can't reason for themselves.

I think he's calling on Christians to be more conscious mentally and to be able to think for themselves so they don't fall into the hands of extortionists and false prophets.

Either way, as long as daddy freeze is a christian, he is a sheep and subject to many fooolishness. He probably speaks in tongues, he probable spends much resources on prayers and attending church. Tithes is no big deal and not an isolated counter productive practice. Everything about the church is synonymous to foo.lishness and even the bible agrees on this.

4kings:
Happy new year Otem, Raphiemontella Delishpot Wilgrea7 AnonyNymous Dalaman KingEbukasBlog Johnydon22 Cloudgoddess Teempakguy frank317 Hahn Benzics DeepSight PastorAIO SirJohn Plaetton Loj Sarrassin Felixomor JonBellion UyiIredia Adepeter2027 Akintom Hopefullandlord MrPresident1 Image123 JackBizzle SirWere winner01 Sharon01 DoctorAlien Analice107 Olaadegbu Shadeyinka Richirich713 CoolUsername bennyann HardMirror ValentineMary Seun et al

Hope we get more reasonable, peaceful and productive this year.

Hey! Happy new year bro. Cheers

Jesus declared himself to be the good shepherd. And the bible is full of analogies that shows that followers of christ must be sheeps
Read Mathew 25: 36-42

It is ironic that daddy freeze claims to be a christian and yet he is so against the sheep mindset of the Nigerian Christians in particular.

is the sheep mentality limited to tithing?

How about speaking in tongues?

Believing the bible?

Not asking questions about the contradictions in the bible?

How about faith? Believing God answers prayers but yet God fails to answer prayers and yet people keep praying?

It is imposible to be a christian and not be a sheep (a follower that asks no questions)

So i ask, what type of christian is daddy freeze and does he think he is not a sheeple himself as long as he has religion and i a christian despite the many glaring fooo.lishness of the religion which can only be adhered to by faith of a sheep

oluebubeneo:
How do you approach new years?

No resolutions, no prayers, it is just a circle, everyday is special and should be lived with determination. Each day spent is a day off our lives we dont have to wait till january first before realizing that time is going and we have a lot to do. Same with birthdays, not special to me, just another day

Saverin:
Lol.

Did I speak French?

you made no sense. The men you mentioned, do you have any evidence of them hiding anything through science? And even if they do, does that make science incompetent of unraveling the mysteries of the world we live in and beyond?

oluebubeneo:
makes sense

How do you approach new years?

Saverin:
If you say there is nothing beyond science then you are myopic. Research which is the back borne of science is funded. who funds it knows the hidden knowledge. #Rockefeller #Rothschild #Gates ....

What rubbish is this?
Speak english please

Many nigerians would be in church today to seek the face of God for 2018. Many churches would come up with themes for the new year.
Here is how the 4th riches man in the world approaches his new years.

CEO Mark Zuckerberg is a longtime advocate of New Year's resolutions and he publicly pledges a new personal challenge every year. While he has yet to reveal his resolution for 2018, his past challenges have included some more mundane goals, like "wear a tie every day" (2009) to "become a vegetarian" (2011), and some ambitious ones, like "build a simple AI to run my home and help me with my work" (2016).

This past year, the billionaire's resolution was to meet new people throughout the country.

"My personal challenge for 2017 is to have visited and met people in every state in the U.S. by the end of the year," Zuckerberg wrote in a Facebook post. "I've spent significant time in many states already, so I'll need to travel to about 30 states this year to complete this challenge. After a tumultuous last year, my hope for this challenge is to get out and talk to more people about how they're living, working and thinking about the future."

And wife of bill gates

Melinda Gates, co-founder of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, has a unique strategy when it comes to resolutions. In the past, she has said that, instead of setting a resolution, she picks a single word to look to for guidance over the next 12 months. In 2016, that word was "gentle."

"I've found this to be more successful than setting a more traditional resolution, because instead of prompting a radical change in behavior, it encourages a gradual change in mindset," Gates wrote in an article for Real Simple. "Last January, I chose the word 'gentle,' and I've spent 2016 trying to put it into practice — being gentler to those around me, gentler in my approach to the world, and most importantly, gentler to myself."

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/28/how-mark-zuckerberg-and-melinda-gates-approach-new-years-resolutions.html

adepeter2027:
Seems you have malaria...

Chaii

Yahweh wasn't invented, but amadioha was.? You're pregnant walai.

Shey you see double standard principle just caught up with you

Lol

adepeter2027:
Insanity, delusion and gullibility

Even those have their fields of study in science. Science covers all even if you have to call it metascience. As long as it exists, it can be sturdied under science.

Deckline:
Lol... The word "Omniscient" is one of the attributes of GOD. He knows everything. There are things beyond science interpretation. Knowing Science does not make you Omniscient, cause Science is earthly. There is GOD who controls science.

Pls educate me, what are the things beyond science?
What do you mean by science is earthly? If aliens exist they would need science which is simple knowledge to survive and make their lives easier. So science cant be subjected to the earth. It is knowledge. Saying science cant know everything is synonymous to saying knowledge cant know everything

Saverin:
@joshuakdboy

There are some forces that are beyond the understanding of science but they are not reliable.

If they were, this juju that can protect someone from being injured has a trillion dollar market in the defense industry.

I can boldly say, there is absolutely NOTHING beyond science. Our knowledge of science maybe limited but that does not limit science. Science is the one and true omniscient. As you can see science is knowlegde itself hence the word omni-SCIENT which means "to know" which is science. We should stive to seek empirical truth . Only that can guarantee our future and not mumbo jumbo of voodoo and superstitions

hopefulLandlord:
Sleight Of Hand

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleight_of_hand

Makes me remember this thread and ask were all these charms are working.
https://www.nairaland.com/3432702/russia-buy-nigerias-military-technology

Cc seun obinna58, adepeter2027 joshuakdboy

dalaman:
Go and take your drugs and stop acting a fool. I just showed you that name dropping means nothing ,you were the one that was trying to build a mountian out of names that were dropped and I asked you to use the names and give me the details of the people. How can you prove that all the names you dropped are the names of real people?

Kathryn Kuhlman the faith healer that "healed" one of the people whose name you dropped has shown that faith healing is false. She went to the hospital when she was sick and needed medical attention. She didn't rely on faith healing. Your mental illness also shows that faith healing is a ruse because that is not what you rely on for healing.

Ask him to tell us how kathryn kulman died.

butterflyl1on:
1. Name of researcher and his qualifications and medical submissions were given.

2. Names of those healed and where was given

3. Illnesses they were healed from were given

So suddenly you do not know how to type in such information on Google to research them yourself but know how to type a response to my post? You are quick to research religious stuff but this one you need me to get you evidence when all you need to get YOURSELF all the evidence you seek you somehow cannot do.

Clap for your own mumu oh lying dalaman the salamander.

THREAD CLOSED AND LOCKED DOWN.

Typing in caps wont close the thread

We know these types of testimonies. When investigated we begin to see the gaps and lies.
Recall that nairaland pastor who cured someone of his AIDS? Remember when he was investigated what was found out? Many are misdiagnosed, some undergo conventional threatment but all would claim Jesus healed them. Some are not even healed but just forcing the "miracle" by proclaiming to be healed. Follow up many of these people and you'ld discover many die of diseases they claimed jesus healed them of

butterflyl1on:
Your thread is as bogus as you are.

Read the below and thereafter you can hang yourself out of frustration



http://www.is-there-a-god.info/life/tenhealings/

I read somewhere that you claimed to be an evangelist turned atheist and had such a glowing spiritual record but your post and my counter shows you to be nothing but a mega sham and totally deceitful in all your ways.

THREAD EFFECTIVELY CLOSED.

Dont forget to include the list of millions of people who have died believing God was going to heal them. You remember that nairalander who needed a kidney donor here? Recall he had pastor adeboye pray for him yet he never got better and still needed a kidney transplant?

You are the scums of the earth. Most dishonest people. Ignoring facts and the obvious while promoting lies that cannot be backed up

dalaman:
It will be easier for a rabbit to turn into a lion than for that one to ever get sense. Móron is his last name. Felixmoron.

Lol. That guy is dunce defined

felixomor:
Making conclusions without investigation.

I Wonder why an atheist is concerned about death.

The village clown is here. Merry xmas o.
Hope u get sense 2018

Read DEATH BY FAITH
http://www.letusreason.org/wf25.htm

hopefulLandlord:
this is an interesting take

what are SonOfLuc1fer 's thoughts on this?

Pastors have lead to the death of many, but the sheeple never ask questions. That is why the pastors get away with this crime

https://www.skepticink.com/gps/2013/12/14/faith-healing-is-fake-healing/
To read more

Can Oyakilome, TB Joshua and the rest openly ask those who have not been healed in their programs to come out?
No they wont because this would expose their lies.

Why dont they ask families of those who died despite attending their healing programs to come out?

They only focus on the few who can claim to healed and they totally ignore those who where not healed.

Before you claim god heals, compare the stats

MANY PASTORS AND DOCTORS SHOULD BE IN PRISON LIKE THESE MEN
It is appaling and astonishing that so-called Medical doctors still prescribe faith to heal issues and even claim that some infirmity are a result of sin, witchcraft or demons
This is most especially true in Nigeria where many Doctors are either Christians or muslims. Lazy and unprofessional. Not worthy of any echelon in the science world, these halfbacked doctors (raw and crude infact) end up having the lives of many entrusted to them. It is no news that many doctors especially the christians would endup recommending prayers or claiming a disease must be a of spiritual origin.
These so called doctors have neglected professionalism and employ supersition which has lead to the death of many.
Unfortunately many of them escape from the law as many deaths are not investigated and thus their deadly practice goes unnoticed and unpurnished.
How About the many pastors who chant . "WHOSE REPORT WOULD YOU BELIEVE! BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD ABOVE WHAT THE DOCTOR SAYS!"
AFTER HEARING SUCH, MANY WHO ARE ILL WOULD LEAVE THEIR MEDICATION AND INSTEAD FOLLOW THE FAITH WAY HOPING THAT GOD HEALS THEM.

THEY FAIL TO TELL YOU YHAT MANY OF THESE PEOPLE END U;P DEAD!
What about the testimonies?
What testimonies?
Lies, placebo effects, those who got healed from medication but give the glory to God instead? Dont be fooled many are dying.
Here is an article i read online and i believe many more like these should be in the news: Many faith healers are con artists that steal money from sick people. Larry Maxwell was a faith healer arrested by an undercover police officer for claiming to be able to cure AIDS in exchange for $5,000. Joe Alvarez was arrested for charging $100,000 to cleanse people of evil spirits and impurities. Dr. Hobart Freeman was a religious leader that told his congregation to stop taking their medication and instead pray for god to cure them. This led to the deaths of 90 people and Freeman being charged with negligent homicide. Most faith healers who are simply conning people out of their money are never caught because instead healers ask for donations or sell tickets to their events instead of explicitly demanding money in exchange for their healing services.

The remaining faith healers who are not explicitly conning people engage in cooperative magical thinking with their patients in which both the healer and patient believe the treatment works. Even if the healer believes that they actually possess magical powers, they can still cause serious harm. James Arthur Ray‘s healing sweat lodge retreat led to him being was convicted of three counts of negligent homicide from dehydration. The more common harm of faith healers is that after a treatment, patients stop going to doctors or taking their medications. Todd Bentley is a popular faith healer who was banned from touring the United Kingdom because he kicks and punches sickness out of people and he also claimed that the death of a Parliament member was “the Lord’s Justice” at work. After a treatment with him, several people believed that they were cured and stopped seeking treatment. This has led to the deaths of approximately 12 people. Kathryn Kuhlman claimed to heal a woman of her spinal cancer and told her she no longer needed her crutches. The next day the woman did not use her crutches causing her to collapse. She then died of her subsequent injuries from the fall.

Some extreme religious leaders even ask their congregation to stop all medical treatments and give themselves over to God entirely as an act of faith that may persuade God to help them. One of the first modern faith healers, Oklahoman Jack Coe claimed that he could heal the sick and that all medical treatments were useless. Coe was finally stopped from performing his divine miracles when he was arrested for practicing medicine without a license after he advised parents of a child with polio to take off his leg-braces. Removing of the braces caused the boy to be in constant pain. However, the judge dismissed the charges because divine healing is exempt from the law. Not long after the case was dismissed, Jack Coe died of bulbar polio. Below is footage of Coe from the 1950s, at the height of his fame.

Yhese are just a few of instances where faith has lead to deaths that were preventable.

Believe me if god heals we wont have hospitals. After all who wants to spend money when god can heal for free?