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Feministic:
and being a hate spewing bigot does nothing to tarnish the image of an alleged Christian? You are still picking and choosing. What leaving judgement for God? What about loving everyone as a human being and as God's creation? Religion is unrealistic because I forgets that people are dynamic and changing, and no matter what they are told to love, they will always condemn what they like. It like when Nietzsche said: "God is Dead". People have killed that fear of God, it no longer keep people away from their yearn to hate.

the bible actually approves of rape, you might want to take a closer look at Judges 21:10-24 , Deuteronomy 22:28-29, 2 Samuel 12:11-14 , amongst others where rape is seen as "not so bad" and sometimes the right thing to do.

See how good it feels and how much easier it is to hate and condemn based on your own fears and desires? I'm not sure what this mess in the Bible is all about your many duty on earth being to love everyone and not to judge people,

"Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law."

Bullshit, right?

Yea, that argument would work if Modern Christians were actually a minority. They are not nearly as condemned as other groups can you really compare the violence that other minorities receive to what M/C's experience?

candy:
I'm not here to condemn gays, but I do think they should form their own religion and leave christianity alone.

Feministic:
If you are unwilling to treat someone as an equal, then how can they be your friend? much less want your genuine progress?

If it were "just as hard" for men as it is for women don't you think there would be less sexual harassment claims? Less claims of unequal pay?the sexism there is more than obvious.

Ah, a Christian? That explains much. You shouldn't have to be white or any other race in order to want to be treated as an equal. And just because some men have huge inexplicable ego's doesn't mean they all do, this is where gender roles take their toll on men.

In America that is, but in Nigeria it is more typical for the children to remain with the father, even if there is evidence that he is not a suitable caregiver.

I'm sure that there are men that can understand that a woman can care for her children ans still be tired when they come home from work, we are people! We shouldn't be expected to do it all just because a man doesn't want to step out of his designated "role.

I don't think that it's african women that are being pushed out of their comfort zone, I think that it's african men. A woman can still hold on to her culture and still have the sense to root out ideas that worked back then and ideas that apply to now.

I do pay attention to both sides, thats why I mentioned it. There are some women that question a man that is domesticated and wants to stay at home, etc but that is usually because of a criteria set up by men. Women need to explore their options without fear of the inevitable backlash, we are better than we were 100 years a go because someone was willing to stand up. If people of african descent had accepted segregation and colonization as the "natural order of things" as whites wanted them to, where would we all be today?

Feministic:
I didn't insult Christian churchgoers, I was calling out Christian hypocrites. The things that I said were very little opinion, I was recalling actual facts, xtianity is usually used as a "pick and chose" religion, as are most religions.You don't consider homophobes that enforce laws and ideas to control peoples sexual behavior to be religious extremists? IMO, a religious extremist is anyone who uses force to enforce the rules of their religion on anyone else. You don't need to kill people to hurt them, your ridicule and inexplicable hatred are more than enough. Never attacked? What the "gays beware" comment? It seems all too easy for most people to switch from "caring" to hateful when certain topics are brought up.

As for your last comment, try to really think about this, in this society, who is really being condemned? Christianity is a religion that is accepted almost anywhere you go. In the workplace, school, government, etc. The people that are really being condemned are the minorities, poor people, gay people, etc. I've read my bible and Christians back then were treated TERRIBLY, they were beaten, harassed, killed, and they had to hold their meetings in the worst of places. Compare that to the new "modern Christianity" of today. IMO, if you are right, a lot of "followers" are in for a rude awakening,

Feministic:
The same way that followers of the "Prince of Peace" can pick and choose who to treat well and who to treat like dirt. Also, the fact that the Bible's many contradictions and inhumane text have allowed it to be used by many power structures as a scare tactic to keep the masses in control and in the dark. People of african descent, slaves, women, poor people, rich people, gay people and many others have all been persecuted due to the manipulators of this rigid belief system. The worst is that after doing all of that, many feel free to sweep other "sins" under the rug (premarital sex, infidelity, lying, etc), accepting them as "natural" or "inevitable" and continue to preach about "love" and "peace" ( i.e: God forgives all sins, blah, blah, blah). Lets face it: many "Christians" beliefs don't coincide with Christ teachings. Which is why they skip over the "love your neighbor" part in the Bible and go right part they claim "prove" their hateful opinions concerning sexuality. There are very few people that really live up to Christ's teachings and even they can tell you it's more than rare that they ever see other "real Christians".

It may come as a shock to you because most men have preconceived notions about feminists that are based on stereotypes and isolated incidents.

Society as a whole is controlled by a male power structure (government/media/etc), pretending its not true won't make it any different. Being a professional woman should earn you respect, because as you mentioned, it is harder for women to become successful in this world, and if she decides that she wants to work all day and still come home to cook and clean and all that, then cheers for her.

But what of women that say "No" to that? They always receive backlash for not wanting to conform to society's standards and are usually given "Ballbuster" status. A man in control of a household is "normal" while a women in control of one is "crazy".

And as for giving a husband his "dues", I'm not really sure what you are talking about. I also would like to make it clear that I am in no way considering Motherhood to be submissive and I will admit that the intimacies of motherhood will ensure a woman's closer relationship with her children, but being a woman does not require you to be a mother and being a man does not mean that you want to have authority. There are men in this world that see their wives as equals, or like to stay at home with their children while their wife works, they're not "bad" or "weird" , they are just different and aware that families can be different.

And no denying that there are women who love to stay home with their children and are domesticated, this is fine to, but it shouldn't be our only option. Women and Men are dynamic, so why can't the roles be to?

This is what feminism is about : it recognizes that gender roles don't just hurt women, they confine men as well.

While Christian church goers are generally misogynist, hypocritical, elitist, sexist , conformist bullies, that love power and dominance more then they do their beloved sky "god".

ibkaye:
gods can, but God can't

Baxilexi:
hch, wali tali i didn't know you had a soft spot for her in your heart.

KarmaMod:
This is what happens when you constantly feel the need to follow me all over the place

All I did was agree with Tpia. How come you didnt question what she wrote until I quoted her? Or were you blind before

and arent South Africans black?

KarmaMod:
Like Raping babies so as to "cure" Aids? Right

and this THREAD is about a Nigerian dude. Stop trying to change the bloody topic.

So sad. 'well at least we're not like", who gives a damn?

Ruby_Pearl:
You be moderator ni?

KarmaMod:
How is calling her promiscuous "defending" her?

onyinye2:
Whoa, that was mean. even for you.

michelin89:
Where?? Chei this boy can lie ooo!

Ruby_Pearl:
moderator!!!!

KarmaMod:
I wish I knew. It's a shame really

michelin89:
How insensitive can you get?

ibkaye:
Lol, walahi talahi, imagiiinnnee