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CareerRe: HND Certificate: An Embarrassment? by Hndholder(m): 11:02am On Nov 28, 2006
Due to one reason or the other I can not make it then to University because the society own it all. The polytechnic is no longer wanted by the society so let it Go
EducationRe: The End Of Polytechnic In Nigeria by Hndholder(op): 10:55am On Nov 27, 2006
Consolidation of polytechnics’ll create 500,000 varsity spaces –Ezekwesili By Adelani Adepegba
The PUNCH
Published: Friday, 24 Nov 2006
Minister of Education, Dr. Obiageli Ezekwesili, has said that the current consolidation of polytechnics and colleges of education into campuses of neighbouring universities will provide 500,000 additional university admission opportunities.
She said the President had inaugurated a technical committee on the implementation of the initiative, which she said, offered a veritable solution to the bottlenecks of the Joint Admissions and Matriculation Board.

The Minister, who stated this at a symposium on Nigerian universities and international competitiveness of the Nigerian economy in Enugu on Thursday, noted that the current trend where only a paltry 1.5 million Nigerians were enrolled in universities posed a serious challenge to the nation‘s desire for economic transformation.

”At less than 3 per cent of our youthful population currently enrolled, we are clearly too far from the mark and will remain so, if drastic measures are not put in place.

“In 2005, an average of about 868,000 Nigerian youths sought admission to our universities out of which only 23 per cent were adjudged to have been successful (that is 200,000).

“Yet our universities have the capacity to absorb only about 150,000.

“The critical question that we must ask therefore, is where are the rest.?,” Ezekwesili queried.

According to her, the nation is in danger of mass producing miscreants, the disaffected, the misdirected, the unlearned, the angry, the wronged, agitated and the hopeless.

The Minister said that Nigerian universities must be returned to the citadels of learning that had produced great Nigerians, if they (the universities) were to become relevant to the country‘s economic aspirations.

Ezekwesili contended that while funding for any university was critical for investment in infrastructure, teaching and research, only an efficient deployment of existing resources would enable the realisation of value for competing resources.

She said that over the past seven years, the Obasanjo administration had increased funding to universities from N23.6bn in 2000 to N167bn in 2006, adding that each of the 25 federal universities had gotten over N1bn in capital projects in the last two years.

She disclosed that the National Universities Commission would institutionalise the publication of quarterly allocations/disbursements to universities as well as a framework for capturing and reporting all internally generated revenue of all federal universities to sustain transparent ”governance of resources.”
CareerRe: HND Certificate: An Embarrassment? by Hndholder(m): 10:11am On Nov 27, 2006
Double standard from the Government
EducationRe: The End Of Polytechnic In Nigeria by Hndholder(op): 9:01am On Nov 27, 2006
Let us wait as it is looking confusing
CareerRe: HND Certificate: An Embarrassment? by Hndholder(m): 12:37pm On Nov 17, 2006
City university Lagos and CITY University KADUNA, all other Federal poly will be a campus of Near by federal university. Fedeal Government will no longer have any federal poly. Tell the states to do something.
EducationRe: The End Of Polytechnic In Nigeria by Hndholder(op): 12:16pm On Nov 17, 2006
Now that Nigerian rejected the polytechnic the wise thing is for Polytechnic to go. Abi.
EducationRe: The End Of Polytechnic In Nigeria by Hndholder(op): 2:27pm On Nov 16, 2006
POLYTECHNIC UNIVERSITY, that is American syle !
Is Poly for You?
Polytechnic University is a school like no other. From our founding days, we've taken a different approach to technological education — we believe that the best way to learn is by doing. Our students get a firm grounding in science and technology, then learn to apply their knowledge by tackling real problems. Working in teams, at sites around the globe, they develop solutions that truly make a difference. These are the concepts behind Polythinking, and it's what sets us apart from other colleges and universities. http://www.poly.edu/admissions/undergrad/scholarships_and_aid/
EducationRe: The End Of Polytechnic In Nigeria by Hndholder(op): 1:03pm On Nov 16, 2006
http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/
ASUP faults govt on planned poly reforms
By Mary Akparanta
IN reaction to the Federal Government's planned conversion of some polytechnics into universities, the Academic Staff Union of Polytechnics (ASUP) says the union's position is not wholesale conversion of the institutions to conventional university but to give degree-awarding status so that the polytechnic sector can grow at its own pace.
While the union agrees with the government on its plan to elevate some of the polytechnics into degree awarding institutions, it however, does not subscribe to the means, approach and modes operandi.
Against this backdrop, the union has given the Federal Government until November 30, 2006 to rescind its decision of converting the mentioned polytechnics to conventional universities or face industrial action from its members.
The stance of ASUP, its national president, Mallam Sulayman Alli told journalists recently, was informed by its resolve to allow the polytechnic sector grow at its own pace.
Alli made the position of the ASUP known at its just concluded National Executive Committee sixth yearly conference held at the Yaba College of Technology, Lagos.
He said the union received the declaration of the Federal Government through the Federal Ministry of Education that the Yaba College of Technology and Kaduna Polytechnic had been converted to universities.
His words: "In the first place, the move by the Federal Government meets our deepest aims that the Polytechnics with sufficient facilities should be granted degree awarding status. If this is what the government has attempted to do, the two Polytechnics selected are not the only ones that can be converted to universities."
He noted that in this connection, all existing federal and state polytechnics should be upgraded to award degrees if they met the criteria for such conversion.
Alli expressed displeasure that inputs were not sought from stakeholders especially, members of the union before the decision was reached. This, he argued, might portend danger for the sector as the implications of the action and inaction of the Federal Government would lead to many things including downsizing, job cuts, lay-offs and other unsavoury consequences.
Also commenting on some of the dangers the conversion may pose to the Polytechnic sector, which has been towing the technological line, he advised " lecturers in these polytechnics should be given three to five years moratorium to equip themselves to meet the task of running academic programme in a University".
Alli further stated that the meteoric transformation of some Polytechnics to universities and others to proximate campuses of Universities nearest to them is wholly unacceptable to the union.
According to him, ASUP has a position on the upgrading of deserving polytechnics to degree awarding institutions, which has for long been presented to the Federal Government and other agencies of the Federal Ministry of Education.
" We have given an ultimatum to the Federal Government until November 30 as we will also be having a meeting in Bida, Niger State. We expect the government to call us to make input into reforms pertaining to Polytechnic education. If this is not considered appropriate ASUP will direct all our members in the entire Polytechnics to abandon the classroom so that the Federal Government can do whatever it pleases with Polytechnic education" he added.
He stressed that the overall effect would be on the students as there are yet no modalities in reconciling those who are currently HND holders to those, who will be awarded degrees.


NAPS calls for involvement in matters affecting them
From Mohammed Abubakar,
THE new elected President of National Association of Polytechnic Students (NAPS), Prince Paul Yakubu, has called on the Federal Government to involve students when formulating policies that would affect their well being.
Yakubu, who made this remark at the weekend during the inauguration of the association's new executive, in Abuja, said that if the students, who are beneficiaries of government's educational reform policies are not involved during formulation stages, reforms will not work.
He thanked the Minister of Education, Mrs. Obiageli Ezekwesili, for the reforms she has introduced in the educational sector since assuming office but added "all these reforms would not be complete, if we, the beneficial students are not involved through our leadership, in the formulation of these policies."
He also complained of the existing disparity between degree and Higher National Diploma (HND), in the country, saying the recent moves by the government to abolish same was a step in the right direction.


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EducationRe: The End Of Polytechnic In Nigeria by Hndholder(op): 9:01am On Nov 16, 2006
ishmael:
Then, let all polytechnics in nigeria be converted into universities. If selected polytechnics are converted to universities what will be the fate of the unconverted or remaining polytechnics?? If all poly's in nigeria will be converted into universities, no problem then; let them go ahead, else they should drop that idea because we will not want a situation where polytechnics will still be existing alongside universities.
They will be converted by their owners
EducationRe: The End Of Polytechnic In Nigeria by Hndholder(op): 2:15pm On Nov 15, 2006
Let polytechnic go go go gooooooooooooooooooooo
The university produce the technician and technologist in USA, Canada.
UK that brought POLYTECHNIC do no longer have any. Silsoe college is now campus of Crankfield university.

Polytechnic Kai go masa masa
CareerRe: HND Certificate: An Embarrassment? by Hndholder(m): 11:29am On Nov 15, 2006
How?
It is time brother for the Polytechnic to die,
The end of the POlytechnics is here.
No product of the polytechnic enjoy anything.
No ASUUP member is a direct polytechnic product let the YeYe school go, as NBTE too will be inside NUC all will be university property HND will be obtained from university they will sit now to see the syllabus
As discrimination will END.
EducationRe: The End Of Polytechnic In Nigeria by Hndholder(op): 4:42pm On Nov 13, 2006
Remember that no Polytechnic Product is a member of asup
EducationRe: The End Of Polytechnic In Nigeria by Hndholder(op): 4:37pm On Nov 13, 2006
ASUP Condemns Proposed Merger Plans
11.12.2006
www.thisdayonline.com
Academic Staff Union of Polytechnics (ASUP), has condemned in totality, the proposed plan to merge Polytechnics and Colleges of Education in the country with Universities.
Rising from its 54th National Executive Council (NEC) meeting held in Ugbokolo, Benue State, weekend, the union said the plan is at its best mischievous.
In a press statement signed by its National President, Muhammed Umar Kibiya, ASUP said the stakeholder forum, laudable and desirable as it may sound, is ill-motivated, ill-informed, deceptive and selfishly designed towards the attainment of some vested interests.
“It was vexed that the forum did not reflect the actual stakeholders in the education sector as it was mainly dominated by bureaucrats, consultants and main-stream administrators, and also that genuine contributions were deliberately ignored during its proceedings.”
The union faulted the timing, saying such an all-important programme shouldn't have been introduced just when Mr President is about to leave office.
It also described the move as superficial and retrogressive, capable of causing confusion in the educational sector. It further called on the Federal government to adequately fund the Nigerian Polytechnics and build its curriculum to meet the increasing number of candidates seeking to acquire a higher degree rather than merging schools, citing cases of advanced nations where Polytechnics are well equipped to run Masters and Ph.D programmes.
Expressing deep concern on the poor funding of the state Polytechnics in Enugu, Benue and Taraba, ASUP called on the Federal Government to take over the running of these institutions, and also to upgrade Yaba Tech and Kaduna Polytechnic to degree awarding Polytechnics.
On the on-going INEC voter's registration, ASUP expressed a big disappointment in the poor handling, and enjoins the commission to enhance its mechanisms to avoid further deteriorations. It also mourned the incessant plane crashes in the country these days, blaming the mishaps on the Federal Government's careless way of handling serious problems in the country.
COMMENTS
Shittu Afeez
11.13.2006 13:28
To me to improve the standard of Nigeria education we need to have mostly Universities to compete with the world education standard. Although the Polythecnics also have been very hardworking in thier own various ability to improve the level of techinical education in Nigeria and that Nigeria still need to maintain some technical education to improve the level of technical know-how in Nigeria
OLADAYO OWODOLU
11.13.2006 13:18
In my own view i think is good dicision to merge if that is what will solve the problem of discrimination of degree between BSC and HND holders. This descrimination has always been a thing of daily thought for me as many employers always prefer Bsc holders to HND holders. I believe we have thousand and one HND holders better than Bsc holders which these so called employers runs after day by day. As for ASUP against the development I believe they are doing these because of the fact that many of them are trying to protect there interest as mearger may make some of them loose there post or otherwise, not minding thosse who are at stake and the future of there products. If a company produces a product and is not acceptable in the market definately the company will be forced out of market which i believe is happening right now with the issue of mearging going on now. It is a good idea if HND is no loger acceptable to our society. But my fear is that what happens to those going about with that certificate (are they going to have change of certificate or what?). Thanks OLA.
EducationThe End Of Polytechnic In Nigeria by Hndholder(op): 2:22pm On Nov 13, 2006
As FG Inaugurates C’ttee on Varsity, Poly Merger
From Juliana Taiwo in Abuja, 11.08.2006
The Federal Government yesterday inaugurated the Presidential Technical Committee on the consolidation of tertiary institutions.
The Secretary to the Government of the Federation, Chief Ufot Ekaette said government was worried at the acute problem of carrying capacity at the tertiary level of the education system, stressing that it was also worried that Nigeria was increasingly unable to provide access to especially university education for the critical mass of the population .
He said the few vacancies that exist are oversubscribed. “With facilities overstretched, quality is threatened. What is more, we are aware that no nation has achieved technological and socio-developmental breakthrough where less than 15 per cent of its qualified citizens have access to university education. With less than three per cent access, the challenge before us is indeed herculean. We must, therefore, seek to expand access without proliferation of universities so that we can increase our carrying capacity while still maintaining academic excellence.
“Consequently, after a painstaking analysis of our tertiary education system, including wide-ranging consultations with various stakeholders, culminating in the Presidential Forum held about two weeks ago, the Federal Government is convinced that we should consolidate all tertiary institutions. This means the conversion of all Federal Polytechnics and Federal Colleges of Education into campuses of proximate and contiguous universities. At the same time, government is convinced that two of the oldest and most well-established polytechnics in the country located at Yaba and Kaduna should be transformed into universities in their own right to be known as “City University of Lagos” and “City University of Kaduna”, respectively”, he said.
The Committee’s Terms of Reference include: To streamline all academic programmes with the Minimum Standards and advise on the programmes to be retained at non-degree level;
Determine, in conjunction with the universities, the arrangement for the completion of current programmes run by the Polytechnics and Colleges of Education in respect of the continuing students;
Recommended effective ways for the smooth conversion of the Yaba College of Technology, Lagos and the Kaduna Polytechnic into “City Universities”, including the type of programmes to run at degree and non-degree levels;
Propose, in detail, the engagement of the teaching staff, consistent with the guidelines for the employment of academic staff in Nigerian universities;
Recommend ways by which the non-academic staff can be engaged, consistent with the NUC ratios;
Examine the enabling laws and propose necessary amendments;
Provide a detailed documentation of the physical assets of the institutions being consolidated, including movable and immovable instructional and other facilities such as laboratory/workshop equipment, etc;
Provide detailed estimates of financial intervention required in order to improve physical and instructional facilities at all campuses; and
Any other relevant recommendation, which, in the Committee’s judgement, will enhance the smooth consolidation of the tertiary institutions.
Ekaette emphasized that the exercise is not about staff rationalization or the abdication of federal responsibility for tertiary education, nor is it an attempt to introduce higher fees or abolish non-degree courses. “The universities will continue to be run as a social responsibility. They will also continue to train our middle and higher-level manpower necessary for our national survival in a world increasingly driven by knowledge”, he said.
The Committee has till the end of January 2007 to submit its report.
CareerRe: HND Certificate: An Embarrassment? by Hndholder(m): 12:44pm On Nov 13, 2006
NANS calls for Ezekwesili‘s resignation
By Jude Owuamanam, Jos
Published: Thursday, 9 Nov 2006
The National Association of Nigerian Students has called for the resignation of the Minister of Education, Mrs. Obiageli Ezekwesili, for what it described as her poor handling of the education sector.

The group also threatened to shut down all polytechnics in the country if she failed to resign.

This was disclosed by the NANS President, Mr. Paul Yakubu, in a statement in Jos on Wednesday.

He added that the minister lacked focus and direction on how to move the sector forward.

He said that Nigerian students were totally dissatisfied with the way Ezekwesili had been running education generally and the polytechnic education in particular.

The student body lamented that since the minister assumed duties six months ago, she had not deemed it fit to sit with stakeholders in the education sector so as to appreciate first hand the problems in the sector.

Yakubu said, ”We are surprised that during the presidential forum on education, nothing was said about polytechnic education and the preferential treatment accorded university degree holders against higher national diploma holders from Polytechnics across the country.”

He said that the students were also disappointed that during the education summit in Abuja, the minister did not recognise co-heads chairmen and the Academic Staff Union of Polytechnic, nor the body of polytechnic students, NAPS.

The NANS president said that the crisis in the education sector would deepen unless the minister was shown the way out.

He said, ”As part of our resolution taken against the attitude of the minister towards education across the country, we are left with no option than to call on her to resign from office immediately.

“But in the event that she fails to throw in the towel, we will call on all polytechnic students through their students union governments to shut down the polytechnic until the fate of HND holders in the so called education forum agenda in the country is addressed by the Federal Government.”
Christianity EtcRe: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by Hndholder(m): 2:30pm On Oct 18, 2006
All churches depend on one type of gift or harvest to survive, most electronic churches survive on the so call tithe. How will you determine the fake one as they all claim to be original with miracles all over in signs and wonders?
CareerRe: HND Certificate: An Embarrassment? by Hndholder(m): 3:18pm On Oct 17, 2006
Nov 12 last year we presented that report on banks to NBTE during NITE AGM at Engineering close. Steps were taken, left for those concerned to follow up. Our organization fights only for HND holders in Engineering, lucky enough no other HND holders organisation. Please ICAN HND as well as other organisations should come up.

NBTE Directive still holds on banks
CareerRe: HND Certificate: An Embarrassment? by Hndholder(m): 1:00pm On Oct 17, 2006
True alot of politics is going on. At 4.00pm yesterday radio nigeria network work news this issue was raised by asup.
Dr Yakubu is trying his best He was not a polytechnic Product but He has done a lot for the polytechnic than those who were in the polytechnic at one time or the other.
Christianity EtcRe: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by Hndholder(m): 11:38am On Oct 17, 2006
And I said Sister Julee go ahead and give out your money but leave me out of it since my own understanding of tithe is Agric produce which Israelites offered to levities and levities in return offer 10% of it to God, and feed the poor from it. But the old priests use up  this and never send any offering to God or the poor, Malichi  was used by God to warn those priests to stop stealing from God house. This tithe of a thing is not for Nigerian. I am not complaining about those who choose to tithe, my position on the scriptural basis.
I hope you read about pastor king?
CareerRe: HND Certificate: An Embarrassment? by Hndholder(m): 7:57am On Oct 17, 2006
Because you and I pass through the polytechnic that is why we knew the value. Some people think is just a Technical college. Not untill we can educate more people. Nuru yakubu was a lecturer and later rector of Kaduna polytechnic. He took over from those people who knew nothing about polytechnic
CareerRe: HND Certificate: An Embarrassment? by Hndholder(m): 3:00pm On Oct 16, 2006
Thank u,
Christianity EtcRe: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by Hndholder(m): 11:24am On Oct 16, 2006
Read the postings before now, since you look new on this topic you  just arrived so that you can know details.
CareerRe: Why This Discrimination Between B.Sc & HND? by Hndholder(m): 11:00am On Oct 16, 2006
I do not think you are of Nigeria. HND =Bsc in Nigeria Obasanjo 2006. QED.

Up grade to what after Phd? Good day

bisiofgod:
men,of a truth,there is a clear cut between a polytechnic graduate&a university graduate.u can't compare the two.its glaring.i quess ure a poly graduate.try&get updated please.go 4ur pgd
CareerRe: Why This Discrimination Between B.Sc & HND? by Hndholder(m): 9:46am On Oct 16, 2006
Without blood no forgiveness of sin, so Jesus blood was used that is the Christian believe.

It is through the powerful hand of God the Israelites got freedom from Egypt.

Moses killed , he kill a man before they could have freedom, So many sons of Egypt died.
They made effort otherwise God would just be looking at them.
HND holders we need freedom
Come out so that we can make noise to God and Government to change things to our favour.
Christianity EtcRe: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by Hndholder(m): 7:55am On Oct 16, 2006
sticker:
those not pay tithe, their lives is always tight.

PREACHER STICKER
huh smiley
CareerRe: HND Certificate: An Embarrassment? by Hndholder(m): 4:37pm On Oct 13, 2006
Leave that to the person face your own
CareerRe: Why This Discrimination Between B.Sc & HND? by Hndholder(m): 4:32pm On Oct 13, 2006
Nuru Yakubu must hear this
Christianity EtcRe: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by Hndholder(m): 4:03pm On Oct 13, 2006
shocked shocked shocked
TayoD:
@winteric,

Please note that I never insulted anyone on this thread. The one who first came on board with sarcasm was Hnd_holder, whom I have discovered from other threads as well isn't so much bothered with what the Bible says, but would rather go by tradition.
grin
CareerRe: Why This Discrimination Between B.Sc & HND? by Hndholder(m): 9:48am On Oct 13, 2006
You are all running late comentry
Christianity EtcRe: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by Hndholder(m): 2:38pm On Oct 12, 2006
Search your posts your self and change for better. If you feel you feel OK is up to your for such rational decision.
Christianity EtcRe: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by Hndholder(m): 1:03pm On Oct 12, 2006
Tayo D is a fact that you call people names,  this seems to be your style of weaken your opponent, we are not fighting here to win a point but you display your characters
By their fruit we shall know them






winteric:
@TayoD, i didn't mean to fight with you as a person. i got upset by your seeming disregard for other people's reasons. this has gone way beyond your personal beliefs. what we are doing here is exchanging ideas persuasively. your deliberate disregard for the points raised on this issue tends to drag the subject to a nonsensical extent. your method of names calling for opponents is also unencouraging. we are not fools or jobless people here. we are talking about honesty and morality. i perceive you are a pastor. we are expected to relate the truth of God's Word to the laity. the truth as it is. so gbo? u be my brother in the Lord, in the flesh and in the blood, abi?
Christianity EtcRe: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by Hndholder(m): 12:58pm On Oct 12, 2006
Quality is never an accident, it is always the result of sincere effort intelligent direction and skillful execution, it represents the wise choice of many alternatives. Tayo D, Ihope you read about pastor King. When it comes to faith you need not be so blind. Bible was translated from Greek, Aramic and Hebrew yet, Irish went to war with England over interpretation of it.

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