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[size=20pt] Reason why the Fabricators of Noah's flood story made the ark size mistake [/size]

They lived in a very primitive time. So-

1. The dimension of 450ft by 75 ft by 45 feet seems very large to them in those days. INFACT the ark of noah is still longer than any modern day ship. So yeah it was a big dimension!
If only they knew it was not still big enough!


2. The story fabricators never imagined there were so many animals around the world. They must have thought it was only the animals in their locality that existed. So it was convenient to say all the animals entered noah's ark.

3. The authors never knew how much water was in the sky, it is just the way people claimed sango is the God of thunder. Yet today over 99% of yorubas have stopped worshiping sango and he has not been able to fight us. Why? Technology. There are lightening arrestors now. Even an airplane can fly through a lightening and nothing will happen to the occupants. So it was easy in the dark ages to cook up fantasies and myths and people believed easily

What is shocking is how many dumb people still exists today! That stories that were told to totally ignorant illiterates still gets the applause and homage of many today.

4. It is very possible there was a great local flood in mesopotemia and that was the origin of this myth.

Tosinex:
REAL ATHEIST DON'T ANALYSE STORIES ABOUT GOD.
Go and find out what real Atheist do and get answers to your quest.

JESUS!!!
What is this!
Is this a tactic to stop us from exposing the foolishness of the bible?

Imagine. So you think we atheists just reject religion without analysis?

We are open minded. We take your bible and use our common sense which you claim God gave us to use in the first place. We don't just claim to be atheists without basis.

This must be the must ignorant thing I have ever heard or read.

THE ARK!
HOW BIG WAS IT?
Could it take 20 million animals of which only about 2 million where insects?

The dimensions of the ark can be found in Genesis 6: 14-15

It wAs 300cubits long = 450ft

50 cubits wide = 75 ft

And 30 cubits high = 45 ft

Floor space is gotten by multiplying LENGTH X Width
= 450 X 75 = 33,750 sq foot of space

Wait a minute!

There was even more space than that! The ark was divided into 3 levels. This will increase floor space
So that is 33,750sq ft X 3 = 101,250 sq foot of space. For animals to stand.

Please how will 20Million animals stand within this small space?

That is 0.005sq ft to each animal!

Ok ok let me help God a little, the insects can hang on the walls all through the trip
So what is the area of the walls?

Side walls will be length X height =450 x 45
= 20,250 sq ft
There will be 2 sides so that is 20,250 X 2

= 40,500 sq ft


Then we have the front and back walls
Which is Width X Height = 75 X 45
3,375 sq ft

Times 2 (for front and back)

3,375 X 2 = 6,750sq foot

So let use see the surface area we can make use of in total
That is

101,250 + 40,500 + 6,750 = 148,500 sq foot of surface area including the walls for the insects to hang on

Ohhhhhhh no!

Noah must have used the roofs too!
Ok the area of each roof was 33,750 and there were 3 roofs
So that is another 101,250 sq ft extra!


HURRAY!!! We are getting more space!


So total area we can use including the 3 floors, 4 walls, and 3 roofs (ignoring the thickness of the timber Noah used and how much space the timber used for bracing the ark must have taken)
We have TOTAL SPACE of 249,750 sq ft

This space divided by 20 million occupants

Each animal gets 0.013 sq ft of space


HOW SMALL IS THIS?

This is a mere 3.9 mm by 3.9 mm! For each animal even after using all the space in the ark including the walls and roof!
That space is even too small for a common house fly.

So the ark was more packed than a can of sardines!

davien:
Hardmirror, excellent analysis.. but I think it would be better sorted out by this simple explanation from the theists mouth.. god did it!

You see when you use your brain to calculate gods handiwork you won't find anything... that is why pastors require you drop your brain at home when you come to them...

it's easier to fool someone who wants to be fooled but harder to convince someone they've been fooled... Christians have been fooled to the extent that anyone trying to convince them otherwise is a fool to them..

The very first page of the Bible is foolish right down to the end but they'll keep mute and shy away from it anytime it's brought up,yet proclaim to offer the only religion that's based on truth.

Not all christians are zombies. Some just never thought of things critically, so my threads have their effects. Many will take a moment to wonder.
Thanks

Busayorafael:
This is what fear does to a person. You're scared someone is questioning what's inside the Bible? So sad.

When you see people foaming in the mouth like he is doing, then you know what they are defending are lies

PENGUINS
[img]http://www.animalia-life.com/image.php?pic=/data_images/penguin/penguin7.jpg[/img]

Penguins are ONLY found in icy regions of the southernmost parts of the earth. Such as Antarctica, southern africa and america and very cold icy islands around this regions.

PLEASE how did Two penguins walk across Africa and the great hot deserts along the way toward mesopotamia where Noah's ark was?

Then after the flood how did they walk back?

Penguins can't fly and only eat fish

What fish were they eating on the journey?

Think...
When you read of obatala and the greek gods, you lAugh at how ridiculous the stories are. Take a moment to think about the origin of the bible and what you hold as truth, how different is it from tales of other religions you laugh at?

The Ridiculous number of animals noah had to save
Noah was to save all the animals on earth.
It is estimated that there are over 7.7 million animal species on earth!

https://www.recreational-turf.wikispaces.com/file/view/insects.jpg/186247141/insects.jpg
Insects alone accounts for about 950,000 of this
Let's take the average weight of an insect to be 10 grammes, that is about 9,500kg and they were taken male and female so that is multiplied by 2 which give 19,000. That is 19tonnes for insects only.
At least 1,900,000 insects were in the ark.
There are 12,000 different species of ants alone!

https://www.upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Rodent_collage.jpg
Over 1,100 different types of rodents ; rats, mice, chimpmunks, rabbits etc
So at least 2,200 rodents were on board



There are 5 species of elephants
So at least 10 elephants were on board

There are over 50 types of goat and sheeps

The list goes on and on

So in the end 7.7 million species on the ark

Unclean animals must be in twos

All birds must be in 7pairs (14 birds)

All clean animals must be in 7 pairs (14 animals)

So this means the number of animals on board must have been over 20 million or even as much as 40 million!!!!

PLease how would 20 million animals breath inside the ark? What will they eat? What happens to their urine and feaces ?

Typing... Continuation
WHEN YOU EXPERIENCE A DEVASTATING FLOOD!

The problem is we don't think, we just believe even before reading.

Before reading the bible you mind is already set to believe that what you are about to read is the word of God.

Truth is ALWAYS truth and will pass all scrutiny excellently

Note that the bible did not say God created extra water. The author must have thought that the sky must be filled with so much water that simply saying it rained for 40 days straight would mean the whole earth would be covered.


That is a whole one month and 10 days all around the world.

Very obvious this was written because the author experienced some days rain and his town got flooded then he must have imagined what 4days and 40 nights rain would cause. So he concluded it would cover all mountains
But there is simply not enough water to achieve this.

INFACT if all the icebergs melted and all water unleashed, geologists say it would only be 61meters above the current sea level.


So why not take a moment and think about this.

Was the bible really from God? With no lies? Can it survive scrutiny as all truth should?

Have you been deceived?

Next I will be talking about the animals

johnydon22:
Rain powerful enough to achieve this in 40 days would at least be gushing at every point with the power of not less than 8 fire water hose of incredible pressure in every drop.

such pressure is enough to melt any stone structure ever built like wax talk more of a wooden boat.

That is a remarkable pointer to the naivete of the primitive minds involved in the drafting of these myths.

Though it's a very colourful, entertaining, eloquent and finely done work of literature.

Chillax I am coming to that

As proven above, there would be a need of 4.5 billion cubic kilometers of water, that is about 4,500,000,000,000,000,000 liters of water

QUESTION 2
where did this water come from?

Oh! The bible gave us the answer, so let's check the where God got all this water from.

Genesis 7:11-12 "11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, on the seventeenth day of the second month—on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened. 12 And rain fell on the earth forty days and forty nights.

This is very very interesting lol. So from the earth springs and rain 4.5billion Cubic kilometers of water fell all within 40 days. Lol

Now good science students and mathematics savies will already see why this is ridiculous.

https://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/global-water-volume-fresh-large.jpg

Above is the proportion of water to earth of the whole earth. (This information is from the united states geological website)
Yes 71% of the surface of the earth is covered by water it does not equal to 71% of the Volume of the earth.

It is just like buying bread that is wrapped in nylon. 100% of the bread is covered, But that nylon cover is ONLY about 2% of the volume of the bread. Got it?

In actual fact, the earth only has a total of 1.3billion cubic kilometers of water when water in the atmosphere, seas, oceans, rivers, lakes, ice-bergs etc are all added up. So where did 4.5 billion extra come from?

[b] what this reveals
This reveals that the story was fabricated by the inventors of the story. They must have observed the amount of water all around, looking at the ocean and mediterean sea and fantasizing that that volume of water must be so great it can cover all mountains.

We are just getting started... Stay tuned

You will find the story of Noah and the Flood in the book of Genesis Chpt 6,7 and 8.

These are the 3 chapters I will be quoting from.

The synopsis of this story is that people became very evil, God regretted creating man, God found Noah to be the only righteous man, God saves Noah and his family by revealing the impending plan to flood the earth. Noah builds ark, rain falls and flood the earth. Noah and his family along with all animals with him survives.

Before we go far, the BIG QUESTION IS, COULD THIS HAVE EVER happened? Could the whole earth be truly covered by water?

GENESIS 7:18-20 "18 The waters rose and increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the water. 19 They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered. 20 The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than fifteen cubits"

Wonderful!

For us to accept this we must Note verse 19 that says the water covers ALL mountains under the heavens INCLUDING mount EVEREST that is 8,800 meters tall!

How much water will be needed for this to be achieved?

CALCULATION
Volume of water above all mountains = (Volume of earth+water above highest peak)V2 - (volume of earth)V1

volume of a sphere, V=4/3πr³.

Radius of the Earth is 6,371KM

V1= 1,083,642,907,017.5 Cubic kilometers

To get V2 we must add the height of the highest peak which is mount Everest(which is 8.8km) to the radius of the earth at sea level.
R2= 6,371 + 8.8 = 6,379.8KM

Using the formula V=4/3πr³.

V2=1,088,139,486,240.6 Cubic Kilometer (which will be the new volume of the earth when totally covered with water)

So the added volume is V2-V1
=4,496,579,223.1 Cubic kilometers of water!

Stay tuned we just got started

[size=32pt] Beware!!! This information is guaranteed to make people with common sense throw their bibles away!!![/size]

THIS IS BASED ON HARDMIRROR'S ANALYSIS of NOAH's ARK and THE GREAT FLOOD

I will be debunking the myth of the great flood and why the story is an absolute gob-snut.
please take your time to follow this thread and you will know how much you have been fooled I will give irrefutable analysis and quote from the bible.

Fasten your seat belt as I take you through the story you think you know but have been reading blindly.

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Reyginus:
But creating caliphates win souls for them isn't it so? They create caliphates to win souls and vice versa. Is this not true?

that is not soul winning at any level

Reyginus:
But Muslims are also mandated to win souls? Theirs has a longer reach. The entire world. What's the difference now?

Seems you don't know the urgency of soul winning in christianity. Islam is more about creating caliphates than winning souls, it's more about the strength in number than the joy in heaven over a saved soul.

HEFAIROHLUWA:
Well.I'm a christain but as a Christian should behave.I will not deny the fact that we Christians nowadays act like a D**k and are really hypocrities even real prophets inclusive but who are you to judge them.

Trust me nature has a way of settling the score.

Just do what is right as a Christian and dont let anyone intimidate or put fear in you.
#I'm not a saint but everyday i'm trying to be one.
#I try to be good not because I was preached to by a prophet but because I love to be good and love to help people

Always remember that Nathaniel was confirmed a good man by even jesus before Jesus died on the cross to save all.
The truth is that Christians or believers confuse each other as in seriously.

May your God bless you my brother. Well said

Reyginus:
Is this part of your initial argument or a new argument? I though it was more about knowing a place like hell but refusing to make awareness?

Oh yes. Other religion don't have a god that asked them to make soul winning their primary life objective. Only christianity has this mandate, but wha and are christians busy doings? They are all pretenders you hardly see christians making sacrifices to save souls. The big me prin of god are only using alter calls to garnish their primary interest of money. The congregation too are all about money. In the Acts of Apostles, people were not trying to be rich, they were selling all they had so that there would be no lack in the church, but what do you see today? It is all about "baba god o, emi na fe wa range, dangote o lori meji..."

louismane:
galantis is better than all dese electronuc artists yall mentioned here....
galantis.. you
galantis....runaway(you and i)
galantis... smile
galantis...if you need me
galantis...no money

I have listened to all the above songs even have them on my Phone. Galantis is great, you and I and No Money were sensational, but check all top lists of EDM you can't see galantis there, he does not have the wow factor. Listen to Cinema by Skrillex, or Ten Foot Tall by Afrojack, or hey brother by Avicii. Astronomia by vicetones, their flows are just unique. Listen to stereo love by Edward Maya, (edward is not that good but I stereo love was just epic, how he did it I don't know) or animals by Martin Garrix. Scary Monsters and Strobes by Skrillex


I repeat, Galantis is one of the best but please don't say he is better that those I listed. Those are legends in the EDM and Dj culture. Google up the top 100 EDM DJs and read their achievements. Skrillex has 6 grammies! He is just dope, he is dope himself, skrillex is a drug you will get hooked up to once you start listening to his songs

Note that I agree with you that galantis is fantastic but my only disagreement is saying he is better than all the rest.

Ranchhoddas:
In the quest for truth, people are always moving from point to point-Unbelief to belief and vice-versa. There was a story on the frontpage not long ago of 104 christians that became converted to Islam in one swoop. You and I know the story of a certain pastor called Hardmirror... So what pray tell is the point of this thread?

There are hundreds of well established pastors, evangelists etc who ended up being atheist. All I can say is, I sought the God with all my heart, I tried real hard not to give up on all the years of my assumed relationship with God, but in the end I had to yield to reason (common sense) for to believe in God, you have to allow your emotions make decisions for you and not your common sense.

Reyginus:
Mr HardMirror, are Christians the only Religious people who believe in a Hell Fire or Place of Damnation?

Absolutely not sir. There are lots of religions that believe in an eternal place of torment that fits the description of the biblical hell. But only christians believe someone has paid the price for salvation from hell.

Edelweiss44:
The book of Psalms Chapter 14 verse 1 gives a perfect description of you. That verse of the bible clearly states what God thinks of you.

Usually, before people decide to become atheists, their senses have departed from them......and they don't even know it, they still think they are just normal human beings! The devil is now in custody of their senses and is just using them as very cheap pawns to further his wicked goal of taking as many human beings to hell with him.

Imagine you, a supposedly "enlightened" human being asking the kind of foolish questions up there? Even if you hate God and have decided to end up in hell like satan, and you want to argue things about God, you could at least have used intelligent points or questions to make your argument. You should be ashamed that you are asking a question like this as an educated person you claim to be.

I still can't believe that with your claimed level of intelligence, if you were tasked 4,000years ago to deliver a message that should last for as many generations as possible in writing to the human race, you would actually choose to to start speaking in a language that not everyone in your generation would understand? So if God had started putting his word/bible in a tablet or ipad as far back as 4,000years ago when humans had not yet invented any such thing, then how do you expect humans of that time to be able to relate with what God was saying? Ok.....if God had used ipads as far back as then, and today we have ipads which means people in this generation would fortunately be able to relate, have you now thought about what will happen to people of the future generation who may transcend the ipad technology and use something far better and different? Does it occur to you that no matter the level of technological development that has occured over the generations from thousands of years ago, BOOKS STILL REMAIN RELEVANT! God already knew this as far back as thousands of years ago, and that was why He chose to keep his words to humanity in books! That way, all generations, including past, present and future can easily relate to it irrespective of technological advancements.

May i also add this; humans did not INVENT writing and books, God created them both and humans only discovered them! There were already books in heaven before man was created. Stop fooling yourself with lies!

And who told you God has need of ipads in heaven? God likes to keep records in heaven, and He can use whatever means He chooses to achieve that; books or ipads, it doesn't matter! what matters is that records are kept and your records will be kept for you till the day of judgement when it will dawn on you that God has a record of everything you did on earth from the day you were born, and if you are not saved and your sins washed by the blood of Jesus, you will find yourself in hell where you will pay for your sins for eternity without hope of ever coming out. I wonder if by that time you will still be preoccupied with denying God's existence and debating why there are books in heaven instead of ipads.

If you will not repent of your sins and open your eyes to God's love for you expressed in the price Jesus paid for your salvation by giving his life for you, then you have no reason whatsoever to fault God when you end up in hell. God is just as much as He is merciful, and that is why every sin has to be paid for. The only question is DO YOU WANT TO PAY FOR YOUR SINS BY YOURSELF IN HELL OR DO YOU WANT TO ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AND RECEIVE HIS ALREADY MADE PAYMENT FOR SINS FREELY GIVEN TO THOSE WHO WILL BELIEVE IN HIM? The choice is yours! God can only advice you, but He will never impose the right decision on you.

Are you through?

mu2sa2:
This is this week's episode from the "men of god"! Fingers crossed for next week's.

Na seasonal movie, episode by episode. Next week could be a pastor that impregnated his mother.

Efewestern:
So you do visit Entertainment section, i thought All ur life is in Religious section, Attacking Christians and GOD, as if u and God na mate.. #BEcarefulBro#

Well happy sunday, Good to see u here.. How re you?

I am good o.
Yeah I love good music, I mean Gooooood music not hyped bull crap.

Very informative. Don't know why everyone is hyping wizkid, he is trying but he aint a legend yet. Being featured by american acts is fantastic for his career, but it's not a statement that he would be a music icon of academic or historical relevance.
Sunny ade,
Fela,
Sikiru adepoju,
Victor owiafo,
Raskimo,
Onyeka owenu
And maybe Tu face, are the real Nigerian icons.

rummeh:
Are you a blogger??

No I am not. I am an engineer

rummeh:
I will

Ok bro. Nice meeting you sir

nobilis:
LOL.
Who exactly is the "you" you're referring to in that post?
U just assumed I have a religious affiliation.

Do not make silly and hasty assumptions. It is unbecoming.


Back to the issue at hand.
That Jehovah's Witnesses do no have the kind of flaws other christian denominations have does not make them better.
Jehovah's Witnesses have their own peculiar issues and problems. Mark my word, peculiar.

I don't know if you have but if you haven't, I'll advise you to calm down and carry out a thorough and in-depth study and analysis of Jehovah's Witnesses, their history, their organisation and their beliefs.

All Christian denominations are the same: flawed, but claiming to be perfect; each believing to solely possess the keys to the kingdom of heaven; and each believing that all the others are going to hell.

They are not only better than most christian denominations I know, they are better than most religious bodies I know. Yeah they are greatly flawed and I can never join them but as our society stands, they are better than the money worshipers that call themselves christians

rummeh:
Electronic beats drives me crazy

For crazy try and listen to sandstorm by Da rude. U will dance like craze 100% guaranteed
Animals by Martin Garrix is also dope

rummeh:
Electronic beats drives me crazy

I got loads of them. For downloads try musicpleer.com very fantastic site

Please try and listen to stereo love, it is oddly addictive. Topped the charts for years after it's release in 2009. Was the club banger all over europe and the United States.

Not very energetic, but the beat is crazily sweet.

rummeh:
I love DM GALAXY PARALYZED

Try and download "Stereo love" by edward maya And "ten feet tall" by afrojack and "the nights" by Avicii