Christianity Etc › Re: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 8:33pm On Aug 24, 2022 |
Like the Op said adjectives derive their meaning from a reference point or parameter for measurement If you say something is hot that means there is a reference point to determine when it's hot or not If you say something is heavy there should also be a reference point to distinguish it from a light substance
So if you say that God is good or holy, there should be a parameter to distinguish it from evil or unholy just like example I gave with height, otherwise the word good,holy,evil or unholy looses it's meaning with reference to God just the same way that if you claim that God is tall regardless of his height then he can be 1cm, 5cm,200cm,36777cm, 40000000cm and the description of his height is "tall", don't you see that the word tall looses it's meaning because you can't distinguish which is tall or average or short unlike when there are benchmarks. So in that case if you describe God as tall, the term tall becomes just an arbitrary term |
Christianity Etc › Re: Theists, What Exactly Makes Your God "Holy"? by Hermes119: 8:13pm On Aug 24, 2022 |
This argument is age long, I remember reading Bertrand Russell's take on the subject What the Op is saying is very simple, but you know when you've held a belief all your life it's difficult to change it especially if you are egoistic
Let me use this analogy
With respect to height,we could come to a consensus that anyone below 170cm is short and between 170cm to 180cm is average while those above 180cm are tall. Now the parameter for classifying a person as short, average and tall is clear Scenario 1 So you can say that God is tall because he is 185cm (above 180cm)
Scenario 2 But if you claim that God is tall regardless of his height then that means that there is no parameter to determine his height because whether he is 190cm,177cm,150cm,135cm,70cm,100000cm,0.0004cm he is tall. So using the term tall is arbitrary because we can't imagine what short or average is since whatever height God is is tall hence the terms "tall" "short" and "average" loose there meaning,but you can use them with respect to humans if you use God's height as the parameter, so you can say that a person whose height is above,the same or less than God's own is tall, average or short respectively.
So in like manner If you say that God is good because there is an established definition of Good and evil and his actions always concur with the definition of good,then it's similar to scenario 1
If you equally say that whatever God does is good without reference to a parameter to measure good or evil then you can't determine what Good or evil is with respect to God,just like the instance in scenario 2, hence the term "Good", "evil" becomes arbitrary or meaningless with respect to God, but you can use it with humans defining Good as "acting according to God's will" and bad as the reverse
I don't know how simpler to break this down. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do People Always Equate Atheists With Having No Morals by Hermes119: 10:46pm On Aug 08, 2022 |
hopefulLandlord: Notice something about this post? notice how he used weasel words like he were a politician then went on from that weasel words to certainty and specifics later. look at the two texts I'd bold in this quote and see the wilful dishonesty
Notice how he moved from "Almost every instance" which sounds like he's making a huge point but it's actually wilful ignorance at best or close to meaningless at worst. To prove this just look at this statement "Almost every instance of ball crossing over the goal line gets called a goal" which isn't really lying but as someone who watches football a lot you'd quickly realise so many goals are called off in games due to a variety of reasons and these called off goals has huge impact on how the match turns out so that statement is actually close to meaningless
as for the next text I bolded you see how he made a conclusion from a close to meaningless term in the first bolded to making a certain conclusion from there.
From "Almost every instance" to "now you clearly see"
Now let's face the "Almost every instance" part and see if what he's saying is true which honestly it is but lacks context. he says the slavery then was to work for 6 years to pay off debt but here is what he's hoping you won't pay attention to some words that change the entire meaning. Exodus 21:2 is what he's quoting and this is it “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything."
Great! this guy has slammed this argument. let's go home he's won already but wait! "Hebrew"? why is there that specific word there and why did he pretend like this extended to everyone? So this only applied to Hebrew slaves? what about non Hebrew ones? obviously their fate would be much worse than Hebrew slaves but let's move on and read the next verses and see a loophole an all knowing god gave. exodus 21:4-6 "If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free. “But if the servant declares, ‘I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free,’ then his master must take him before the judges. He shall take him to the door or the doorpost and pierce his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life."
hmmmmm! so you see what this"almost every instance" is ignoring?
Now let's get down to other slaves. let's look at Leviticus 25:44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves." hmm okay let's now move to 46 "and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life" 6 years indeed huh? I think at this point it's pretty obvious to the unbiased that 6 years nonsense is hogwash!
now let's move on to another nonsense he said. "If they were mistreated, the masters (employers) were punished." Exodus 21:20-21 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property."
"Mistreated" in this context is huge dishonesty. it's like saying beating someone to death as "mistreating" and while it probably falls under mistreatment, when you hear the words mistreat does your mind jump to "kill"? I mean if I say Janet got mistreated by her stepfather does any part of your brain entertain the probability that Jane is 6 fit under from the mistreatment? you probably expect an alive Janet with physical bruises on her body not a forking corpse! Also the fact that the Bible is silent on what happens to the master if he kills his slave is telling and I'd wager he won't be put to death for murder
NB: notice how me, a nonchristian, is quoting Bible verses that can be independently verified by anyone reading this while the so-called Christians here don't? @ jmoore your attention is highly needed  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Hermes119: 1:05pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
ThierryJay: Ah, that one is forever above Club Reject 7's pay grade.
Nose bridge is far from the head. Apart from the goal that is causing them pains did anyone see Messi's highlights against Clermont foot last night,I mean the guy is unbelievable The way he plays,I've never seen anyone with more flair and class |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Hermes119: 11:10am On Aug 07, 2022 |
ThierryJay: But seriously, this smacks of extreme inferiority complex from Wasiu and family. Na so the thing pain them reach?
Is bicycle kick even the only kind of great goal? Imagine Messi's fans could also use his solo goal vs Madrid UCL semi-finals to troll Wasiu by asking him whether he had ever scored that kind of goal at any level let alone UCL semis. Bunch of dunderheads. Or even Ankara Messi  |
Education › Re: Female US Teacher Had Sex With Boy, 13, In Classroom & Even Moved Into His Home by Hermes119: 8:16am On Aug 04, 2022 |
Omo she get height oo 6ft 2 !!! |
Business › Re: Pictures of PUBLIC LAUNDRY services In The U.S. by Hermes119: 8:47pm On Jul 30, 2022 |
MALIGNANTGuest: It's good you asked. I cited such because I saw how kids were abused in Naija as housemaids when I was there. How some brother/sister-in-laws were subjected to a lot of things for paltry favours. I recently saw a video of a Naija Federal policeman holding a tray of food for a madam who eventually denied it without recalling that same policeman was holding her purse. That's exactly what our COLONIAL MASTERS did to us. We always rush to condemn them, meanwhile such is presently going on in Africa unabated. Same Nigerians & politicians wouldn't attempt such here. That's the reason I cited such. Don't get me wrong. To me that's even the worst!. Animal farm ain't it |
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Hermes119: 2:02pm On Jul 30, 2022 |
bullstriker: Change your browser. Also, check your spam folder for a reply to your email. Okay |
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Hermes119: 2:02pm On Jul 30, 2022 |
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Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Hermes119: 10:03am On Jul 30, 2022 |
Good day everyone Please I need assistance with booking my medicals I'm trying to book IOM abuja but the site is hanging,what could I do about that I already sent an email to them and no response |
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Hermes119: 10:01am On Jul 30, 2022 |
Muyiwaaaa: Hello everyone and good morning……i got my passport request on the 29th july after submitting my application april 13th for a study permit. Normally this is good news but i am worried because a medical was not requested which i thought was the next step since I didn’t do upfront medicals. But God is good i have waited for this since and I’m happy it came. I booked a medical appointment just incase they request for it later Congrats |
Music/Radio › Re: A Review Of Burna Boy's "Love, Damini Album" - TrendyBeatz by Hermes119: 9:27am On Jul 30, 2022 |
The album was dope I think some of us have unrealistic expectations,like we expect everysong to be outstanding or something He delivered Listen to Cloak and dagger,Burna boy is the only Nigerian artist that can make that kind of song Vanilla was dope Last last was a sleeper hit Kilometer was dope Different size was sultry and dope For my hand was very good Common person was very good
The rest of the songs were okay or average but with five or six hits I would relate an album over 5 |
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Hermes119: 3:46pm On Jul 25, 2022 |
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Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Hermes119: 12:08pm On Jul 25, 2022 |
Ghazali34: Confirm the account name from the school.
It depends on the bank.
Like AccessBank told me 30 days. Still waiting on them. How long has it been since you requested |
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Hermes119: 2:10pm On Jul 24, 2022 |
Ghazali34: Ask your questions hopefully someone will give answers to help you. First I want to pay tuition for Brandon University,I already have the school's account details except account name I think the account name should be Brandon University but I want to confirm that Then I would like to know how long it takes to complete the payment and get a receipt Thanks |
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Hermes119: 8:47pm On Jul 23, 2022 |
Good day everyone Please has anyone used Form A for payment of school fees, particularly to Brandon University,I need to get some details |
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 21 by Hermes119: 10:14pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Good day everyone Please has anyone paid tuition through the CBN Form A route Especially for Brandon University I need to confirm a few details |
Travel › How To Fill Form A by Hermes119(op): 6:09am On Jul 17, 2022 |
Hi Everyone I haven't done this before and I don't want to make any mistakes OG's in the house abeg help me What are the information needed to fill this form The school is Brandon University Incase anyone has used this platform to pay his/,her school fees there your input would be most welcome
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Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Hermes119: 8:21pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
Happyfellow147: Please what did you fill as beneficiary country?
On the tradesystem portal, contry list stops at Bermuda meanwhile I want United kingdom
It wouldn't allow me type it either and would generate lists beyond Bermudas Are you done filling it Please what did you fill below
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Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Hermes119: 8:19pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
Donbabaz: Remove any form of special character in the email address. Esp dot Any idea how to fill these
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Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Hermes119: 7:44pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Donbabaz: Remove any form of special character in the email address. Esp dot Thanks I've done that |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Hermes119: 5:46pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Keryorday: Check that there is no space after your email address. Thanks I have succeded |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Hermes119: 5:25pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Jvas: Go to the bank where you registered your bvn and link your bvn with your email. Tell them to do it for you immediately. By the end of that day you will be able to proceed. Cheers I have done that and I have successfully registered But while trying to log in I got this reply
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Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Hermes119: 4:58pm On Jul 13, 2022*. Modified: 5:25pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
afolayanto: Proceed to your bank to update your BVN by adding your email to it. Same happened to me and the bvn was updated same day. You will need your email address to login to TRM portal. That's where you'll get OTP to login The email has been linked and I have registered the account but I couldn't log in Each time it was saying that the email address was not valid The username entered is the email for registration
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Politics › Re: Governor Bello Matawalle Pictured With His Sons by Hermes119: 4:17pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
post=114695001: As seen somewhere on cyberspace..... I thought your problem is with IPOB why drag the Igbo tribe into it |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Hermes119: 5:39pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
Jvas: Go to the bank where you registered your bvn and link your bvn with your email. Tell them to do it for you immediately. By the end of that day you will be able to proceed. Cheers Thanks |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Hermes119: 5:33pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
afolayanto: Proceed to your bank to update your BVN by adding your email to it. Same happened to me and the bvn was updated same day. You will need your email address to login to TRM portal. That's where you'll get OTP to login Thanks � |
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Hermes119: 12:36pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
Notime0112: Go on http://tradesystem.gov.ng. Click on the first slide that says exporters portal. You can find picture in attachment Follow the process and choose individual, it ask for your Bvn and you can continue from there. If you are confused at any point screenshot and post here asking questions I got this reply
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Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Hermes119: 12:18pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
Hi guys I'm trying to register an account via tradesystem for tuition payment but after puting my BVN this is the reply I get How can I resolve this
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Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Experiences Don't Count As Proof Of A "God". Here's Why by Hermes119: 8:18am On Jun 29, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Experiences Don't Count As Proof Of A "God". Here's Why by Hermes119: 5:38pm On Jun 25, 2022 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Japan Court Rules Against Same-sex Marriage, Lawyer Disappointed by Hermes119: 6:43pm On Jun 21, 2022 |
Omo e be like say 99% of the commenters no read the post Once una see anything that seems anti-gay food don set
Japan is a very LGBT FRIENDLY COUNTRY
Read the article again |