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rayenigma:
hello everyone,pls is there any nairalander that can lend me 50k to pay back 60k by next week...I'm based in Lagos.

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ajumma:
henchman doing dirty laundry
still waiting for your responses

na so you for take quenched for wetin no concern you

dan iska kowai

whaoh. You need psychiatric evaluation. You may not know it now but you will soon become fully schizophrenic. You have a paranoid for seeking attention and validation and you will most likely be suffering from OCD too because it is closely related to this. If you don't seek help early, you will eventually be awarded a permanent home at ARO

ajumma:
Dignified you with response ??
same league with porn star

The guy you are calling a porn star here is a plastic surgeon. He is Dr Rasheed . Coincidentally, he was my classmate and we are presently in the same WhatsApp group. Idiot!

ajumma:
suddenly they disappeared like a ghost
Online editor

Boy, you don't deserve my time. Once again, I wish to inform you, your argument is dumb and unimaginative. Maybe, if I help you to put comma after the 'YOU', your dull brain may reset. You must have a very low self esteem to be craving attention all over the thread. Your utterances have shown you are not intelligent or educated enough to command a further response from me.

ajumma:
@bold me laugh for sabinus
even auxiliary nurses or obioma /nwa chemist boys do not referred all cases
you mean ordinary malaria or common cold.
the Quack in you is so unimaginable as you tend to advertised your idiocy

The boldness with which you construct your grammatical errors is what impresses me. Nevertheless, I wish to inform you your argument is dumb and unimaginative. Although the person you are arguing with is obviously not a doctor otherwise he wouldn't have engaged you this much.

Sensational reporting without any iota of evidence.
1) The reporter didn't confirm wether the guy is actually a doctor.
2) Appendix is clearly different from the ovaries. If he is a doctor, he will definitely know.
3) Absence of ovaries on routine ultrasound scan does not mean the doctor removed the ovaries. Sometimes, the person doing the ultrasound may be inexperienced etc Will he remove the two ovaries at the same time? The worst thing that could have happened was that he would remove the right sided ovary where the appendix is usually located. He won't likely have access to the left ovary so that one will be intact. If the left ovary is intact, why won't she menstruate? She may be having primary ovarian failure that is not related to the surgery.
By and large, reporters should stop this kind of one sided reporting without full investigation. The doctor won't be able to respond because you have to maintain confidentiality regardless of the accusation. He will only be able to discuss details with a properly constituted medical inquiry. Stop online accusation without finding out facts

abbey621:
Part of the blame, yes! Criminal charges.....Hell no! Too bad your opinion does not equate to legal facts, so let me be in peace......you are arguing based on some dumb shit and no matter how much you repeat the same lines, it still does not make it FACTS......Get over yourself!

Typical over hyped ego of anyone that found himself in America and then assumed that is where the world ends. In America, the parents would be thoroughly investigated and likely face criminal charges. You are the one that should get over yourself. This is not your father's public page. You can't be spewing rubbish and refuse to learn and assume you can shout your way through. In my career as a cruise ship doctor, I've sailed the carribean more than 20 times with mainly American patients and they have this rigid mentality though your own is artificial and borne out of the need to show off. Most European patients on cruise ships are well mannered, appreciates you and don't believe the world ends in their backyard. The best are the Japanese. You will tell an American patient I need to disembark you at the next port for an emergent care and they will say, you can't do this to me. You are spoiling my vacation. I'm gonna sue you. A British patient will say thank you doctor, I understand..Go out and learn

abbey621:
You're an idiot! I don't know how else to put it, we are talking about the topic of this post on Nairaland you are here writing an epistle......Like I said earlier, I don't have time for your nonsense talk. You are talking about a greater debate, I am talking about response to those who claim the parents should face criminal charges, if the doctor is the expert and they listened tio the expert, how are they culpable? I keep telling you dipshits that I have no interest in the greater debate but you keep repeating the same broken tune......GTFO and let me be!

Sane country citizen...go back and read what you just wrote and no one will tell you who the IDIOOT is ! When brainless people loses an argument, they start cursing. The parents share a significant part of the blame . Cursing people won't make you look less stuupid

abbey621:
No topic is about the doctor and the fact that the kid was not taken to the hospital, at least that's what I got from the opening post. I think you're focusing on the bigger thesis and for that I want no part of....lol.

I just decided to ignore later because you appear very clueless. The topic is never about the doctor. Both the family, the govt( at least for now and the school are not blaming the doctor. The doctor's line of care is yet to come under scrutiny by any of the parties so this has nothing to do with the doctor. The doctor only came in because he testified that he treated the boy at home at first and then the family took the boy to church. You kept talking about having a home care in America and I had to give up. Home care is for stable patient or palliative care. If a doctor is treating your child at home and the baby suddenly could no longer breathe after the doctor left, does that mean you will take the baby to church and then start saying the doctor did not inform you ? What part of the word deterioration don't you understand? If I am treating you and your case deteriorated at home, you mean you will stay there and die because I didn't tell you to go to hospital? This is common sense. Even at that, the parents never said the doctor didn't advise them to take the child to the hospital. You are the one that started the assumption and you were running with it. In any sane country, the intent of taking the child to church when the case deteriorated rather than hospital is the only thing that matters. The parent knew the boy was not getting well...that was why they took him to church. They also did video that was so obvious the boy needed hospital care. You saw all these, you neglected them. The only thing that matters to you is the fact that the doctor treated him once at home. What you are saying is not practical and a normal parent can't follow that route. You said three people mentioned something....and you immediately assumed the three must be wrong while you are the only one that is right. I told you I am a doctor...you were mentioning your family so that gave you the professional qualification to say what you don't know. Read, learn..This is about the school mainly. If the doctor that saw at first confirmed his condition was not bad to warrant admission, you can't blame the school at the time they told the parent to come and take their child to hospital. The school specifically told them to go to hospital...they went for home care. The school is at least exonerated and no matter what, the parents have cases to answer. Wether the doctor is guilty of malpractice is subject to investigation of the line of care and events antecedent . Nevertheless, the doctor's culpability does not exonerate the parent's carelessness

abbey621:
Both the links you shared has nothing to do with this discussion since a physician/medical expert was involved. What is a physician? Is he not a doctor? By all standards, he is the expert and no law in the entire world can criminalize a parent for taking the advice of a physician. The rest of the nonsense you typed I can't be bothered with since I don't know who you are fighting with, who dey follow you drag school or government? My point still remains you cannot claim parents were negligent when they had a physician attending to their son, unlike you I do live in a sane country and no law can criminalize their actions due to the physician's own explanation, so spare me the jargon.....PEACE!

sane country? And you don't know the parent will be in jail already. I have practicing license as a doctor in both Australia and Ireland and I can assure you, from the day that child died in Australia, child protection services would have arrested the parent and the remaining children will presently be in protective custody so I don't know which sane country you are.

abbey621:
I think you're confused, when did you & I discussed closing the school or anything that has to do with the school....Please stay focused and stop rambling. My main point of contention with you is that you claim they refused the doctor's advice or that they were negligent enough to warrant arrest or prosecution.

You are the confused fellow here. They are not negligent yet they went to church rather than hospital and you are blaming the doctor. At first it was the school, then the govt bribed everyone and now it is the doctor. Show me the evidence that the pastor advised them to come to church . So they knew they could go to church for admission but they were waiting for the doctor before going to hospital and you don't think they are negligent. In a normal country, they will both be awaiting trial.
see their mate here ....
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/100296174
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-15/woman-jailed-for-endangering-daughter-toowoomba/100296174

abbey621:
You're quoting rubbish which has nothing to do with this case, first of all can you provide evidence that the doctor advised them and they refused? Una go just dey type nonsense all in the name of trying to sound intelligent!

Let me even assume you are very intelligent. Since the doctor didn't advise them to admit the patient, does that not mean at the time the doctor was seeing the patient, the patient was not clinically bad. If a doctor didn't think the condition of the child was bad even after leaving the school, why are you people jumping up and down that the school must be closed. Did the doctor also advise them to do video of the sick boy in pains? They did the video because they knew the boy was seriously sick yet they were waiting for the doctor to tell them to go to hospital. Did anyone advise them before taking the child to church too? So they were waiting for the doctor to advise them but they didn't wait for the pastor to advise them.

OR THE PASTOR CANT COME AND BE PRAYING FOR THE BOY AT HOME TOO?

So they knew the boy was sick enough to warrant admission in the church but they were waiting for doctor to advise them that the boy need admission in church.Just tell me the parents are dumb. That is what you are trying to say here.

So, if your own child is in that kind of pain, you will stay at home and be waiting for the doctor to come and advise you to stop doing video and take the child to hospital. GO AND BURN DOWN THE SCHOOL. THAT IS JUSTICE!!!! Are you now happy?

abbey621:
Can you quote the law that you speak of? A physician operates according to certain ethical codes and one of it is do no harm, what the f**k do you mean the child presented malaria symptoms? Based on what? Physician is the expert here, he should have been the one to advise hospitalization immediately. Please don't speak of abroad as if it is one magical place, I've been abroad for a decade and some years now and we have doctors making house calls all the time, it is the job of the expert to insist on emergency protocols. No law abroad would jail such a parent, I repeat no law!

You are naive. By now, the parent would have been arrested by child protection services. I can show you more than ten cases involving such negligent parents. The doctor is not a magician. You can treat malaria today and the child can have infection tommorrow. The doctor only needed to advise them and document... if the parent refused, he couldn't do anything. If he suspected the child's case was serious and the parent were negligent, he might report but in Nigeria, there is no clear cut person to report to and unlike abroad where the parent don't have to pay, the parent have to pay for medical services in Nigeria so if they Insist they don't want admission there is nothing the doctor would do because he won't use his money to be treating the patient.

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/child-neglect-when-is-it-a-crime-50439

sisisioge:
Millions on the line...the school will not accept liability. Who should we blame? Let's blame the grieving parents! The question is....how did an healthy boy became so sick that he needed hospital gravely in your care dear school? Enlarged liver....how

All those responsible for the boy's death will know no peace!

Stop the ignorance please. Common malaria can cause your liver to enlarge. Anyone can fall sick. The school is not heaven that people don't fall sick. Yes!!! The grieving parent that was called by the school to come pick their sick child and then refused taking him to hospital . They took him to church for days, did video and never sought medical treatment till he died so they are very culpable too even though we sympathise with them. Funny enough, they blamed everyone except the pastor that took in a very sick child for days without seeking medical care yet it is the school that told them to take their child to the hospital that must be blamed.
NB- Liver enlargement is not a diagnosis and it is not uncommon. It is usually an inflammatory response to so many things.....malaria, infections, cancers, drugs etc can cause liver to enlarge..It doesn't mean the liver is damaged.

Jondelng:
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I don't get the furour over Tinubu’s certificate. I am not a Tinubu apologetic, but for someone to have work with Arthur Andersen, Deloitte, Mobil oil all international companies, and then you still claim he has no certificate?
I want to question your intelligence.

Actually, it doesn't matter. If Tinubu wants to relocate to Canada, they wil still ask WESS to verify his certificate. If you are also applying to be Nigerian president, even if you have worked with Google, you still need your certificate verified. Why don't you question the intelligence of the Canadian, Australian etc that knows you have years of experience and still verify your certificate?