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An2elect2:
Not really. Faith isn't equal to work. One is borne out of the other. Faith births works. Genuine Faith that is. So if we believe in our hearts, we would confess unto salvation. "unto" does not mean we were saved by by confession/work

I can believe and not confess, like the pagans do and lemme ask? how do you know someone is saved or born again if not that they confessed

An2elect2:
that would contradict Salvation by grace through faith. Rather we were were saved and received eternal life when we believed and then we inevitably confessed our faith. Inshort they happen so simultaneously that we cannot have one without the other But there is sequence. Faith first. Through it is a man saved. "whosoever believes has eternal life"
And whosoever has eternal life will not be mute but must surely confess it out.

Does his non confession even when he believes make him save

An2elect2:
But here is the problem. Many men have not this faith that by itself produces works in a man. And since they have not this faith, they go about establishing their own works and falsely equating it to faith like you just did

loooooooool, I would let that slide

An2elect2:
If we won't receive eternal life until we confess then eternal life cannot be a gift but a reward for our righteous choice. But salvation is by grace through faith and this is not our doing but God's

Whosoever believeth in Him should not perish pls I would recommend matt mark Luke and John before that's where life is

An2elect2:
The Bible is very clear about those who draw back, says they were never saved to begin with. This is well detailed in my last thread.

says they were never saved pls explain, with reference pls Well, I would be waiting

An2elect2:
Okay. So you think each time we sin we lose our salvation

ooooooh yessss, he that sinneth is of the devil, you lost it 100%,but we can always have it because it was freely given unto us from Genesis

An2elect2:
and then we have to do something (like coming back to our senses) to get it back but that would contradict the Bible. In the Bible no man was, is and would ever be saved except solely by grace.

Grace, do you know another name for grace is Jesus dying for our sins. That was why the angel at salutation said, hail Mary full(pregnant) of grace(Jesus)Titus2:11 John1:17, 2cor8:9

An2elect2:
Grace means you don't deserve

is it true we do not deserve? cause God told satan in Gen3:15, that the seed shall bruise his head. That was as far as the day man fell and you still claim we do not deserve

An2elect2:
to be saved but someone bought your pardon with his blood

[quote author=An2elect2 post=58550842]if you lose it when you sin, we would need another sinless person to shed his blood again and this would be an every minute, hour or day sacrifice, worse than the old covenant. Because without shedding of blood there can be no remission of sin. But thank God we are saved by grace. If we sin we confess to God who gives genuine repentance and turns us away from that lifestyle. Not you, but God does all these things inside of you.

Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Forever has He perfected our sins, Jesus overcame and made a public show of luIifer and his angels.

Grace is Jesus overcoming and making us to sit far above that at the mention of his name the devil trembles. If the name is that powerful then Jesus does not need to come again, speak in a word, that's case close

well, do you know Jesus must need die Hebrew 2:14-15

An2elect2:
I see what you are doing but my advice to you would be to go to God and he would teach you himself. You won't have to follow your own understanding but rely on Him cos there are so many things God has hidden from the world and only shows those that come with humility

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Lemme just tell you, everything in the Bible that you need is in Matt, Mark, Luke and John, I thought you would understand but I
would explain, everything you need present (Matthew Mark Luke and John) past (Gen to Malachi) future(Acts 2-Revelations) is
in Matthew Mark Luke and John

UbChapter:
What are you talking about? Inside the PDP corruption, were we not feeding and doing well?

Have you ever asked why people voted for APC, lemme ask, didn't you see fulfilment on the face of people when APC took over, that tells me people needed PDP out. I understand the recession thing, if people knew this would happen. We might not have APC in power. Its like we hated PDP now, the PDP Nigerians voted out with passion is what we desire now. do u see the irony in that

I pray he pays those pending salaries. Cause construction companies are the only people who might finally gain from this fund

The PDP we hated is the PDP we wish is in power. God bless Nigeria

sarrki:
I don't know why I hate religious body interfering in our politics

He sure should be able to talk about politics. In my own view,
he have freedom of speech

ultimate77:
Can we relate Galatians 6vs 7 with 2cor 5 vs 17

Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

A man can sow maize, sure he would reap maize Gal6:7

The same man can clear the maize, and start over again,
this time let's say millet 2corin5:17

Assuming there was another farmer who planted millet from the onset, he(2nd farmer) would have a quicker harvest compared to the 1st farmer that planted maizeplantedaize while others are Planting millet. I think think you should like this graphics.

My phones screen is quite bad

reading this should be clearer now

Matthew 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his
fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his
fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the
heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man
out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
This should answer your question
Once the tree is good, it becomes good, if the tree
becomes bad, it is totally bad, so you either give
your life to Christ and start living right and God
would see a good tree.

Excellentlady:
Great massages today,am enjoying this.






when you obey God,he loves you more..







God is good.

Am,looking forward to seeing a thread from you in religion section

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An2elect2:
Thank you. The Bible teaches eternal security and is clear about us being saved by grace through faith which is not of ourselves Ephesians 2:8,9.

Here is a short article that is helpful

If we win salvation then its no more by faith.

Faith is by works, we won't receive eternal salvation if we don't confess. Our confession is a work which is also faith

One can draw back in the faith and as a result lose their salvation.
Paul said we are not of them that draws back unto perdition.

1 john 2:1, "this thing I write unto you that you sin not" writing to the saints in the church

Well, I still don't understand the concept behind eternal salvation, but my opinion is, once any1 sin, he's likened to the prodigal son who lost his salvation and his fellowship and he realised that and came back.

I think we need to read more of Matthew, Mark Luke and John and put them first always and not only that, using those four book as a guide in interpreting whatever the Bible state thereafter.
Thanks

An2elect2:
Please run away cos it appears you don't even know God.

I saw your signature, saying we can't win or lose our salvation. I need enlightenment ma

jchioma:
It appears you even know God. Can u tell me more about him or it?

Well, just bit I know that I wanna share. God loves keeping company, I can't say more

Principe67:
When you are baptized in the Holy Spirit, you receive a gift from God—the gift of speaking (or praying) in tongues.

I have always wanted to write something along this line b4.
Well, its a great post, evidently you made a post, not seeing it would come to FP

I could av followed the post and answered some questions here, there abound differing views about this subject

God won't give you more than you can carry

bennyann:
what i meant when i said trying to prove a point.

I have for some while now engaged in trying to prove to some atheist on NL that God is really out there and I think it doesn't have to do with the thread, well, we have our convictions

I would just says, I have lost my taste for religion section of NL, I have chosen prayer and intercession over endless hours of proving a point in religion section to those folks who's heart blinded

bennyann:
I want you to always go to the point and tell me exactly what you mean. Tell me what I do that made you give me such advice.

Is your reply related to this thread? If yes, I answered you to prove a point because you questioned my opinion as a Christian.

If it isn't related to this thread, then you should know there are soldiers with different and specific instructions, gifts and talents. Some are meant to be at the front of the battle field. Some are to be protected so as to solely give attention to the wounded. Some are to stay behind to be used as reinforcement when due.

No matter, how you look at it, all soldiers are not meant to carry out the same function. Some carry out a heavier duty than the rest.

What I'm trying to say is not all of us are prayer warriors. Mind you, I do not say not all of us should pray but some have that gift specifically. Personally, I intercede.

Here on nairaland, you mostly don't leave pointless points unattended to. it's like you saw a trap that can snare your fellow who you're stronger than and you do nothing about it when you can in your own way. Then you turn around going to God to do that for you. There are things we can do and that's our part, then what we can't do we leave it to God.

And you do not know how prayerful some are here. Not because you feel they don't please you means they are not. Not because you think you see them here mostly means they are not.

Every Christian cannot be you, if it happens so then Christians on nairaland will have issues. Every one cannot be me, because it would mean atheists would have a field day mostly. There has to be a balance. You do not let some threads or comments go unattended to like that for the sake of the elect. We don't just pray when there are threads deceiving the elect, we do both spiritually and physically.

And you have to know I'm not an angel. So I can't be praying 24 hours a day.

I can also take it that you felt like proving a point about the 'believer' issue but you preferred not to because you feel you should spend time praying to God. If that's the case, don't use prayer as a cover up because Christians are not the only ones called believers. There are better issues on nairaland to tackle and which gives an opportunity to save the lost and encourage the rest.

my reply has nothing to do with the thread. Its only the okay that has to do with the thread.

Ehmmmm, many times I use my reply to minister to people and many times, not really replying their former message or question

bennyann:
Dear, no need for all these. I just wanted him to spill it out that he is a Christian.

This is the religion section and all theists are believers. It's just the deity and mode of belief that's different. In a section like this you either say you are a christian or Muslim or any other.

No need arguing about this.

To muslims, unbelievers are called infidels or so. To Christians, they're mostly called unbelievers, then called heathens or pagans which is common to Abrahamic religion

It's better we confess Christ publicly by saying you're a Christian than hiding under the general theistic term - believer. Being a Christian goes straight forward and tells proudly who you represent than the word believer.

Even in English language, anyone who tells you he is a believer, you would want him to be specific to tell you who or what he believes in. It's better and more precise and specific, when one says 'I'm a believer in Christ Jesus'.

I told the friend I quoted that these days, even satanist call themselves believers. If English language has solved this issue, then I think I've done the little I can also and I hope you understand.

That's all i can say about the issue.

okay, I recently came to understand that its better to pray than to be trying to prove a point online. Ezek22:30, Luke18:1-8, 1Tim2:1-8, Is62:6-7, Is21:6 I.hope you understand

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Una well done oooo

phemsie:
see them space bookers

Looool, fastest finger and fastest network

Space for sell, wait, space as how

bennyann:


But next time don't say you are a believer jor. Say you're a Christian

One love dear.

My question is what's the difference between a Christian and a believer and considering your word depth, prove with scriptural backings your claims

bennyann:
don't say you are a believer

so Who is a Believer

bennyann:
Say you're a Christian

so who is a Christian

Okay, you are in Isolo, just chilling and your friend from Ojuelegba calls to greet you and notice its quite noisy in Isolo, and the dude asked, " bro, is it raining over there?" and the guy in Isolo replies, it's really pouring heavy here oooo, and the Isolo guys ask his friend in Ojuelegba, how far your side, and he replies "just dews here, not really raining", while in Surulere, its just cold, no dew, no rain, just a cold weather.

Just thinking aloud

My point is, why does it rain in a part of a town and few metres from where it's raining, there are no rain even while its raining in the other end; and at another farther part of town, its just cloudy, no rains, no dews and after some minute, yea, solar energy saying hi to the inhabitants of the earth, that's the sun, yes

My Submission

Someone made it so

I think logic and reasoning tells me its God

CROWNWEALTH019:
2 months now I've not seen that man....

Seems somebody is missing Buhari here

CROWNWEALTH019:
2 months now I've not seen that man....

Seems somebody is missing Buhari here

CrEaToRmalden:
Mhen, do you believe he actually stole to promote his music..?
Look at his face now, long time man in the business.

Loooooool, that's true, I don't know which to believe, either my mind telling me he's lying or the man who seems to be telling the unknown

Nairaland has now become a place where recent updates on latest news thrive as many Nigerians seeks to be updated on the happenings on the country.

There have been lot of space bookers and if you are a frequent visitor/user of NL, you see all sort of comment and single worded comments, all in the name of SpaceBooking, ooooh, I'm guilty of this one, a

BTW Jesus so much love me, I wish you could experience it like I do

Is it all meetings Nigeria must attend, God have mercy on this country
Yea, Jesus saves, you need to come back to God