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dru23:
It was not my fight to fight. It was our fore fathers collectively should have fought the fight and win. It was their job to pave a way for the new generations so that life will be easier.. But they lost that fight and the new generations are suffering for it ..

Most of these so call leaders making the country unbearable are our father's mate and grandfather.. When the fighting was going on, many of us were too young to understand


Unfortunately they lost war and the fight .. We are now paying for it .. The next generation after us, what are we leaving behind for them? What sacrifice are we going to make for them to have a better country and future? Or do we expect them to fight the fight that we ourself should have fought and won?


My point here freedom is not free.. People will have to fight to be free.. People will have to die for freedom so that the next generation will be free.......

If the black slaves and civil leaders in the USA didn't fight to be free from oppression do you think Black Americans and black immigrants will be enjoying freedom today.....

They fought so that we can be free despise the odds stack against them.......

During slavery in the USA some slaves wanted to fight and run away .. And many wanted to revolt and others wanted to continue been a slave.. Because they were either too scared or they were born into slavery and never experience what freedom is ......


You my friend you are 1 of the many of them.. You don't want freedom, you are happy how the Fulani are oppressing you and even your own tribe.. Coz u never experience how things should work when u have a working government ....


Let Ukraine people fight for their next generation and for their homeland.. If they lose the war, it will be in the History book that they fought a good fight and they fought to the very end........

So your fore- fathers should have fought the war... when. they failed you, they took away your own boxing gloves and the next thing is for you to run away and blame others? The ukrainans that you are cheering, why are they not blaming their own fore fathers? Since you know your own fore fathers failed you, why are you blaming people in Nigeria for not sacrificing their children to go and fight a senseless war for you while you cheer them up on nairaland as brave people fighting for freedom? Your mates are leaving their comforts behind in America, UK to join the fight In Ukraine and previously Syria, what stopped you from doing the same? Hypocrite

dru23:
Nigeria problem is ur problem.. Lucky for me I don't have to deal with.. If Nigeria decides to split now now now, it will not affect me or my family. I don't live in Nigeria.. But am compassionate enough for the people that live there..

Nigeria is a mess politically ... Until people are willing to die and fight for equality, freedom and natural resources shared equally etc. Nigeria will never be free .....

The British are no longer ruling Nigeria, face and fight the people that are ruling you.. Until than na suffering and smiling..

You are a foool!!! You kept running your mouth like someone with watery diarrhoea calling people cowards for not fighting Fulani while you ran away. Why can't you lead the fight instead of running away? The same way wicked people like you are hailing Ukraine to keep wasting their citizens while you cheer them up from a distance calling them brave while you are holed up washing plates in one third world western country. If you are truly brave , you will stay in your country, fight the Fulani, lead the war and even become a minister instead of washing plates to survive in another man's land

advanceDNA:
I have looked it from Russia’s angle...and I don’t think it’s fair for Russia to want to impose its view on another sovereign nation....

Let me ask you...if Ukraine were Nigeria...what will your opinion be...truthfully.??

If Ukraine were Nigeria and Russia were USA, what will be your opinion? If Ukraine were Syria and Russia were isreal that kept bombing Syria to prevent them from getting weapons to destroy Isreal, what will be your opinion?

sotall:
You just deviated from the point he made and went off-point all through.

How would China not blink to take side with Russia?

The West and Russia, who is a more important trade partner to China?

Use your brain if you have one.

So why did china tell USA yesterday they are yet to send ammunitions to Russia but they are not ruling it out in the future? Just Google the comment of Chinese ambassador to USA yesterday. China has been conducting military exercise with Russia for decades. And why should China support the west? ...when they have the west stoking TAIWAN AGAINST THEM. The same thing that Russia is doing , China did it politically in Hong Kong. They changed the regime to someone that is more friendly to china. The west started banning Hong Kong, gave Hong Kong citizens free visa to UK, encouraged them to protest. This is less than two years ago. So you think China is dumb? Support the west so they can do same thing to them when they are done with Russia? Finally, Trump fought a trade war with china already. Australia, Canada is perpetually banning Chinese products, invoking trade barriers... you think because everyone is talking about Russia now, china has forgotten or what? China won't blink eye to support Russia. They have more to gain from supporting Russia than the west

DukeNija:
Even a 10years old child knows that there will be temporal discomfort for a greater good. Did you see the approval ratings despite the increased gas prices? People are more than happy to pay more to Bleep off Russian gas. Who cares about Sri Lanka? Lol
Germany just signed a gas deal with Qatar, expect more to come in the following months but one thing is certain, the Ruble and Russian economy will finished.

What you fail to realise is that it is always the two sides of a coin. Same way India is planning to buy Russian oil. Same way Russians will suffer temporal discomforts for self sufficiency later. It happened in Japan after world war. Same with Germany. Both became leaders at the turn of the century for technological innovation. The approval rate is only high in the west. Most other countries are evenly divided about the war. Finally, once inflation sets in, protests and disapproval will eventually come from the west . It is always like that. They supported Vietnam at first, when it dragged.. they started protesting against it. Same with Korea war. Same reason Biden ran away from Afghanistan and gifted war machines to talibans. Wars are popular initially, people get tired in the long run. In the end, the world will move on.... rather than Russia, it is Ukraine that will suffer the most . They are not wise

DukeNija:
The West is the biggest trade partner of both China, India and Russia. You don’t understand the buying power of the West hence your narrative.
Russia losing Germany alone will highly impact its GDP now add Belgium, UK, Netherlands and Poland to the mix. Oil and gas accounts for 60% of Russian revenue from exports. Go figure.
China is wary of joining forces or providing logistical support to Russia for one reason, trade partnership with the West.

You people will just sit down in the corner of your house and be analysing . China is weary because of the west ? So you think they can just cut off the oil and gas like that without the west suffering massive inflation? Maybe you should go and see the protest in Spain yesterday about high inflation and cost of fuel. Two people died in Sri Lanka on the queue for fuel. The war is just one month and america is suffering the highest inflation in 30yrs. Just be watching CNN and be giving beer parlour analysis. China won't blink eye to take sides with Russia when it gets to the stage. Finally, even the small Iran that was sanctioned by USA is being cajoled to take back another deal for lifting the sanction. Stay there and be reading only BBC

Skyfornia:
The way Russian economy will crumble in the nearest future will put them at the top of the poorest countries. Except the sanctions are revoked.

Winning the war is not all about killings and bombings...

That may not always be the case. Infact, it can make them become very self sufficient in the long run because they have both the brains and the technology. It is not every country you can stiffen with sanctions. Other countries are watching... Everyone will soon start finding a way to wean their economy from the west. New alliances are coming

Sanchez01:
I mean, you easily take the crown in the ranks of the Putin boys but let me break it down to you.

1. Russia approached American business lenders for loans (bonds).
2. Russia chose to denominate their bond in Dollars, meaning they will also pay interests in Dollars.
3. Russia signed a contract, offering some of its assets as collateral in case it defaults totally and is unable to pay back the loans (bonds).
4. If Russia defaults, interests on the bonds will shoot through the roof.
5. When it does, Russia would be in trouble as the lenders will declare Russia a defaulter.
6. If No 5 happens, the lenders will seize Russia's assets used as collaterals in securing the bonds.
7. The assets, depending on the terms of the contract signed could be in Russia or outside of Russia.
8. Note that the lenders here are not the United States government or its close tied agencies. They are financial institutions operating in the United States and could be owned by Americans.


Just take your time, think for a minute and digest the points above. Perhaps you will understand better.

You have said nothing.. Just assumptions.. It is not American business... it is sovereign bond. Read about it first. Nigeria issues it regularly. We also issue euro bond. Even Nigerian citizens can buy Nigerian sovereign bonds so that bond is held by millions of people and institutions worldwide. The bond is backed by nothing. It is not collateralized. It is usually based on the good faith that a country will pay back because it is a country. So they didn't approach American business for any loans. Stop your ignorance. Now, many of the external bonds are usually denominised in dollars or euro.... that is normal since dollar was adopted as international currency... which will soon change based on emerging trends. Russia can only pay in dollars. Russia is banned from transacting in dollars and they default... everyone knows why they default. It is not because they don't have, it is because they are banned. That is part of the risk associated with investment. Sovereign bonds are relatively safe but it still has some risks like this. The only detriment is that once you default as a country, no one will invest in your next bond issue at least outside your country. However, everyone understands the reason for the default and if they issue a new bond, china will buy it. Chinese holds most of the USA bonds. If they dump it in the market, dollar will tank but america will keep printing artificial money. Anyway, I am talking in too technical details for you to comprehend. So Mr Efcc, there is no asset backing bond. It is backed by good faith that a country will pay back

BabaIbo:
Like I said, you don't have a point.
What does living in USA and going to Russia for world cup has to do with this discussion?
You were trying to show that since you live there, you can't hate them or you understand them.

You hate something but you can't do without it.

Why don't you travel to and live in Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, Russia, Afghanistan, Belarus and co, why USA?

Are we even sure it's not the usual Nairaland faceless people bragging?

Like I said earlier, you don't have any thing reasonable to say regarding this topic/matter.

Some of those NURTW members are way more fortunate than you in every aspect of life.
I have things to do please, so fu ck off!

If you are half as intelligent as I assumed, you will know that all the countries you mentioned above are under USA sanction. They destroy countries for personal interest. You are so naive so you won't know that Venezuela was once the second richest country in the world till the almighty USA sanctioned it. I've been to more than 70 countries in the world.... does that mean I can't do without all of them.. I've been to china more than I've been to USA and who told you I live in USA? Like I said, you are not even as intelligent as I assumed. If killing people to take over Garrage is what makes NURTW to be more fortunate, I refused to be as fortunate as they are. I don't need that kind of money. It shows your mentality. Just get the money anyhow.... wether america is killing people in the middle east or NURTW is killing to take over Garrage .... they are fortunate. Such an unfortunate citizen we have in this country is what you are

Sanchez01:
If Russia is unable to pay in Dollars, they will default without a doubt and that means their assets whether in Russia or outside of Russia will be seized on the spot and become the temporal assets of the lenders/investors.

You still don't understand why Russia is running helter skelter over this and it's strange that you don't understand what a sovereign default is capable of unleashing on any nation.

How? This guy is just spewing rubbish. All the assets are seized already... even the one belonging to oligarchs... private citizens. What assest do you now want to seize again.? Rather it is Russia than can nationalise companies like macdonald. Already, Russia already told airlines not to return planes they leased. They should be flying it for free for now. You want to take over assets you have already taken over?

Frankiss44:
That's the issue with you guys.. You hate the US so much and hype these communist countries.. But when it comes to greener pastures, you all will die to get the America visa

There is nothing greener about hypocrisy. It shows we love USA. Only Friends criticises objectively. Fake friends like you are the real enemies. You see the truth but you are so scared of saying it because of what you will eat

BabaIbo:
Keep quiet please, you are ignorant on the topic being discussed.

You don't have a point at all, Osama traveled, lived and enjoyed USA but that doesn't stop him from carrying how those acts against USA.
Muhammad(that guy that failed in his terrorist attack) is a citizen of USA(if I am not wrong), but he qlmost attacked the USA, and many others.

I actually blamed the other guy for prolonging the argument with you.

I don't argue from a point of sentiment.. I could see your intelligence can't go beyond this point. You can resume discussing NURTW crisis. That will be a better fit for you

Frankiss44:
Your hate for America has overshadowed your ability to think critically.. Wallow in your ignorance

I am typing this from los Angeles and I was in Russia for the world cup. I love both countries. It is 3.57 am here in LA so I have a balanced view of the world unlike you

Sanchez01:
You just need to look for your economics teacher and hunt him/her down.

This frozen asset is as a result of a sanction. I'm sure you know what that means? Just as a sovereign government can stroll into another and start wreaking havoc is the same way another can sit on your resources/treasury in their land.

Re-read what you've written, take your time, go online and read more materials on nations, sanctions, debts and assets. Then come back for a sound argument and not this that looks like one cooked up fantasy in game house.

I hope this is not part of the explanations you were bragging about? When America strolled into Grenada on october 25, 1983 and killed civilians, bombed hospitals because they believed the regime was supported by Russia and Russia could use Grenada to invade america, who sanctioned them? The united nations voted against the illegal invasion by 109 to 8 yet civilians were bombed and regime changed. Who penalised them? Maybe you don't know... most of those debts are meant for the Americans and the Europeans and perhaps Chinese. So let them tell their govt to pay them from Russian money otherwise they should collect rubbles

dontai:
.But Russia can tell a sovereign country who to associate with, abi? two can play the game sir.

What are you even saying? America told a sovereign nation as recently as three years they don't recognize the president. They only recognized the opposition and they sanctioned them.. Venezuela. America told a sovereign nation they can't develop nuclear weapons.... IRAQ, north Korea. America invaded a sovereign nation with NATO ... Libya. Infact, on October 25, 1983, AMERICA INVADED GRENADA BECAUSE THE GOVT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH RUSSIA AND CUBA AND THEY BELIEVED RUSSIA COULD USE GRENADA TO ATTACK THE WEST

Frankiss44:
Don't blame anyone if you are sounding like novice.. If you think the dollar is only strong because it is used in doing business then you are not wise and I won't school you for free since you are a proud ignorant person .. You said the United state is the most in debited country that was why I brought in the dangote to show u in a lame man's term what debt is nothing if it can be serviced

The dollar is actually backed by nothing. It is just speculatory . The Americans print dollars at will backed by nothing. If the world and when the world dumps the use of dollars as the world's currency, American dollar won't be among the first ten.

Sanchez01:
Can someone please help me explain to this gentleman man? I'm tired already.

You have nothing to explain.. Just rambling.

Sanchez01:
You can't supposedly make a payment from a frozen asset. It's like owing and then the bank, CBN or EFCC had already frozen your account but then you tell your debtor "I have the money but can't touch it because it is frozen. However, I have written a cheque, now it is up to the CBN or EFCC (to unfreeze my account in order for my debt to be made) and they should be held responsible if my debt is not cleared." The payment is to be made in dollars....they are banned from transacting in dollars and you are saying the argument is not legit. So tell me what they should do? Print dollars?

I don't understand how these Russians think or do things.

Yes. It is very valid.. Who made america the efcc? Even if the Efcc freezes your account and you have debt obligations, just present evidence your account is frozen. No court in the world will penalize you for that.

murtalaa:
Is ICJ a political organisation again? Why would Russian judge be allowed to vote? Basic legal dictum would have precluded Russian judge from voting as it is a clear case of conflict of interest.

Yes . According to america, it is a political organisation.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1MD2CP

FERNANDEZISBACK:
At this moment Putin better get his head in order..
Whats the fuss all about..you can't win this war..tell your soldiers to go back home..
This invasion is illegal and unwarranted..stop trying too hard ..

According to united states of America, the world court is politicized. America even walked away from the world court so they won't prosecute their soldiers for atrocities commuted in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan. Same with isreal

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1MD2CP

izenco2005:
u run to comment, small time u will be writing progranda, u can compair Russia and Ukraine. But Ukraine try to protect their country. Imagine Russia begging China for help over small Ukraine shame on Putin

well I beg to differ here. Russia is actually fighting a proxy war against all NATO members. With all the economic sanctions and weapons being supplied to Ukraine, the war is against NATO by proxy so saying they are begging chinko over small Ukraine is like standing the truth on its head. They definitely need partners too. Why can't america face them alone. You should say ... shame on the west.. All of them are running hecter skelter over Russia. Combination of all the western powers... USA, BRITAIN, FRANCE , EU , AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND, CANADA... Abeg, RUSSIA try no be small

mrvitalis:
Which school did you go to again ?

oga stop embarrassing yourself. If you don't know something, learn. You don't have to know everything but be humble to admit when you dont know. You lost the argument... go home and fight another day. All these one sentence response is annoying Biko make we read other people's argument.. You don lose this one please

ednut1:
You have no means of repaying yet people borrow from there why Is that not criminal intent

So if something happens and you couldn't pay back then they should tag you as wanted criminal and send it all over social media and tag your contacts. You think it is everyone that couldn't pay that had the intention of not paying back? Why do we have laws? Both the lenders and the customer must be protected. You are operating an illegal loan app and you are still using illegal means to collect the loan back. They deserve wahtever they get

rickleye:
I see your point but in a developed country, this is not an Issue to start off with. I have been to my managers office with people and once I enter he says, Charles, could you do this or that. I look at my boss directly and if others make eye contact, i say hello. It is not written anywhere that I must greet my director, it just etiquette which should not get someone fired. The boss could have asked, if everything was well with him for his mind not to be here, was he depressed, death in the family better still look to inquire why the behaviour.
I know he comes across rude but to berate your employee infront of your guest is a power trip !

I agree with you.... You don't have to greet your boss although if it becomes persistent, it puts a strain on the work relationship. The problem here is.... the boss actually asked him why he didn't greet him meaning the boss was not expecting a confrontation. The OP immediately confronted the boss in the presence of others. If the boss didn't say anything, it is different. Finally, the culture abroad is different. You call everyone by their first names but not in Nigeria. The OP should have considered the environment and not disrespect the boss like that.

PeaceJoyLove:
You need help.

Learn to value yourself. Your kind is why Nigeria is backward. This is why I do not pity many people suffering because they are not ready to get out of that poverty. You are one.

No. It is your kind that makes Nigeria backward. OP is toxic.. That culture is not allowed in corporate world. It is menial jobs that people confront their bosses abroad. For most corporate jobs, you need reference for your next job. Nobody will employ you without a reference from your past employer. The OP may sue the employer.... that is his right. Good Luck getting another employer that knows you sued your former boss and will still put his head.

Nigerians misbehave because we lack the culture of reference and can easily forge it. If it were to be in a developed country, OP may never get a job in the corporate world again. Employers usually require recommendation from your previous supervisors. Your employment is subject to a good reference. Same with getting accommodation in some countries. New landlords will confirm from your old landlords your attitude and debt history. You may never get accommodation to rent in a good place again if your former landlord paint you badly. How can you say your mind is not at work in the presence of visitors? You don't even know wether they are new business partners, investors etc. We claim right while we are toxic. I pity your next employer because he has no way of cross checking your record from your previous place of work. You must work under people to learn and courtesy demands you greet them. Even if your boss is proud, it is not an excuse for you to be rude.