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HERSLEY:
Come and fry na... Bring better oil come cuz my kponmo dry well well

Jesuuuuu kristi!
What I saw made my chairman rise one time. Kilode?

I am bewildered at how a supposed religion of love and compassion finds it convenient to shout "praise God!" When others perish

cloudgoddess:
I think the difference is that the atheist will openly acknowledge that his fortune was indeed a matter of pure luck. That it could've been him in the unfortunate situation, and it was merely chance that made it otherwise.

But when one introduces God into the picture, it very much implies that they were intentionally favored in a way that an atheist would probably never claim to be. Suggesting that somehow, the supposed creator of the universe chose to prioritize their lives or happiness over that of others.

I think the non-God perpective makes room for (but of course, does not necessarily guarantee) a more humble sense of gratitude, as well as compassion on the part of those who were not so fortunate. Whereas the "God did this for ME" perspective is more likely to breed self-centeredness and disconcern for the misfortune of others.

Well said.

orunto27:
It's like a Plane Crash in which all the Passengers including a Pregnant woman died and only the baby that was forcifully delivered was saved. God has just delivered "A Lot out of Sodom and Gomorrah" and demonstrated His Wonders before our very eyes. Praise God!!

Exactly. It's all good so far our selfish selves are spared.

winner01:
Chai, atheists ehn ..See how they turned "give thanks in all things" to "give thanks over the misfortune of others".
Lol Op, whatever the christian sister told you is hers and yours alone. We give thanks not because of the misfortune of others but because God deserves out thanks no matter the circumatance.
Plus, this issue has been dealt with before, why recycle such DOA threads in your bid to defame christianity.? Are you out of ideas?

That scripture makes sense when you are giving thanks to God for your own misfortune, not that of other people.
My message is clear to the discerning minds.

flamingREED:
So, where did the water of today's earth come from?

From the moon or some natural/abstract interaction?

If Christians believe that God created water - whose origin you can't explain,
Then why do you think we'll feel awful to think that that same God flooded the earth with water?

The scripture records that the fountains of the deep were broken up: In other words, the water that submerged the entire earth didn't need to descend from the clouds at iron-shattering velocities, but simply both as rain and aquatic upsurge.

Nevertheless, if Christ could multiply five loaves and two fishes geometrically; what science can't can't simulate; then I think that Jehovah Jireh can submerge the whole earth with just a glass of water

This is the best answer I have gotten so far. I kept laughing at the christians trying to twist science anmd bible into agreeing with the flood myth.
Thanks for being your humble self jare.

winner01:
Hundreds of thousands of people have made this claim, now and in the past. Christians, muslims, Atheists and several others.
Its either they are all lying or telling the truth. But one thing is certain, "they all cant be crazy."

Hundreds of thousands have made claims of reincarnation. Does this not contradict the bible? Does that make their compelling and evidence based testimonies lie?

Those who claim reincarnation usually have evidences.
Those who claim to have died and seen Jesus usually have no evidence.

Who should we believe?

malvisguy212:
If she advice you to thank God for His blessing, does it mean she is at the same time laughing at the misfortune of others ? It is because your heart is mischievous and harden that is why you see it this way. Atheists will always look for a way to blame God for suffering. So if we disobey God, is God fault ?

So those suffering disobeyed God?
Why should I use the fact that others are suffering as a point in thanking God?
Is that not like glouting over them?

emerged01:
1 thess 5 vs 18 says give thanks in all circumstances......

By rejoicing over the misfortunes of others? By using their unfortunate circumstance to make yourself seem special?

Please I want to know why Christians come to church and give testimonies about the misfortunes of other people and use it to thank God for their own lives.

E.g you were in a vehicle and several people died and you were part of the few that survived. Then you go to church and praise God for sparing you while others died.

What is the point?

I told a christian sister that I am bothered that Millions don't have food to eat around the world and she said it is really none of my business that I should just thank God for my own life and having food to eat.

I am trying to make sense of this Christian practice.

Cc Lalasticlala, seun

Ranchhoddas:
I mean the differences in skin colour. Caucasians, Indians, Africans, Asians etc.

Get ready for disjointed explanations

PraiseDLord:
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV
http://bible.com/1/1co.1.18.KJV

What else were you expecting paul to say? I can also make claim that those that don't believe in the spaghetti monster are fools.
That's a perfect way of keeping people brainwashed. So you turn wisdom and common sense to foolishness. Saying god has hidden his ways from the wise.
So whenever you are confronted with valid questions that exposes the foolishness of your belief, you quickly say that it's god's will that the wise don't know his ways.
Hence you remain in your foolishness with pride.

braithwaite:
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Been busy for a while.. but thanks to cloudgoddess,hard mirror and lot who keep sharing would have bn missing lots of luaghs..

Op you know am just tired and confused why Christians think their religion some kind of precious gem outta thier damn damnation or whatever they believe on...christains are highly sceptical and critical in thier cases, place their religion in a special niche that stands above question and criticism. They often bend over backwards to defend their beliefs and explain away all inconsistencies, while they cherry pick the parts of their religion they, themselves gree with.isn't that a kind of cheat to humanity.. and they keep out the lies.. just to win more souls..

It's like they have this fully equipped toolbox of critical faith and divinity, that they use fluently and skillfully in every relinquishn matters. But they refuse to use these tools on their thinking.which they can't hold their believe structure to the same standards of evidence that they apply elsewhere.

Faith is like a black hole of irrationality, that bends reason around itself. It's like there's an area of their brain where critical thinking is completely suspended. The logic of the believer becomes warped and strange when closing in on the subject of divinity.

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And again to that shy believer who's bidding farewell to nairaland..unique04 ....don't be sacred to preach against such scrutiny your religion find itself this days..if your faith doesn't work anymore.. just think.. guess your God shouldn't damn you for such act.


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Off topic. How can we talk offline. Can I send you a PM?

Image123:
You contradict your OP which says there's nothing special about Christianity while spending a major part of your life and interactions worried to death about the Christian faith. Don't talk at all so as to reduce the concentration of foolery in the air.

Yoiu just love my attention

joyandfaith:
You can find penguins in captivity in every continent, however all known species of penguins live naturally in the southern hemisphere. Contrary to general belief, Penguins do not live only in extremely cold conditions. Outside Antarctica, Penguins usually inhabit desertic regions and rocky islands where there are not a large number of land predators, so their incapacity to fly is not an issue.
Their habitat range from the ice shelf on Antarctica, like the emperor penguin, to some temperate islands near the equator, like the Galapagos penguin. Also, there are penguins living in South Africa and Australia.

So why can't we find some penguins in the northern hemisphere? At least the distance is shorter than going all the way to the south. Do you know how many years it would take a clumpsy penguin to walk to the southern hemisphere? It would have reproduced so much that many penguins would have gone north instead and some even stay back in Mesopotemia. How come no kangaroos in africa even though they would thrive well here?

Rick9:
I like turn down for what

Nice And the video is BAAAARHHHD!

mcyemite:
can you help me on that?and please hw much does a blue whale weighs.?

There are several explanations to that. The one that makes sense to me is ; this animals evolved from their parent gene source that must have migrated to these different locations when the continents were all linked. They evolved in isolation from other parts of they world ant that is why you would only find penguins towards the south pole and polar bears towards the north pole no penguin at the northern hemisphere even though the environment is conducive for them. This shows they must have evolved in isolation in regions around the south hemisphere.
Makes more sense to me

mcyemite:
kangaroo,kiwi,frizzled lizard can only be found in australia,african elephants only in africa,american eagle,cougar in america.

How did they get there?
AND where were they during the flood?

Image123:
Lol, even a fellow atheist sees the OP is contradicting himself.

Do you know what contradict even means?
He was only asking me to spread my love to islam too. Don't be quick to talk when you don't understand what you read.

hahn:
Actually, ALL religions are based on faith. It takes "faith" to believe a man lives in the sky. It takes faith to believe in ridiculous stories and characters like talking snakes, flying chariots, dragons, unicorns, virgin births and other senseless crap.

There are 33,000+ denominations in Christianity. Jehovah witnesses will guarantee that Redeem members are going to hell because they do not teach the "word of god". Lord's chosen members are cock sure, pun intended, that Christ embassy members are going to hell. Probably because of Oyakhilome's Jerry curl and his wave in this picture

https://surestakes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/pastor-chris-oyakhilome-london-private-jet.jpg



Or maybe, the fact the Jesus' alleged virgin birth. In that case, they should read excerpts from this article



Still on the matter!

That is just it. Makes me wonder why they feel other religions are lying even tho they are all based on myths and legends.

Thashen:
[color=#000000] [b] The number of animals in the ark were not as many as you think. The problem is that you misinterpret what the bible says.

When referring to animal groups and such , it uses the word ' kind '. .. ' ' animals , creeping things ' male and female ' according to their kind '

Does ' kind ' mean species ? Or does it mean genus ? A group of similar species is a genus . Or does ' kind ' mean family ? A group of similar genera is a family. Family including dogs,wolves,foxes,jackals,coyotes, and similar animals .

Biological families number in thousands, not in millions .

So, the number of animals that could have been in the ark would have been less than 16000 assuming that a biblical kind is equivalent to the group of animals we call a genus .

2000 animals if the biblical kind is equivalent to the family grouping .


Also , many animals did not need to be on the ark for survival. And by the latter i'm making reference fo sea animals. Sea animals could survive a flood.

Million of the one million species of the insects could probably survive without being on the ark.


So the animals would have been easily housed in small enclosures because most animals are small.

Even the large animals you mentioned above began their lives small. In picking creatures to repopulate the earth,it would make more sense to choose those that were young and healthy rather than the older big ones.

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Thashen:
[color=#000000] [b] The number of animals in the ark were not as many as you think. The problem is that you misinterpret what the bible says.

When referring to animal groups and such , it uses the word ' kind '. .. ' ' animals , creeping things ' male and female ' according to their kind '

Does ' kind ' mean species ? Or does it mean genus ? A group of similar species is a genus . Or does ' kind ' mean family ? A group of similar genera is a family. Family including dogs,wolves,foxes,jackals,coyotes, and similar animals .

Biological families number in thousands, not in millions .

So, the number of animals that could have been in the ark would have been less than 16000 assuming that a biblical kind is equivalent to the group of animals we call a genus .

2000 animals if the biblical kind is equivalent to the family grouping .


Also , many animals did not need to be on the ark for survival. And by the latter i'm making reference fo sea animals. Sea animals could survive a flood.

Million of the one million species of the insects could probably survive without being on the ark.


So the animals would have been easily housed in small enclosures because most animals are small.

Even the large animals you mentioned above began their lives small. In picking creatures to repopulate the earth,it would make more sense to choose those that were young and healthy rather than the older big ones.

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Ok, I even like your approach. Far more sensible than the nonsense others have been presenting. I appreciate your wisdom.

At what point did the original family members of these animal groups evolve to yield the millions of species we have today. Don't forget that MILLIONS (not thousands) of species are even unknown to us today because they are extinct. So where did all these animals come from?
At what point did humans evolve (not mutate) to yield all the unique races we have.
I say evolve because mutation could be detrimental in over 90% of mutants and most mutants die off, most mutants are usually sterile. So we are looking at progressive mutation that would have ensured survival of the offsprings. Could this happen within 5000 years?
Is 5000 years enough to stabilize human mutation to the extent that a white man always gives birth to a caucasian baby and a negro always gives birth to a negro baby proving a stability in the evolutionary process. Did this happen within 5000 years?
All the varient species of every animalia genus, did they evolve and attain perfection within 5000 years?

Why don't we find fossils of animals such as the madagasca lemur, penguins, marsupials and other animals found only on islands, we don't we find their fossils or living variants in asia and the middle-east where the events of Genesis happened?

Awaiting your intelligent response as you have done so far.

Thank you

neocortex:
If you "saw" the above and you kept quiet , then something is definitely wrong.
Thousands of terminal cancer patients take dangerous substances including
acids and heavy metals all in a bid to get a cure while you know a sure cure
and you kept mum.

the same for the so called fake miracles churches claim. They are all nothing but misleading claims

jayriginal:
^^^

Faith.

Hundreds of religion are faith based including the popular islam.

Millerz:
Lastchild

I have the answer to your problems. Don't mind baba11 and the other fools who said the Christian God has failed you. No! You just haven't haven't gone about it the right way. I have directed someone on this forum who went to the said place and got his deliverance.

You will not be an exception.

His problem is psychological.

Hypnosis may help "deliver" him.

A pastor, imam or psychologist that is good in hypnosis is what he needs.
He has to be put in a right state of mind.

I would have helped but it won't work again since he already knows what I want to do.

It can only work under the guise of something he believes in.

malvisguy212:
i ask you this question in the other thread, but you did not reply me, have you confess your sin to the pastor? Anything you have that belong to the kingdom of darkness, you have to burn it, money or whatever it is.

I was born into paganism,a muslim barground, but today am saved, i remember when i accepted jesus christ,i saw a demon one night,i say to him,"who are you?"what do you want?" the demon did not say anything, then i say to the demon, get out from my place,
the demon walk backward close to a wall,something apper in the demon back like a tunnel , endless tunnel, the demon go through the tunnel until he vanish.since that night, i never see demon again.

You cant cast out demon with the help of a demon, but fell free to make a mistake,i pray God set you free in the name of jesu christ.

Oshey!!!
Nollywood!

demiladegold:
you don't need to fry or bake except you want to make the sharwamma wraps yourself.. . in that case, you would need a recipe for making the wraps...... but if you are using already made tortilla wraps then you don't need to bake or fry.

I'll drop a link to the video here, so everybody can use it too

Sweeet!
Now when ever a lady asks for sharwamma she will have to make it in my house
Thanks for sharing.
Lalasticlala, seun come and learn how to make sharwamma.

YES! Again I am addressing christianity.


[size=24pt]WHY THERE IS NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT CHRISTIANITY[/size]

Christianity is just like a beautiful Lady. Beautiful ladies seem special but the thing about them is there are many of them. Yes, indirectly, there is nothing special about a beautiful lady. There are millions that would substitute her perfectly.

What makes christianity special?

1. Promise of after life. Oh! There are hundreds of other religions that have a promise of after life.


2. Claims of miracles. EVERY religion has claims of miracles even more profound than that of christianity.

3. Proof of after life. People claiming to have seen heaven and Jesus and hell. Well truth is other religions also have people who testify of their own verSion of after life. Even reincarnation has a lot of astonishing testifiers who claim they are reincarnated and they would give you evidences that are real unlike that of those who claim to have been to christian heaven.

4. Morals and doctrines. That is what all traditions are based on. Many religions have very good moral instructions.

5. Spiritual Father. Thousands of religions have spiritual father figures they pray to and believe in his protection and provision.

6. Peace and happiness. Ohhh! So many adherents of other religions have peace and are happy with their lives.

Why do we reject other religions and claim christianity is the best?

When you thinks about it deeply you would realize we are just celebrating vanity, making something common seem special.


It is just the way Lord's Chosen members try to make everyone they meet believe that it's only in Chosen that you will find God.

Everyone is trying to be special


So I throw it open. What else makes your religion the only true way?

Thashen:
[color=#000000] According to Genesis 6: 15,The Ark measured 300 x50 x30 cubits which is about 140 x23 x13.5 metres or 459 x75x 44 feet, so its volume was 43, 500 m 3 ( cubic metres ) or 1.54 million cubic feet .

So even if a million insect species had to be on board , it wouldn't be an issue, because insects require little space . If each pair was kept in cages of 10 cm ( four inches ) per side , or 1000 cm 3 , all the insect species would occupy a total volume of only 1000 m 3 , or another 12 cars. [/color]

Do you know how many animals that are cow like in existence?
The Gnu, American Buffalo, Cape Buffalo, Yak, and so many more. There must be over thousand animals the size of cows. there are over 4000 mammalian families. There are 5 distinct species (not breeds) of elephants very unique. There are tens of horse like animals. There are hundreds of Wild cats. Even tigers have different species. It is estimated that when you remove fishes and insects you will be left with about 5million unique species of animals. We have millions of bird species and God asked noah to take 7 pairs of all birds. Birds alone will be over 10 million individuals in the ark. At the end it is certain that the animals in the ark will be a whooping 40million individuals. The 20million I used was just so I would be moderate and fair.
To feed all this animals you need thousands of tonnes of food. To last them the over 4 months they were in the ark.

How about caring for them?

How about oxygen?

Guess you have never kept birds before. They die very easily. How will they not suffocate there?

Oh it was a miracle.

I repeat, why do we give excuses for the bible and say we should not use our common sense when it comes to the bible, but once we hear the myths of other religions and traditions we laugh at how stupid they sound. Why?

It is because our minds have been impressed with this indoctrination.
It is like a tradition now and we all protect our identity. That is why we protect our religions.

You excuse a lot just to keep your identity

Thashen:
[color=#000000] They ate the food God commanded Noah to bring onto the Ark!

In Genesis 1:29-30 God told Noah to bring all food that is eaten aboard the Ark for himself, his family and the animals. Note: Originally man and the animals ate plants! [/color]

This is interesting so at what point did the digestive system of carnivores change and why? Why do carnivores have large canines that are suited only for killing prey?

Very convenient for you to make unfounded claims just to defend your belief. The chinese believe Panku made the earth from an egg. How will you feel seeing them making excuses to prove that that myth is true?
How will you feel when Yorubas start making excuses to prove that Obatala dropped from heaven with a snail shell filled with sand and a chicken. He poured the sand on the earth covered with water and dropped the chicken to spread the sand around the world. How does that myth sound to you?
But a strong yoruba traditionalist will tell you that all nations came from Oduduwa.
Are the stupid to believe the things they believe?
Think!

Image123:
This ignorance has already been explained in this post. The ark is said to be two times higher/taller than the highest mountain. Also, those number of species remain a fabrication of an inebriated mind. Not forgetting the fact that today's number of species are more than the number of species that existed 300years ago. This is basic science i thought.

Gen 7:20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
Gen 6:15 And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.

For someone that says a water of 15 cubits covered all mountains, how shall I ever take you serious? I know you have been wailing and mentioning me so many times and always disappointed that I don't give you attention. This is the very reason. You aint just that bright and worthy of a discussion.
Read what you just posted. It makes sense to you because you are desperate to do away with your common sense and ready to call black with if it would prove your god right. 15 cubit tall mountain. Wonderful!

knowyaself3:
Have been following some of your posts and they're very logical.kudos! But, im afraid, you seem not to be open-minded enough to see the whole picture. Beleiving that the supernatural doesnt exist because you saw through the lies in xtianity and other similar religions, is being clever by half. What we have in most popular religions are twisted versions of spirituality, replete with lies and contracdictions of which practice is nothing but stupidity. There's no such stupidity in the practice of pure occult. Most authorities i know in the occult and satanism were once athiests, and im surprised that as intelligent as most athiest are, it takes some of them ages to see the reality of the occult. Keep studying and questioning and dont make the mistake of beleiving you have seen it all; i'm certain in time you will see these spiritual truths for yourself and become well-rounded. Cheers

Ok thanks.
We are all on a journey of enlightenment

Pushas:
Why is EDM not popular in Nigeria/Africa

And we have good sound engineers and producers. Perhaps it's too synthetic for our traditional taste