Romance › Re: I Mistakenly Impregnated A Woman by Homguy(m): 3:23pm On May 05, 2017 |
infantlion: Hello fellow Nairanders,
Once upon a time in 2016, I fell in love with a beautiful damsel who happened to be a virgin. We became very intimate and had great sex.After sex, she always thanked me for making her feel so extraordinary.As at that time, I was madly in love with her.
We got engaged in December 2016 in a grant style due to the fact that am working as a graduate engineer in a multinational firm.
I sincerely had the intention of taking her to the altar until early February, my friend alerted me that he saw my girl in a club with four(4) young men...I got worried and quickly called, her phone rang, no response.I gave her 458 missed calls until later in the evening, she answered"Nkem, am so sorry, I was sleeping while your calls came through"
I wept and called my friend to confirm if his is very sure of what he told me...He insisted.I kept wondering, how could an engaged woman flirt around with guys? I was shocked because I got 95% of what women need-money, good sex,good looking, good job e.t.c
In a nutshell, I invited her to my place and interrogated her and she admitted that she went to club with those guys but nothing happened.No woman would truly agree that she "spreaded" her legs for another man.
My feelings for her crashed to 0%..She pleaded for 30 days until she involved my pastor.My pastor told me to embrace forgiveness which I did...We started all over again and she promised to be faithful, loyal and honest at all times..
A month later she took in.The badnews came as a shock to me because I never cum inside her whenever we had sex...I quickly rushed to see my family doctor.He told me there is 100% chances of any woman to get pregnant with the method I adopted.
Due to the fact that my feelings for her is still at 0%, I begged her for an abortion and she replied"over my dead body"..Her family called me and I told them I am not ready and they threatened to arrest me...They sent her to my house last week with her protruded stomach without my consent...It was very late and I had no choice than to let her in.
Luck ran out of her this morning when she got a call from one Pastor Mike...I was curious to know if it is "hygienic" for a pastor to call a beautiful damsel in the early hours of the day...I questioned her and she told me the guy is a genuine pastor... Me:pastor of which church? She:Catholic Church Do catholic church ordain pastors?
I called the so-called Pastor Mike and he said, he is not a pastor.
I have contacted my family and friends, but am not yet comfortable with their counsel.
One good thing about Nairanders is that from the bad, the good and the ugly comments, a wise OP should be able to get something out of nothing.
Long live Nairanders!!! Long live the Federal Republic of Nigeria!!! She's carrying another person's child bro. Girls do this always . my colleague was almost a victim until he forced her to confess. That was when she admited That she had met two other guys some days before meeting him and since he was a pharmacist , she thought he d help her solve it. So bro , u are in a fix really. |
Romance › Re: My Boyfriend Blocked Me On WhatsApp Because Of This by Homguy(m): 1:11pm On Apr 19, 2017 |
jordanriverz: i know but, you know how it feels when u love someone deeply....its hard to let go You will cry very loudly , very soon if u don't give yourself brain. That guy is married , and you are the side chic. Don't break another's home. Leave that idiot alone. You are just a sex object. |
Romance › Re: My Boyfriend Blocked Me On WhatsApp Because Of This by Homguy(m): 1:09pm On Apr 19, 2017 |
jordanriverz: what should I do please You will cry very loudly , very soon if u don't give yourself brain. That guy is married , and you are the side chic. Don't break another's home. Leave that idiot alone. You are just a sex object. |
Health › Re: Do You Sell/know Where I Can By A Scoliometer, Flexicurve, And Goniometer? by Homguy(op): 6:43am On Apr 18, 2017 |
It's needed for a masters project. |
Health › Re: Do You Sell/know Where I Can By A Scoliometer, Flexicurve, And Goniometer? by Homguy(op): 6:42am On Apr 18, 2017 |
I have tried stores around me but none sells |
Health › Do You Sell/know Where I Can By A Scoliometer, Flexicurve, And Goniometer? by Homguy(op): 10:47pm On Apr 17, 2017 |
Dear Sirs/Ma, Please I need these physiotherapy equipments and I haven't been able to get them where I reside. Please if you sell or know where I can purchase them please call or drop your comments. Thanks.
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Business › Do You Sell A Scoliometer, Goniometer And A Flexicurve .Physiotherapy Euipments? by Homguy(op): 10:20pm On Apr 17, 2017 |
Hello ,please if you sell these physiotherapy equipments or know where I can purchase them please let me know. Its for a project on scoliosis. Please help a brother. Thanks.
Cc; Mynd44 Lalasticala Bosses Please help move to front page if possible. So that more people can see it and solve this problem. Thanks. |
Romance › Re: Drop Your Pick Up Lines... by Homguy(m): 3:39pm On Apr 16, 2017 |
Me; Hey dear, I like ur dress.
Her; Thanks.
Me; Can I ask one question?
Her; Sure no prob.
Me; I think your right ear lobe is lower than d left.
Her; Lmao, you are not serious.
Me; I am not sure I am.
Her; My name is Segun, Yours?
Her; Tolu
Me; Alright, I live around here, and I' ld want to see again, say tomorrow?
Her; Lol, I am not sure.
Me; Lemme have ur digits, I ll beep u.
Her; No prob |
Romance › Re: My Babe's Bestie Is A Male And They Sleep Together Alone In The Same Room. by Homguy(m): 11:51pm On Apr 10, 2017 |
legislatively: Seriously, my babe has a male bestie, she spends time with him, I don't understand such friendship becsuase I don't keep female friends, I believe going too close to a female may end up in sex but my babe has a male bestie and they spend time together alone in her room, the most annoying thing is that she tells me about it.
Am I being paranoid or this situation is abnormal? You must be a stupid fool. Aren't you supposed to be your girl's bestie? A guys sleeps in the same room with your girl and you are here asking questions... Idiot! It also shows how loose the , slut you are dating is. PS...Some single ladies would never ever allow a guy sleep in the same room with them, not to mention a lady in a relationship. You both must be mad. |
Health › Re: Help! My Dad Is Rotting Away (Graphic Photo) by Homguy(m): 2:21pm On Apr 02, 2017 |
BiniShrine: Gory picture attached please.
Doctors in the house pls come to my aid.
Has this gone beyond bed sore?
Is there any hope for my dad to get healed?
Is there a remedy for the wound on us back to get healed again?
Is this beyond medical prognosis?
Should we look for alternative? Please mod do the needful. http://www.healthline.com/health/pressure-ulcer#stages2 please go through this link. |
Politics › Re: Any deltan That Believes In Biafra, is Not A Deltan. by Homguy(m): 2:29pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
SGTsmith001: . I actually gave you the response an average deltan would give you but you just diverted ur attention to it .I am done with you because you have already been unmasked as an afonja doing their normal "we SS" stuff.you guys should stop it already cos its becoming stale where are you from? First things first! I have told u mine. State urs. |
Politics › Re: Any deltan That Believes In Biafra, is Not A Deltan. by Homguy(m): 1:09pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
SGTsmith001: . now I know better.you are a Yoruba guy masquerading as SS. not surprised any way.assuming you are from the south south.Are we the south south in control of our oil now? are the Igbo's in control of our oil now? who is in control of the oil industry today?.how old are you by the way? lol, respond to my post and stop seeking excuses. I am from Delta state, Ndokwa east , Aboh . Olise Vincent. You are definitely and ibo otherwise what size of the SS are u from? |
Politics › Re: Any deltan That Believes In Biafra, is Not A Deltan. by Homguy(m): 12:21pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
Totti9: And who told u we are forcing u brown roofers into biafra, look Mr igbo are only interested in igboland in ur so called SS no one is going to take an inch from it, i know u Afonja is after Aniomaland but we won't say much till wen the time come my name is Olise does that imply afonja too ? |
Politics › Re: Any deltan That Believes In Biafra, is Not A Deltan. by Homguy(m): 11:51am On Mar 26, 2017 |
successmatters: Then park one side while we get our Biafra , who opened this thead? A person claiming south south while Biafran people applaud  great! I have ibo frnds who have been rallying south-southners to join agitation for Biafra. Truth is all the east needs from the south -south is our oil. We all know this. |
Politics › Re: Any deltan That Believes In Biafra, is Not A Deltan. by Homguy(m): 11:36am On Mar 26, 2017 |
Totti9: who the hell do u think u are to threaten igbo race can ur tribe or even ur entire South South stand igbo race, i just think ur a small boy that's why ur saying all this jebbrish ur saying here... Nonsense Mr. igbo race, A.k.a Jews please hold your God forsaken Biafra to yourself/yourselves. The south south is not interested and its not by force, sir! |
Politics › Re: Any deltan That Believes In Biafra, is Not A Deltan. by Homguy(m): 11:12am On Mar 26, 2017 |
Agbaletu: I have some friends from Umunede and they support Biafra. I don't think you are in the position to speak for the whole of Deltans. . We are not Biafrans and will never be. Real Deltans will never support Biafra. |
Politics › Re: Any deltan That Believes In Biafra, is Not A Deltan. by Homguy(m): 11:10am On Mar 26, 2017 |
bantudra: if you come from the area called south south or known as delta and believe in biafra,then you can not be a deltan..
you can not split yourself anyhow you like and call your self belonging to a region the same time..
its either you are south south or south east...you can not be both the same time.....
its getting very annoying that some igbos always say rubbish as ss and se..
ss is not toghether with the se...our different tribes is prove...
better stop it ones and for all....  I am from Aboh, Delta state. I totally agree |
Car Talk › Re: Which Is The Best Cost Effective New Tyre? by Homguy(m): 7:21am On Mar 18, 2017 |
Double king always |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biodun Fatoyinbo Poses With A Bike (Photo) by Homguy(m): 6:36pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Jaynbee: Guess you forgot that he's a man of God, doing exploits for God , go and read about what God did to people that said nonsence abt men of God in the bible. And you'll know what part you are on. This man of God is on a part of good success, even other men of God come to hear him preach. So before you talk, how many lives have you touched positively. I am lost here. Do you understand what you typed up there? I doubt you do. No sane person would except you have been hypnotized. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biodun Fatoyinbo Poses With A Bike (Photo) by Homguy(m): 6:31pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Damn! Just free the Sheeple bro 
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Romance › Re: Raped But Still Loves To ... by Homguy(m): 8:00am On Feb 02, 2017 |
samstradam: Bro, you cannot broaden my understanding of the matter; like I said I have been in the shoes of the OP more than once and these include ladies of different races and classes, yet they all exhibited this dangerous streak the OP's girl is showing.
My issue with the stuff you are writing is you keep insuating the girl is lying and in general you keep equating rape with sex when both are actually quite distinct.
Straight to the point the OPs girl reminds me too much of my own experiences- and one in particular that went as far as not only putting herself in dangerous situations repeatedly but actually engaging in consensual sex with her rapist !! (explaining this will involve another thread). Anyway, she and most other girls that were raped early, tend to be quite truthful and do not lie about these matters to the guy they have chosen to unburden themselves to.
So yeah I feel sympathy, but to the OP because I have been where he's been.
Anyway, I do agree with you that a lady who behaves like this does seem hypocritical, but aren't all ladies hypocrites to a certain extent  Its sad that you really cant get the hang of this thread after so many quotes ...
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Romance › Re: Raped But Still Loves To ... by Homguy(m): 12:49am On Feb 02, 2017 |
jashar: Probably has some weird sexual fetish she wants to play out. BDSM abi what do they call that devilish crap?
OP, berra jejely comot for her life. She needs help but she ain't ready to be helped. wackyj1 FYA |
Romance › Re: Raped But Still Loves To ... by Homguy(m): 12:47am On Feb 02, 2017 |
WackyJ1: So I dated this girl Quite sometime ago
She lost her virginity through Rape when she went to visit a guy in his place just like that (Doubters Union that will say it's not true and that she lied to me, Hold your peace, I know why i believed her)
She is young and she has only been with me after the guy She was very naive then, hence the willingness to just go to the house of a guy she barely knew.
One year after we started dating, on what was supposed to be our anniversary, She called me and said she was almost raped by another male friend, this one she had told me about before, That she screamed and neighbours started knocking, and that was how she was able to make it out of there The guy was already holding her down by the neck choking her and ready to penetrate.
She was shaken up and it was her room-mates that consoled her. She even had nightmares in the days after. That incident would make it her third near rape experience, the first happened before she was actually raped and started her depression issues.
The thing is, she still likes to go to guy's houses where she will be alone with the guy! She is a student. One incident actually baffled me was when she just met some guys and within two weeks she was spending time in their rooms, watching movies and all. it baffled me because anything can happen and she still risks it..
Last Week after some serious thoughts I confronted her that she goes to guys houses because she liked the attention she gets from guys. She likes the attention she gets from guys that she knows want to sleep with her. She then said that she knows it will sound stupid but she feels powerful when she is in those guys' rooms, and some she can control even though she can't control others and in those moments She doesn't feel vulnerable. (She has an issue with vulnerability, she is afraid of getting hurt emotionally).
Pardon the long Post.. But i want to ask the wise and insightful people in the House..
What do you make of this? Is the reason she gave all there is to it, or in your experience is there more? Is she an addict? Have you had any experience with girls like this?
Thanks for the matured comments. Bro these are the options. 1. YOu are dating a psycho. Cause after the 1st 2-3 experiences she should have learnt her lessons. She has no business being with boys when shez got you even tho you are not around her. 2. Shes just a wayward kid. You might have to wait shes 25yrs plus before you start to have rest of mind. 3. Its possible shez not satisfied in yiur relationship and she keeps getting close to other guys to see if she can find that thing, or thrill. 4. I just want you to know this girl might just be a serial cheat. Times spent with boy(s) alone in his room isnt spent reading or picking beans. The boy wiuld want ti smash, and she wiuld have to like him enough to visit ab initio. 5. Shez just playing you which is least unlikely. PLus may i add shez not so smart...why,? You cannot love a dude and keep doing and also telling him thibgs that would hurt/irk or make him question your relationship. My advice? She comes across as a very young girl who just wants ti catch fun if you really are cool with that you have no business posting this topic otherwise, DRAW THE LINE. Set some rulez and attitudes you wont put up with. You dont want to keep wasting your time and resources on a relationship going no where. Her spending time with different guys does not have any benefit to her life, yours or your relationship. Tell her uts got to stop. |
Education › Re: I Am Dropping Out Of The University by Homguy(m): 12:21am On Feb 02, 2017 |
stuffsabouttara: It wasn't real because I have never given it a real thought, well until three days ago, when I just blurted it out to Babe. It had been nagging in my chest, slowly becoming a nuisance, but until I actually said the words to Babe, the idea of dropping out had never been a real thing.
Dropping out of school isn't the sort of thing a girl like me would/should consider. A girl brought up in a good home with everything catered for and stuffs stuffs stuffs. But more reasonably, a girl with so much academic excellence and promise. My secondary school was filled with the same phrases from everyone when I told them I wanted to be a writer, "you want to waste your brains" they would half say, half question. My Papa hammered, drummed and sang the medicine thing - you will be a doctor. They so much believed in me, the girl with her face always buried inside a book. I still wonder why they didn't see it then, why they still can't see it now. Or maybe they can, they are just ignoring it, labeling it insignificant, a child that doesn't know any better.
I grew up reading my Papa's newspapers (with much encouragement from him), then I shifted to novels, history books, documentaries - different sizes, hundreds to thousands of pages. I was so immersed in books (still am) and writing only followed naturally. One time Papa called me into his bedroom and told me he didn't want me to do medicine just because it was what he wanted. That day, he asked me what I really wanted - I said medicine.
Maybe then I didn't know (who the eff am I kidding, I've always known!), but all I've ever wanted to do is write. Nobody was just listening because they felt self assured that someone with brains like mine should automatically choose medicine.
Only Babe has ever looked at me with eyes full of genuine understanding when I say I just want to write. I did physics for a year, then pursued Nursing, got into medicine and surgery, and now switched to pharmacy. And I finally realized the truth that I would not rest if it's not writing. It goes deeper than this, the uncertainty, the shallow feeling of emptiness, it's all irregular and just too depressing. I do not possess the elaborate vocabulary or literary prowress to put into words, how it really feels, the reality of the weight it puts on me.
I told Babe I wanted to drop out. This time, do it my own way. Fill out my jamb form by myself and perhaps go for English and literary studies even if it means rewriting waec. And until now, when I finally voiced it out to Babe, and now typing it, the prospects of dropping out has never felt so real. It seems reckless and foolish but my spirit wouldn't be still.
Originally posted in meetmitchell. Ok, i would take the slim odds that piece is real and not from a bored lady graving attention. I am a pharmacist and, a writer of sorts. I say this only so that you would understand that I do not lack the capacity to see things through your eyes. Back then at school, i had friends in my faculty who were writers not just writers but outstanding writers. I remember Wemimo, Victor(Codex) , Jide(he dropped a book recently), my self included. We all wrote for leisure and the pleasure it provided. They wrote as freelance writers for newsboards on campus and campus magazines. Now, i understand that you might want to delve into writing "bigly" , you might even be way better than us but you can still do that while, and after getting your degree as a pharmacist, physcist, nurse or whatever. I had friends who read english language/ literature back then and had the flare and talent to carve the world with words but are basically just reduced to secondary school teachers now. Please have a good certificate at hand and still pursue your passion. I personally wrote and pasted on boards and walkways under a pseudonym and with time that pen name became very popular. I felt fulfilled. YOu can do same . Write at your leisure, start a book, join a writers club in school or a newsboard. In my school we had Megaphone, Socioscope, i can even remember the others but i was a member of one of the above. You will find people who share your passion for letters while still pursuing your degree. You are totally capable of doing both. I earnestly wish you life's best regardless of your choice, Cheers!!! |
Car Talk › Re: How I Was Trampled By A G-wag G63 AMG At Akure-owo Axis. by Homguy(op): 11:45pm On Jan 29, 2017 |
nams77: Una dey try with all this una speed. I can't even try it now. Life is too sweet and precious. My top speed then was about 160 km /hr and my mind was just telling me say what if something happen now, na be say na baba God you see so. I was just dusting everything on that ughelli- warri Express with my benz190 e 1.8L. I even dusted one highlander 03 model . Though I know say d guy just leave me make I dey show myself that day. And come to think of it, it was the eve to my trad wedding, and I was returning from Madam's village. Thank God say devil no put hand for the matter Drive some very recent cars and you would not know when you start ticking 160km/hr. |
Car Talk › Re: How I Was Trampled By A G-wag G63 AMG At Akure-owo Axis. by Homguy(op): 11:41pm On Jan 29, 2017 |
grrrhh: If Biturbo v8 = two turbos on two i4s, connected to one shaft then G63 AMG = corrola * 4
Forget this dynamic physics hehehe, see as you just ridicle my humble,obedient,reliable ride.. Still love my corolla until something better shows up. |
Car Talk › Re: How I Was Trampled By A G-wag G63 AMG At Akure-owo Axis. by Homguy(op): 11:34pm On Jan 29, 2017 |
thegame: @ OP, let me tell you a story.
In 2012 when I was still a youth corper, I used to escape to Lagos a lot from serving town, osogbo in osun state to enjoy my gidi life as a proper Lagos boy. Our CDs used to be on Thursdays so whenever I run to Lagos on weekends, I usually just leave Thursday morning so I can make it to my CDS meeting latest by 9. Now note, I have never missed my meeting or gotten there late despite leaving Thursday mornings. I start my journey around 5:30/40 and I make it down before 9. I used to drive a well maintained Camry 2.2 aka Diamond and My car was living the life.
Now on this thursday, I had gotten to Iwo road around 8am and I was doing about 140/50 on that stretch, heading towards gbongan. At that speed, it's not speedometer you will fix your eyes on but the road. I looked in my center mirror and I saw AN ANGEL EYES BMW 5 Series GRAN TURISMO coming behind me, it was a 530 or 535i, not so sure. I thought the guy would be with me in bout a min or two or at least make him sweat a little, before I could say jack, dude had breezed past me. I will never forget that day and despite me being a benz person, I actually appreciated BMW that day. That particular car is unique.i doubt any of their other cars could have had the guts to overtake me that way on that day due to our roads and all but dude did it and I never saw him past the next 4 seconds. Vroom, my uncle was gone.
Morale of the story is, a car needs a befitting driver. If you overtake one person driving a g63 and/or any turbo engine, you were only being allowed to play or maybe show off. Those stuff under the hood are not your mates.
Hope my story will make you chill the next time you see a solid German on the road. And just honk your horn as a show of respect for allowing you pass.  Bro,you see,the bolded was the major reason i even attempted such a vain feat, that small odd that the driver of the G wag might not have the guts to push such a hefty ride that far. I wagered on the wrong horse tho.  |
Car Talk › Re: How I Was Trampled By A G-wag G63 AMG At Akure-owo Axis. by Homguy(op): 9:24am On Jan 29, 2017 |
JeffreyJamez: 170kph on that road I'm seeing?......That's a lie. hehehe,from Owo to Uso village is quite a stretch and the road is fair bro. |
Car Talk › Re: How I Was Trampled By A G-wag G63 AMG At Akure-owo Axis. by Homguy(op): 9:22am On Jan 29, 2017 |
Readonee35L: Why would you race a twin turbo V8 . With you 140hp 4 banger corolla. Chief ,he was not so close when i floored my pedals. |
Car Talk › How I Was Trampled By A G-wag G63 AMG At Akure-owo Axis. by Homguy(op): 9:14am On Jan 29, 2017 |
I was driving jejely when i saw this G-wag flashing me from my rear view mirror. The road wasnt so free however, but i was going 110km/hr. On the continuous flashing i felt my 09 corolla should be able able to accelerate faster than the Gwag due to its bulk, i put on my hazard lights and started weaving through traffic until i got through and floored my pedals. My engine groaned but i continued. The Gwag couldnt weave through so easily so he was stuckfor a while. The next time i checked my rear view i saw the Gwag coming with full speed at this time i was at 170km/hr+. My accelerator was still floored but this beast just overtook me like i was coasting. I felt my car shudder a bit when he passed. i already knew it was no contest at all but i just wanted to see if my driving skills might place me ahead. Sadly i was wrong. After i saw the G63 AMG badge on it. I was ashamed and very humbled to have even thought of humiliating such a beast. Lesson learnt 
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Romance › Re: Nairalanders, Help Me Out, She Hasn't Said Yes by Homguy(m): 8:00am On Jan 18, 2017 |
KONJIKILLER: Guys, from that day, I've been treating this girl like a queen, buying her stuff, calling her and doing the regular things a boyfriend would do, hoping she'd eventually agree to date me. Her mom even saw the stuff I bought her, she asked her if we were dating and she told her we were talking about it. All these events happened late last year and she still hasn't made a brother happy. The last time we talked about it was on the 30th of December and she specifically told me she had feeling for me but that "she wants to get her emotions right". Sister what does that mean Bro, i initially didnt want to comment but i think its not fair to you if i dont. Look, have you noticed you dont really fall for that girl thats unnaturally good to you? That goes out of her way to please hoping that you would ask her out? You most likely wont. For what its worth lemme list what the things you are doing in that paragragh des to her. 1. It shows you are desperate even if you are not. Nobody wants a desperate person close by. 2. Buying her a lot of gifts and treating her like a queen even before she says yes feels like you are simply trying to woo her with gifts instead of your persona, anf charisma. You probably have neither to offer. 3. When you are overly nice to her before youstart dating officially,you become a doormat and act like a wussy. Its a big turnoff to ladies. 4. You might think that your gifts would make her like you, but instead it makes her feel indebted to you. Thats not a fweling she'ld want to have for a long time. Its a burden. 5.When u start treating her like a queen before she says YES, you take the fun out of the chase already. what does she get when she eventually agrees, she might as well keep playing along with commiting while enjoying all the benefits of being in a relationship with u. 6. Acting all nice always is unnatural, you are human, you get angry, you get sad, you get happy, you get to yab her joking sometimes,tell her off other times, warn her wen she crosses lines she shldnt,and treat her good wen sometimes. But this your approach means you are almost always smiling ,and happy with her. Its not natuaral bro. I think you should; 1. Cut off the gifts immediately. They ve done more harm than good to your course. Take her out once in a while and that shld suffix. 2. You havr to tease her playfully too. Its very important. Deliberately annoy her sometimes and then pet her again.You need to stir up emotions. Ladies feed on that. 3. Reduce the time you spend with her trying to make her happy. Threaten her subtly with a possiblity of losing you bro. Then u would seem more valuable. 4. Give her a deadline subtly. Noy right away. But after you have done all of the above. My opinion; if she say yes to u now,she would just be playing you. Cause those gifts and acts at making her feel like a queen are ciunter productve. Please make yourself difficult subtly. |
Career › Re: PHOTOS: Ondo Workers Hold Prayer Session As They Resume by Homguy(m): 11:31am On Jan 03, 2017 |
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