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johnydon22:
You owe nobody any explanation, simply ignore such side irrelevant talks and continue your story

True that jare

simplex2:
If you read the thread a nairalander did on his experience at PST Chris healing school, you won't be surprised at the drama called miracle.

**here's the thread**



https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school

All lies, big fat lies. You can't pray for 100 people and not discover the glaring lies. Either you become honest with your self or you resort to deceiving people.

Continuation...
To be honest, my strength in the Lord started waxing cold. Something was seriously wrong, I began to wonder, "what has god really done for me?"
Early in the morning, I would take strolls from oba kekere to Oba nla usually from AM or stroll from Apatapiti to futa Junction and back to Futa south gate, praying in spirit, searching my soul for answers.
I was deeply troubled. My mind was fighting all the indoctrinations I had from childhood.

My parents were never christians and did not go to church when I was young.

I recall around 1995 when I watched a movie about Jesus christ (I don't know the title) and how much he suffered and eventually died for our sins. It was on an easter day.
I remember how me my sister and brother all ended up crying, seriously crying and asking God to forgive us our sins. That was the day I got born again. It was a deeply emotional day. I remember that our parent were not at home.
We cried and cried all lying on the floor.

The movie was a touching one, seeing a man suffer so much and at the end of the movie there was a little sermon. Even though I was young, I understood the movie.

I could not just abandon the faith, I had to fight to keep it alive. So from being a leader in my fellowship, I humbled myself and left the fellowship to join the Life Oasis Church (Dream Center) in Akure. The year was 2011.
Then Pastor Charlse was the man Pastor Olusola areogun sent to establish the church in Akure.

I believed I needed to retrace my step and be a student of the bible to regain my conviction of faith.

I became a student and disciple under Pastor charlse. The church was behind Chicken republic Futa Junction.

I remember being taught fundamental things as if I was never a giant in the works of the spirit, but all that did not matter to me. All I wanted was to fall in love with christ all over again. I wanted to be taught like a child again.

I must confess pastor charlse was a great teacher. I remember how he opened his home to us and how much time he spent with us sharing the word of God with us. Nuturing us. This was despite him being a medical doctor and barely having enough time for himself and family, yet he gave it all for us.

Despite all this, here I am, a none believer. And a proud one.

This was the last effort I made to save my faith, but once you know the truth, telling lies to yourself becomes ridiculously hard. It was not working. The god of the bible remained as fake as fake could be.

https://www.nairaland.com/3085047/part-2-pastor-atheist-why/2#45340786

sonofthunder:
So then, we may no longer be children, tossed [like ships] to and fro between chance gusts of teaching and wavering with every changing wind of doctrine, [the prey of] the cunning and cleverness of [c]unscrupulous men, [gamblers engaged] in every shifting form of trickery in inventing errors to mislead.

15Rather, let our lives lovingly [d]express truth [in all things, speaking truly, dealing truly, living truly]. Enfolded in love, let us grow up in every way and in all things into Him Who is the Head, [even] Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One).

16For because of Him the whole body (the church, in all its various parts), closely joined and firmly knit together by the joints and ligaments with which it is supplied, when each part [with power adapted to its need] is working properly [in all its functions], grows to full maturity, building itself up in love.

17So this I say and solemnly testify in [the name of] the Lord [as in His presence], that you must no longer live as the heathen (the Gentiles) do in their perverseness [in the folly, vanity, and emptiness of their souls and the futility] of their minds.

18Their [e]moral understanding is darkened and their reasoning is beclouded. [They are] alienated (estranged, self-banished) from the life of God [with no share in it; this is] because of the ignorance (the want of knowledge and perception, the willful blindness) that is [f]deep-seated in them, due to their hardness of heart [to the insensitiveness of their moral nature].

19In their spiritual apathy they have become callous and past feeling and reckless and have abandoned themselves [a prey] to unbridled sensuality, eager and greedy to indulge in every form of impurity [that their depraved desires may suggest and demand].

20But you did not so learn Christ!

So the Holy Spirit could not tell you I have been speaking the truth all along so why should I take you serious? You must be dull in the spirit or you don't even have the holy spirit at all. So much for being a christian. You are still operating on human wisdom and guessing your way thru life.

sonofthunder:
you still don't believe its fictional?

Lol
You guys just keep amusing me.
This story is 100% true. Azo I mentioned in part one surprisingly showed up later in the thread we exchanged mails and he gave me his current phone number and we spoke. We would be meeting at ikeja soon.
The brother dan I mention now is a missionary in india. He is a son to Rev ogundare and he studied electrical electronics. Rev ogundare is based in akure and has his house at Futa south gate and he is very popular. Many futarians have sent me PMs and we have spoken. All this happened between 2007 and 2012. 100% verifiable.

johnydon22:
More like a low budget amateur nollywood film, i sometimes wonder if folks submit their brains at the entrance before entering the synagogue.

I mean how can they not just see these circus shows and cheap unconvincing scams...

Baffles me

How dare you call our prophet a low budget actor?
He is the best in the industry and one of the richest. Let's promote our own.

johnydon22:
Surely, i wonder how people can also watch T.B Joshua circus shows with a straight face

Lol. That guy is a 5 star actor. The best Nigeria ever produced

Alfamann:
The show you watched was not meant for intelligent people.

Hehehehe
Damn!
But we were all fools and gullible in our younger years. Can't believe how much I believed god was a miracle working god and all those crusades and books I read

kolawaxxy:
You don't need to add salt and pepper to this story. The unnecessary informations and digressions make this story sound like a fiction

Not at all

Lilbrown007:
HOPE THIS NO GO RESULT TO PART3 AGAIN

Haba! No o.
But if I were to tell all my key experience we will get to part 500.

Pr0ton:
In.. nice story so far.

Thanks and I hope you see the lessons there in. These are my discoveries and the falsehood I was seeped in from childhood.

urahara:
FRONT PAGE , FRONT PAGE , FRONT PAGE


This kind of explains a lot. I have a neighbour who is deaf and dumb but can still manage to pronounce words
Like one . two. Three . come. Go.

Now funny enough in the healing services i have attended when the man of god prays for the deaf and dumb and when they keep on saying d few word they are able to say, the man of god , and the rest of the gullible church members including me would take this as a divine miracle.i Never ever could see thru dis sham

Exactly!

It is all a sham

Continuation...

The Moment of truth!

We were really excited.
It got to their turn and the man of God laid hads on them prayed for them and they left the line to return to their sit. Excitedly I and Bro. Daniel (not real name) quickly drew them aside. Took them to a corner were no one would hear what we were discussing.

The boy was very excited to see us as he made attempts to make works like a baby still learning to speak. We also responded to his excitement smiling and emotional. "Oh what a wonderful God!" "Thank you Jesus for bringing us down here and changing this boys life!"
I could almost cry at that moment.

Then my attention shifted to the parent. The dad really had a confused look on his face, the mum was smiling and excited, she could see that her boy had made new friends. University guys that are men of God are her little boy's friend. She was excited and eager to hear what we had to say.
We greeted them and the replied warmly. Now straight to business.

"Was your boy dumb?" I asked
The dad's countenance dropped and he replied, "yes, he is dumb. That was how he was born."

Oh so indeed he was dumb. Hmmmm... So this miracle is real.

"So have you noticed any change in him today?"

The man looked at his boy, looked at his wife then looked at me. Then looked back at his wife as if searching for a clue for the right answer.

"We prayed for him and he can speak now" my partner bro. Dan said.

"Ehen?... Oya Bayo soro." The dad squirted so he could be at the same level with his boy.
We all joined him to encourage the boy to speak so his parents could hear.

He started speaking, "beh, beh beh, boo boo, beh beh."

I looked at the dad. The dad responded that that was all the boy could say since he was a baby and now he is about 12 years old and has not said any new word.

But this were the exact words this boy was saying to us and we assumed God had loosened his tongue and the only problem was since he had never spoken before, he was trying to learn how to repeat the words "baba" which we asked him to repeat after us.

This boy was as dumb as dumbo. We concluded and still insisted that God had healed him and they should just keep repeating words to him and he would eventually catch up.

For 5 days we spent in that village, the boy never spoke a new word. Even babies don't take that long to learn new words once they gain control of their tongues.

We left the village with our stupidity still praising God for that sham miracle.

It's now that I can be honest with myself and confess that God did nothing for that boy. We were so delusional that we kept giving excuses in God's advantage at every turn.

Remember samson Ayorinde's crusade? I flash back and I recall that all his miracles were also shams. Those dumb people were all dumb and remain dumb.

If you stay in osogbo around Capital area, you will know a man called Odi (word for deaf in yoruba).
The guy was at that sham crusade, till date the guy is still dumb and deaf!

Osogbo is not that big. If 50 people got back their eye sites and got back their ability to speak, we would all know.

Can anybody name anyone that genuinely got healed at that crusade or Rev. Reinhard Bonkke's crusade? There is NONE. So where are all the people they claimed they healed?

continued here: https://www.nairaland.com/3085047/part-2-pastor-atheist-why/2#45321010

francis247:
Would you care to elaborate on the bolded?

Read updates here for the story of the dumb boy I prayed for and spoke.
www.nairaland.com/3085047/part-2-pastor-atheist-why#45300895

urahara:
MY FADA MY FADA,

ANY FOUL SPIRIT OF DELAY IN TELLING LIFE STORIES, IN THE BODY OF HARD MIRROW, I COMMAND YOU TO DIE BY FIRE , DIE , DIE , DIE , FALL DOWN AND DIE IN JESUS NAME!!!!!!!

AMEN!!!!!!!!

Continuation....
I got back to the camp ground and activities were still same there. The brethren were praying mostly in tongues, the preacher was still busy with the witches, the witches were still performing their signature dance showing that that holy ghost fire was really roasting the demons in them, people were still praying and onlookers were still looking and enjoying the entertainment from the fringes of the crusade ground. Mostly men.

I even spotted a group of men sitting and drinking beer while the watched and laughed most likely enjoying the show from their village witches. How I envy those men now. I looked at them with pity and anger. I could not believe what my eyes were seeing.

I angrily matched to them, a bible tucked under one of my arms. "Evening my daddies" I said in yoruba with respect.
"Why do you people sit and drink,... Blah blah blah " . I started preaching to them. About hell and their soul and drinking and everything. Opening the bible and reading to them.

It was obvious the devil had concluded this people's matter and even god most have given up on them, because they kept on smiling and sipping their drinks, whiles glancing over my shoulders to peek at the show the witches were giving. How I wish now that I sat with them and ordered suya and a cold bottle of stout and yogurt, relax and also enjoy the show.
Well I was ignorant then so don't blame me.

I asked them to close their eyes and let me pray for them. Surprisingly they cooperated.
I prayed and left them and they continued their drinking.

Then I saw the dumb boy! He was with his dad and mum. They were in line for prayers from the man of God!
I was excited! I quickly looked for my brother in christ to let him know I had found the dumb boy we prayed for.

continuation: https://www.nairaland.com/3085047/part-2-pastor-atheist-why#45302226

Updates on the new thread.
www.nairaland.com/3085047/part-2-pastor-atheist-why#45297254

CONTINUATION....
We returned to our camp praising God. We had to find an isolated place to praise God for the wonderful miracle and ask that he does much more that night in the crusade our fellowship was holding for that village.

That night we started with a movie show. Then our invited Preacher arrived. He was a Dr. In the department of mechanical Engineering FUTA. A seasoned evangelist. A short, fair, bald man but a man of the word and power!

He preached in yoruba and the ministration was Powerful!
When he asked for those who wanted to give their lives to christ almost the whole people there came out.
It was a charged atmosphere.
Then he began to pray for the sick and possessed.

Girls were just falling everywhere. (Why always girls I know why of course). The girls that were delivered from witchcraft must have been around 10 or much more.

Then I began to wonder why the little boy that regained his ability to speak was not there. What could have happened.

In the dark of the night, I left the crusade and went to the boy's house. The whole village was deserted as almost everyone was at the crusade ground. I could still hear the preachers thunderous voice blasting from the speakers in the distance.

Only the local dogs lurked about in the dark, with sleeping goats dotting open spaces.

I got to the boys house. It seemed empty too. All the windows and doors were locked. I knocked and knocked. The sound of my knock in the empty street was erry. A shiver went down my spine as fear gripped my heart. But I was a son of the most high, nothing can harm me I reassured myself. I retraced my step back to the crusade ground as I was sure the boy and his family must be there.

https://www.nairaland.com/3085047/part-2-pastor-atheist-why#45300813

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THE DUMB BOY WHO SPOKE! Hallelujah!!!

Please Remember This Is Not Fiction, The events that Happened.

I had a brother in christ then who is currently an evangelist (missionary) in India. He was a 2 years my senior though a year my junior in age. In the fellowship this was the brother matured enough to discuss serious things with. You could never guess his age because of his maturity. In fact when he was not made the fellowship president many members were upset thinking he was most deserving. Instead he was made the bible study coordinator.
Iron sharpens iron and so did we sharpen each other in matters of the scriptures. Always examining our lives and encouraging each other to stand firm in what is true. There was no room for lies.

In one of our many outreaches, this brother and I prayed for a dumb boy and the boy spoke! Yes, we prayed in the name of Jesus Christ and the boy spoke instantly! What events lead to this and what happened after.

2005 or 2006 there was a great crusade in the town of osogbo. It was Dr. Samson Ayorinde! Before him was Reverend Reinhard Bonkke . I was unable to be at the Bonkke Crusade, but I was at that of Samson Ayorinde. I am very sure the crowd would be in the hundred of thousands. The crowd was MASSIVE. This man was healing people as if it was childs play. That day I saw blind men regain their sight! I saw lame walk! I saw dumb people start to speak! I saw deaf people regain their ability to hear!
The atmosphere was charged! It seemed anything could happen in that atmosphere.
Wow!!! So our God is this Real!!!
So all that I was seeing on tv was true!
Many people only came to see miracles! Infact if the man had failed to do miracles I am sure many people would have angrily left.
With what I have read in the bible, with what I had read in "God's Generals", with what I see on TV, With what I have witnessed at this crusade, I said to myself, "I will NEVER doubt God."

The next day we got to the crusade ground early so we could get a good seating space at the front. Trust human beings, the crowd was even more today because it had been confirmed that the man of God was indeed a Powerful Man of God.

So when he started calling out for blind people, the number of blind people was much higher now. Same for deaf, same for dumb people!
BUT something was wrong this time. Majority were not healed.

Well, it could only mean they did not have faith or they had sins in their lives. Afterall is it not God that healed the remaining few that were heal?

So I did not let that even bother me. Na dem sabi. All I know is I have seen God heal others and that is good enough for me.

Fast forward 5 or 6 years latter, here I was with this brother in a village, with a dumb boy. We were there to invite people for the crusade that would be holding that evening. The boy was alone at home and he indicated to us that he could not speak. I remembered how jesus sent his disciples two by two into the towns and villages to preach and how they came back with testimonies of the mighty works of God.
The Holy Spirit was using that to speak to me. I asked my partner if he also felt convinced that the boy would speak if we prayed for him.

So we laid hands on him and commanded his tongue loose.

Instantly This boy began to speak!
Hallelujah!!!
What!
The Dumb boy spoke!!!!

We knelt and praised God!

We were so modest we did not even tell anyone. We just left we were sure the parents would run to the crusade to testify that their son has started speaking.

https://www.nairaland.com/3085047/part-2-pastor-atheist-why#45299460

You can read Part 1 here is you missed it www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian

earthrealm:
#as copied

One day a local evangelist bragged during a crusade that his God was more able than all the other gods in the town and the powers of the universe that the villagers worshiped put together. Just then, rainstorm sounds started sounding overhead, threatening the progress of the crusade. The evangelist lifted up his voice and declared with confidence that if the rains fell, then he wasn't a man of God; he would stop preaching!
Before he could finish his bluff, the rains began to hit the crusade grounds so vehemently, apparently in disregard to his declarations. The whole town left the crusade grounds to their houses, shaking their heads in disappointment and dismay.
The evangelist, so distraught and angry, packed his belongings and left the town the next day. On his way through the next town, he checked into a local drinking spot and drank himself to stupor. As he laid on the ground cursing God, an old seedy looking man tapped him gently on the shoulder.

"Man of God", the old man began. But the evangelist quickly cut in, "don't mention the name of God to me. He is fake. He is unreliable. I am no longer a believer in this God. A God who chooses to disgrace his servants. Leave me alone!"
But the old man would not let him be. He continued,"I am the fetish priest in the village you just preached at. During your one week stay in that village, you destroyed all the charms i had made on the people for 45 years. Your prayers and your words always came with some fearful fire and power. I tried so many times to eliminate you but i couldn't. My last chance came yesterday. I had loaded my gun with gun powder lying wait on the mountaintop where i had a very clear view of you. My plan was to shoot you from a distance since i couldn't get close enough to you due to the fire around you. But just when i lifted the gun, the rains came from nowhere, wetting my gunpowder and covering you in a cloud so that i couldn't even see you. All i saw was a bright man holding a sword in front of you. I was so terrified. I concluded that your God was indeed all powerful and Almighty. That is why i've been looking for you since then. I want to follow this your God!"
The ex-evangelist bowed his head in shame!

Dear friends, sometimes, it is just wise for us to believe that our Father knows the way He is taking us. We should just trust His leading. Let our boast be in the Lord, not in ourselves. If we decree a thing and it doesn't happen, let us not see it as disappointment or dishonor from the Father. Let us just believe that the Father wants his perfect will to be done in all things.

These are stories that excite illiterates. You have no idea the amount of lies keeping christianity afloat. And don't forget EVERY religion has enough of such stories to support the supremacy of their religion. Even olumba olumba that is an ordinary man but claims to be god has lots of such stories to keep his gullible followers. Grow up, grow wise.

Following

Joagbaje:
Matthew 15:30-31
30 And great multitudes came unto him, having with them those that were lame, blind, dumb, [maimed, and many others, and cast them down at Jesus' feet; and he healed them:

31 Insomuch that the multitude wondered, when they saw the dumb to speak, the maimed to be whole, the lame to walk, and the blind to see: and they glorified the God of Israel.

Maim refers to amputee

Ooooohhhh gooooosh!
You are not a kid nau! Haba!

I don't believe the bible as an historical fact or the word of god so why are you quoting it to me as fact?

montezz:
Really? Have u been there? Can u provde its existence without quoting a Bible passage? Hell exists only in the human brain!

It's a fact! It's a Fact! They cry.
Remember, authority. That was how it was passed down to them. The brain washing dies hard only few have the mental strength to break it

Alfamann:
Joe, I thought you quit nairaland when your scam was exposed last year?

I am sure he has countless experience of god failing. But let us not bring that ugly past to this thread. Let's hear what he has to say