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Religion is messed up. Yes true.

But all I can tell you is there is a creator.

God is not the problem. Religion is.

GOD hates Religion

Send a Raven vulture

Na Fayose Holy.

id911:
From his antecedent, Buhari was and would forever be a bad product. He is tribalistic, does not take into consideration the diverse nature of our country and his bigotry is unquantifiable. He is an economic illiterate; ethnically and religiously intolerable.


Atiku is different...

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As long as Obasanjo is alive Atiku will never smell presidency. Obasanjo really tried for this country. He said God will not forgive him is he allows Atiku become president with what he knows.

ashjay001:
They are not avoiding cos they dont know what to say, they're probably avoiding it cos, they've not seen it?!


I'm yet to decide, who is more illogical, btw atheists, ipods, fanatics of religion n republicans

Dem supposed don see am by now!

I know for sure they've seen it and they dodged the thread

Zoning, the monster they created is coming to consume them

saraki2019:
you can learn that in qur'an but in your bible,
see wher you ere told to kill people in the bible
Kill People Who Don’t Listen to Priests

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
“If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents

1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery

If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication

A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, “You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.” When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night

But if this charge is true (that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father’s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Death for Blasphemy

One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD’s name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother’s name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD’s will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, “Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

Kill False Prophets

1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, ‘Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,’ do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)

2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.’ You may wonder, ‘How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?’ If the prophet predicts something in the LORD’s name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)

Infidels and Gays Should Die

So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God’s death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle

For the LORD had said to Moses, ‘Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.’ (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

Kill People for Working on the Sabbath

The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: ‘Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.’ (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)



2) God’s Murders for Stupid Reasons:

Kill Brats

From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. “Go up baldhead,” they shouted, “go up baldhead!” The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

God Kills the Curious

And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and’ fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us? (1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)

Killed by a Lion

Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, “Strike me!” But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, “Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me.” And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him. (1 Kings 20:35-36 NLT)

Killing the Good Samaritan

The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals.

When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God. (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)



3) Murdering Children

Kill Sons of Sinners

Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

God Will Kill Children

The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered.” O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don’t give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, “All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children.” (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

Kill Men, Women, and Children

“Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.” (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

God Kills all the First Born of Egypt

And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)

Kill Old Men and Young Women

“You are my battle-ax and sword,” says the LORD. “With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. “As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem,” says the LORD. “Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy,” says the LORD. “I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out,” says the LORD. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

(Note that after God promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter. So much for an all-knowing and all-powerful God.)

God Will Kill the Children of Sinners

If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

More Rape and Baby Killing

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)



4) Miscellaneous Murders

More of Samson’s Murders

(The Lord saves Sampson from standing trial for 30 murders and arson by allowing him to kill 1000 more men.) When he reached Lehi, and the Philistines came shouting to meet him, the spirit of the Lord came upon him: the ropes around his arms become as flax that is consumed by fire and the bonds melted away from his hands. Near him was the fresh jawbone of an ass; he reached out, grasped it, and with it killed a thousand men. (Judges 15:14-15 NAB)

Peter Kills Two People

There was also a man named Ananias who, with his wife, Sapphira, sold some property. He brought part of the money to the apostles, but he claimed it was the full amount. His wife had agreed to this deception. Then Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart? You lied to the Holy Spirit, and you kept some of the money for yourself. The property was yours to sell or not sell, as you wished. And after selling it, the money was yours to give away. How could you do a thing like this? You weren’t lying to us but to God.” As soon as Ananias heard these words, he fell to the floor and died. Everyone who heard about it was terrified. Then some young men wrapped him in a sheet and took him out and buried him. About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. Peter asked her, “Was this the price you and your husband received for your land?” “Yes,” she replied, “that was the price.” And Peter said, “How could the two of you even think of doing a thing like this – conspiring together to test the Spirit of the Lord? Just outside that door are the young men who buried your husband, and they will carry you out, too.” Instantly, she fell to the floor and died. When the young men came in and saw that she was dead, they carried her out and buried her beside her husband. Great fear gripped the entire church and all others who heard what had happened. (Acts 5:1-11 NLT)

Mass Murder

This is what the Lord of hosts has to say: ‘I will punish what Amalek did to Israel when he barred his way as he was coming up from Egypt. Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.’ (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)

You Have to Kill

Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood. (Jeremiah 48:10 NAB)

Yawns****

Tldr

All those things you mentioned are for who? The Israelites.

Show me where Jesus Christ specifically said I should kill. I'm waiting.

Even if those things are written in the Bible. How many Christians are acting it out in this age.

Muslims will kill you for only talking bad about Mr m. Mr. M is even greater than Allah.

Let's perform a social experiment. Go to the most Christian City and insult Jesus openly. If you get out alive, you give me N500000. Then go to Saudi Arabia and insult Mohammed in publicif you make it out alive I give you 500000.

Deal?

blueAgent:
Excellent article. no thoughtless lifeless Whirlwind or force can create or code the Human DNA never not even in 100billion years.

Its funny how Atheists and Liberals accept and apply mathematical probability everyday
but refuse it when it disproves their fantasy call Evillusion.

These people are avoiding this thread like the plague.

I'm waiting for them

A pattern is any distinctly organized sequence. Patterns occur everywhere in nature — the spiraling seeds of a sunflower, the hexagonal cells of a honeycomb, the circular ripples on a pond when a fish jumps, et cetera.

On the other hand, “Codes are special….Codes, by definition, must carry information. They must do more than simply form a pattern — codes must transmit data and convey meaning.” The kicker:

Codes do not occur naturally in the world. Musical notation does not sprout from trees, and symbols do not draw themselves in the sand. Codes are the deliberate inventions of intelligent consciousness.

So codes always have an intention or awareness behind them?

Exactly. Codes don’t appear organically; they must be created.

What about DNA? Bingo! The genetic code. That’s the paradox.

You think DNA was created by an intelligence?

When I witness the precision of mathematics, the reliability of physics, the symmetries of the cosmos, I don’t feel like I’m observing cold science; I feel as if I’m seeing a living footprint…the shadow of some greater force that is just beyond our grasp.

The heart of the problem is that physical laws are simple and general, and by their nature they produce the same thing over and over again. Law-governed processes can produce simple repetitive patterns, as in crystals, but they can’t produce the complex, specified sequences by which the nucleotides of DNA code for proteins any more than they can produce the sequence of letters on a page of a textbook.

Snowflakes are a crystal, and form easily by natural laws. They actually have a very low level of complexity. Like all crystals, they can be described easily by the laws that govern chemical bonding and atomic packing. For that reason, among others, nobody claims that snowflakes or crystals require explanation by design. Because they are characterized by low CSI, or “Complex and Specified Information,” we wouldn’t expect them to trigger a design inference.

There you have it life is a product of intelligence.
cc: blueAgent

A pattern is any distinctly organized sequence. Patterns occur everywhere in nature — the spiraling seeds of a sunflower, the hexagonal cells of a honeycomb, the circular ripples on a pond when a fish jumps, et cetera.

On the other hand, “Codes are special….Codes, by definition, must carry information. They must do more than simply form a pattern — codes must transmit data and convey meaning.” The kicker:

Codes do not occur naturally in the world. Musical notation does not sprout from trees, and symbols do not draw themselves in the sand. Codes are the deliberate inventions of intelligent consciousness.

So codes always have an intention or awareness behind them?

Exactly. Codes don’t appear organically; they must be created.

What about DNA? Bingo! The genetic code. That’s the paradox.

You think DNA was created by an intelligence?

When I witness the precision of mathematics, the reliability of physics, the symmetries of the cosmos, I don’t feel like I’m observing cold science; I feel as if I’m seeing a living footprint…the shadow of some greater force that is just beyond our grasp.

The heart of the problem is that physical laws are simple and general, and by their nature they produce the same thing over and over again. Law-governed processes can produce simple repetitive patterns, as in crystals, but they can’t produce the complex, specified sequences by which the nucleotides of DNA code for proteins any more than they can produce the sequence of letters on a page of a textbook.

Snowflakes are a crystal, and form easily by natural laws. They actually have a very low level of complexity. Like all crystals, they can be described easily by the laws that govern chemical bonding and atomic packing. For that reason, among others, nobody claims that snowflakes or crystals require explanation by design. Because they are characterized by low CSI, or “Complex and Specified Information,” we wouldn’t expect them to trigger a design inference.

There you have it life is a product of intelligence.

saraki2019:
the only way the feel the presence f God Almighty is through
reading the Holy Qur'an and paying attention to the meaning of the verses
meditating about the wonderful creatures of Allah
doing zikr ( remembrance of Allah)
and if you mean to feel the presence of jesus,
sorry JESUS IS not in this world, you can wait till when HE come for the 2nd time.

op any other way you felt any presence Apart from the above , is the presence f demons and ghost, spirits .jinns

After reading the quran I felt an intense urge to kill innocent people for my allah and for muhamed .

CAPSLOCKED:


AFTER READING ALL YOU WROTE ABOVE, I CANNOT HELP BUT SUGGEST YOU GO FOR A MENTAL EXAMINATION.

YOU NEED A PSYCHOLOGIST, A NEUROLOGIST, A PSYCHIATRIST, AND COMMON SENSE.

Jesus is Lord

Genocidal Governor

Your speaking in tongues is a lie. You are just deceiving yourself.

The only way to feel God's presence is if you love God and your neighbor. Who is your neighbor?

God is love.

effico:
75 BIBLICAL REASONS WHY YOU SHOULD NOT
GET DRUNK
1) Genesis 9:20-26 - Noah became drunk; the
result was immorality and family trouble.
2) Genesis 19:30-38 - Lot was so drunk he did
not know what he was doing; this led to
immorality
3) Leviticus 10:9-11 - God commanded priests not
to drink so that they could tell the difference
between
the holy and the unholy.
4) Numbers 6:3 - The Nazarites were told to eat or
drink nothing from the grape vine.
5) Deuteronomy 21:20 - A drunken son was
stubborn and rebellious.
6) Deuteronomy 29:5-6 - God gave no grape juice
to Israel nor did they have intoxicating drink in the
wilderness.
7) Deuteronomy 32:33 - Intoxicating wine is like
the poison of serpents, the cruel venom of asps.
Judges 13:4, 7, 14 - Samson was to be a
Nazarite for life. His mother was told not to drink
wine or
strong drink.
9) 1 Samuel 1:14-15 - Accused, Hannah said she
drank no wine.
10) 1 Samuel 25:32-38 - Nabal died after a
drunken spree.
11) 2 Samuel 11:13 - By getting Uriah drunk,
David hoped to cover his sin.
12) 2 Samuel 13:28-29 - Amnon was drunk when
he was killed.
13) 1 Kings 16:8-10 - The king was drinking
himself into drunkenness when he was
assassinated
14) 1 Kings 20:12-21 - Ben-Hadad and 32 other
kings were drinking when they were attacked and
defeated by the Israelites.
15) Esther 1:5-12 - The king gave each one all the
drink he wanted. The king was intoxicated when
he
commanded the queen to come.
16) Psalm 75:8 - The Lord’s anger is pictured as
mixed wine poured out and drunk by the wicked.
17) Proverbs 4:17 - Alcoholic drink is called the
wine of violence.
18) Proverbs 20:1 - Wine is a mocker, strong drink
is raging.
19) Proverbs 23:19-20 - A wise person will not be
among the drinkers of alcoholic beverages.
20) Proverbs 23:21 - Drunkenness causes poverty.
21) Proverbs 23:29-30 - Drinking causes woe,
sorrow, fighting, babbling, wounds without cause
and red
eyes.
22) Proverbs 23:31 - God instructs not to look at
intoxicating drinks.
23) Proverbs 23:32 - Alcoholic drinks bite like a
serpent, sting like an adder.
24) Proverbs 23:33 - Alcohol causes the drinker to
have strange and adulterous thoughts, produces
willfulness, and prevents reformation.
25) Proverbs 23:34 - Alcohol makes the drinker
unstable
26) Proverbs 23:35 - Alcohol makes the drinker
insensitive to pain so he does not perceive it as a
warning. Alcohol is habit forming.
27) Proverb 31:4-5 - Kings, Princes, and others
who rule and judge must not drink alcohol. Alcohol
perverts good judgment.
28) Proverbs 31:6-7 - Strong drink could be given
to those about to perish or those in pain. Better
anesthetics are available today.
29) Ecclesiastes 2:3 - The king tried everything,
including intoxicating drink, to see if it satisfied. It
did not.
(Ecclesiastes 12:
30) Ecclesiastes 10:17 - A land is blessed when
its leaders do not drink.
31) Isaiah 5:11-12 - Woe to those who get up
early to drink and stay up late at night to get
drunk.
32) Isaiah 5:22 - Woe to "champion" drinkers and
"experts" at mixing drinks.
33) Isaiah 19:14 - Drunken men stagger in their
vomit.
34) Isaiah 22:12-13 - The Israelites choose to
drink; their future looks hopeless to them.
35) Isaiah 24:9 - Drinkers cannot escape the
consequences when God judges.
36) Isaiah 28:1 - God pronounces woe on the
drunkards of Ephraim.
37) Isaiah 28:3 - Proud drunkards shall be trodden
down.
38) Isaiah 28:7 - Priests and prophets stagger and
reel from beer and wine, err in vision, and stumble
in
judgment.
39) Isaiah 28:8 - Drinkers’ tables are covered with
vomit and filth.
40) Isaiah 56:9-12 - Drinkers seek their own gain
and expect tomorrow to be just like today.
41) Jeremiah 35:2-14 - The Rechabites drank no
grape juice or intoxicating wine and were blessed.
42) Ezekiel 44:21 - Again God instructed the
priests not to drink wine.
43) Daniel 1:5-17 - Daniel refused the king’s
intoxicating wine and was blessed for it along with
his
abstaining friends.
44) Daniel 5:1 - Belshazzar, ruler of Babylon; led
his people in drinking.
45) Daniel 5:2-3 - The king, along with his nobles,
wives, and concubines, drank from the goblets
which
had been taken from God’s temple.
46) Daniel 5:4 - Drinking wine was combined with
praising false gods.
47) Daniel 5:23 - God sent word to Belshazzar that
punishment would be swift for the evil he had
committed.
48) Hosea 4:11 - Intoxicating wine takes away
intelligence.
49) Hosea 7:5 - God reproves princes for drinking.
50) Joel 1:5 - Drunkards awake to see God’s
judgment.
51) Joel 3:3 - The enemy is judged for selling girls
for wine.
52) Amos 2:8 - Unrighteous acts of Israel included
the drinking of wine which had been taken for the
payment of fines.
53) Amos 2:12 - Israel is condemned for forcing
Nazarites to drink wine.
54) Micah 2:11 - Israelites are eager to follow false
teachers who prophesy plenty of intoxicating
drinks.
55) Nahum 1:10 - The drunkards of Nineveh will
be destroyed by God.
56) Habakkuk 2:5 - A man is betrayed by wine.
57) Habakkuk 2:15 - Woe to him that gives his
neighbor drink.
58) Habakkuk 2:16 - Drinking leads to shame.
59) Matthew 24:48-51 - A drinking servant is
unprepared for his Lord’s return.
60) Luke 1:15 - John the Baptist drank neither
grape juice nor wine.
61) Luke 12:45 - Christ warned against
drunkenness.
62) Luke 21:34 - Drunkenness will cause a person
not to be ready for the Lord’s return.
63) Romans 13:13 - Do not walk in drunkenness
or immorality.
64) Romans 14:21 - Do not do anything that will
hurt your testimony as a believer.
65) 1 Corinthians 5:11 - If a Christian brother is a
drinker, do not associate with him.
66) 1 Corinthians 6:10 - Drunkards will not inherit
the kingdom of God
67) Galatians 5:21 - Acts of the sinful nature, such
as drunkenness, will prohibit a person from
inheriting
the kingdom of God.
68) Ephesians 5:18 - In contrast to being drunk
with wine, the believer is to be filled with the Spirit.
69) 1 Thessalonians 5:6-7 - Christians are to be
alert and self-controlled, belonging to the day.
Drunkards
belong to the night and darkness.
70) 1 Timothy 3:2-3 - Bishops (elders) are to be
temperate, sober, and not near any wine.
71) 1 Timothy 3:8 - Deacons are to be worthy of
respect and not drinkers.
72) 1 Timothy 3:11 - Deacons’ wives are to be
temperate and sober.
73) Titus 1:7-8 - An overseer is to be disciplined.
74) Titus 2:2-3 - The older men and older women
of the church are to be temperate and not addicted
to
wine.
75) 1 Peter 4:3-4 - The past life of drunkenness
and carousing has no place in the Christian’s life.
NO DRUNKARD SHALL INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF
GOD 1 COR 6,10

There fixed.

By the way I ate cake preserved in alcohol yesterday. I have sinned. Even the blood tonic i took too has alcohol. I have sinned.

I drink and I'm still better spiritually than people who see alcohol as a sin.
next!

This one don die if na naija

You are stupid for mentioning Igbo guy. Very stupid

BudeYahooCom:
This abooki funny ooo, it took IPOB and Kanu to jolt your empty skull into embracing common sense 17 years after.

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PAGAN9JA:
I believe you lack the power to reason and speak logically.

Did I ever mention anything about discriminating between different tribal or ethnic groups? Don't divert the topic.

Neither have I mentioned my tribe here or spoken of any superiority complex.


This is the problem with pseudo-liberals. They have the tendency to create a race/sectarian issue out of a non existent one.

I am proud of my tribe. That doesnt mean I should discriminate others. Neither does that mean I should force myself to fvck them ane breed offspring with them. Be aware of the difference.


I know the difference. Read what I wrote again. A chimp didnt just drop from the sky and become a chimp in one day. A chimp is the result of thousands of years of evolution and divergence of species from a parent group.
Same with humans.


War.

What ever you're proud of it doesn't change the scientific logic that tribe is inconsequential when it comes to humans being fruitful and multiplying.

I'm talking from the angle of science. You should have dechipered that. Culture, tribe and religion are unimportant when it comes to love, sex, kindness, fruitfulness. Tribe, belief is the basis of "us against them" and the general knowledge that we are all the same and just trying to survive can lead to a better world.

Clan based thinking does more harm than good.

Evolution is a fable and despite it being widely supported by scientists who desperately want to kick out a creator.

Yes animals change overtime but they can't change to another species by Natural selection. Evolution theory is as good as Larmacks theory. Recent microbiology, information theory, is incompatible with your theory of evolution.

The theory of evolution has never answered the age long question of the origin of species. It belongs in the trash.

Try to see the bigger picture outside your tribe.

PAGAN9JA:
We are related to Chimpanzee and bananas too you know. We share 98% similar DNA to chimps. yet we are so different. even a small change in DNA can cause a huge difference.

Evolution is diversionary. Not conversionary. its an ongoing process.


How do you think horses and zebras developed. they dont interbreed now because by nature they have evolved and gradually distanced into separate species.

some very close cousins such as tigers and lions are now two different species. Infact they produce sterile offsprijg if forced to breed together.



The point here is there is no such thing as humanity or a single human "race". We are such a diverse specie.


And btw its everyones choice to marry whomsover they wish. But as traditionalist Pagans we have very strong reasons to have our views which are based on multiple reasons. you wont believe the kind of diverse factors which are associated to this issue.

It is a very controversial topic.

Oh no. When next you board a plane or perhaps you want to go for surgery please make sure you specifically ask for someone of your own tribe and not a competent human. Ooonkayn!

You obviously know nothing about genetics. A chimp is a chimp despite the similarities of "known" genes with Human. A chimp can't produce viable offspring with humans for genetical reasons. One of those reasons is why a chimp will beget a chimp, dog a dog, goat a goat.

Peace

snake lives matter

PAGAN9JA:
There is no such thing as humanity. Your version of humanity maybe diifferent from someone elses version of humanity.
in one culture killing animals may be the norm. in another tribe killing animals may be a grave taboo. in one culture polygamy might be the norm. in another it might be the opposite.

put a bunch of detribalized people in a room and they will still find reasons to kill each other.

Tribes are exactly what humanity is all about. Tribes are the natural laws of human society shaoed by the geography, environment, human movement etc throughout the course of history. The tribes are nothing but real live examples of human evolution in motion. Humans like animals also are not immune to evolution. the devlopment of human anthropology inependent o each other based on their natural adaptations is an ongoing process which the early Pagan ancestors realised. therefore despite all odds they have maintained the tribal structure to date.

if you notice throughout the pages of history , the onky destructive forces to the natural existence of tribal units has been abrahamic religion.

The native americans were invaded , killed AND Forcefullly assimilated. white spaniards were ordered to forcibly rape and marry native american tribal women. this was done in order to assimilate them and destroy their culture and bloodlines which was connected to their Pagan faith and roots. thus paving the way to further destroy nature and the world with the creation of modern usa. but thats all another matter.
this systematic assimilation and detribalization of aboriginal natives continued way into the last centuryby the us govt.
the Roman catholic paoacy centred in Rome also drafted laws for the detribalization of europe, the destruction of extended families and the promotion of nuclear families. this was all done with a sole aim to destroy their society their culture and most importantly their PAGANISM. their humanity. what happened later you all know. colonialism etc. and once the tribes were destroyed , the aboriginal europeans could not return to their Pagan roots. the sending of Norman forces to Angles Saxon britain etc .all these are phased events. Moreover you will notice to date the ripple effects of these moves by observing the stark difference between West Europe and East Europe. why one was the driver of colonialism while the other is largely poor/isolated. etc.


Tribes preserve their genopool. They keep their dominant genopool intact. this is why despite occassional stray cases of assimilation that may have occured, the dominant genopool remains intact in tribes.

Take an Igbo person and leave him amongst Yorubas. he may adobt their customs but he doesnt lose his hummanity. he still holds his Igboness. he still has a flat head. you can cover a wolf in sheep skin but it will still remain a wolf.


One more thing of note. Yorubas and Igbos are still of the same Greater Ethnic group. Congoid people. the difference will be greater once you put a semitic/Chadic person into the equation.

Yes again thanks for explaining the evolution of humans. I have not contradicted you there. infact I use that conclusion as a support for my argument. Human evolution is ongoing and a natural process. the turn of the 20th century certainly brought large changes in the natural diet and lifestyle of people (thus you see a rise in health complications etc)

However i am sure that if the diverse human ethnic groups were further allowed to follow the process of evolution and natural selection we wiuld see the rise of new species.


Again you have just ignored a very vital piece of information . "white" supermacist. the whites have been long detribalized by christianity. the whites of today especially the white americans are a mix of diverse races. heck you are very likely to find native american and creole-black in them.

but the same cannot be applied on a subsaharan african ,e.g. or one of the other true Pagan tribes. you wont find such a high percentage of admixture. This is what the tribe is all about. it is more than just culture. it is genetics too.

A belief doesnt just randomly develop.Amongst the millions of tribes existant on Earth, Show me one true Pagan tribal religion that has a man founder or a prophet and i will renounce my Pagan faith. These beliefs are itself from the early stages of evolution of humanity.

Recent studies in the Human genome suggests that we are all related and the best way to describe how closely related we are is that we are all cousins. Genetically you and I are cousins. we are not discussing religion or pagan faith here. I'm explaining to you why the whole humanity is one race.

PAGAN9JA:
You are wrong. dont make up bullshyt fairytales.

The evolution of tribes marks the natural evolution of man. the day the tribes will be destroyed is the day our societies and cultures will vanishm just like what hapoened to the native americans etc during the assimillation progroms. the tribes are tied to the natural functioning of this land.

The tribes have existed since eons.

can you tell whaat makes a Han Chinese man different from a Yoruba man. how can you just say its all labels when the difference is crystal clear right before your eyes!

Tribes are natural evolutionary traits of humans. unfortunately since the last 100 yrs , the world has been pushed into turmoil. thw changes were evident wver sinc ethe rise of abrahamic fiatha that are oushing our societies to doom.

And you cant call me racist for striving to protect my tribal blood unity amongst our brethren, my culture, my customs (food dress), my Language, My traditional tribal religion,etc.

Our societies function different from the west. here we have the concept of extended families and tribal kinships as well as long lasting marriages. unlike the nuclear families in the west.

here we look after our parents, grandparents, etc. unlike there were they leave their homes and run off.

You are plain wrong and all you stated here are mere assertions.

The native Americans were invaded and a lot of them were killed. And I say tribes/culture is a hinderance to the unity of humanity. Tribes are still made up of humans

Tribes are not evolutionary changes there are no change in genetic material just a concentration.

Culture is the only thing that makes a group of peeps a tribe. Take an Igbo new born . Give him to Yoruba parents he become Yoruba. That a Yoruba guy right there no longer Igbo.

The difference between Chinese and Igbo or Hausa are just phenotypical the account to less than 0.02% of the human genome.

We look dark because there is a concentration of dark genes in our area. This is what is called gene pool. Major cause is migration and adaptation. In the creation of humans when there wasn't much science, a light skin person would easily die before they reach reporductive age in the a continent like Africa (no protection from the UV rays of the sun "cancer" and vice versa in the temperate regions they don't have enough sunlight there and people with dark skin will lack a a vital vitamin "sun vitamin" and die young. The red Indians have brown skin despite living in the tropics but because of the forests they didn't really adapt to be dark.

Let me even shock you. There is no pure race. Do a proper research. A white supremacists leader did a gene test and found that 35% of his genes come from sub Saharan Africa. His house was destroyed by his followers. they say he wasn't pure. They called him black.

You see the human genome is wide for each part of the world some of it were filtered out by migration and adaptation. I didn't mention migration meeting each other and mixing. As you are you are genetically closer to one white guy somewhere than you tribes man. Who knows we could be genetical twins.

During the course of migration cultures (a set of beliefs) develop. So therefore culture ain't genetic. It's just a belief.

When it comes to Science and facts kick belief, tradition, tribe out the door. They are useless

Catalonia was a country for 8seconds

Your sense is on leave

blackbeau1:
bigots or not, you need your parents blessings . Marriage isn't a joke. It's not bf/gf.

Parents blessings. What if you're the only two people remaining. You'll still not marry because of parents blessings?

PAGAN9JA:
love is just temptation and illusion.

if you focus hars you can even fall in love with a lifeless chair.

just like many ppl fall in love with dogs , jesus, allah etc.


tribe is important.

marriage ia the union of two families . tribe is culture language religion everything.

How is tribe important. As far as I am concerned there's no such thing as tribe. Igbo, Yoruba, black white are nothing but labels. We are all the same.

Only bigots and racists and tribalistic think labels are important. If it were inter unions won't be fruitful. We carry what is unimportant and dash it a "matter of life and death" meaning.

Before we labelled ourselves Igbo Hausa Yoruba black white we were human. We are Human and our mandate is to be fruitful and multiply.

PAGAN9JA:
love is just temptation and illusion.

if you focus hars you can even fall in love with a lifeless chair.

just like many ppl fall in love with dogs , jesus, allah etc.


tribe is important.

marriage ia the union of two families . tribe is culture language religion everything.

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blackbeau1:
then there are people who will stand in their place and bless the marriage .

even bigots?

blackbeau1:
They shouldn't run away . It never solves anything . Try to get your parents to agree. Their blessings matter a lot . Besides , if they run away to get married, won't they ever come back ? If they do come back , they should know that their parents (especially the husbands parents ) will likely never forgive them.

What if both parents are late do dey still need blessings.

Love knows no tribe nor stereotype.

fvck parental blessings. I will run away and may my bride and they won't hear from us ever again.

Bunch of racists and tribalists. People like them have no space in my family.