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JuanDeDios:
Your experience is your experience, and I'm not trying invalidate it. Neither can you invalidate mine. I've seen cultures that will bury newborns in the family plot. No, not ceremony or any fanfare. In the case I witnessed, the dead baby was brought from the hospital in a carton and placed on a seat in a room. Neighbours were coming in to console the family. Those who wished entered to take a look at the baby. Then one man remarked that the baby was killed, prompting the father to take another look.

If the above sounds far-fetched to you, i wonder why you expect people to believe that a family will take their newborn home, get a knife and do some butchering and then take it back to the hospital.

If you have that much experience and are being honest, you may agree that some terrible things have been done by hospital staff. Like I said, I hope they find the truth and only the guilty are punished.

Yes terrible things can be done by anyone including doctors or even pope. You see, the death of a day old baby can't be displayed for family members to be visiting.. They don't need knife for a day old baby. The baby quickly becomes macerated. They are soft. Infact, the baby you were talking about probably became macerated and you assumed the hospital disfigured it. The body starts peeling. Family members can easily pull the nose and it becomes torn. Finally, in the case you were talking about, if the baby died inside and was already macerated, if the nurses delivered it per vagina, the process of pulling can deform the baby ( more common than you think in IUFD) Usually, the family members are always called to see the baby and everything before they pack the baby.
In Nigeria, we have so many late presentations with babies dying inside the womb and seriously macerated with the bodies peeled. IF IT WAS DISCOVERED IMMEDIATELY AND THE HOSPITAL HAS NO EXPLANATION, I WILL AGREE WITH YOU. COMING BACK AFTER 24HRS, Without asking the hospital to explain what happened first with police is enough for me to make my conclusion. Like you said, I can't take away your own cultural experience so I agree with you. Cheers

JuanDeDios:
I'm only responding because you said you worked in the health sector here. You, sir, have it all wrong. Yes, the instances you cited are correct, but CULTURES vary. Some families will never let go of it and will bury it in a family plot. You just don't get it so only your reality is real to you. Seen cultures where they conduct an elaborate burial for a dead pet lizard?

Anyway, I hope them police don't have a fixed mindset on the matter and do a thorough investigation so that only the guilty are punished.

There is no culture that dresses a dead fetus . None in Nigeria. They can do burial ceremony for a 6 months old in some cultures but never a dead fetus. You are telling me I am wrong in a profession I spent fifteen years practicing in nigeria. I can tell you what a patient will do ahead. Without any iota of exaggeration, I've attended to the deliveries of more than 20,000 babies in Nigeria . I have seen any culture you can imagine. I worked in the rural North, worked in lagos, worked for government, worked in the military hospital, worked in private hospitals, owned a clinic and you still think I wouldn't know cultures about dead fetus. The parents were lying. This is an old trick I've seen more than once. Ask the hospital....they refused to release the dead fetus till they paid. Nigerians assume once the relative is dead, the hospital shouldn't collect money .You become their enemy when you ask them to clear their bills.

JuanDeDios:
Bolded is exactly what happened in a case I witnessed. Time to bury the baby and someone raised the alarm that the baby was killed. It's easy for you to sit here and be forming the Jagaban of questions until you experience it (I pray you don't).

Sit where? You are telling lies. We are talking of a one day old baby that never lived here. This is not a child. This is a baby that died at the point of birth. I practiced for fifteen years as a doctor before leaving Nigeria, I have never seen anyone that ever ever dressed a day old baby ( dead fetus) They commonly put then inside polythene bag and bury them. Some people even throw them away. Hospitals don't even need to hide to steal eyes if it is for one day old baby. Many parents beg you that they don't know what to do with it that you should help them to dispose it, we always refused. Stop all these bandwagon crucifixion of professionals working hard to save. I CAN TELL YOU FOR FREE....THE HOSPITAL INSISTED ON BALANCE PAYMENT BEFORE DISCHARGE. They came back to punish them. This is an old trick to punish hospital. The police know but they will extort them before releasing them.

oz4real83:
you need to take your drugs this morning before you leave home. If you should leave home with this your madness, the level of nonsense that will come out from you today will be unprecedented.

Rather, I am the one that will dispense the drug for you. We have so many online ignoramus in that yeye country. Fools like you that never bothered to listen to the other side of the story. You have never seen a dead fetus in your life not to talk of a probably macerated baby for over 24hrs and they now brought it claiming the eyes and the noses were gorged out and you ran with it without reasonable line of questioning. The money you were supposed to use to go to school you used it to buy android and started typing rubbish early in the morning.

kumbhuru:
They're quick to call them nurses. Not all people on whites in hospitals are nurses. Even if they do nurses duties. They are quacks. No registered nurse would do thag6.

They are not quacks. They are now regularly employed in UK as healthcare assistants. I mean the so called auxiliary nurses from Nigeria. I know at least three that has migrated to UK as hospital support worker with NHS. They are part of the team. When you get out of the country, you will be humbled. Everyone is important. You don't need to call anyone quack. We call them auxiliary nurses in Nigeria, they call them support worker abroad. The govt is the one that has failed to regulate the sector so that no one go above his or her limit. Many of the so-called registered nurses do what is beyond them in Nigeria making them quacks too...in your language.

oz4real83:
emotions can make you lose your sense of observation sometimes. The family won't have time to imagine such thing would have happened when they have all been swallowed in tears and sorrow by the bad news of losing a loved one. Don't blame the family, blame humans who have become heartless all because of some paper called money.

Stop saying thrash. After 24hrs, did they want to dress the fetus that now made them to examine the fetus? Have you seen a dead fetus before to know how it looks? The hospital most likely insisted on balance payment before releasing them. They came back devilishly to punish them. These are the reasons hospitals insist on deposits and you people will be making mouth like fools that Nigerian doctors like money in Emergencies.

Lies. The hospital probably insisted on their balance payment before releasing the dead baby. As a punishment, they probably went to remove those organs themselves. Why didn't they bury the fetus for close to 24hrs? Were they going to do burial ceremony or what? They know Nigerians will quickly rush to blame the hospital. No wonder UK registered 200 Nigerian doctors in just one month. Very soon, everyone will run away. Make una dey frustrate all your professionals out.

[quote author=Rubyjade post=116849528][/quote]Very easy scenario. The way you know wether your question is inappropriate is if there is only one expected answer. Let me ask you this question. If the MD answered and say, NO, WE DONT WORK AS TEAM, what would you say? At that moment, you would probably know you failed the interview because that would be a sarcastic answer. Why ask a question you know the answer can't possibly be No?

Witnesstony28:
I had this sexual encounter with a girl without condom in February of this year and since then my health has not been the same.

After 2 weeks of meeting her, I started feeling sick, had rashes at the back of both of my legs, tired almost all the time, sore throat, and since then I have taken all sorts of drug - orthodox and trado but yet no response.

I have to gone for several test. One result Said beta hemolytic streptococcus pyogenese was seen in my urine culture and I was given erythromycin and augmentin for 2 weeks. I felt a little relief. Then I started having tongues thrush.

It's almost 6 months now and I have not felt any better.

I have had HIV test done severally but all come back negative.

But my worry is, I still feel sick. What could this disease be.

The girl confessed that she only has what they call - heat. That's my first time hearing this.
I stay in ik and really need help. I sincerely regret that sexual encounter and wish I could retrace my steps.

Someone help!!!

Run HIV, treponema test for syphilis, First pass urine for Chlamydia and gonorhea NAAT and Hepatitis B

olajide21:
It's been ages since I read a reasonable comment such as yours on this forum. You're obviously thinking like a better by far person!

Says a Jidahist whose 40percent of posts on nairaland is against Christianity. Hypocrite. My joy is that the bullet of Boko Haram can't always differentiate between Muslims and christians so whatever evil you wish christians will still come visiting on you

aariwa:
Exactly. A lot of these guys came with rubbish theories they can’t substantiate but let us look at the voting pattern of the north.In 2011 Jonathan won north because they saw him as a credible candidate.In 2015 buhari won because he was a better candidate.In 2019 Atiku got a lot of votes from north because they believe he was better than buhari based on how his vice Obi was projecting him and he was given a brand name atikulate (same way the movement Obi as obidient) .Based on how how Nigeria is today, Obi is the most credible of the candidates.A lot of them who have heard his messages have started rooting for him already based on what I see , a lot lean towards him as against the other two but still suspicious waiting for anything that may fault their belief in him before Election Day

in as much as I would prefer Obi to win, you are obviously a joker, more like a comedian.. However, if you are serious and what you wrote here is not comedy.. then you better apply to Disneyland. You will be a good director in their fantasyland. This is hilarious

arantess:
Rustu recber...not one eyed, just paint work under his eyes

I know.... that was what we were calling him

My best world Cup. I remember their match against turkey with that one eyed goal keeper. It was one hell of a tournament. Can I forget Ronaldinho goal against england with that free kick? Or the injury of beckam prior to the world cup? Or the goal of Larson against Nigeria or the Bleep up of Argentina team with their star studded team or the surprise of the tournament.....SENEGAL !!!! Whaoh....I need that tournament back. The beginning of fans area for watching football outside of stadium.

Yeyeoldman:
Are Nigerians daft or what? You people really think the British are stupid? Has any of you even thought about the possibility that Sen. Ekweremadu help him procure the said passport? The way we limit our scope of reasoning makes you wonder if we are even normal at all. Does the fact that the passport states that the Vulnerable young man is 22 make any difference if Ekweremadu used his influence in getting the passport? I keep saying this, Nigerians are not ready to fight and end corruption. They are just angry that they not benefitting from the corrupt system. Selfish and Greedy people. There is nothing they can't justify.

You are the one that is likely daft here. Inferiority complex has killed your generation. The first sentence you concluded your country men are daft. The next sentence you concluded the British can't be stupid. What is wrong with you? You are a human being like them. Stop this worship of anything in white colour. You are also made in the beautiful image of God. Even the brother of the boy said he is 25yrs. His BVN done since 2019 showed he is 22yrs but the British can't be stupid while Nigerians are daft. Grow up

dru23:
It was not my fight to fight. It was our fore fathers collectively should have fought the fight and win. It was their job to pave a way for the new generations so that life will be easier.. But they lost that fight and the new generations are suffering for it ..

Most of these so call leaders making the country unbearable are our father's mate and grandfather.. When the fighting was going on, many of us were too young to understand


Unfortunately they lost war and the fight .. We are now paying for it .. The next generation after us, what are we leaving behind for them? What sacrifice are we going to make for them to have a better country and future? Or do we expect them to fight the fight that we ourself should have fought and won?


My point here freedom is not free.. People will have to fight to be free.. People will have to die for freedom so that the next generation will be free.......

If the black slaves and civil leaders in the USA didn't fight to be free from oppression do you think Black Americans and black immigrants will be enjoying freedom today.....

They fought so that we can be free despise the odds stack against them.......

During slavery in the USA some slaves wanted to fight and run away .. And many wanted to revolt and others wanted to continue been a slave.. Because they were either too scared or they were born into slavery and never experience what freedom is ......


You my friend you are 1 of the many of them.. You don't want freedom, you are happy how the Fulani are oppressing you and even your own tribe.. Coz u never experience how things should work when u have a working government ....


Let Ukraine people fight for their next generation and for their homeland.. If they lose the war, it will be in the History book that they fought a good fight and they fought to the very end........

So your fore- fathers should have fought the war... when. they failed you, they took away your own boxing gloves and the next thing is for you to run away and blame others? The ukrainans that you are cheering, why are they not blaming their own fore fathers? Since you know your own fore fathers failed you, why are you blaming people in Nigeria for not sacrificing their children to go and fight a senseless war for you while you cheer them up on nairaland as brave people fighting for freedom? Your mates are leaving their comforts behind in America, UK to join the fight In Ukraine and previously Syria, what stopped you from doing the same? Hypocrite

dru23:
Nigeria problem is ur problem.. Lucky for me I don't have to deal with.. If Nigeria decides to split now now now, it will not affect me or my family. I don't live in Nigeria.. But am compassionate enough for the people that live there..

Nigeria is a mess politically ... Until people are willing to die and fight for equality, freedom and natural resources shared equally etc. Nigeria will never be free .....

The British are no longer ruling Nigeria, face and fight the people that are ruling you.. Until than na suffering and smiling..

You are a foool!!! You kept running your mouth like someone with watery diarrhoea calling people cowards for not fighting Fulani while you ran away. Why can't you lead the fight instead of running away? The same way wicked people like you are hailing Ukraine to keep wasting their citizens while you cheer them up from a distance calling them brave while you are holed up washing plates in one third world western country. If you are truly brave , you will stay in your country, fight the Fulani, lead the war and even become a minister instead of washing plates to survive in another man's land

advanceDNA:
I have looked it from Russia’s angle...and I don’t think it’s fair for Russia to want to impose its view on another sovereign nation....

Let me ask you...if Ukraine were Nigeria...what will your opinion be...truthfully.??

If Ukraine were Nigeria and Russia were USA, what will be your opinion? If Ukraine were Syria and Russia were isreal that kept bombing Syria to prevent them from getting weapons to destroy Isreal, what will be your opinion?

sotall:
You just deviated from the point he made and went off-point all through.

How would China not blink to take side with Russia?

The West and Russia, who is a more important trade partner to China?

Use your brain if you have one.

So why did china tell USA yesterday they are yet to send ammunitions to Russia but they are not ruling it out in the future? Just Google the comment of Chinese ambassador to USA yesterday. China has been conducting military exercise with Russia for decades. And why should China support the west? ...when they have the west stoking TAIWAN AGAINST THEM. The same thing that Russia is doing , China did it politically in Hong Kong. They changed the regime to someone that is more friendly to china. The west started banning Hong Kong, gave Hong Kong citizens free visa to UK, encouraged them to protest. This is less than two years ago. So you think China is dumb? Support the west so they can do same thing to them when they are done with Russia? Finally, Trump fought a trade war with china already. Australia, Canada is perpetually banning Chinese products, invoking trade barriers... you think because everyone is talking about Russia now, china has forgotten or what? China won't blink eye to support Russia. They have more to gain from supporting Russia than the west

DukeNija:
Even a 10years old child knows that there will be temporal discomfort for a greater good. Did you see the approval ratings despite the increased gas prices? People are more than happy to pay more to Bleep off Russian gas. Who cares about Sri Lanka? Lol
Germany just signed a gas deal with Qatar, expect more to come in the following months but one thing is certain, the Ruble and Russian economy will finished.

What you fail to realise is that it is always the two sides of a coin. Same way India is planning to buy Russian oil. Same way Russians will suffer temporal discomforts for self sufficiency later. It happened in Japan after world war. Same with Germany. Both became leaders at the turn of the century for technological innovation. The approval rate is only high in the west. Most other countries are evenly divided about the war. Finally, once inflation sets in, protests and disapproval will eventually come from the west . It is always like that. They supported Vietnam at first, when it dragged.. they started protesting against it. Same with Korea war. Same reason Biden ran away from Afghanistan and gifted war machines to talibans. Wars are popular initially, people get tired in the long run. In the end, the world will move on.... rather than Russia, it is Ukraine that will suffer the most . They are not wise

DukeNija:
The West is the biggest trade partner of both China, India and Russia. You don’t understand the buying power of the West hence your narrative.
Russia losing Germany alone will highly impact its GDP now add Belgium, UK, Netherlands and Poland to the mix. Oil and gas accounts for 60% of Russian revenue from exports. Go figure.
China is wary of joining forces or providing logistical support to Russia for one reason, trade partnership with the West.

You people will just sit down in the corner of your house and be analysing . China is weary because of the west ? So you think they can just cut off the oil and gas like that without the west suffering massive inflation? Maybe you should go and see the protest in Spain yesterday about high inflation and cost of fuel. Two people died in Sri Lanka on the queue for fuel. The war is just one month and america is suffering the highest inflation in 30yrs. Just be watching CNN and be giving beer parlour analysis. China won't blink eye to take sides with Russia when it gets to the stage. Finally, even the small Iran that was sanctioned by USA is being cajoled to take back another deal for lifting the sanction. Stay there and be reading only BBC

Skyfornia:
The way Russian economy will crumble in the nearest future will put them at the top of the poorest countries. Except the sanctions are revoked.

Winning the war is not all about killings and bombings...

That may not always be the case. Infact, it can make them become very self sufficient in the long run because they have both the brains and the technology. It is not every country you can stiffen with sanctions. Other countries are watching... Everyone will soon start finding a way to wean their economy from the west. New alliances are coming

Sanchez01:
I mean, you easily take the crown in the ranks of the Putin boys but let me break it down to you.

1. Russia approached American business lenders for loans (bonds).
2. Russia chose to denominate their bond in Dollars, meaning they will also pay interests in Dollars.
3. Russia signed a contract, offering some of its assets as collateral in case it defaults totally and is unable to pay back the loans (bonds).
4. If Russia defaults, interests on the bonds will shoot through the roof.
5. When it does, Russia would be in trouble as the lenders will declare Russia a defaulter.
6. If No 5 happens, the lenders will seize Russia's assets used as collaterals in securing the bonds.
7. The assets, depending on the terms of the contract signed could be in Russia or outside of Russia.
8. Note that the lenders here are not the United States government or its close tied agencies. They are financial institutions operating in the United States and could be owned by Americans.


Just take your time, think for a minute and digest the points above. Perhaps you will understand better.

You have said nothing.. Just assumptions.. It is not American business... it is sovereign bond. Read about it first. Nigeria issues it regularly. We also issue euro bond. Even Nigerian citizens can buy Nigerian sovereign bonds so that bond is held by millions of people and institutions worldwide. The bond is backed by nothing. It is not collateralized. It is usually based on the good faith that a country will pay back because it is a country. So they didn't approach American business for any loans. Stop your ignorance. Now, many of the external bonds are usually denominised in dollars or euro.... that is normal since dollar was adopted as international currency... which will soon change based on emerging trends. Russia can only pay in dollars. Russia is banned from transacting in dollars and they default... everyone knows why they default. It is not because they don't have, it is because they are banned. That is part of the risk associated with investment. Sovereign bonds are relatively safe but it still has some risks like this. The only detriment is that once you default as a country, no one will invest in your next bond issue at least outside your country. However, everyone understands the reason for the default and if they issue a new bond, china will buy it. Chinese holds most of the USA bonds. If they dump it in the market, dollar will tank but america will keep printing artificial money. Anyway, I am talking in too technical details for you to comprehend. So Mr Efcc, there is no asset backing bond. It is backed by good faith that a country will pay back

BabaIbo:
Like I said, you don't have a point.
What does living in USA and going to Russia for world cup has to do with this discussion?
You were trying to show that since you live there, you can't hate them or you understand them.

You hate something but you can't do without it.

Why don't you travel to and live in Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, Russia, Afghanistan, Belarus and co, why USA?

Are we even sure it's not the usual Nairaland faceless people bragging?

Like I said earlier, you don't have any thing reasonable to say regarding this topic/matter.

Some of those NURTW members are way more fortunate than you in every aspect of life.
I have things to do please, so fu ck off!

If you are half as intelligent as I assumed, you will know that all the countries you mentioned above are under USA sanction. They destroy countries for personal interest. You are so naive so you won't know that Venezuela was once the second richest country in the world till the almighty USA sanctioned it. I've been to more than 70 countries in the world.... does that mean I can't do without all of them.. I've been to china more than I've been to USA and who told you I live in USA? Like I said, you are not even as intelligent as I assumed. If killing people to take over Garrage is what makes NURTW to be more fortunate, I refused to be as fortunate as they are. I don't need that kind of money. It shows your mentality. Just get the money anyhow.... wether america is killing people in the middle east or NURTW is killing to take over Garrage .... they are fortunate. Such an unfortunate citizen we have in this country is what you are

Sanchez01:
If Russia is unable to pay in Dollars, they will default without a doubt and that means their assets whether in Russia or outside of Russia will be seized on the spot and become the temporal assets of the lenders/investors.

You still don't understand why Russia is running helter skelter over this and it's strange that you don't understand what a sovereign default is capable of unleashing on any nation.

How? This guy is just spewing rubbish. All the assets are seized already... even the one belonging to oligarchs... private citizens. What assest do you now want to seize again.? Rather it is Russia than can nationalise companies like macdonald. Already, Russia already told airlines not to return planes they leased. They should be flying it for free for now. You want to take over assets you have already taken over?

Frankiss44:
That's the issue with you guys.. You hate the US so much and hype these communist countries.. But when it comes to greener pastures, you all will die to get the America visa

There is nothing greener about hypocrisy. It shows we love USA. Only Friends criticises objectively. Fake friends like you are the real enemies. You see the truth but you are so scared of saying it because of what you will eat

BabaIbo:
Keep quiet please, you are ignorant on the topic being discussed.

You don't have a point at all, Osama traveled, lived and enjoyed USA but that doesn't stop him from carrying how those acts against USA.
Muhammad(that guy that failed in his terrorist attack) is a citizen of USA(if I am not wrong), but he qlmost attacked the USA, and many others.

I actually blamed the other guy for prolonging the argument with you.

I don't argue from a point of sentiment.. I could see your intelligence can't go beyond this point. You can resume discussing NURTW crisis. That will be a better fit for you

Frankiss44:
Your hate for America has overshadowed your ability to think critically.. Wallow in your ignorance

I am typing this from los Angeles and I was in Russia for the world cup. I love both countries. It is 3.57 am here in LA so I have a balanced view of the world unlike you