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Azoy:
Hi Hard mirror...this is AZO..same one from block B room 210..same one u claimed to have converted..lol..I still can't figure out who u are but that's cool...Anyway I was and I'm still a freethinker. Sorry to disappoint u but I wasn't converted and here's my angle. Lets assume there's loving and powerful God who is powerful enough to do anything..he created humans to watch most of them suffer..if he wants to do something about it but cannot, then he's impotent. If he can do something about it but doesn't, then he's wicked...eitherway that God deserve neither me nor anything from me.anyway that's me.. I dont know what youre trying to accomplish here, but trust me it won't work, infact it'd make people's faith stronger and perhaps at the best give u cheap tainted publicity. Keep ur believes to urself man..human liberation is probably not up to u... nice writing style though, holding ur readers with suspense...holla if u can..I'd like to have a word, cheers.

Azo, don't worry about what I am trying to achieve. I am only telling my story here. I have said it over and over again. This thread is not meant to convert anyone. Just want to make my story available.

Remembering who I am. Was always coming around and we always had lengthy discussions. Will send you a pm

Azoy:
Hi Hard mirror...this is AZO..same one from block B room 210..same one u claimed to have converted..lol..I still can't figure out who u are but that's cool...Anyway I was and I'm still a freethinker. Sorry to disappoint u but I wasn't converted and here's my angle. Lets assume there's loving and powerful God who is powerful enough to do anything..he created humans to watch most of them suffer..if he wants to do something about it but cannot, then he's impotent. If he can do something about it but doesn't, then he's wicked...eitherway that God deserve neither me nor anything from me.anyway that's me.. I dont know what youre trying to accomplish here, but trust me it won't work, infact it'd make people's faith stronger and perhaps at the best give u cheap tainted publicity. Keep ur believes to urself man..human liberation is probably not up to u...nice writing style though, holding ur readers with suspense...holla if u can..I'd like to have a word, cheers.

I tot some said my story was fake? Lol
Well if this is azo for real. Please name just one of your room mates so I confirm it is you.
By the way, I believed then I was able to convert you tho I never followed up on you after 2008 when I left Abiola. But I recall you agreed to prayer of giving your life to christ then ( so you only tricked me )

malvisguy212:
its your choice, you chose God or reject Him, do you think you've found true peace ?The excitement of living life on the edge, as God takes you beyond what you are humanly capable of. Divine power to love the unlovable, to break
destructive habits, to resist peer pressure and to control such weaknesses as temper, greed, and selfishness. Not even death can snatch this JOY from you.
In the days you're a christian, do you think you know God ? Its is the pride in you that thought you lies that you know God. Your reasons for not becoming a Christian may be more flimsy that you realize. Years ago, psychologists
carefully explained to smokers the danger of smoking. They discovered that those who continued to smoke reported enjoying smoking more than before. Apparently, the discrepancy
between their behavior and what they knew they should do, forced their minds to exaggerate the pleasures of smoking. Likewise, a reluctance to become a Christian
could subject people to psychological pressures that distort their perception of the benefits or logic of remaining spiritually divorced from Jesus.

Your decision about religion is as
serious as a starving person deciding whether to risk eating something which might be deadly. And if you eat nothing for weeks, indecision becomes as deadly as the worse decision.

Indeed the saying from the scriptures is true "you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free"
I am free from delusion and self deception. I live life to the fullest, I am happy and responsible.

I know an imaginary friend and father is a necessary lie that some people need to keep them going. Atheism is not for the weak or fearful. It is for those who are ready to take full responsibility for their lives.

analice107:
Christians converts unbelievers, Satan converts Chritians. Weldone, your reward is great in hellfire.
Deep down, when none of us is with you, you know how much you mean to satan. you know, so dont come here a pretend about being an atheist who do not believe in satan. All the witches and Wizards are right here on nl pretending to be atheists , why wont any of you for once declare openly to being a practicing Witch or Wizard rather than being an atheist? O sorry, Sarassin did.

And yet they claim not to be in bondage. Just look at this one, keep imagining witches and wizards. This how religious people jump into conclusion labeling innocent people witches and wizards, suspecting everyone to be in alliance with the devil to pull them down. Even animals are not left out of the suspicions.

CONTINUATION.... THE DUMB BOY THAT SPOKE!

JustStardust:
Will this ever end?

Just warming up
Why do you think this thread has sooo many views and comments even all within a shot time tho it was not on front page.
It is because people are looking for answers and are in doubt of the answers they think religion has given them.
Some comments here trying to preach christ are actually ploys to extract a rebuff that may be superior to their arguments.
Mankind is still searching for it's origin.

Image123:
What kind of healing did you have or see if i may ask? BTW, Paul had seen many healings and yet prayed thrice for something but no answer. Your case is certainly not new.

Malaria, headache, pains of different categories etc. And at a time I believed a dumb kid regained ability to speak after I and a brother prayed for him.
But I know better now.
Yes my case is not new. Who talked about it being new? Everyday people are gradually realizing that god takes glory for things he did not do while actually he has never done anything. Seen many cases of people who are still christian but now know only their effort matters and they should not expect anything from god.

cloudgoddess:
Then what exactly was your point in suggesting he should raise his kids without education since he's raising them without religion? Why would the former follow from the latter?

He thinks that way because that is the only world he knows. A world of religion

abumeinben:
HardMirror

Well I'm not here to judge you. I agree with you wisdom above, but are physically limited. Me, I dont believe all these our miracle claiming spinners. They should proceed up north to perform their miracles. Or is it the ones that built schools that their members cant afford?

However, When you were "delivering" that girl in your secretariat on campus, you said you only commanded based on the word of knowledge, right? Well, I'm no spirikoko, but one thing i can say is that you carried something you, probably, couldn't grasp! And the lady's demon saw that and obeyed!

Demons have gonebeyond possessing. They've upgraded! Religions have also upgraded by under the influence of these demons!
The You think the space program is ordinary? I lol. You think the NUBAN account Number system by Central Bank is ordinary? I lol. You think GSM numbers( only you own your number worldwide!) you think its ordinary? lol
I dont really know if your stunt is to eventually convert atheists on this forum by first giving them moral and breaking them with this moral at the end.
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I chose to remain a christian for two reasons:

1. To get answers to questions that threw you off the Christianity path. The only to do this is to make heaven and ask God himself.

2. The issue of, yes yes yes, the issue of illuminati, freemasons, NASA, Nephilims, New World Order....

As regards point 2 above, please find time to read:

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Remember, whatever you choose, the christiandom needs you back bro. Just like Apostle Paul, great works lie ahead of you!

Thanks bro
THIS IS NOT A STUNT, IT IS MY TRUE STORY. I have not even told the story of my childhood. I grew up a lover of God. I mean with my whole heart I believed and Loved the Lord. So those waiting for me to pull a surprise towards the end of this whole episode should forget it.

Yes people respond to authority. Train a dog and you will understand. Good trainers of dogs easily make good leaders. (Not talking about just keeping a dog and feeding it)

I know what I have experienced. Those quoting the bible should know that you can't claim to be using logical reason when quoting the bible to a peoson that does not even believe the bible is the word of God.

The first thing to do is to prove the bible to be God's word (image123 take note). So such people should stop crying that they are not getting any attention despite all their efforts to be noticed. As you all can see, this guy I am replying made Logical points I can reason with and that is why I am replying him.


As for unique Nuban number and phone number, what is spurious about that? Are you suggesting 10 people share a single number? You have a unique number because that is the only way you can be contacted privately. I don't see what is fishy or spiritual about that.

Illuminati and co are cults, just like your masquerade cults in your village. The difference is these are cults for elites and they have a global objective. They use spiritual undertones to keep secrecy and mystify their operations.

santori:
I remember back then 2009 in school when I encounter the first atheist in real life, this guys just have answers to every question. my first impression is, this guy is mad, sometimes I'm furious , felt like giving him a big slap on the face.

fast rack few years later I never knew he would end up being one of my best friend ever. in fact this guy is the most honest and straight forward person you can ever think of.

what I always tell those who care to listen is, you don't need any imaginary God to do good. It's just in you

Noticed that too when I met Azo the atheist I ended up converting. Atheist are honest to themselves.
You can't be a freethinker in a religious society without an heavy dose of honesty to yourself and then to others around you

deeplow:
I am not an atheist, but i have reservations about religion and what it teaches. I was talking to a Christian friend about a month ago, she kept going on and on about how Christianity is the only way to heaven.

So, i asked her, from the genesis, "why are you a Christian"?
She gave a lot of indirect answers. I helped her out, i told her she is initially a Christian because her parents are. I then asked her what Christianity said about non-believers and heaven. She said, Christianity is the passport to heaven.

So, i asked her, what did you do to/for God that i didn't do?
Why am i condemned to hell fire because of something i am innocent of?

Why did God let me choose parents who are practising the "wrong" religion?

What did i do to God?

Would God watch me burn for eternity over something he helped me do(we are to believe God chooses who our parents are)?

If truly God is all loving, why didnt he lead us all on the right path?

Why do i have to be Muslim and destined for hell fire?

She only just continued preaching, so, i just told her to continue with the meal. She didnt have an answer.

This is not an attack on Christianity!!! It is an attack on religion. it only came this way because of the way it happened.

I'd be glad if anybody, be it a Muslim or Christian, shed more light on this.


It is just funny how people who are educated fail to question religion. Ignore whatever you have been taught , look at religion from a neutral perspective, you will understand a lot of things.

Don't ask questions. That is the mantra of religion.
It's depressing to try to reason with indoctrinated folks, they don't give logical answers, answers are always based on indoctrination not reasoning.

PastorAIO:
What you should do is go to his profile and when you get there click on his 'posts'. That will take you to all his posts that he has posted in the last few days. That way you can read all his posts without reading the nonsense that has been interjected on the thread. This is how I read some posts when there are too many people involved.

His story will be there all in one page.

Smart guys will always have shortcuts

olumose001:
Noted... bros am a great fan, those are great write-ups.. and am very much intrigued with the story line, it could have been adapted for a Nollywood movie... "God or no God"

Hmmm.

Blescyn:
Can anybody direct me to the page he finally stated the reason for his conversion....i'm too lazy to read comments

Page 102
Lazy people. Better leave the thread. It is not compulsory to go thru it. There are stories of teebillz on front page you can read

olumose001:
I guess page 79 ... ops sowi, my vision is getting blurry.. too much unreasonable comments, all because of one guy who has got beef with capital God..

Point of correction fish not beef. Pls take note.
Thank you

kolinz:
Seems the guy just want to Stir dust, till now he hasn't told us the events that led to this.
This issue of the existence of God has been of great concern to mankind, with individuals taking whatever side they are comfortable with, the thread is becoming boring since we already know some people are atheist not as if the op is enlightening us.
We are more interested in his life's experience maybe we can relate with that

People have eyes but cannot see
What events are you still waiting for?
Perhaps you have a predetermined end to my story? Like maybe somebody died and I got angry with god? Or what?

More and more people are already realizing the lies of christianity. Many people are still going to church just for the fun of it, but arre already atheists, many pastors have already discovered that the bible aint the word of god so the just keep up the act for the gains in it.
People don't need special specific events to realize the lies.
If you can't read and understand my posts then I really feel sorry for you. How will you understand more complex things?

Udysweet, don't be shy. Speak for your servant heareth.

virginboy1:
Bros, I really appreciate your courage "e no easy" that part you mentioned "denouncing religion openly can make one lose goodwill" is very true, people like us play along and shout the louder Amennnnnnnnnnnn!!!.



So you too dey enter romance Lolzzz, take it easy ooo!

Remember St Paul says no bleebing until you marry...lolzzz

Loooooool!!!!
Na so o

No o. Bleeping ke? Small boy like me?

freecocoa:
So they stole your laptop and you ended up just dashing babalawo money, you fvcked up o.

I had a similar experience in my final year in secondary school.

My purse with money, phone and one of my dad's sim card in it, was stolen in the hall after our mock exam one day, and I knew I was in big trouble because of that sim card. That's how some people told me of one woman somewhere, who sees past events in a mirror, my friends suggested we go, (even though I have never been one to believe in juju,it always caused a fight between me and my people even as a teenager then, I couldn't explain anything explicitly o but it just never made sense) but see me na, a desperate and angry girl, I forward marched to the place with my squad.

On getting there, the mamalawo's receptionist told us she doesn't come out till 4 pm(i never knew we had vampire babalawos/mamalawos till that day), we were made to wait and after what seemed like eons, the orobo woman came out, led us into one smelly small hut, I could see my friends getting scared but I was silently praying this woman please be the real deal. She asked me what brought us, I explained, she said I'd pay a certain fee I don't remember the exact amount, I did, then she instructed us to go buy white kola nuts, alligator pepper and some sort of native chalk, we went, bought the items came back, handed them over and she asked me if I wanted the person mad or dead, after singing one fake song she just composed right there, I was like , madam I just want my purse and things in it ni.

There I was, hoping that this woman would show me who stole my stuff in the mirror, only for this okoriburuku of a woman to say that, there's no other way, that it's either the person dies or runs mad, Tbh I felt like puncturing her fat stomach that day for wasting my time and money but I just told her to forget about the whole thing, all she was able to achieve was give me proof that of all the talk about juju being hogwash.

Anyways what am I saying? I'm saying that, if we humans can decide not to hurt people who genuinely wronged us, then a god who decides to burn people in an endless fire for doing absolutely nothing, but choosing to exercise their freewill of not choosing to worship him, then he is not only a psychopath but a dumb one at that and the idea of such a god, should be vehemently discouraged.

I really enjoyed your story. Scammers everywhere

BiafranNigerian:
The more you search for God, the more you will discover that you have been searching for yourself and all within the entire energy spectrum. I have been on the journey for almost 20years. Make no conclusion, there is always a plus factor.

HmMm

udysweet:
Watch this thread hit 60pages in less than one week. I can't evn keep up again with it,lol!
@op I would have wanted to tell you my observation so far about you(I took a quick sneak peek into your profile,cldnt go pass 3topics tho)but again I hate for people to throw words at me (so far I've been lucky)and so I'll keep it bottled within me,mak person no come insult me,lol!Not like I want to see you in person(evn tho I kno you've become a lil bit more secuity conscious afta dis whole episode,na make u no come co opt me ,lol!)But if I hav a way to talk to you,I will tell u.
Notn anyone can say to change you and I doubt anyone is still trying to(you hav been an atheist about 4yrs now froom ur writeup)
I sincerely do wish you well sha but abeg be humble o,don't take things for granted sha

Thanks.
Please say your mind. Promise not to bite

Check this nice site up www.skepticreport.com/sr/

Alokendra:
This was the genesis of my transition to agnosticism. It is very difficult to be a humanist and still remain a christian.

I remember when I was in the university, I was very passionate about helping people. In the course of denying myself of many stuffs while helping people, I lost my laptop. My laptop was stolen because I took a 5 mins nap. I was so tired because I sacrificed my entire day to help some students know a difficult topic better.

After my laptop was stolen, it was as of my life wanted to crumble. I had so many stuffs in there. My final year project was in there. 98% of my life's work was in there. I was devastated. I became furious, and rage was burning in me. I wanted revenge and I was ready to sell my soul to anything just to have my revenge.

I have always heard from friends that Ilara mokin is notorious for voodoo. I went there and met with all manners of people who were d
ready to help me take the soul of the culprit. I later met with an old man and he gave me substance that I should wake up in the midnight and recite some stuffs that within three days I'd see the blood of that person. That was where I started becoming uncomfortable. I didn't see myself taking the life of another. I couldn't stomach it. I'm the kind of person that I will never hurt a fly. The humanist side of me overwhelmed me and I told the baba that I can't . That I do not want anything to happen to the person again. I paid him and left. It was a very painful experience.

My point is - if a mere mortal like me cannot stomach the thought of hurting someone or taking someone else's life, how much a 'loving father' that has been painted as the most loving and the best thing that has ever happen to mankind. How could such a person now chose to roast people in hell for not believing in him and for a meagre offence. This is the height of barbarism. How could a person be so blood thirsty.
And it's not as if he will burn them for a short time. He will burn them forever. Haba! Even if I make even, I'll never be comfortable that some people are actually burning. God and I will have to slug it out

As in...
The irony of it

urahara:
U STRONG MAN , SITTING ON MY FINANCES. ROAST BY FIRE !!!!!!

Kikikikiki I laughed so hard, tears streaming down my eyes

Lessonteacher:
be sincere pls, do u smoke weed or use drugs?

Are you looking for buyers for your stock?
Try the guys in romance section. Many of them are steady cushers.
All the best selling your sh!t.

urahara:
Nigerians are more inclined to read books like possessing your possession. God of overnight mirqcle. And prayerpoints against witchcraft

Hehehehehe
My dad used to buy mountain of fire books. Men!.. Those guys are living in serious bondage. You need to see over 1000 prayer points against different enemies. That guy has a very healthy imagination.
You see stuff like "curse of the placenta"

johnydon22:
Teempakguy or SirWere i think but do you think Sci-fi novel is a good idea in a country like Nigeria?.

Asin like this Nigeria Nigeria ooo Bro it's 9ja ooo

I am a published writer and I did not publish or market my book in Nigeria. So will cross that huddle when I get there. Make nigerians no kill my career.

chubbyswit:
now i know u're a fool, no offence, you just confessed that God exists and have even experienced him. Why have you then made up your mind to insult him? Are you trying to drag people down with you with all these lies?

Na wa o. Abeg parents keep your phones from children under 10years of age. PLease!

johnydon22:
There are many of such groups on facebook, i have been invited to many of them but not really interested neither do i take facebook serious... rarely log in.

But we do have a Nairaland Freethinkers lodge on whatsapp though..

So we need to slowly take that step and organize discussions.

i also have ideas for science seminars and debates, that i will take up with LoJ, Teempakguy, Blackjewelry, Joshuabase , SirWere and others

I am writing a sci-fi novel about cybergenic Immortality. Know anyone who is a good writer and inclined to scientific gibberish?

Zzyco:
So you now believe there is heaven? God cannot be mock , he will surely get back to you.. Am laughing at you.

Jeez! Why are people so dumb?
Where did I say I believe in heaven. You don't even know when someone is making a sarcastic statement.
Jeez!
Jonnydon22 are these the people you want to have live chat with? :-O

swaggzo:

BEFORE THAT, MAYBE A SOCIAL NETWORK GROUP WOULD BE OKAY FOR A START??

Better.
Don't under estimate these guys. Many are mad few are roaming

johnydon22:
Lets plan then



Hahahahaha i have debated many, pastors, Jehovah witnesses even bus preachers, there is nothing new.

it will be fun... You game?

I have stated my ground.
Got no biz with christians and muslims. That is what many of them here fail to understand.