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ajumma:
Dignified you with response ??
same league with porn star

The guy you are calling a porn star here is a plastic surgeon. He is Dr Rasheed . Coincidentally, he was my classmate and we are presently in the same WhatsApp group. Idiot!

ajumma:
suddenly they disappeared like a ghost
Online editor

Boy, you don't deserve my time. Once again, I wish to inform you, your argument is dumb and unimaginative. Maybe, if I help you to put comma after the 'YOU', your dull brain may reset. You must have a very low self esteem to be craving attention all over the thread. Your utterances have shown you are not intelligent or educated enough to command a further response from me.

ajumma:
@bold me laugh for sabinus
even auxiliary nurses or obioma /nwa chemist boys do not referred all cases
you mean ordinary malaria or common cold.
the Quack in you is so unimaginable as you tend to advertised your idiocy

The boldness with which you construct your grammatical errors is what impresses me. Nevertheless, I wish to inform you your argument is dumb and unimaginative. Although the person you are arguing with is obviously not a doctor otherwise he wouldn't have engaged you this much.

Sensational reporting without any iota of evidence.
1) The reporter didn't confirm wether the guy is actually a doctor.
2) Appendix is clearly different from the ovaries. If he is a doctor, he will definitely know.
3) Absence of ovaries on routine ultrasound scan does not mean the doctor removed the ovaries. Sometimes, the person doing the ultrasound may be inexperienced etc Will he remove the two ovaries at the same time? The worst thing that could have happened was that he would remove the right sided ovary where the appendix is usually located. He won't likely have access to the left ovary so that one will be intact. If the left ovary is intact, why won't she menstruate? She may be having primary ovarian failure that is not related to the surgery.
By and large, reporters should stop this kind of one sided reporting without full investigation. The doctor won't be able to respond because you have to maintain confidentiality regardless of the accusation. He will only be able to discuss details with a properly constituted medical inquiry. Stop online accusation without finding out facts

abbey621:
Part of the blame, yes! Criminal charges.....Hell no! Too bad your opinion does not equate to legal facts, so let me be in peace......you are arguing based on some dumb shit and no matter how much you repeat the same lines, it still does not make it FACTS......Get over yourself!

Typical over hyped ego of anyone that found himself in America and then assumed that is where the world ends. In America, the parents would be thoroughly investigated and likely face criminal charges. You are the one that should get over yourself. This is not your father's public page. You can't be spewing rubbish and refuse to learn and assume you can shout your way through. In my career as a cruise ship doctor, I've sailed the carribean more than 20 times with mainly American patients and they have this rigid mentality though your own is artificial and borne out of the need to show off. Most European patients on cruise ships are well mannered, appreciates you and don't believe the world ends in their backyard. The best are the Japanese. You will tell an American patient I need to disembark you at the next port for an emergent care and they will say, you can't do this to me. You are spoiling my vacation. I'm gonna sue you. A British patient will say thank you doctor, I understand..Go out and learn

abbey621:
You're an idiot! I don't know how else to put it, we are talking about the topic of this post on Nairaland you are here writing an epistle......Like I said earlier, I don't have time for your nonsense talk. You are talking about a greater debate, I am talking about response to those who claim the parents should face criminal charges, if the doctor is the expert and they listened tio the expert, how are they culpable? I keep telling you dipshits that I have no interest in the greater debate but you keep repeating the same broken tune......GTFO and let me be!

Sane country citizen...go back and read what you just wrote and no one will tell you who the IDIOOT is ! When brainless people loses an argument, they start cursing. The parents share a significant part of the blame . Cursing people won't make you look less stuupid

abbey621:
No topic is about the doctor and the fact that the kid was not taken to the hospital, at least that's what I got from the opening post. I think you're focusing on the bigger thesis and for that I want no part of....lol.

I just decided to ignore later because you appear very clueless. The topic is never about the doctor. Both the family, the govt( at least for now and the school are not blaming the doctor. The doctor's line of care is yet to come under scrutiny by any of the parties so this has nothing to do with the doctor. The doctor only came in because he testified that he treated the boy at home at first and then the family took the boy to church. You kept talking about having a home care in America and I had to give up. Home care is for stable patient or palliative care. If a doctor is treating your child at home and the baby suddenly could no longer breathe after the doctor left, does that mean you will take the baby to church and then start saying the doctor did not inform you ? What part of the word deterioration don't you understand? If I am treating you and your case deteriorated at home, you mean you will stay there and die because I didn't tell you to go to hospital? This is common sense. Even at that, the parents never said the doctor didn't advise them to take the child to the hospital. You are the one that started the assumption and you were running with it. In any sane country, the intent of taking the child to church when the case deteriorated rather than hospital is the only thing that matters. The parent knew the boy was not getting well...that was why they took him to church. They also did video that was so obvious the boy needed hospital care. You saw all these, you neglected them. The only thing that matters to you is the fact that the doctor treated him once at home. What you are saying is not practical and a normal parent can't follow that route. You said three people mentioned something....and you immediately assumed the three must be wrong while you are the only one that is right. I told you I am a doctor...you were mentioning your family so that gave you the professional qualification to say what you don't know. Read, learn..This is about the school mainly. If the doctor that saw at first confirmed his condition was not bad to warrant admission, you can't blame the school at the time they told the parent to come and take their child to hospital. The school specifically told them to go to hospital...they went for home care. The school is at least exonerated and no matter what, the parents have cases to answer. Wether the doctor is guilty of malpractice is subject to investigation of the line of care and events antecedent . Nevertheless, the doctor's culpability does not exonerate the parent's carelessness

abbey621:
Both the links you shared has nothing to do with this discussion since a physician/medical expert was involved. What is a physician? Is he not a doctor? By all standards, he is the expert and no law in the entire world can criminalize a parent for taking the advice of a physician. The rest of the nonsense you typed I can't be bothered with since I don't know who you are fighting with, who dey follow you drag school or government? My point still remains you cannot claim parents were negligent when they had a physician attending to their son, unlike you I do live in a sane country and no law can criminalize their actions due to the physician's own explanation, so spare me the jargon.....PEACE!

sane country? And you don't know the parent will be in jail already. I have practicing license as a doctor in both Australia and Ireland and I can assure you, from the day that child died in Australia, child protection services would have arrested the parent and the remaining children will presently be in protective custody so I don't know which sane country you are.

abbey621:
I think you're confused, when did you & I discussed closing the school or anything that has to do with the school....Please stay focused and stop rambling. My main point of contention with you is that you claim they refused the doctor's advice or that they were negligent enough to warrant arrest or prosecution.

You are the confused fellow here. They are not negligent yet they went to church rather than hospital and you are blaming the doctor. At first it was the school, then the govt bribed everyone and now it is the doctor. Show me the evidence that the pastor advised them to come to church . So they knew they could go to church for admission but they were waiting for the doctor before going to hospital and you don't think they are negligent. In a normal country, they will both be awaiting trial.
see their mate here ....
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/100296174
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-15/woman-jailed-for-endangering-daughter-toowoomba/100296174

abbey621:
You're quoting rubbish which has nothing to do with this case, first of all can you provide evidence that the doctor advised them and they refused? Una go just dey type nonsense all in the name of trying to sound intelligent!

Let me even assume you are very intelligent. Since the doctor didn't advise them to admit the patient, does that not mean at the time the doctor was seeing the patient, the patient was not clinically bad. If a doctor didn't think the condition of the child was bad even after leaving the school, why are you people jumping up and down that the school must be closed. Did the doctor also advise them to do video of the sick boy in pains? They did the video because they knew the boy was seriously sick yet they were waiting for the doctor to tell them to go to hospital. Did anyone advise them before taking the child to church too? So they were waiting for the doctor to advise them but they didn't wait for the pastor to advise them.

OR THE PASTOR CANT COME AND BE PRAYING FOR THE BOY AT HOME TOO?

So they knew the boy was sick enough to warrant admission in the church but they were waiting for doctor to advise them that the boy need admission in church.Just tell me the parents are dumb. That is what you are trying to say here.

So, if your own child is in that kind of pain, you will stay at home and be waiting for the doctor to come and advise you to stop doing video and take the child to hospital. GO AND BURN DOWN THE SCHOOL. THAT IS JUSTICE!!!! Are you now happy?

abbey621:
Can you quote the law that you speak of? A physician operates according to certain ethical codes and one of it is do no harm, what the f**k do you mean the child presented malaria symptoms? Based on what? Physician is the expert here, he should have been the one to advise hospitalization immediately. Please don't speak of abroad as if it is one magical place, I've been abroad for a decade and some years now and we have doctors making house calls all the time, it is the job of the expert to insist on emergency protocols. No law abroad would jail such a parent, I repeat no law!

You are naive. By now, the parent would have been arrested by child protection services. I can show you more than ten cases involving such negligent parents. The doctor is not a magician. You can treat malaria today and the child can have infection tommorrow. The doctor only needed to advise them and document... if the parent refused, he couldn't do anything. If he suspected the child's case was serious and the parent were negligent, he might report but in Nigeria, there is no clear cut person to report to and unlike abroad where the parent don't have to pay, the parent have to pay for medical services in Nigeria so if they Insist they don't want admission there is nothing the doctor would do because he won't use his money to be treating the patient.

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/child-neglect-when-is-it-a-crime-50439

sisisioge:
Millions on the line...the school will not accept liability. Who should we blame? Let's blame the grieving parents! The question is....how did an healthy boy became so sick that he needed hospital gravely in your care dear school? Enlarged liver....how

All those responsible for the boy's death will know no peace!

Stop the ignorance please. Common malaria can cause your liver to enlarge. Anyone can fall sick. The school is not heaven that people don't fall sick. Yes!!! The grieving parent that was called by the school to come pick their sick child and then refused taking him to hospital . They took him to church for days, did video and never sought medical treatment till he died so they are very culpable too even though we sympathise with them. Funny enough, they blamed everyone except the pastor that took in a very sick child for days without seeking medical care yet it is the school that told them to take their child to the hospital that must be blamed.
NB- Liver enlargement is not a diagnosis and it is not uncommon. It is usually an inflammatory response to so many things.....malaria, infections, cancers, drugs etc can cause liver to enlarge..It doesn't mean the liver is damaged.

Jondelng:
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I don't get the furour over Tinubu’s certificate. I am not a Tinubu apologetic, but for someone to have work with Arthur Andersen, Deloitte, Mobil oil all international companies, and then you still claim he has no certificate?
I want to question your intelligence.

Actually, it doesn't matter. If Tinubu wants to relocate to Canada, they wil still ask WESS to verify his certificate. If you are also applying to be Nigerian president, even if you have worked with Google, you still need your certificate verified. Why don't you question the intelligence of the Canadian, Australian etc that knows you have years of experience and still verify your certificate?

Alba3:
Ibo lo ti a l'ekiti? Busted!

lol. Have you heard of USI ekiti? The home town of babalola borisade, former aviation/education minister, in ido/osi local govt, ekiti north senatorial District? Usi Oro, omo atoko bo, moun sibi Kan ni !!?

Alba3:
The last I checked Igbos have been the majority contestants from many parties in the presidential elections in Nigeria, just check 2007 contestants and they all lost. If Yoruba contest and loose, there's no big deal in that. This your mind game is childish.

look at this one. You think I am Ibo..You are the childish one here. I am yorub, omo.ekiti kete....just go and sit down. It is not everyone that don't support your candidate that is Ibo.

Deadlytruth:
See goalpost shifter ooooo! You said all it takes the North to vote for their own is for that one of theirs to be in any ticket of any party against any Southerner, but once your hypothesis got bursted you quickly began to amend it by bringing in the issue of Tofa being an unknown entity. Why didn't you craft your initial claim as follows: "You think Fulanis will leave their own popular brother to vote for a Southerner?"
The truth is that MKO Abiola was a movement back then and no Northerner could have defeated him in that election. All before then his records of philanthropy even in the North couldn't be matched by any Northerner. It was just like how impossible it was for a Northerner to defeat Jonathan in 2011 due to some of his extremely compelling gestures of messiahship and ideal politicking e g. his attitude of congratulating the opposition wherever they won through the ballot or courts, his visits to the victims of disasters right inside their wards in the hospitals, his demonstrated listening ear by way of his immediate sack of Aondoakaa, his 2011 ambition declaration speech which enthralled nearly everyone into believing that an entirely New Nigeria totally devoid of the ugly past represented by Obasanjo and Yaradua was imminent, etc. Though he later backslid in all of that to the utter disappointment of the common man.
You are the indomie generation youth here else you would have also known that Atiku was by far stronger than Kingibe in the SDP but Abiola beat Atiku in the SDP primaries back then. Kingibe wasn't even known all over Nigeria the way Abiola already was.
Northerners aren't really as unreasonable as some of you assume. I lived among them for ten years and understand them a lot. Their culture promotes gratitude, commitment to values, loyalty to benefactors and deep reciprocative love for anyone who respects their culture and accepts the way they are without unduly deriding their ways of life. They only stop upholding all that during religious crisis which once over they revert immediately.

What are you even saying? Kingigbe wasn't known? The result of the primaries saw ABIOLA COMING FIRST WITH 3600 ballots, kingigbe was second with 3200 and run off was held between kingibe and Abiola and Abiola won..The only thing you wanted to say was that ATIKU WAS SUPPORTED BY YAARDUA who was already banned. ATIKU was not known nationally in 1993 but yaardua was known. ATIKU only belonged to that movement and it was still that movement that nominated him as Obasanjo's VP. The context to which I spoke is clear. We are here discussing Tinubu versus the popular northern candidates. If he can't prevent the pDP from nominating a popular northern candidate, he will find it difficult. To make things easy for ABIOLA, he quickly made kingibe that came second in the primaries his vice president and at that point, no new northern candidate was left. If babangida didn't ban yardua, Abiola won't have an easy path despite his philantropy

KINGIBE WAS THE NATIONAL CHAIRMAN OF SDP the platform that Abiola contested on and you are saying he wasn't known. He came very close to Abiola in the primaries and defeated ATIKU despite having no single bloc of supporters but clusters of supporters nationally

Honor10:
You will get sense in 2023.

I don't care anyway. I am.only pointing out facts to you. I have nothing to gain from anyone that wins. They are all the same.Just arrange your family out of the country for better life so there is no sense I am getting in 2023.

IF YOU WANT TO REPLICATE 1993, THEY WILL HAVE TO BAN ATIKU, SARAKI, TAMBUWAL etc ( the same way babangida banned yardua, Ciroma shinkafi) and then nominate garba shehu as the northern candidate. This was the exact scenario in 1993. Comparing present situation to that time is fooolish.

FINALLY, 1983- Yoruba candidate - Tears
1993- Yoruba candidate- Tears
2003- Yoruba son but not their candidate- Won
2023- Yoruba candidate-

Any year that ends with 3 has historically ended in tears for Yoruba candidates

Emekaonline:
So they are zombie when they abandoned Tofa and voted Abiola? You are politically unintelligent obviously

There was no TOFA. He was never a candidate. He was brought from nowhere. Babangida banned their candidates including Yardua, Ciroma, shinkafi. You guys are not intelligent at all. These are two scenarios. You need to know there was need to compensate the south too. The military had been in power since 1983 and prior to that, there was this thinking that shagari usurped the election of Awolowo so the same way they compensated us with the election of Obasanjo was what they wanted to do that time. This time around, there is no need to compensate a yoruba. Nigeria is now so divided and they no longer trust anyone. Anyway, if PDP gets a known candidate from the north, you will soon understand you have overrated tinubu

Honor10:
You are talking nonsense. If ethnic sentiment matters to north as you are potraying then they will vote him ahead of anyone from other region even if the person from the north is a cow.

Keep shut. The hausas didn't even know TOFa. Why would they vote him? It was just because NRC must produce a candidate. It was a one way traffic for Abiola. Kingigbe carried more weight and he was already abiola's deputy and he belonged to the powerful yardua group controlling the north as at then..Ciroma and co also endorsed him. That time too, Nigeria was not polarised along ethnic line this. There was no ighoho, no kanu and no suicide bombing. This is very very different

Deadlytruth:
Didn't they leave their brother Alhaji Bashir Tofa and voted in bloc for Abiola?

Why are you guys like this? let me copy the response I gave to your fellow indomie generation.

I guess you were a a baby in 1993. Tofa was a joker . He did not even know the price of petrol. He didn't know dollar conversion to naira. He was just like a spoilt brat. The only person that could have challenged abiola was kingigbe and he was made his deputy..TOFA was an unknown person suddenly emerging as a candidate. He didn't have any television campaign until a week before and there was no internet then. TOFA was not a northern candidate. If you are comparing ATIKU or tambuwal to TOFA you are a baby ..an indomie generation
Read a little about him here. The guy was an unknown Kano boy that came from nowhere. You are comparing him to ATIKU. ? you are definitely an indomie generation. https://thenationonlineng.net/bashir-tofa-what-manner-of-man/

Honor10:
So how come Fulani leave his brother in 1993 to vote for Abiola? Always use your brain before asking question?

I guess you were a a baby in 1993. Tofa was a joker . He did not even know the price of petrol. He didn't know dollar conversion to naira. He was just like a spoilt brat. The only person that could have challenged abiola was kingigbe and he was made his deputy..TOFA was an unknown person suddenly emerging as a candidate. He didn't have any television campaign until a week before and there was no internet then. TOFA was not a northern candidate. If you are comparing ATIKU or tambuwal to TOFA you are a baby ..an indomie generation
Read a little about him here. The guy was an unknown Kano boy that came from nowhere. You are comparing him to ATIKU. ? you are definitely an indomie generation. https://thenationonlineng.net/bashir-tofa-what-manner-of-man/

contigiency:
No problem, it will still not make them to win. As far as voting in Nigeria is still largely done by village old men and women and it still reflects party structure, APC will still win them with a very wide margin regardless of who they choose. On the other hand, It fits especially my Igbo brothers who were busy picking quarrels with some of us for identifying with APC. To them, we are zombies and Efulefu. Today, between us and them who does those names fits very well?

You are saying rubbish. You think.an average Fulani will leave his brother to vote Tinubu or what? You are short sighted. You think this is about IBO/Yoruba rather than north/ south

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