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plaetton:
Yes indeed.

The problem with religion is that it puts the answers before the questions, and then forbids the questions from being asked.

Absolutely

analice107:
Lolz. This is the second time am coming in contact with you. The first, Urahara mentioned me, and now you mentioned me. You don't exist in my world.

Be happy

CoolUsername:
I came here to say this. Increase my adrenaline: I go into fight-or-flight, increase my dopamine: I will see whatever activity I'm currently doing to the end, increase my endorphin levels and I'm more likely to repeat an action.

'Freewill' is probably just an illusion.

Absolutely. But don't forget there are impulses that determine the release of these hormones.

Life and reality shall be hacked before this century is out and we will see an age of immortal consciousness. Watchout for my work in this field. Working on something, but time is not ripe to blow my trumpet. In 2 years time we will have a template to present. Still working in the thesis, this is not science we can even give a prove of concept to yet, but we can give models, and in 10years time or a bit more present prototypes. For now all we got is theories, models, then we chat a path for prove of concept working on functional units towards of full prototype for cybernetic reality. Hope to raise funds from literature first.

analice107:
In your mind you have said something.
Every theist is an illiterate. What a ..., don't let me sin against my God

Are you every theist?
What fallacy of hasty generalization. Show me where is said every theist is an illiterate.
I have said what I have to say got better people both theists and atheists to discuss with. No time for sentiments

Edybleketara:
@ hardmirror dat supernatural stuff has always baffled me. I've never personally experience any supernatural stuff, but i've heard incidents of supernatural stuffs frm pple close to me. They sound so real dat i begin to wonder wot they stand to gain if they were lying. For instance blood money. If making blood money is fake, if no one has ever made money through spiritual means, why d hell is such believe so rampant, so common dat it is actually one of d first things we were taught while growing up? What do pple stand to gain by lying to others about the existence of blood money??

You don't know what you are not preveledged to.
Forget what people tell you, we love sensation as humans.

Have you done blood money?
Has any of your friends done blood money?
Did they show you the process?

ONLY AND ONLY IF all any of your answer is YES before I can take your claims serious and then engage you in further questions, don't get carried away with what people say. Gist must always be sensational. As an educated mind I don't get carried away with what pEople say. I have tricked so many people successfully so far that I am very wary of what I believe. You need to understand how humans take advantage of the ignorance of fellow humans it is survival of the fittest. Don't be among the crowd, be among the enlightened. Be calm and ask the intelligent questions before you get sucked into the journey of no return.
I am a baller and I roll with ballers. Money is about intellegence. I just checked out of R&A hotel Ikeja. Those who know will know what I am talking about. Blood money does not exist. These are MEN people believe made money from jazz. We know as e dey go. Forget them say. We are in the know. Got no time for bullshit

analice107:
Thanks for your concern.
I have never bclaimed to be intelligent, you are the intelligent one, yet in my uneducated and illogical mind , i find your arguments very childish

Oh yes. Take note of the bolded. Try and be educated

Very interesting story, keep em coming

Analice107 I mentioned you not because I regard your arguments on this forum. But because of your statements you made in a similar thread which had no logical footing and lacked any semblance of intelligence from an educated mind. I say this not because I don't belief in what you belief, but because you make your belief cloud your judgment making you an easy prey for anyone who can play along your sentimental inclinations

THE SUPERNATURAL

Does the Supernatural exist?
Absolutely yes!

This is a Nomenclature given to things we can't understand or explain. It is nothing more than that.

Eg is lightening supernatural?
Not to everybody. Scientists now understand the workings and creation of lightening to the extent that they can recreate lightening at will.

At a time lightening was considered the wrath of God. Lightening was seen as a tool only God could control.

But we are way ahead of that. Airplanes fly in the sky and lightening passes around the fuselage of the airplane without causing any damage to the airplane.
Does this mean man has tamed the wrath of God?

Attributing things we don't yet understand to God would only make ridicule of the same God when we fully understand them.


It was once believed that diseases were caused by the Act of God. At a time people never knew diseases were caused by tiny organisms.

If were had continued in this ignorance we wontt have vaccines, medications, therapies etc used in treating diseases.

Chicken pox for example was incurable some years back, it was seen as the wrath of Sopono the Yoruba God of Poxes (small pox Chicken pox etc), but thanks to our understanding of viruses and bacteria we have been able to treat, vaccinate against and even eradicate a lot of diseases. Small pox and chicken pox are no longer supernatural to us.


Does the supernatural exist?
Yes it does only as a nomenclature for things we don't understand.

Magic is only magic until you know the tricks. (See the masked magician videos on youtube you will be amazed at how easy it is to trick people with magic, when all there is to it are tricks)

Does JUJU, Vodoo work?
Most likely, how and why do they work? It depends on the vodoo in question.
A Vodoo man claims he can make you bullet proof and he only tests you with his own gun. That is the secret of his trick.
This is reason why many armed robbers end up killed with their "bullet-proof" charm even on them. Why did it fail.


Imagine a primitive man seeing a gun for the first time in his life. He would think the gun is a magic ward since it kills what ever it is pointed at with a loud noise. Imagine using a bomb in the time of moses in the bible. What would people have thought? They will believe you if you told them is was a supernatural device.



Education is not ability to speak a foreign language or have a certificate. It is the liberation of the mind from unfounded assertions.
When a primitive man sees a volcano, he makes unfounded assertions, the educated man seeks to understand why the volcano behave the way it does.

Why does a kitchen knife cut vegetables but can't cut a spoon or slice through a glass bottle?
An educated mind knows it is because of the properties of the knife and what you intend to cut.
We humans take advantage of the properties of different elements to achieve our desired results.

This also includes deceiving our fellow humans. Education makes you seek to understand. If you don't then you become a slave to cheap tricks.

The supernatural exists only if we choose to be ignorant.

Let us keep pressing for knowledge.

Don't get carried away by what you don't understand. Don't spiritualize things you don't understand.
Don't claim to understand what you don't understand.
That you don't understand something now does not mean you won't in the future.
If the secrets of technology were kept away from humanity we would have been worshiping those who are more advanced than us thinking they have supernatural powers.

Time to wake up and put our brains to work. We have a lot to understand and religion gives conclusive answers that would only hamper the progress of research and query of the mind.

Johnydon22
Cloudgoddess
PastorAIO
Freecocoa
JackBizzle
Sonoflucifer
Plaetton
Sarassin
Alfamann
Oluwaseytiano
Kaboninc
Dazzlingd
Lepasharon
Calliope
Santori
Purerealist
Simplex2
Deepsight
Thehomer
Ifenes
Juststardust
Immorttal
Muttleylaff
Gatiano
Analice107

dukecharles:
**** what is their to read? That suddenly CBN can't provide Fx for fuel importation when the likes of Dangote, Aisha Buhari and other bourgeois are messing with our Fx.. By the time Nigerians will realize that GEJ was the best thing that happened to Nigeria, PMS will be sold for 200, dollars will be exchanged for 500. I just don't like youths that cannot ruminate.

What is it with "gej is the best thing.." Gej, Obj, Buhari are all terrible leaders. Let's call a spade a spade. They are all the reason for the woes we face as a nation today. Why exonerate Gej? Until we are frank with ourselves we won't move forward. Shame on every buhari supporter, shame on every Gej supporter

GrizzlyBear:
Your replies would be highly appreciated. Please pardon the length of my post.

Cc
Johnydon22
Cloudgoddess
PastorAIO
Freecocoa
Hardmirror
JackBizzle
Sonoflucifer
Plaetton
Sarassin
Alfamann
Oluwaseytiano
Kaboninc
Dazzlingd
Lepasharon
Calliope
Santori
Purerealist
Simplex2
Deepsight
Thehomer
Ifenes
Juststardust
Immorttal
Muttleylaff
Gatiano
Holocron

The real question is what is God?
That is the root question we should answer.

When you are able to define God appropriately it becomes easy to address all these questions about God.

The dictionary meaning of God does not in anyway prove God exists, it only points to the fact that Religion says God exists and this is what religion says God is.
If God is limited to the definition religion gives It, then which God is God?
Which claims about God is true?

Juju and supernatural DOES NOT prove God exists. If you see a dog on the road it does not prove God exists, it only proves dog exists.

If you see a car on the road, it does not prove Man exists. We know man exists because man can testify for himself. Man can prove for himself that he made the car.

You don't see monkey, goats, dogs fighting over who made the car.
There is order.

So which God made the supernatural? Can the God attest for itself?

rosieluv:
she took d pictures afta bein raped,so u tink she is jxt makin up d story?
aniwaiz am fyn n u

She must be very siily posting her unclad pictures online and posting all the rubbish story online. She should go to the police and keep the case private. This is not going to do her any good. Don't know why some people lack common sense.

rosieluv:
she took d pictures afta bein raped,so u tink she is jxt makin up d story? aniwaiz am fyn n u

Abeg. Na them sabi jare. I did not even bother reading it. I am good

D2diff:
Two sets of pictures 1) Prior to the rape-gave it/sent it to him 2) After the rape

Ok got it now
But does not add up still. Their wahala jare

rosieluv:
consensual act wiv a bruised face? haba

Hey rosie!
What's up?
That does not look like rape to me at all. She is just trying to take advantage of the chap.

How could she be taking pictures while being raped? Does not add up jare.

udysweet:
Hmmmm dat one na risky love,hhahahaha! One of two things:you hav succeeded in converting all of them in that family(a very impossible task)or they are whites (or blacks who at most lives abroad or have white people's orientation)daz all,lol! No wonder you call urself hardmirror,cos mirror breaks easily sometimes without even been touched but ur own different,abg wch type chemical dem use do am?so unflinching,lol! But abeg calm small,ur blood to dey hot,I see were u dey abuse some pple and dis our God wey u jus dey yab,d tin dey pain me o I no go lie. Oya promise me(by d way sebi u said I can dish a command and my servant will hear)don't yab anybody or abuse our God again mbok!lol
Business? This economic recession dey affect us too o,but we're hopeful something will turn soon in our favor.
Have a great day!

Ok no more bashing

Nice one!
Following...
Why do I keep seeing Jeffrey anytime Jesus speaks

udysweet:
Hmmm,easy man,don't end up falling in love with her o,lol! I remember you said smtn about never even wanting to marry someone from dis side of d divide(smtn abt the parents won't agree or so,I'm not So sure again)
Anyways popped in to see if a miracle has taken place,lol!(Of cos I'm still praying for all of u o,make una sha no eat me,lol)
*runs out of thread again without looking back*

Hello
And what if I am already in love with her?
Thanks for the prayers at least it shows you care. But I strongly doubt if I will ever go back. It just so absurd to put faith in something I know is fabricated. Hope your business is flourishing?

ikupakuti:
^^^^^

GOD does not exist as you put it cos he is the proof of existence!


Existence is a creature...every thing created has a begining/end and is bounded by the concept of time & space...GOD is uncreated


The human(created) intelligence/understanding cannot penetrate or grasp the true essence of GOD


Whatever exists will have to depend on the source of existence to continue to exist


GOD is INDEPENDENT


So, You cannot proove the existence of GOD ...cos whatever proof you tender would also rely on another proof for its validity...and so on down the line......thats why the big bang/evolution theory has generated more consequent questions than answers.....cos the moment you remove GOD from the equation... you‘ll never get to the bottom of anything


That is why religion was never fashioned/founded on REASON but FAITH

You can only come to the realization of GOD when you fall into the pool of pre-existence & eternity...through self effacement/annihilation...pratically, u‘ll have to stop existing

I love your reply. This is the aim of this thread. Very intelligent argument you have there.
Problem is language. Language cannot grasp the definition of God fully, the simplest and universally accepted attribute of God is Creation.
We can never find God, But if we insist that whatever created everything in existence is God, then God automatically exists even though we can't find this source of everything, we would only have to hang that title on a phenomenon we don't know and probably can't know.
Hope you understand

1. DOES GOD EXIST?

The absolute sincere answer to this is YES!
GOD EXISTS!


Oh yes you read that right. God exists.
According to the Merriam Webster Dictionary this is the definition of God.

God : the perfect and all-powerful spirit or being that is worshipped especially by Christians, Jews, and Muslims as the one who created and rules the universe

This definition is also the root cause of the problem of if God exists or not.

Why?
We expect certain characteristics of God.

1. We expect it/him/she to be all powerful.

2. We expect God to be a spirit.

3. We expect God to confirm to Religion.

These are the very problems, we have so defined God that we seem to know so much about God. But the problem really is we are not only saying God exists, we are emphatically saying MY GOD EXISTS!

So you say your God exists and you discard other Gods, then we have a serious issue. PROVE YOUR GOD!

This problem is usually resolved with the "God of the Gaps" argument. And trying to force people into accepting your own religious documents.

This won't hold water because if you want people to just believe you because your religious book is your back up, then why are you rejecting other religious documents?

God exists because we choose to attribute certain things to him. At the end God may just be Energy, Photons or whatever. Maybe one day we will discover the absolute source of energy and matter which are the building blocks of what we call existence. That source is God, because we say God created what we refer to as existence.

For now the honest truth is WE DON'T KNOW GOD. GOD is there because we attribute creation to it.

At a time people thought the origin of matter and energy was from the sun and they worshipped the sun as God.

The true quest of man is to find our origin, in doing that we are searching for God.

Just like the sun, it is evident that God has no obligation from us. God would do what it would do.

Man has always been trying to make God work in his favour. We want to be able to put God to our advantage and this is where conflicts of Gods start.


TO BE CONTINUED

kennycanny:
Pls , you and hardmirrow do not need to be childish about this whole thing.

whichever side you belong , you can still be mature about it.

It's play time. Don't forget I never created the thread to change anyone. I have told my story, and been matured in my narrative, now is time to play.

Lilimax:
LIES!!!
This one na ice blocks from cold room or deep freezers. Period!
Una for show us the real rain fall where Ice block dey fall

For this kain whether wey dey hot like this for this obodo Nigeria...

Small minds everywhere. You boldly call someone a lier without having counter-evidence. I grew up in Jos and experienced this a lot. It is called Hailstone. Geez!
Expand your knowledge and stop making a mockery of yourself online.

bobkezel:
atimes i wonder if people really think with their brains or anus. How can someone post this trash and people swallow it hook, line and sinker. I blame the moderators in part for not scrutinizing trashes before it gets to front page. That was how that same guy (ymodulus) posted one trash here about him commiting suicide, he gave step by step details about how he wanted to commit suicide and people were all over here ranting ''we should save him'', and running helter skelter to save him. He always gang up with his cohorts to deceive gullible people. He is a habitual con man and lair. He is 23, and he is worth over N100m and upon all his wisdom and all thriving businesses he could delve or invest into, he chose a tomato. Had it been he mentioned canning of tomatoes, i would have forced myself a bit to believe his trash. He is a blo0dy liar and i pity those that are gonna fall prey to him.

I don't know the worth of Ymodulous but I know he is very very honest (people change so I still advice everyone to be careful). Mayorall, ymodulous, Justi4jesu are people I have done business with and was surprised at how open and honest they are. Here on nairaland I think ymodulous should be the most impressive of them all. Very intelligent, hard working and innovative chap.

Still I advice people to be careful.

By the way, I don't think he is asking anyone for money

bigcil2:
Nice.

Btw
I have some plots of land for sale at Magodo 2 , each plot is #45M.

Bad advert.

Go to property section here on nairaland and advertise properly. Open a thread with pictures and your contacts.

CAPSLOCKED:
SUCH AN IMPORTANT "COMMODITY" FOR THAT MATTER!

It's gold now o

urahara:
Daddy hard mirror ,


I was passing the market yesterday , and lo and behold, what did i see acrooss the sea side.


....... I saw some good for nothing some burry s. Worshipping the virgin toyin tomato . they were bowing down to her statue . daddy g. O what do u have 2 say about this

Ahn ahn! You should know Gwagwa embraces all religions even if your god is Punna, Gwagwa is not like Jehovah, no jealousy in him, cos he knows all the Gods worship him, so no need for insecurity

urahara:
Loooooolz

Oga hard mirror , has your problem with kanama papers finally been cleared

I pay my tithe regularly, things must not be tight for me. I will get out of it and share my testimony after I pay enough to kill the publicity

urahara:
Praise be unto gwa gwa and his son


.......... Born of a virgin called




..................... Toyin tomato

His son Tomato is angry with Nigeria at the moment, He has made himself scarce and expensive.

urahara:

Gwagwa be praised. He is the God of all religions. The God of all Gods and gods.

BeastAmbition:
Yea. Responsibility Is The Watch Word: How Will You Compare A Man That Pray For 12hours Non-stop To A Man That Work For 10hours A Day? - The Latter Will Be The Master Of The Former, Just As Lazarus Was A Slave To The Rich Man.

Exactly

femicyrus:
Atheist, how life without God?
be sincere with yourself

Life has been better without God. Sooo good that christians that know me only use heaven and hell to try to scare me because they see I don't need God. The key is RESPONSIBILITY

josh07:
OLORIBURUKU GOD WILL RUIN UR ENTIRE GENERATION FROM UR REAL FATHER TO UR ADORTED FATHER AND MOTHER AND UR SIBLINGS AND UR DUATHER AND UR PARENT RELATIVES, SADNESS WILL NEVER STOP FROM THOER HOUSEHOLD IBIJOKE OGUNLEYE. THE ENTIRE OGUNLEYE FAMILY WILL NEVER KNOW KNOW HAPPINESS BCUX I WIRK HARD FOR MY #23M

Hard truth. Only the 1st person to catch her has hope of getting his/her money back. She would have spent so much paying everyone back will be impossible.
Let the wise decode the message I am passing here.