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PoliticsRe: Amidst Devastating Flood In Rivers, Wike Doles Out ₦300m To Lagos Officials by Hermes119: 11:50am On Oct 19, 2022
Tinubuwins2023e:
How much is #300Million compared to how much Peter Obituary stole as governor of Anambra state. Wike donated that money from his personal account and not from government money so what the hell are you people ranting about and who told you that state funds haven't been allocated by the state government to cushion the effect of the devastating flood caused as a result of natural disaster.
Peter Obituary stole government money and diverted it to private family business and the useless ipob miscreants are not condemning it but they are crying like babies ontop Wike just because he didn't support there rotten useless thief and spit comes out of his mount when talking.
If it were Obituary that Wike endorsed yesterday, most of this useless animals condemning him would have been praising and defending him
If Peter Obi stole money and is guilty as claimed then why is he walking around freely, why hasn't the APC government latched on it to run down his campaign, doesn't that mean that the government doesn't have what it takes to fight corruption
PoliticsRe: MNK: Rufai Oseni Spitting Fire On Arise TV by Hermes119: 5:18pm On Oct 14, 2022
OnionBandit:
Yes..I used to grin grin
You no go tire for this your trolling
I know your likes, una go just they shout online but in reality you have Igbo friends and associates
Anyways It's all love from this side
CelebritiesRe: Dying Rico Swavey Left Unattended To By Nurses (video) by Hermes119: 12:54pm On Oct 14, 2022
The major issue I had is that they made a video
I mean how do you video someone at there most vulnerable point without permission and to make it worse you are a health worker,you are supposed to be absolutely confidential about your patients
The nurses or staff may not necessarily have had a hand in his death,maybe he was already dead at that point,but if this was when he was just rushed to the hospital then this is outrageous
All the same their act was unprofessional
TravelRe: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 8 by Hermes119: 8:23am On Oct 10, 2022
Good morning all
Any clues on schools that may be still open for
application Nursing(Foundation or BSC) for January or March term
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity On The Pace To Becoming Minority Religion In US by Hermes119: 4:55pm On Sep 30, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
Naaah! That one is not a problem. The Kingdom of God is my House aka heaven, and it is not going anywhere, plus I have the keys, so no problem here cheesy

But I certainly wanna see the end of this competition first hand, who won and who lost! Who celebrates and who cries! grin
You will still see it if you die and and you are in heaven
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity On The Pace To Becoming Minority Religion In US by Hermes119: 4:34pm On Sep 28, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
I don't care about who unity is, I just want this world to end and to see the group that would enter Fire!
Why do you want the world to end, you should instead wish to die so you can go to heaven
RomanceRe: My Husband Met Me When I Was Doing ‘hookup’– Lady Shares How She Met Her Husband by Hermes119: 2:17pm On Sep 16, 2022
thebosstrevor1:
This simp try ooh grin

I know that even hookup girls marry at the end.

So it is nothing new. grin

Some of the guys here might even be dating a disguised hookup girl.
Boss !!!
Where you dey since
HealthRe: 4 Newborn Babies Die In Sapele Central Hospital, Delta. Doctor ‘Found Drunk’ by Hermes119: 5:36pm On Sep 07, 2022
slawomir:
Damnnn niggar
Too bad...
No matter what .....getting high through smoking is far more better than getting high through alcohol
If na smoke that doctor smoke....he for for fit continue to carry out he duty...the only thing be say he go dey smile unnecessarily and think deep

Alcohol Highness might disgrace you

But smoking will never disgrace you
I'm talking from experience because am a drunkard and also a smoker....wetin alcohol don do me...you go dey pray say if you fit survive the Highness say you will never drink again...but last last the son of man go always and still return back to the bottle
Your last line don remind me of the song "swimming pools" by Kendrick Lamar grin
Christianity EtcRe: Samson: One Lesson To Learn From The World's Strongest Man Ever by Hermes119: 8:04pm On Sep 05, 2022
hopefulLandlord:
Story of Samson is arguably the most absurd story ever!!!!

Samson was a man given ultimate power by Yaweh but fell in the hands of Delilah to the philistines.

Delilah tried to get the deepest secret samson ever had, the secrets of his power...and the story went like this:

1st attempt: After much pressure, Samson gave Delilah a wrong answer "If they bind me with seven green withes that were never dried, then shall I be weak, and be as another man."

And behold the very next day, Samson was bound with seven green withes..


People tell me, even the most stupidest person in the world will realise at this point he has been betrayed, but dont laugh yet as there was attempt no 2

No 2: After the 1st failed, the strongest man had no clue his most precious secret has been given away by the only woman he told but went ahead to bow to more pressure and he gave another wrong answer as "If they bind me fast with new ropes that never were occupied, then shall I be weak, and be as another man."

Behold, the very next day, his hands were tied with the new ropes but is it not amazing that he still had no clue he was being betrayed?? Now at this point I am almost passing out of shock for this level of stupidity if it ever existed


Attempt no 3: Yes there was a 3rd attempt, believe me a 3rd attempt !!!!!
"If thou weavest the seven locks of my head with the web.
and yet it happened again.


Even if someone is cursed with stupidity, it cant be this terrible to now give a 4th chance of eventually revealing his most precious secret to som1 that has betrayed him 3 times consecutively..

Aba!!! bible storieshuhhuh??

Now guys, don't laugh off your eyes yet because the part that killed it all was after the philistines cut off his hair and finally caught the most dreaded enemy of their generation.

These guys knew his source of power was his hair, but it is astonishing that a large number of stupid people did not know hairs can grow...or did not know that they would need to shave off his hairs daily but they let him alone till his hairs grew back.

The writer (s) must be on some strong stuff; but christians believe this story!! infact they have an obligation to
Chile !
You left out one detail
How did they carry out all these and he couldn't wake up from sleep, men he must be one hell of a sleeper
SportsRe: Messi Struggles As Neymar Rescue Draw For PSG At Home To Monaco by Hermes119: 8:35am On Aug 29, 2022
sportskid:
If not for Messi, there wouldn't have been a goal to start with. He created the chance for that penalty. Mbappe and Neymar are just competing for fame.
He struck the bar with a fantastic strike but Mbappe missed the rebound, an Open net !!!!
And Op still get mouth dey talk sey Messi struggle
TravelRe: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 22 by Hermes119: 7:50am On Aug 29, 2022
harkintem:
The tuition fee is about 18000 CAD not 8200 CAD. I enrolled for the pre nursing program too at Brandon university, January intake, but the good news is you only pay for the courses you enrolled each semester that means you can complete your pre nursing program in 2 years (4 semesters) thereby split your school fee of about 18000 CAD into 4
.
The figure I gave is for a semester not for a year, should have mentioned it
TravelRe: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 22 by Hermes119: 9:18pm On Aug 28, 2022
Hello,please what's the name of the school you applied to for the pre nursing program?
Brandon University

How much is the yearly tuition fee?
Varies
The tuition itself is around $8,200Cad or so
The school fees is between $9,397 Cad to $10,200 cad

How long did it take for you to be admitted?
Since March
I am asking all these because I have been thinking hard on how to fulfill the prerequisites courses needed to enroll in accelerated BScN program,I will really appreciate your response. Thanks.
Alright
I will help anyway I can
SportsRe: I Can't Believe There are Still Men Who Don't Watch Football. by Hermes119: 2:33pm On Aug 28, 2022
Op wetin be home run ?

A 4 year old kid in the US go answer that question in 5 seconds

I'm a football lover
I know all the teams that have won the world cup in chronological order

I know all the teams that have won the champions league at least from 1990 till date

And so many other amazing stuff

But you can't degrade someone for not sharing the same likes as you
Christianity EtcRe: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 3:02pm On Aug 26, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
What we are trying to get you to appreciate is that the first thing we do when assessing any thing is whether good or evil, is that IT IS ALWAYS BASED ON HOW IT DIRECTLY AFFECTS US.

Which leads to the fact that the standard of assessiment is based on how an action/inaction directly/indirectly affects us.

Which itself would lead to Law via Rights and Liabilities.

Thus, before you can validly and conclusively say that a thing is good or evil, in addition to all other considerations, recourse must be had to The Law! (not man made laws eg constitutions/statutes for the maker of law is always above his law and his law has no power to hold him. which is why men are above manmade laws which is why we easily disobey them. But not so with The Owner of This World's Law aka God which is Natural Law! And no man made Natural Law. It is even rather that Natural Law made man, which is why men do not easily disobey it.
So I am not talking about Natural Law when I say Law
!)

And Natural Law is The Ruler, Judge and King of good and evil.
Okay
Christianity EtcRe: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 8:58am On Aug 26, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
We all do!

Therefore, we can call God Good because Hie did good things!
Not so fast
If you say God does good things, what is the standard for defining Good things in this case
Is it the same standard we use for everyother person ?
TravelRe: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 22 by Hermes119: 8:56am On Aug 26, 2022
tolupe1:
Form A
Unfortunately I can't use that method, I'm going for a prenursing programme and they rejected my form A application for tuition
TravelRe: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 22 by Hermes119: 11:17pm On Aug 25, 2022
tolupe1:
SEE WHAT THE LORD HAS DONE. WHAT GOD CAN NOT DO DOES NOT EXIST
GUYS, IT IS PPRRRRRRRRRR

Like I don’t even know how to feel right now. It’s like I am walking on air.
Timeline:
First application:
Applied: January 26th
Breakfast served: June 6th

Second application:
Applied: July 7th
Medical passed: August 3rd
Eligibility started: August 5th
PPR: August 25th

DOCUMENT SUBMITTED

CHECKLIST FOR CLIENTS’ INFORMATION DOCUMENTS.

1. STATEMENT OF PURPOSE
2. UPDATED LETTER OF ACCEPTANCE
3. TUITION RECEIPTS
4. TUITION INVOICE
5. EDUCATIONAL QUALIFICATIONS
• WAEC Certificate
• Degree Certificate
• NYSC Certificate
• Transcript
• Curriculum Vitae
• Vocational Certificates

6. FAMILY
• Family Picture
• Affidavit of Change of Name
• Birth Certificates for the family
• Bio-data page information for the family

7. FINANCES
• Bank Statement from my Guarantee Trust Bank (MBS)

8. LANDED PROPERTIES
• Contract of Sale for 2 plots of land

9. CAR
• Document of Purchase

10. AFFIDAVIT OF MATERNAL CUSTODIAN SUPPORT
11. TRAVEL HISTORY
12. MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE
13. MEDICAL REPORT
14. COVID VACCINE CARD/ E-CERT VACCINE REPORT
15. BUSINESS REGISTRATION CERTIFICATE
16. BUSINESS PICTURES
17. FOOD SAFETY FOR FOOD HANDLERS CERTIFICATE
18. SELKIRK COLLEGE PGCM 099 COURSE RESULT


DOCUMENT CHECKLIST FOR PROOF OF FUNDS AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT

1. CHECKLIST
2. LETTER OF EXPLANATION
3. AFFIDAVIT OF SPONSORSHIP
4. SPONSORS’ FINANCIAL SUPPORT
• Statement of account (MBS) from Guarantee Trust Bank
• Statement of account from Stanbic IBTC Money Market Mutual Funds Page

• • Statement of account from Stanbic IBTC Pensions Account
• • Statement of account from salary account, Ecobank Togo
• • Statement of account from Guarantee Trust Bank (domiciliary)
• 5. SPONSORS’ EMPLOYMENT LETTER
• 6. SPONSORS’ INTRODUCTION LETTER FROM EMPLOYER
• 7. SPONSORS’ 6 MONTHS PAYSLIPS
• 8. SPONSORS’ EMPLOYMENT BOND LETTER
• 9. SPONSORS’ WORK IDENTITY CARD

WHAT I DID DIFFERENTLY

1, I paid my first-semester tuition in my first application. So, for my second application, I paid the second-semester tuition too

2, My spouse deposited 4M Naira (bulk sum) into my account for my one-year upkeep.

3, I moved the money from my mutual benefit money market account in Stanbic IBTC to a regular account in GTB. I explained why I moved it. The money was there in the first application, but I felt the VO was of the opinion that it would not be easily accessible. I showed a trail of how I moved it with bank alerts and stated that the account has been in operation for years and all the money was ours, with no bulk payment from outside sources.
Congratulations sis
Please I would like to know the platform you used to pay your tuition
Christianity EtcRe: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 8:15pm On Aug 25, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
Do you not call a person who has done something or given you something good, good eh?
I do
Christianity EtcRe: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 8:14pm On Aug 25, 2022
TenQ:
Mt10: is a verse that teaches that the followers of Christ will be hated by people!

The teachings of Christ is what Christians follow: would a person who followed all the teachings of Christ be good or evil?
Depends on your definition of good and evil
Christianity EtcRe: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 6:04pm On Aug 25, 2022
Wilgrea7:
This should be fun... Do you mind sharing the standard of good and evil he gave to us so we can determine if he himself is holy or not
If you want to get a decent response from him you better remove the part boldened if not you are giving him a good reason to dulge your question,not that he wouldn't invent one himself grin
Christianity EtcRe: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 5:56pm On Aug 25, 2022
TenQ:
Bias aside!
If someone lives by ALL the tenets of Christ, would such a person be seen as Good or Evil?
I know you must be feeling that your Christ is so wonderful,I wonder why you didn't say the tenets of God or the tenets of the bible,I guess you know that that one is a no go area
Anyways let me remind you of some of the tenets of Christ

give to everyone that asks
if someone slaps you on the right side turn the left (I didn't say it's literal or not but whether I think the literal meaning is more bearable than the figuraty meaning)
when you organise a feast invite the beggars and wretched
if you lend money to someone and he refuses to pay don't ask further
loving your neighbor as yourself
Anyone who lives by these tenets above especially the last one(which isn't even practical by the way) is not good or bad, the person is STUPID

And the icing on the cake,Mathew 10 from vs 34
"do not think that I have come to bring peace to the world....."
Christianity EtcRe: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 5:40pm On Aug 25, 2022
TenQ:
Because people who follow His general guidelines are Good people. Therefore their source must be GOOD! (I speak only for Christians)
Good people by the standards of their religion
Hindus believe you shouldn't eat cow so christians who eat cow are bad people by there own standard
As an atheist who should I regard as good or bad
Christianity EtcRe: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 5:37pm On Aug 25, 2022
Maynman:
Then you don’t need to call the creators and lawmakers good or bad just call them as they are.
Period.
Christianity EtcRe: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 5:32pm On Aug 25, 2022
TenQ:
Meaningless unless personal attributes such as goodness or Evilness can be quantified by a numeric values
Since you want to go this route let me indulge you on this once and for all
There are four types of data
Nominal
Ordinal
Interval
Ratio

Nominal can't be counted or described with numbers e.g political party,sex, religion
Ordinal can be ranked but can't be counted e g first position, second position......,
Interval can be counted with numbers but has no absolute zero e.g temperature values 0°c is still a temperature value
Ratio can be counted and has an absolute zero e.g height,weight

Now good and evil falls under nominal data,we can't describe them with numbers just like you said but we have a reference point or basis for saying that a thing is good or bad. For instance you can say that a person is good if he acts a certain way, "acting in a certain way" is the basis for describing the person as good or bad. I used examples with ratio data because it is easier to relate to what I'm saying when I use numbers but it's still the same point that I'm making,there has to be a reference point !!!
But then to rove to you that my argument is still valid I will use a nominal data for my analysis.
Suppose to be regarded as male the reference point is possession of the XY chromosome,has a pënis and tësticles,produces testosterone and female as possession of YY chromosomes, a vågina and womb, production of oestrogen, then that means that anyone who possesses the former features are male and the latter person female. Now if you say that a particular person is male whether the person possess Yy chromosome or XY, whether the person produces testosterone or oestrogen, whether the person has a pënis or vågina then the word male looses it's definition and becomes arbitrary because there is no reference point to distinguish between male and female.
I used nominal data in this instance and I still passed the same message I've been passing so find another excuse


Unfortunately for you, infinite regress of Cause and Effect is Logically and Scientifically impossible. Meaning that the ball of all the chains of causes, effects and systems must terminate at the Enigma: the Uncaused First Cause of Everything who brought EVERYTHING into being.

Such is infinitely powerful if we compare Him to the total Energy of the Universe.
Such is timeless: as He must have existed before TIME!
Such must be intelligent: as rules, laws and multiplicity of INTERDEPENDENT SYSTEMS can only be from an intelligent MIND!



Your argument in another form:
The Universe lacks the capacity to reduce itself to a gravitational singularity
Your conclusion:
Therefore the Universe cannot be infinitely BIG!
I'm lost
How is this related to what you quoted
Christianity EtcRe: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 1:08pm On Aug 25, 2022
TenQ:
I understand you but you are the one trying to force God into a mold.

But you fail to look at an induction process.

If what I do is in line with the purpose of the Creator, such thing is declared as GOOD!
That means the Source from which I obtained my guide must be Good.
The above boldened is wrong
I already gave an instance
If a human weighing 100kg is considered heavy it doesn't make the weight 100kg itself qualified to be described as heavy, the term can only be used with reference to a human
Because
For whales weighing 100kg may be regarded as severely light
You get my point now



Your argument is that If God lacks the capacity to do wrong, then he cannot do right.

I beg to disagree!

If God lacks the capacity to DIE, does it mean that He cannot be ALIVE!?
Yes @ the boldened
To describe someone or something as alive means it has the capacity to die
For instance
Can you describe air as alive ?
Can you describe water as alive ?
Can you describe a shoe as alive ?


If God lacks the capacity to be WEAK, does it mean He cannot be STRONG?
Yes
If he lacks the capacity to be weak then he can't be strong,if you disagree then give me an instance of something that doesn't have the capacity to be weak but is described as strong

Same way,
If God lacks the capacity to be EVIL, does it mean He cannot be GOOD?
Your argument was refuted with utmost ease
Christianity EtcRe: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 12:59pm On Aug 25, 2022
Wilgrea7:
I disagree with the third postulate, and I sincerely do not see how it is in line with the first and second one. We seem to be going in circles here. Changing the narrative from "the right" to "his right" barely makes any difference.

There has to be a basis for him to call something right, or else the word will lose its meaning. You've previously said the basis/criteria was his will/purpose.

I agreed with it and showed you how even in that situation, his will/purpose, as well as his actions cannot be seen as inherently good or bad, because to give something such title, there has to be a higher criteria to judge it against, which doesn't exist in this scenario.

I think what you're trying to say is this

What makes something good?
Something is good because it is in line with God's will
Why is God's good?
Because everything he does, is in line with his will
What makes God's will good?
Because God says so
On what basis does God say so?
His will.

It's a long line of reasoning, but it is still circular. This circular logic fails to take one very important detail or question into account. Which is,

Can God do something against his will?
No, because no matter what he does, it will always be according to what he wants to do.

The only thing that can make something right, is if it had the capacity to do wrong, but didn't. If someone lacks the capacity to do one thing, it makes absolutely no sense, to imply that the person willfully does the opposite of that thing.

We've shown that God lacks the capacity to do wrong, because everything he does, will be done based on what he wills, and his will is what determines good and bad.

If God lacks the capacity to do wrong, then he cannot do right. Because right implies you could've done wrong, but didn't. And God can do no wrong according to you. Therefore, he can do no right either. I don't think it should be such a difficult thing to grasp.

As an example, let's say I set an exam.

To pass, you need to score 50 or above. If you get below 50, you fail. 50 is the criteria by which i determine who passes and who fails.

The students who scored 50 and above passed, and the ones who scored 49 and below failed. But did 50 pass? I don't mean the students who got that number, but the number itself. Does the number 50 pass?


You see how the question immediately turns nonsensical. For 50 to pass, it needs to pass against something. There has to be another higher criteria, or cutoff mark to compare it to. If there isn't, then saying that 50 (the number itself) passes, or fails, just doesn't make any sense.

Now let me take it a step further. Let's say the cutoff mark, is whatever score I, (the exam setter) gets. No matter what score I get, that's automatically the cutoff mark. That means the cutoff mark is decided after I get graded. Not before.

If i get 20, 80, 10, or 99, that's officially the new, highest criteria for passing. If i get graded and score 25, that officially becomes the new cutoff mark.

But can you then say my score, which the definition of pass and fail is dependent on, passed? How can you say I passed or failed when the criteria for passing and failing could only be decided after I got my score. How can you honestly say I passed when the pass mark has to be decided by whatever score I got, regardless of the score that I got? The whole point of me passing ceases to make sense if nothing I did could have been considered failure. Even if i got 0.000001, that would still be the highest possible criteria for passing.

It doesn't even make sense to compare me with the rest of the students, since I am the one that set the exam, as well as the cutoff mark. I cannot possibly pass or fail. I can only set the cutoff marks by my grade. My grade cannot be seen as pass or fail, because it is the literal definition of pass and fail.

I really don't know how else to break it down for you
Excellent
Let me even expand the point highlighted
For humans,let's say the standard for describing a person as "overweight" is weight above 100kg, the value 200kg can not be described by the term "overweight" what is described as "overweight" is the person who possess the weight because an adult whale weighing 200kg might be regarded as underweight since the standard weight for whales are way higher than humans.
Now if you want to use the term "overweight" to describe the value 200kg itself you have to bring a standard reference. That is what we are saying
You can use God as the reference to define human morality by defining Good as anything that is line with God's opinion and bad as the reverse, but the term Good and bad in this case would only aply to humans
But if you want to use that term for God you have to bring up another standard, you can't say Good(for God) is anything that is line with God's opinion and bad as the reverse
There has to be a reference
Christianity EtcRe: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 12:39pm On Aug 25, 2022
1. Postulate 1:
God is the Creator of Everything
2. Postulate 2:
He can legally do whatever He wills with His creations
3. Whatever God does with His creations will thus be His Right to Do
Not his right but his choice, for you to say it is his right means there is a law or line of reasoning that proposes that if you create a being you can do whatever you wish to do with that being and God is subject to that law,I'm not aware that there is a law of that sort and even if there is I wasn't aware that your God is subject to anything

Meaning:
God cannot be wrong in whatever He does according to His will and Purpose!
I think I already disproved this with my point above

If God cannot be WRONG, then He is ALWAYS Right in whatever He does.

If God is always right, He can never be Evil and thus He is ALWAYS good in whatever He does!
You just keep regurgitating the same thing
If God cannot be wrong it could mean that
There is a standard for right and wrong and he always meets the standard of being right, it's not the same thing as saying that whatever God does is right without reference to any standard. If the latter is the case then the word right looses it's meaning with respect to God in this instance.
It's just like saying in football for a particular player e.g Karim Benzema whatever performance he gives is rated as excellent . If there were criteria for rating his performance e.g number of goals scored or assists e.t.c and he always meets those standards then when you use the word excellent it has meaning so you can actually imagine or predict how he performed in a particular game when he is rated as "excellent" . But if there were no parameters to distinguish "excellent" from "average " or "poor" and you say that whatever performance Karim Benzema gives in every game he plays is excellent then that would mean that even if he scores 20goals in a game he is excellent,if he scores 1 goal he is excellent, if he scores non at all he is excellent,if he makes no touch in the opposition box he is excellent,if he makes no touch in the opposition half he is excellent,if he misses 10 penalties he is excellent,if he misses an open net he is excellent. Don't you see that the word excellent looses it's meaning because you don't have a reference to distinguish excellent from poor or average whether the reference is quantifiable or not is not the question,there must be a reference point !
How difficult is it to understand this no matter all the examples I give
Christianity EtcRe: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 12:24pm On Aug 25, 2022
1. I think we can both agree that qualities of Goodness or Evilness are not Quantifiable
2. Even though they are not Quantifiable, they can be rated with respect to a Relative standard which also is not Quantifiable.
Okay
3. As per God: I am sure you've never ever heard any Christian give a value to God's nature. If any value is to be used by Christians, it would be INFINITY (which of course is no objective number).
Okay
4. I think you should separate God from Religion. Why?
a. God is the Reference to morality, goodness or Evilness. His decision is always perfect.
This is where I have issues with you
If you say his decision is always perfect is it because there is a definition of what perfect is and God's decision always abide by that definition or every thing that God does is simply perfect in other words he is incapable of doing something that is not perfect
If it's the latter then you can't use the word "perfect" with God or rather if you use it it loses its meaning and becomes merely arbitrary
He gives us guidelines by which we should live our lives in alignment with His purpose through
-Our Conscience
-The Scripture (direct commands and guides)
-Common sense
b. Religion is what men do in their attempt to walk according to God's purpose and Will. Many times, because man is unreliable, he invents activities in his attempt that has nothing to do with God's will and Purpose. No man can be completely trusted (including Pastors, Prophets, Evangelists...) to be in alignment with God's will and Purpose.

In other words, God the Creator can be a standard but religion cannot!

The basic guides of God ingrained in all humans lead people to tend towards being good as long as they don't kill their conscience and their purpose is geared to honouring God the Creator.
I don't have much to say on this area cos it's not fundamental to the topic of discussion
Christianity EtcRe: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 8:27am On Aug 25, 2022
Wilgrea7:
How can you honestly say this after I've just explained to you why this cannot be the case?

The “logic" you're trying to use here does not work, and I've explained several times why.. and you still insist on saying the same thing?
I swear
After all the analogies he still doesn't get it

If God can be 2inches, 4inches, 20inches, 200000inches,2million inches ....... and still be regarded as tall, then the word "tall" looses it's meaning since there is no height that God can possess that would be described as short,very short,very tall, average
He argued that Good and bad can't be measured with numbers but of course that is not my argument, my argument was that if there is no reference or basis for comparison then the word "holy" or "good" loses its meaning since no matter what God does it would still be referred to as "good" just the same way that with respect to height, whatever height he is is regarded as tall so "tall" looses it's meaning

Why he can't get this point is beyond me
Christianity EtcRe: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 8:19am On Aug 25, 2022
TenQ:
Your analogies and examples are faulty.
My analogy is meant to show you why you need a reference,comparison or parameter to define"holy" or "good" and I got think I achieved that

1. You have set a standard of measurement or external parameters for God which is impossible.
If it is impossible to define God's holiness or goodness with respect to a standard parameter or reference then his holiness or goodness looses it's meaning and becomes arbitrary
What you are saying is akin to saying you can't measure God's height, so how can we determine if he's tall or short, because any height he is is "tall" so the word tall looses it's meaning with respect to God

2. Using your example:
Goodness or Evilness is not Quantifiable with numbers, values or ranges.
Yes but it doesn't mean it can't be determined.
My argument is not that we can measure Goodness or evilness with numbers or ranges the aim of the analogy was to show you that you need a reference point or comparison to define "Good" or "holy" just the same way we need a reference point or comparison to define "tall" or "short"

Who is more evil?
A person who murdered one person or the person who murdered two people? It is possible to say that a person who murdered 1000 people is more evil that a person who killed 2 people. Even then, the answer is still subjective?

In other words, some things are not Quantifiable.

Another example:
How do you rate or grade Love as a percentage? Is it even possible to repeatedly quantify love objectively?

Such it is with states of Goodness or Evil.
I don't have an issue with what you stated above.
My analogy is simply to show you that without a reference point or comparison the word "Good","evil","holy" would not possess any meaning. EOD
If there is no way to distinguish good and evil,love or hate then those words loose there meaning. I never argued how to quantify or measure the level love or hate, I'm arguing that there has to be a way to determine its presence and distinguish one from another

3. Lastly:
Goodness or Evilness makes sense relative to a standard that is not a measure of number or quantity!

Whose Standard?

Christians will say God the Creator's standard: as whatever aligns with His purpose is good and whatever does not align with His purpose is evil

Atheists may need to find a Standard that is not Quantifiable yet is a Reference!
Very good point
How about another religion uses there God as the standard of morality and what there God demands or deems good is to kill infidels, what would you make of that
What if a Christian kills a witch and tells you he received direct instruction from God to do so, remember the bible said "suffer not a witch to live" and on an occasion when Israel was praying to God and the sone of a priest took a woman to the back of the temple to fornicate someone killed both and God was appeased,so this isn't something beyond the purview of Christianity besides you can't proof the person didn't get the instructions from God
You see why we can't use religion as the basis to inform our morality

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