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The Saha show continues!

tkb417:
i know ure smart; your goalie held on to the ball and the REF demanded for the ball cos the Porto players wanted to take it quickly

the REF didnt block your player( he didnt hold his legs)

**I am just thinking**
Maybe the ref, since the Porto player whispered into his ears that they wanted the kick taken early,shoulda just taken the free kick himself.

tkb417:
call us names o; it adds nor remove nothn

as per the REF; the rules of the game is so clear about what happened
Arsenal FC can lodge a complaint and seek for clarifications

And what does the rule say??
"A referee is allowed to demand for the ball from the offender in a freekick situation and hand it over to the opposition for a quick free kick.
The free kick can be taken quickly even though the referee has stopped passage of play by demanding for the ball.
The referee is also allowed to block the path of the offender and raise his hand to indicate an indirect freekick when the ball has already been played"
***Shakes head***

This got my laughing hard.
Arsenal fans wan kill Fabianski

"even if Almunia only has 3 good fingers and one leg it would still be a better option than David James's polish cousin"

tkb417:
i think your brain has gone cold
why would SOL act beanie man on the field when he knew all he had to do was rush to stop the Porto players from playing the ball?
thts the question

@Tkb417
Why we are calling you guys 'names' is your failure not to heap any blame on the ref.
We have dissed sol and fabby, but the referee goofed.
Once you call for the ball, it doesn't make sense to drop it for the opposition to take a 'quick' free kick, 5 yards from goal
How you guys can't see that this negates common sense is shocking?

v3:
Is Victor Moses Nigerian?

Yes he is.

rasputinn:
With the ubuquitous scummies and loud-mouthed chavs having very interesting EPL fixtures,this is our chance to make a run for the EPL summit(INJURY OR NO INJURY),starting with Sunderland

GO ARSENAL

Good.
Let's forget about the match and face what's in front of us tomorrow.
Abou Diaby is injured,Arshavin,Gallas and Dudu still out,
Only Almunia and Song are expected to return.
Didn't think I would say it, but I am sure glad, that Almunia will be back
I think Eboue should start this one.

femionasan:
David Morris (Aberdeen) says,

The Referee was woefully wrong. I am an ex football referee. 1. It was not a deliberate pass back. 2. When he blew his whistle to stop play, he should immediately have raised his right arm to indicate it was an indirect free kick and raised his left hand to indicate in which direction (which team) the direct free kick was given. The fact it was not a deliberate pass and no signal was given from the ref caused total confusion, but for the players around the situation. The ref took the ball from the keeper and handed it on a plate to the opposition player. FARCICAL and totally against the spirit of the laws in which the game is supposed to be played. He gave Porto every chance to score and Arsenal NO CHANCE to defend. There is nothing wrong in taking a free kick quickly, but did nobody notice that the referee only raised his hand to show that it was an in-direct free kick [b]AFTER THE PLAYER TOOK THE FREE KICK! (Farcical)[/b] And that was on top of the penalty he didn't give one minute earlier. This referee was a joke for the Irish and he was a joke last night too! And I shall tell you exactly why he didn't give the penalty - because he disn't see it - that's why. if you watch the tv/film again, the merest, almost 100th of a second before the trip he slants his head and looks directly towards the goal. By the merest of a fraction of a second he took his eye off the ball. This referee doesn't possess enough BRAIN as regards being a football referee that you keep your eye on the ball for danger at all times! In danger areas he doesn't keep his eye on the ball, hence the reason he missed the Irish incident too. This referee if allowed to continue at the highest level will make more similar mistakes - mark my words.

Posted 10:41 18th February 2010



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@femionasan
Thanks bros.
Only the scummies see otherwise!

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=400313.msg5539546#msg5539546 date=1266512071]Poll is human. . . .prone to mistakes but the laws don't make mistakes.
The advantage lies with the attacking team.
I have known that for almost 8 years now - learn the rules and don't let your watery patriotism becloud your senses. [/quote]What silly rules?
Poll should be ignored after that goof.(3 yellow cards)
Referees usually defend themselves.
Wsan't this same idiotic referee defended when Henry controlled the ball with his hand
It's not about the laws of the game.
It's about this useless referee.

Now suddenly Graham Poll is an authority in refereeing.
the same idiot that disgraced England at the World Cup by flashing three yellow cards at a player!
Meanwhile this stuff should go!
Nothing can change the outcome of the match!
there's still a second leg to play!
We look forward to saturday.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=400313.msg5538380#msg5538380 date=1266501410]Somebody said he saw Fabregas got booked for taking a quick free-kick.
It means Cesc musta taken a quick freekick after [/b]telling the referee [b]he would wait for the whistle.
The referee asks if the player taking the freekick wants it quick or will wait for the whistle.
Cesc musta told the referee he would wait, then take it quick while the referee is arranging the wall for the defending team.

I dunno there are still some simpletons on this planet who don't grasp the basic rules in football.[/quote]@Sauron
musta,coulda,woulda,you are also guessing what Cesc discussed with the ref!
Na wa oooh

eldee:
We all need to still throw all hands on deck.

@eldee
Fabianski won't let us!
Heard he was amongst the players randomly selected for drug test.
It certainly couldn't have been for 'Performance enhancing' ones.
Could have been for . . . . .  . . . _{you can fill in the blanks}

dayokanu:
Let's be frank!
we have also seen indirect free kicks being taken outside the box, time and time again.
The referee holds on to the ball, gets to the appropriate spot, the foul occured,a wall or whatever is formed,
he blows the whistle and the free kick is played.

But this didnt happen in the case of Henrys freekicks

You obviously don't get it!
Sorry!

dayokanu:
Which ref blocked Campbell? Campbell was already wailing like his ancestors died

Were you not watching another retarded ref allowing a goal in which the scorer was miles offside!?

Let's be frank!
we have seen indirect free kicks being taken in the box, time and time again.
The referee holds on to the ball, gets to the appropriate spot, the foul occured,a wall or whatever is formed,
he blows the whistle and the free kick is played.
Yesterday, a ref handed the ball to a Porto player, he had his back turned to the Player,player takes it, passes to his mate who scored!
Ridiculous!

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362333.msg5537649#msg5537649 date=1266495603]See this MUMU.

A penalty kick is different in that the referee has to make sure the goalie stays on his line and the other outfield players must stay outside the box.
Comparing that situation to an indirect freekick in the box says a lot about your ineptitude.
The referee has every right to allow a quick freekick. . . . .what y'all should be debating is whether the freekick shoulda been given in the first place or not.[/quote]Now a penalty kick is different,eh?
That kick was from 5 yards.
A penalty kick is from 6 yards!
The Arsenal stood a chance from a penalty kick!
I just dont understand reasoning like this!

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362333.msg5537577#msg5537577 date=1266494970]Your players shoulda defended it better.
The referee will not give you any advantage as you were the one that committed the foul.
The advantage lies with the team taking the freekick. . . .They can either wait for y'all to regroup or take a quick freekick.[/quote]I see
Now, I wonder why the referee stops play when he points to the penlty spot.
Why doesn't a player just grab the ball, place it on the penalty spot and slot home when the goalie and 5 other players are arguing about the decision
afterall, like presido said, a free kick is a free kick, doesn't matter where,. . . . it can be taken quickly!
Ridiculous!!!

ritchboy:
Only a world class m0ron would say there was nothing wrong with the goal.
A. Rosicky was denied a stone wall penalty at the other end in the same passage of play.
B. The rules say the keeper cant pick up a BACK PASS. Campbell's touch was clearly accidental and not a BACK PASS.
C. If i'm not mistaken, when the ref picks up the ball in a dead-ball situation, there MUST be a whistle before play can resume. The retarded ref picked up the ball and gave it straight to the porto player, then let him take the freekick without a whistle. Add that to the fact he was probably impeding Sol and i've NEVER seen a quick free kick taken from INSIDE THE BOX(like HNIC said, its as ridiculous as a "quick-penalty", then the ref should be stoned to death.

@ritchboy
Leave all of dem hypocrites alone.
No one has been able to answer that question.
They say a free kick is the same everywhere.
That freekick was an indirect one and was in the box,by allowing the other team play it quickly then its more or less a penalty
We had more chance if it had been a penalty

We need to solve this goalie issue urgently
Mad Jens didn't goof as much as this before he was shown the door!
Ridiculous!

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362333.msg5537351#msg5537351 date=1266493233]Your players are naive!!! There's no way in hell any team can score such against Man Utd.
VDS will not give the ball back and if he does, a defender woulda stayed with the ball throughout.[/quote]VDS is first choice goalie
Kitkat or Foster would have done same

presido1:
Do u want the ref to present the ball to Sol after collecting it from Lukaz? Do you even read what u post?
Again TH's quick freekick is the same as portos's the key word there is "quick" and not how many yards.
Listen to Darmort Gallaher on SPN. The ref is not wrong on the freekick.
Blame your players for going to sleep after the offence.

Bla, bla, bla
Answer this question
Have you ever seen a quick free kick taken in the box in all your life of watching footie?
and I dont understand how a quick free kick taken from 22yards will be compared to a free kick taken from 5 yards?
It's like comparing a throw in  from halfway line to a throw in at the corner flag!

Anyways, enough on this issue
You think the ref is  super and did no wrong, I think he goofed.
There is still a 2nd leg to play!
I rest my case on this issue!

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362333.msg5537209#msg5537209 date=1266492002]Blow the whistle to start replay in a quick freekick situation?
You are a first class retard. Now i know you know nowt about football rules.
Did Graham Poll blow his whistle before allowing Henry to score against Chelsea?

[flash=425,400]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf5Kfgj5-Jw&hl=en_GB&fs=1&[/flash][/quote]More gibberish from you.
and Graham Poll had the ball in his hand and presented it to HENRY.
How anyone can be comparing the two incidents amaze me

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362333.msg5537096#msg5537096 date=1266490986]@ HNIC,

Stop arguing like a goat!!!

Fabianski picked up a back pass. . . . .It was a clear freekick so the foul itself is not disputable.
After the foul was given, Sol Campbell held his head and squatted when he should be staying behind the ball and making sure he is standing 1 inch away from the Porto player that wanted to take the freekick quickly. He failed to do that.

Fabianski had the ball in his grasp, a foul has been given. He knew there was no player behind him to defend. . . . .He gave the ball back to his opponent and then turn his back to complain to the line-assistant. If that is not first class idiocy, then i dunno what it is.
Someone like Lehmann or Petr Cech woulda hoofed the ball away and cop a yellow card but he woulda saved time for his players to regroup.

There's no law that says freekicks/corner kicks should not be taken quickly.
The onus is on the defending team to quickly regroup and not be caught napping. Arsenal failed to do just that and they paid for it.
U keep arguing the referee blocked Sol Campbell. . . . .What was Sol Campbell doing in that position. He should be standing behind the ball, Fabianski also should be standing behind the ball when he gave the ball back to the referee.[/quote]Balderdash as usual!
Who gave the ball back to the opponent?
Unless you mean the opponent was the referee
The refereee demanded for the ball! and it was given to him.
He should blow the whistle to restart play!
He had the ball in his hands
He could as well have played it wiith his left foot into the net!
We've blamed Fab,blamed Sol, but saying the ref did no wrong is appalling

@Tkb417
Stop saying,blame the keeper.
Like Debosky said, I think it should be the last match he should play for Arsenal.
HOwever, the ref is still an idiot.
Come on, presido, stop comparing this with Henry's.
TH14's own was 20-25 yards away.
I would have prefered it if it was the Porto player that grabbed the ball and played a fast one
But the assumption is that once the referee holds the ball, Play is stopped and the referee blows the whistle to restart the game.
Come on, he DEMANDED the ball from Fabianski and gave it to the PORTO player!!!! in the box 18 .
Tell me if you have ever seen a quick freekick being taken 5 yards from goal
In the same way, it's ok for a penalty to be awarded and the ref demands the ball from the goalie, gives the opposing team's player,
he quickly runs to the spot and wham!, ball is in the back of the net,no whistle, no nothing, afterall, it's also a foul!
I don't get it

Anyways, we move on
Sunderland next on Saturday

@tk417,
No need to answer you.
Just read Eastbay's comments.
Are you sure you saw the match?
i have already dissed Fabianski
What else do you want me to say?
The ref had to collect the ball from him . . .and hand it to the Porto Player?
The referee should have just kicked the ball into the net himself!
It would have been fairer!
Ref blocked Campbell!
Go watch it again!

How anyone who has eyes and watches footie can claim Rosicky dived is shocking
I am ok, if we call it poor refereeing, but to say it was a dive is unbelievable.
About the 2nd goal, people keep talking about Henry's goal which was at least 20-25 yards away from goal.
I have been watching footie for decades and I can say,I have never seen a quick freekick being taken in the box 18
FFS, A penalty was more diifficult to score last night.
Fine,Fabianski was silly in not hoofing the ball away
but. . . . .
The ref demanded for the ball and gave it to the Porto player
No whistle was blown
and he was blocking Sol Campbell!!!
If the same thing had happenned to any other team, I would still have spoken the truth!
The referee was a disgrace!

dayokanu:
Deductive reasoning is actually asking for too much from a GAYYner.

Regarding best player, all pundits cant come with the same player but the best player would mostly be in the top 3 of them all.

That was what Hleb was to Arsenal geddit?

Mine would be Hleb, Fabregas and Flamini in that order

@DK
You must think we are all silly.
1st you said Hleb was the best player
Next you said he was in top three.
Soon, you will say top five
Who cares whether Hleb was 'MAradona' to you and other non-Arsenal fans.
Like your opinion doesn't suck
All I was saying is 'where is the consistency'
Changing your mind in 30 minutes
Rubbish.
With his being WFOTY in Arsenal, what did he win during his time?
I am surprised y'all are not shouting about Senderos
Since all players that leave Arsenal are 'superstars'

asscend:
MR CRACKLES

CROSS OR NO CROSS, IT WAS AN ATTEMT AIMED TOWARDS THE POST, HOW MANY DID ARSENAL TAKE TODAY?

DOMINATE POSESSION YES, BUT NO END PRODUCT.

I KNOW YOU THINK YOUR'E THE ONLY ONE THAT KNOWS FOOT BALL, HOWEVER EVEN PAID PUNDITS AND COMENTATORS ARE SAYING THE SAME THING.

FINISH TEAMS OFF BY MAKING MORE POSITIVE EFFORT ON GOAL.

JUST SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT,

One question-How has Arsenal scored 60 goals in the league this season in 24/25 matches?
By pass,pass,pass

Anyone remebers the Rozzi penalty shout
If that wasn't a penalty,I wonder what is
Referee was a disgrace!!!!!!!!

proudly9ja:
I can't eally fault Sol and Fabianski for the second goal. If you watch the replay, the ref was standing right in front of Sol. He blocked our player!

Thought I was the only one that noticed it.
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

presido1:
FAB4 call them school boys goals, he is not happy at all.
Goals are scored sometimes by deflection. Give it a try you never know what the out come will be.

Sometimes when we shoot,like we did tonight and the opponent stops it,we don't notice it.
The lads played well tonight.
We were undone by Fabianski
and I still can't imagine an indirect kick being played quickly in the 18 yard box and the ref seizing the ball from the goalie and handing it over to the Porto player!
The Stuff looked like something from a home movie!!!!

MrCrackles:
Shoot the ball into a crowd of Porto players with one charging at him like a hungry hyena
You guys just sit the fu/ck behind the TV and dont actually play, so i am not surprised!!
Psssff!!

Analysts on the net,on TV say we dont shoot, so sometimes people think its kool to shoot even from the halfway line!